Muzzle brakes are useful in shooting precision long range. A friend of mine casts, lubes, gas checks and moly coats bullets for suppressed subsonic hunting. They work pretty good on pigs.
Dial-a-duck, recoil reducing cannisters, shark fin front sights, beech wood stocks stained with weak tea, trigger levers to reduce pull, anything bored old men did to shotguns in the 50s, 60s, 70s.
What I hope goes away is, plastic pieces of triggers and bottom "metal" that should be steel, ugly colors of cerakote, mold lines in synthetic stocks, threaded muzzles on Fudd guns, bolt handles that look like marital aids, and trigger gimmicks instead of making a quality part to begin with.
Damaging the guns value putting white diamonds in the stock or a recoil pad on it,, Cutting slots in the barrel so it blasts anyone nearby at the range or your own self on a handgun, There is always some genius idea coming along.
I'm one of the dinosaurs that still uses moly in a few of my rifles.
My Tikka M695 in 270Win has been fed a diet of molyed 130gn TSX's exclusively since new. Round count is just short of 800 so far, with dry brushing using a nylon brush occasionally. Still shoots sub-moa. I'm kind of waiting for accuracy to degrade before doing a traditional clean, but so far so good.
I never found an advantage to moly bullets but shot a lot of them through varmint guns because I got a hell of a deal on thousands of them, they shot just like uncoated bullets. Only thing I found that cleaned that [bleep] up well was Kroil Oil though. It seemed to get all of the moly out or at least loosened up enough to clean a barrel thoroughly
Apparently stainless steel/synthetic stocked bolt action rifles aren't being made as in the past. When is the last time you saw them on the rack at the local gun store?
I had an Uncle that had a cutts compensator on a model 12 16 gauge. I haven't seen a new Browning or Winchester with a boss on it for awhile. I guess the moly fad faded when it really didn't increase barrel life, didn't stop copper build up, was messy. From what I heard the benchrest crowd thought that the bullets separated from the cores during the tumbling process of coating the bullets. That's what I heard anyway. Years ago a lube was sold to put on the bullets, I think it was called lubealoy or lubealox. That went by the wayside also. The one that I couldn't figure out was the scope with the bell on it so large that there was a groove in it, to sit over the barrel.
I had an Uncle that had a cutts compensator on a model 12 16 gauge. I haven't seen a new Browning or Winchester with a boss on it for awhile. I guess the moly fad faded when it really didn't increase barrel life, didn't stop copper build up, was messy. From what I heard the benchrest crowd thought that the bullets separated from the cores during the tumbling process of coating the bullets. That's what I heard anyway. Years ago a lube was sold to put on the bullets, I think it was called lubealoy or lubealox. That went by the wayside also. The one that I couldn't figure out was the scope with the bell on it so large that there was a groove in it, to sit over the barrel.
Nosler is still using lubalox on their Combined Tech line of bullets. Far from moly.
I can take or leave moly coated, with that said I got a reasonable deal the other day on some moly coated Noslers. I can’t tell the difference CE other than one is black.
Moly is corrosive so needs complete cleaning after shooting. I use HbN which is non corrosive and has helped reduce extreme spread and I go twice as far between needed cleaning.
I remember magazine ads for a sighting device for shotguns It was, IIRC, mounted out near the muzzle and featured two (what looked like) wire hoops, one out over each side of the barrel. The idea was, when swinging on a bird, you kept it visible through the circle on the side of the barrel the bird was coming from to ensure you were leading it.
Savage Strikers, Black Talon bullets, and the worst temporary firearm fad…those horrid, puke orange stocked chinese sks surplus rifles. 🤮🤮🤮 Told a buddy that bought one to buy a red reflector and screw it into the stock, then drive the barrel into the ground at the end of his driveway!
Having shot a bazillion molly coated bullets during my F Class days, coated bullets helped keep velocity SD's more consistent throughout a shoot - at least for me. Other than that, I wouldn't bother for any other application.
Same goes for breaks. Outside of competition shooting, just say NO.
The Butt Out tool seems to be out of favor these days. Old school Treebark camp too. As a kid I had no money - would buy cheap grey sweatpants and hit them with some back Krylon in random vertical patterns. Worked well and easy to layer.
Have used moly in some rifles ever since it came on the scene. I am able to get higher velocities, can shoot more rounds before cleaning. In our dry climate no issues with moisture some have reported.
Dave Miller said moly produces a more consistent bullet release. Thinking it would prevent cold weld between case neck and bullet.
Loved them…shot my biggest bull and mulie buck with the 140 grain xlc’s out of my Ruger #1 7STW back in 2013. Still have a few loaded ones left. They shot pretty good in the STW and my 77 .280, and when I loaded some in nickel plated .280 Rem cases, they LOOKED sooo pretty!
Is naming a rifle ok, as long as it’s not finger painted on it? I’m guilty of naming quite a few, but never put it on em anywhere. 7STW in my last post is “ Stewie”. LOL
You must've been reading my mind. This laughable gimmick gets my vote.
I only saw one in the wild. Back before Gander Mountain went TU. Pretty sure it was that - I remember my dad sorta looking at it. Got a Coyote M70 in 22-250 instead.
Saboted rifle bullets. In theory you can get much higher velocities. Remington marketed saboted .22s in 30-06 and 30-30. Somehow the idea failed in the implementation.
I still use moly. For me it's easy. I had an industrial accident, spilled maybe a teaspoon of water into my plating tumbler drum unaware I'd done so. What a mess. But, after I retumbled the bullets in a dry spare drum with some sacrifice shop rags, they were the shiniest, slickest things ever. No neck welding EVAH. Shortly after, Mic McPherson wrote of his similar discovery, more deliberate. But since then, I've tumbled bullets with a pinch of moly and a sneeze of water. It's usually pretty dry where I live, if I don't shoot or don't plan on it for a while, I'll dampen a patch with Kroil or even just good old 9 and that takes care of any rust fuzzing. Did have that once. I've got a bunch of good loads, a bunch of good rifles that shoot fine and clean easy, so I guess it works for me.
What I carry in my Delta Elite/Wilson custom shop. The county I used to live in had the distinction of having the very first fatality with LEO’s using Black Talons. My friend was our sheriff. Winchester contacted him and requested information and a copy of the post mortem x-Ray of the bad guy…telling my friend they were the first….
It was a domestic situation with a husband threatening to cut his wife’s throat with a butcher knife. He was told to drop the knife and refused to do so. He moved the blade against her throat like he was going to slice her in two and the deputy shot him in the side of the head, obviously dropping him in an instant.
I got to see the X-Ray. It showed a beautiful typically expanded Black Talon lodged on the other side of the perps thick skull. Just like in the advertisements. Sad way for our little county to make history, but thank God the Deputy was a good shot.
i remember back in the 80s seeing Quik Point scopes that looked like a test tube
I vividly remember the ads for those with Slim Pickens. Oh how I miss those days. The gun/hunting magazines were fabulous. Not an AR in sight, unless it was in Soldier Of Fortune.
I shot the Winchester Fail-safe in my 300 H&H...very accurate Never used a brake but have had a couple of rifles Magna Ported
Winchester Fail-Safes, renamed because Chucky Schumer got his panties all bunched up when they were called Winchester Black Talons....you know, Chuckie's "Cop Killer" bullets.
I’m glad the Black Talon bullet worked on that bad guy for sure, but as devil’s advocate here, unprotected, unarmored head shots are almost always game changers, if not fight stoppers, with most mid to heavier bullets. I’m glad they work for you also. For what it’s worth(maybe nothing) I did testing way back when the Black Talons came out, with 10% ballistic gelatin, wet newspaper, half frozen freezer burnt turkey, milk jugs full of water lined up, etc, etc. While most of the 10 mm/.40 s&w bullets performances were in the pretty desirable to acceptable, there were some that under performed, and I decided against using them. The Black Talons were quite disappointing, and even more so when I placed a piece of denim in front of the medium. They plugged and didn’t expand, and the simulated wound channel damage was quite minimal. The little denim disc I pulled out was neat though. I had great performance with Nosler JHP’s hot rodded to near Cor-Bon velocity, denim or no denim, with a honorable mention to PMC Starfires, Federal Hydra Shoks, and Rem Golden Sabres. This being said, I wouldn’t want to catch any of them! Not second guessing you sir, or trying to stir the old crap pot, just sharing my experience with the Black Talons. Happy Shooting! 😎
i remember back in the 80s seeing Quik Point scopes that looked like a test tube
I vividly remember the ads for those with Slim Pickens. Oh how I miss those days. The gun/hunting magazines were fabulous. Not an AR in sight, unless it was in Soldier Of Fortune.
Not an AR in sight because there was only one....Colt And they were $3k in the 80's
I’m glad the Black Talon bullet worked on that bad guy for sure, but as devil’s advocate here, unprotected, unarmored head shots are almost always game changers, if not fight stoppers, with most mid to heavier bullets. I’m glad they work for you also. For what it’s worth(maybe nothing) I did testing way back when the Black Talons came out, with 10% ballistic gelatin, wet newspaper, half frozen freezer burnt turkey, milk jugs full of water lined up, etc, etc. While most of the 10 mm/.40 s&w bullets performances were in the pretty desirable to acceptable, there were some that under performed, and I decided against using them. The Black Talons were quite disappointing, and even more so when I placed a piece of denim in front of the medium. They plugged and didn’t expand, and the simulated wound channel damage was quite minimal. The little denim disc I pulled out was neat though. I had great performance with Nosler JHP’s hot rodded to near Cor-Bon velocity, denim or no denim, with a honorable mention to PMC Starfires, Federal Hydra Shoks, and Rem Golden Sabres. This being said, I wouldn’t want to catch any of them! Not second guessing you sir, or trying to stir the old crap pot, just sharing my experience with the Black Talons. Happy Shooting! 😎
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Agree with you…a 22 LR to the skull would produce the same results. I’ve killed deer with Black Talons and Golden Sabres, both working extremely well. I remember the PMC Starfires! Gosh they made a wicked looking bullet when expanded.
My 280 JDJ shot the Combined Technology moly coated 160 PT’s into bug holes. It was the ONLY Partition that I ever got to shoot accurately in any of my guns, and, don’t think I didn’t try.
People being convinced that they could achieve any degree of precision by sanding rings by hand and ending up taking so much metal off that the rings would bottom out and no longer secure a scope.