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They're going to have to get a lot rougher than that, good for them, they set their chipsNdips and pepsi aside and did something.
Honey do we have any batteries for the remote?
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and just were does their goverment think they will get food from ?, they already calling for shotages because of Ukrain war .oh i see goverment wants us to starve to bring down the population ...unreal
Originally Posted by rem shooter
and just were does their goverment think they will get food from ?, they already calling for shotages because of Ukrain war .oh i see goverment wants us to starve to bring down the population ...unreal

And yet, we do nothing....
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by rem shooter
and just were does their goverment think they will get food from ?, they already calling for shotages because of Ukrain war .oh i see goverment wants us to starve to bring down the population ...unreal

And yet, we do nothing....
Have you done anything yet, Fireball?
TTT
Originally Posted by rem shooter
and just were does their goverment think they will get food from ?, they already calling for shotages because of Ukrain war .oh i see goverment wants us to starve to bring down the population ...unreal
That's why they're importing Africans. They're used to not having food.
You, you mean the conspiracy kooks were right years ago about there really being such a thing as Agenda 2030?

Gee, who woulda thunkit.
Originally Posted by rem shooter
and just were does their goverment think they will get food from ?, they already calling for shotages because of Ukrain war .oh i see goverment wants us to starve to bring down the population ...unreal


The Dutch have been a net food exporter for decades. The problem is not the housing shortage (which has been going on for decades and decades as well -- half of both my parents' siblings emigrated in the early 50's due to the housing shortage).

The problem is that the diligent Dutch farmers are VERY good at high intensity farm operations, usually referred to here as feedlots or chicken or pig houses. There's so many that in some areas the manure and litter from said pig and poultry houses have raised the surrounding land level by as much as 4 feet.

In other words, there's way too many CAFO's for the available land to spread the manure. Predictably, ground water contamination levels have kept increasing and increasing. This rule is political, and therefore deeply flawed, but it's not the first attempt at fixing the problem. As far back as 30 years, my cousin, who operated a dairy, was forced to connect to a municipal sewer system because septic systems are completely forbidden anywhere in the country. Never mind he was milking several hundred cows that, well, [bleep] a lot on the ground.

The whole thing is just a symptom of what happens when too many people and animals live in too small a space. Stupid is a geometric function of the population density.
They are finding new places to spread manure.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1543300949870927873
Creative problem solving.
Eventually all these green dumb fugks in govts around the world are going to get exactly what they've been asking for.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Honey do we have any batteries for the remote?





Funny how you keep calling everybody out to do something. Have you ever even been to a school board meeting or a local Republican party meeting? I doubt it.
Originally Posted by erikj
They are finding new places to spread manure.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1543300949870927873
Creative problem solving.

Standard farmer protest tactic in that part of the world.

Doesn't change the fact there's too much [bleep], and not enough space to put it.
They should build a power plant that runs on burning dried cowshit. Problem solved.
Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by erikj
They are finding new places to spread manure.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1543300949870927873
Creative problem solving.

Standard farmer protest tactic in that part of the world.

Doesn't change the fact there's too much [bleep], and not enough space to put it.
You are in a better position to understand the policies being protested. Your opinion is the emission restrictions are justified?
Like I said, it's politics, and some people's oxen are going to be gored.

This is not a new thing, this has been going on, in one form or another, for over 40 years. The cousin I mentioned before has since sold his place and moved to Denmark: just too many people and not enough dirt in The Netherlands. We have the same type of problems here in the DelMarva area and chicken houses, for example. CAFO's are what they are, love them or hate them, but they produce large quantities of concentrated manure that has to go somewhere. Historically, many of these regions have simply been spreading it, over applying it at a gross multiple, and attempting to use it, the best they can, by growing Nitrogen intensive crops like corn.

In our state, we have to have land application permits to apply CAFO manure (including from my fish farm) that limits the amount of N and P we can apply to ag land. As with all regulation, a PIA, but a couple of bad actors ruin it for everybody.

The "new" regulation is really an attempt at holistic (multi source) N management of what little environment they have left, and as I mentioned, someone's oxen are being gored. It doesn't just use land application permits, but also the number of animals on pasture. Some, like my cousin I mentioned, saw this coming, sold their milk quotas and headed out of Dodge. Others invested heavily in those milk quotas, and now even though they bought the quotas enabling them to sell the milk, they don't have the N allotment to produce that milk. Their enormous investment in milk quotas is threatening to become worthless. Guys, including another one of my cousins with a dairy, are facing losing their family farm and life's work at the stroke of a pen.
Thanks Dutch. There's always more to the story.
Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by erikj
They are finding new places to spread manure.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1543300949870927873
Creative problem solving.

Standard farmer protest tactic in that part of the world.

Doesn't change the fact there's too much [bleep], and not enough space to put it.

Sounds symptomatic of Washington DC.
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