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Posted By: ERK Griner - 08/04/22
It got 9 years in Russian prison and 146000 dollar fine. How do you like America now twat. Edk
Posted By: Sako Re: Griner - 08/04/22
I hope she serves every day of he sentence... and has to pay the money before being let out... and does not ever come back to America
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Hope that guy rots, and it is a guy, not a woman.
Posted By: EFHutton Re: Griner - 08/04/22
She’s right where she needs to be.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Griner - 08/04/22
It's a f-cking man.
Posted By: Swifty52 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by EFHutton
She’s right where she needs to be.

Yep, too bad it wasn’t 20 years, better if they would just keep her for life.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Griner - 08/04/22
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Posted By: 1minute Re: Griner - 08/04/22
or maybe a triple x case.

Either has extremely poor handlers or of low intellect. Intentional or not, it one does the crime, they should do the time.
Posted By: Swifty52 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Biden said he would make sure it gets all of its absentee ballots for every Election hand delivered by the ambassador.
Posted By: 79S Re: Griner - 08/04/22
In 2020, Griner, along with teammate Brianna Turner, called for the WNBA to stop playing the United States national anthem before the games. She made her remarks after Mercury players refused to take the floor during a pre-season game in Bradenton, Florida. Griner said she was protesting the killing of Breonna Taylor as part of the wider George Floyd protests.[81] She said later during a media teleconference, "I honestly feel we should not play the national anthem during our season. I think we should take that much of a stand."[82] She said she does not believe that the national anthem should be played at sporting events.[83]
Posted By: cv540 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
In a statement immediately after the sentencing, Biden said: 'Russia is wrongfully detaining Brittney. It’s unacceptable, and I call on Russia to release her immediately so she can be with her wife, loved ones, friends, and teammates.'


Guess my question would be what is "wrongful" about the detention of someone who plead guilty?
Posted By: JamesJr Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by Sako
I hope she serves every day of he sentence... and has to pay the money before being let out... and does not ever come back to America



THIS
Posted By: hanco Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by stxhunter
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That is a man
Posted By: Teal Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by cv540
In a statement immediately after the sentencing, Biden said: 'Russia is wrongfully detaining Brittney. It’s unacceptable, and I call on Russia to release her immediately so she can be with her wife, loved ones, friends, and teammates.'


Guess my question would be what is "wrongful" about the detention of someone who plead guilty?

US has dumped 100b in a proxy war against Russia - what did he think was going to happen to her? And it's hard for anyone to say boo - considering all the people we have detained in this country for similar reasons. Not saying right/wrong - just saying that there's no moral high ground to call for her release.
Posted By: greydog Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Her gender doesn't matter. Her stance on the national anthem doesn't matter. What does matter is that she, just like every other person who has found themselves in a similar situation, knew she was breaking the law and was stupid enough to think the country she was visiting wouldn't care. This is an important concept but apparently difficult for some to grasp. When a country has strict laws concerning the importation and distribution of drugs, don't bring drugs into that country. If a country offers prison time for public intoxication, you probably should curb your urge to drink. Do stupid things, win stupid prizes.
Americans and Canadians in the middle east often have trouble figuring this stuff out. My Dad once probably saved a woman's life, in northern Iraq, just by squeezing her arm and telling her to just keep her effing mouth shut or the tribesmen would probably drag her off the bus; they being unenlightened regarding feminine rights and privileges as espoused by this stupid cow.
In general, if you don't like the way a given country does things, don't go there. If you do go there, don't assume you are special. Griner did that and should get to learn a lesson. GD
Posted By: Ben_Lurkin Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Hope that guy rots, and it is a guy, not a woman.

I haven't paid much attention to this because I have zero interest in WNBA. Most HS boys teams would beat them in a game. I heard brittney earlier apologizing to the Russkies on the radio. Whatever it is could sing bass in any choir!
Posted By: IA_fog Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Screw that anti America anti national anthem bitch
Break the law out the piper
And screw Lebrun the douche too
Posted By: bruinruin Re: Griner - 08/04/22
9 years behind bars - its career as a player will have expired before it gets out.
Posted By: hasbeen1945 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by greydog
Her gender doesn't matter. Her stance on the national anthem doesn't matter. What does matter is that she, just like every other person who has found themselves in a similar situation, knew she was breaking the law and was stupid enough to think the country she was visiting wouldn't care. This is an important concept but apparently difficult for some to grasp. When a country has strict laws concerning the importation and distribution of drugs, don't bring drugs into that country. If a country offers prison time for public intoxication, you probably should curb your urge to drink. Do stupid things, win stupid prizes.
Americans and Canadians in the middle east often have trouble figuring this stuff out. My Dad once probably saved a woman's life, in northern Iraq, just by squeezing her arm and telling her to just keep her effing mouth shut or the tribesmen would probably drag her off the bus; they being unenlightened regarding feminine rights and privileges as espoused by this stupid cow.
In general, if you don't like the way a given country does things, don't go there. If you do go there, don't assume you are special. Griner did that and should get to learn a lesson. GD

A little common sense goes alone ways. Hasbeen
Posted By: PaulBarnard Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by greydog
Her gender doesn't matter. Her stance on the national anthem doesn't matter. What does matter is that she, just like every other person who has found themselves in a similar situation, knew she was breaking the law and was stupid enough to think the country she was visiting wouldn't care. This is an important concept but apparently difficult for some to grasp. When a country has strict laws concerning the importation and distribution of drugs, don't bring drugs into that country. If a country offers prison time for public intoxication, you probably should curb your urge to drink. Do stupid things, win stupid prizes.
Americans and Canadians in the middle east often have trouble figuring this stuff out. My Dad once probably saved a woman's life, in northern Iraq, just by squeezing her arm and telling her to just keep her effing mouth shut or the tribesmen would probably drag her off the bus; they being unenlightened regarding feminine rights and privileges as espoused by this stupid cow.
In general, if you don't like the way a given country does things, don't go there. If you do go there, don't assume you are special. Griner did that and should get to learn a lesson. GD

This was a very good post.
Posted By: Marley7x57 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Sorry to disagree but I believe her stance on the national anthem does matter. Especially when it is that country, whose national anthem you hate, that can get you out of the fix you got yourself into.
Posted By: joken2 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
She's FAR from the first to get caught and convicted for running afoul of the laws while outside of the U.S. and sentenced to do hard time in that country's prison. She's just someone that believes because of her celebrity status she is special therefore expects special consideration above and beyond that of common offenders.
Posted By: tikkanut Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Butt ugly what ever it is......

https://www.ksl.com/article/50452111/russian-judge-sentences-wnbas-griner-to-9-years-in-prison
Posted By: slumlord Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by stxhunter
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She ain’t got shît for tits

Not sexy at all
Posted By: Dixie_Rebel Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Too bad, let him-her stay there! One less ungrateful druggie in America the better!
Posted By: Tesoro Re: Griner - 08/04/22
I hope it takes 10 yrs to negotiate an exchange.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Homo Negro at the Russian gate,
Packin' hash vape for a midnight date,
She wants a Natasha for her latest sin,
Now she's doin' 9 years in the Russian Pen.
Posted By: jimone Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Send the Hildebeast for it's cellmate.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by stxhunter
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That’s a dude! If that confused mess of a Russian prisoner is in fact a man but pretending to be a woman then whatever time it spends in a Russian prison should be a nightmare. I’m sure that the one thing Russian prisoners and Russian guards can come together on is making life a living hell for an American citizen that represents everything that the Russians have heard through their propaganda machine about the destruction of morality and the excesses of American culture.

I’m sure that before the team went to Russia they had a team meeting where the coach lays out the rules and expectations, what to do and what to bring versus what not to do and what not to bring. I’d have a hard time believing that it as well as her team wasn’t warned about the potential repercussions from breaking Russian law.
Posted By: WiFowler Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by joken2
She's FAR from the first to get caught and convicted for running afoul of the laws while outside of the U.S. and sentenced to do hard time in that country's prison. She's just someone that believes because of her celebrity status she is special therefore expects special consideration above and beyond that of common offenders.


E X A C T L Y !!!


Waiting for his-higness, LeBron, to add his two-cents worth. Maybe that old geezer, Al Sharpton, too.

She din do nuffin . . . . . . .
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by Sako
I hope she serves every day of he sentence... and has to pay the money before being let out... and does not ever come back to America

She won't the Russians gave her a particularly harsh sentence in order to gain even more leverage to trade for that arms merchant we have in jail. She'll be home before the leaves fall. She's a triple whammy (black, female, dyke) protected class. The good news is that we'll also get that former Marine that's also being held
Posted By: efw Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by greydog
Her gender doesn't matter. Her stance on the national anthem doesn't matter. What does matter is that she, just like every other person who has found themselves in a similar situation, knew she was breaking the law and was stupid enough to think the country she was visiting wouldn't care. This is an important concept but apparently difficult for some to grasp. When a country has strict laws concerning the importation and distribution of drugs, don't bring drugs into that country. If a country offers prison time for public intoxication, you probably should curb your urge to drink. Do stupid things, win stupid prizes.
Americans and Canadians in the middle east often have trouble figuring this stuff out. My Dad once probably saved a woman's life, in northern Iraq, just by squeezing her arm and telling her to just keep her effing mouth shut or the tribesmen would probably drag her off the bus; they being unenlightened regarding feminine rights and privileges as espoused by this stupid cow.
In general, if you don't like the way a given country does things, don't go there. If you do go there, don't assume you are special. Griner did that and should get to learn a lesson. GD

Winner winner

Amazing to me how pissed the left is about nothing more than consequences that any kindergartener could see coming.
Posted By: efw Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by WiFowler
Originally Posted by joken2
She's FAR from the first to get caught and convicted for running afoul of the laws while outside of the U.S. and sentenced to do hard time in that country's prison. She's just someone that believes because of her celebrity status she is special therefore expects special consideration above and beyond that of common offenders.


E X A C T L Y !!!


Waiting for his-higness, LeBron, to add his two-cents worth. Maybe that old geezer, Al Sharpton, too.

She din do nuffin . . . . . . .

…and Biden agrees with her assessment of herself.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by hanco
Originally Posted by stxhunter
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That is a man
Might be one of those transformer more than meets the eye hermaphrodite thingamabobs???
Posted By: Teal Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Sako
I hope she serves every day of he sentence... and has to pay the money before being let out... and does not ever come back to America

She won't the Russians gave her a particularly harsh sentence in order to gain even more leverage to trade for that arms merchant we have in jail. She'll be home before the leaves fall. She's a triple whammy (black, female, dyke) protected class. The good news is that we'll also get that former Marine that's also being held

We offered them the arms dealer in trade and they essentially turned it down - IIRC. There's no leverage, we were already going to give him up.
Posted By: BuckHaggard Re: Griner - 08/04/22
I don't think anybody deserves to spend nine years in a Russian prison because they got caught with weed.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Griner - 08/04/22
WNBA Official: "What's that 14" appendage hanging between your legs?"

Griner: "Dat is my man is da boat, bitch."

WNBA official: "It appears to be swimming to shore."

Griner: "What you mean?!! Doan make me call Reverand Al. He got a head like an Eggplant,...but he'll fug you up!! Say,....you got dinner plans tonight? I'll buy you a steak and make you howl at da moon."
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Man body with slight female facial features and no beard growth with a va jay jay and maybe a small cock above it.
????

Probably would dna/ chromosome test out as a man.

Most def a mixed race genetic freak and a shining example of LBJ,s great society in many aspects.


It will be home soon enough and will do all the Liberal Socialist Democrat daytime talk shows.
Write a book and be a NYT bestseller.
It will be lionized by the Liberal Socialist Democrats.





And it's all President Trump's fault of course that it got in trouble in Russia....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
The Spartans woulda chucked it off the cliff the day it was born..
Posted By: Gringo Loco Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by Marley7x57
Sorry to disagree but I believe her stance on the national anthem does matter. Especially when it is that country, whose national anthem you hate, that can get you out of the fix you got yourself into.

It might matter to patriots, but not those pulling the strings right now. The Biden regime will pull out all the stops to get their wokeness mascot free.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Griner - 08/04/22
The Russians probably gave her a near max sentence as leverage to get the arms dealer back.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Sako
I hope she serves every day of he sentence... and has to pay the money before being let out... and does not ever come back to America
She won't the Russians gave her a particularly harsh sentence in order to gain even more leverage to trade for that arms merchant we have in jail. She'll be home before the leaves fall. She's a triple whammy (black, female, dyke) protected class. The good news is that we'll also get that former Marine that's also being held

Is there such a thing as a dyke that’s not female?

wink 👍
Posted By: 12344mag Re: Griner - 08/04/22
She does kinda look like a Possum.....
Posted By: Cretch Re: Griner - 08/04/22
I think the sentence is excessive, but that being said, I hope she/he has to serve the full amount. It will give time to re-assess how she/he really feels about the USA and what the flag & anthem stands for. Probably won't chance a thing in Griner's screwed up head.
Posted By: Middlefork_Miner Re: Griner - 08/04/22
When you travel to a foreign country, you’re subject to their laws… no ifs ands or buts…an old friend of mine got busted with a joint in Japan while he was active duty with the Marines… two years later he was released from Japanese prison and returned to the Marine Corps to serve out the bad time he spent in prison…
Posted By: centershot Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Heck of a note when you have to go to Russia to learn some manners.
Posted By: 45_100 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by 12344mag
She does kinda look like a Possum.....

I expected this thread to be about opossums.
Posted By: tikkanut Re: Griner - 08/04/22
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/conservatives-join-trump-siding-russia-201506192.html
Posted By: marktheshark Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Dont know how the leftists including Slow Joe keep saying that it is wrongly detained!! It broke the law of a sovereign nation, was arrested, PLED GUILTYto the charge,and was sentenced! If they want to argue the sentence is too harsh, ok, but breaking a countries law and being arrested and going through the judicial process of that nation for it is hardly "wrongfull detainment"
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Griner - 08/04/22
"The Spartans woulda chucked it off the cliff the day it was born.."

Good one renegade.
Posted By: chlinstructor Re: Griner - 08/04/22
Originally Posted by renegade50
Man body with slight female facial features and no beard growth with a va jay jay and maybe a small cock above it.
????

Probably would dna/ chromosome test out as a man.

Most def a mixed race genetic freak and a shining example of LBJ,s great society in many aspects.


It will be home soon enough and will do all the Liberal Socialist Democrat daytime talk shows.
Write a book and be a NYT bestseller.
It will be lionized by the Liberal Socialist Democrats.





And it's all President Trump's fault of course that it got in trouble in Russia....
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Rene nails it as per usual!
Posted By: ironbender Re: Griner - 08/04/22
But, but, Qsaid…..
Posted By: joken2 Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Illegal Drugs


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For Your Consideration

Each year, 2,500 U.S. citizens are arrested abroad. One-third of the arrests are on drug-related charges. Many of those arrested assumed that as a U.S. citizen they could not be arrested. From Asia to Africa, Europe to South America, U.S. citizens are finding out the hard way that drug possession or trafficking equals jail in foreign countries.

There is very little that anyone can do to help you if you are caught with drugs. You are operating under the laws of the host country and the regulations of the local institution. Neither the U.S. government nor Arizona State University will be able to secure your release should you be caught.

It is your responsibility to know the drug laws of a foreign country before you go, because saying "I didn't know it was illegal" will not get you out of jail. Some laws may be applied more strictly to foreigners than to local citizens; therefore, don't assume that just because local people are using drugs, it's acceptable for you to use drugs.

In recent years, U.S. Americans have been arrested abroad on drug charges for possession of an ounce or less of marijuana. The risk of being put in jail for just one marijuana cigarette, or for other illegal substances, is not worth it.

If you are purchasing prescription medications in quantities larger than that considered necessary for personal use, you could be arrested on suspicion of drug trafficking.

Once you're arrested, the U.S. consular officer CANNOT get you out of jail!

You may say "it couldn't happen to me," but the fact is that it could happen to you if you find yourself saying one of the following:

"I am a U.S. citizen and no foreign government can put me in their jail."
"If I only buy or carry a small amount, it won't be a problem."

If you are caught using illegal drugs by ASU faculty/staff or other on-site personnel, you may be immediately dismissed from the Global Education program. If you are caught by local authorities buying, selling, carrying, or using drugs - from hashish to heroin, marijuana to mescaline, cocaine to quaaludes, to designer drugs like ecstasy - it could mean:

interrogation and delays before trial, including mistreatment and solitary confinement for up to one year under very primitive conditions and delays before trial including mistreatment and solitary confinement for up to one year under very primitive conditions
lengthy trials conducted in a foreign language, with delays and postponements
weeks, months, or life in prison (some places include hard labor, heavy fines, and/or lashings), if found guilty
the death penalty in a growing number of countries

Although drug laws vary from country to country, it is important to realize before you make the mistake of getting involved with drugs that foreign countries do not react lightly to drug offenders. In some countries, anyone who is caught with even a very small quantity for personal use may be tried and receive the same sentence as the large-scale trafficker.

A few words to the wise...

A number of countries have enacted more stringent drug laws that impose mandatory jail sentences for individuals convicted of possessing even small amounts of marijuana or cocaine for personal use.
Once you leave the United States, you are not protected by U.S. laws and constitutional rights.
Bail is not granted in many countries when drugs are involved.
The burden of proof in many countries is on the accused to prove his/her innocence.
In some countries, evidence obtained illegally by local authorities may be admissible in court.
Few countries offer drug offenders jury trials or even require the prisoner's presence at his/her trial.
Many countries have mandatory prison sentences of seven years to life without the possibility of parole for drug violations.
If someone offers you a free trip and some quick and easy money for just bringing back a suitcase...SAY NO!
Don't carry a package for anyone, no matter how small it might seem.
The police and customs officials have a right to search your luggage for drugs. If they find drugs in your suitcase, YOU will suffer the consequences.
You could go to jail for years with no possibility of parole, early release, or transfer back to the United States.
Don't make a jail sentence part of your ASU Global Education experience.

About Medical Marijuana

According to U.S. Federal law you cannot fly on a commercial airliner with marijuana or marijuana-containing products, even if you have a doctor's written prescription for medical marijuana or an Arizona Medical Marijuana Program ID Card. Possession of marijuana in a U.S airport, in U.S. airspace or on an airplane carries a punishment of up to one year in jail and a minimum fine of $1,000 for a first conviction. For each subsequent conviction, the sentences and penalties increase.

In addition, many countries consider marijuana to be illegal. Students with a U.S. prescription for marijuana can be arrested, prosecuted, and/or deported, if in possession of an illegal substance abroad. Never travel internationally with any amount of medical marijuana unless you want to take the risk of being detained, arrested and charged, deported, missing your flight, and having your medicine confiscated.


Americans detained abroad as families plead for Biden to help


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July 28, 2022

At least 67 U.S. citizens are being detained overseas unjustly, advocates say.


In September 2016, Kai Li stepped off a plane from the United States to his native China to visit relatives and attend a memorial for his late mother. He never returned.

The Chinese government had imprisoned the 59-year-old Li, an act the United Nations has condemned, and which his family says is based on bogus charges of espionage. A U.S. citizen who lived in Long Island, New York, since 1989, Li is only allowed to call his wife and son once a month for conversations that last just minutes.

His six-year absence has been "devastating," said Harrison Li, his son. Not only did it throw his family into debt, but it also forced them to shutter two gas stations Li owned and operated as a way to make his family prosper in his adopted country, he said.

"Our government has failed us by allowing this to continue for so long," he said. "They need to find the will and motivation to get him released."
MORE: US proposes releasing Russian arms dealer to free Griner and Whelan: Sources

Li joins the chorus of dozens of families who say the Biden administration is failing to adequately confront a crisis that experts say is only getting worse. According to the James W. Foley Legacy Foundation, a Washington organization that advocates for hostages and journalist safety, at least 67 U.S. citizens are currently being held overseas; 90% of those are wrongly detained by foreign governments hostile to the U.S.
PHOTO: An undated photo shows Kai Li, a U.S. citizen from New York, who has been detained by China since 2016.
An undated photo shows Kai Li, a U.S. citizen from New York, who has been detained by China since 2016.
Courtesy Li family

Cynthia Loertscher, director of research, hostage advocacy and legislative affairs for the Foley foundation, says there is a greater interest among countries like Venezuela, Russia and China to use U.S. citizens as "geopolitical pawns" whose imprisonments can be leveraged to demand change in U.S. policy or to force concessions like a prisoner exchange.

"They become human collateral to try to get the United States to budge on its policies on a very large scale which is why these cases are so difficult to solve," Loertscher said. The problem, she said, "is absolutely" worsening as an increasing number of countries are testing the waters for potential gain.

Last week, President Joe Biden issued an executive order that allows federal agencies to impose financial sanctions and other consequences on parties involved in hostage-taking or wrongful detentions. It also creates a new State Department indicator to alert Americans where there’s a risk of being wrongfully detained by a foreign government.

Loertscher said the new tools show the administration is taking the issue seriously, but it is too soon to tell of its lasting effect considering the order did not name specific countries or cases like Li's.

For Neda Sharghi, whose brother Emad has been wrongfully detained in Iran since 2018, she says nothing short of meeting with Biden directly will be satisfactory. Emad Sharghi, an American-Iranian dual citizen based in Washington, is one of at least four Americans wrongfully detained in Iran currently. Months after his capture more than four years ago, he was released, but not allowed to leave the country.

Two months before Biden took office, Emad Sharghi was rearrested and sentenced to 10 years in prison for charges that remain unclear to his family.

Neda Sharghi said her family has written to Biden but have not received a response. She said the issue "transcends politics" and should be one that both political parties could work on together.

Holding people captive fraudulently "cuts against every principle we as Americans hold onto," Sharghi said. "It’s baffling to me why it’s so difficult to get them released and why it isn’t a more focused priority for our administration," she said.

A senior State Department official would not discuss specific cases with ABC News, but said that the new executive order is an example of the administration being "willing to make tough but important decisions" on the issue.

"Anyone who has worked on these issues for any period of time knows that strategies need to be case specific. They have to be informed by the intelligence and information about a particular case. They need to take into account country-specific facts, regional facts and anything we can bring to bear to get what we all ultimately want, which is an American home with his or her loved ones," the official said.

Biden recently met with the families of Austin Tice, detained in Syria since 2012, and Trevor Reed, who was recently released from Russia in a prisoner exchange. Families say the media attention thrust on both cases, along with that of basketball star Brittney Griner, detained in Russia on drug charges, are bringing public awareness to an issue that for so many years has been lost in the news cycle.
PHOTO: Brittney Griner holds images standing in a cage at a court room prior to a hearing, in Khimki just outside Moscow, July 26, 2022.
Brittney Griner holds images standing in a cage at a court room prior to a hearing, in Khimki just outside Moscow, July 26, 2022.
Alexander Zemlianichenko/AP, POOL

For Alexandra Forseth, the "biggest obstacles" for families like her own "is not the government holding our own people -- it’s our own government."
MORE: Brittney Griner testifies in Russian court as US works to secure her release

Her father, Alirio Zambrano, and uncle, Jose Luis Zambrano, are members of the so-called "Citgo 6," a group of Houston-based Citgo oil executives imprisoned in Venezuela since 2017 on corruption charges. Last year, the men were released under house arrest but in November were suddenly sent back to prison where conditions are so poor their families say they must purchase their clothes and food and ferry them in through intermediaries.

The arrests came around the same time the U.S. extradited a Colombian financier with close ties to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. In February, a Venezuelan court upheld the executives' prison sentences.

In March, the Biden administration announced the release of one member of the Citgo 6, Gustavo Cardenas, along with another American held in the country, Jorge Fernandez.

“We did get a couple of Americans out and that was a great thing,” White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan told reporters this month regarding the release of the men. “But it was bittersweet because there's a lot of Americans still there, and we've got to get them home.”
MORE: 3 more Americans detained in Venezuela since early this year, State Department confirms

Forseth said her family has been working closely with Roger Carstens, the special presidential envoy for hostage affairs (SPEHA), a special State Department position created during the Obama years. While Carstens has "unanimous support" by the families, she said he and others working on their behalf are ultimately hindered by bureaucracy.

The characterization is supported by Loertscher who said these efforts ultimately need the full support of the administration to be fully effective.

"There are some people absolutely working their tails off for us. They are going way above what to do, but there are some people who are full-on obstacles to making creative solutions because don’t want to bring up these men as priorities to the president," Forseth said.

"The short answer is, I’m mad at the people who won’t allow the negotiating process to be dynamic and swift," she said.
MORE: Biden 'may have saved Trevor's life': Former Marine's family speaks out

Families banded by Bring Our Family Home, an organization tasked to raise the profile of the missing, unveiled a block-long mural in Washington last week that features the portraits of 18 loved ones being detained by foreign governments, including Griner and the Citgo 6.

"We would love it if President Biden came to look at it and hopefully inspire him to reach out and want to meet with us," said Sharghi.

The project is also a catalyst for hope, something Li said, for him, is in short commodity over the years.

"There’s always hope and hope always gets dashed," he said. "My father is still suffering behind bars."


Russia Sentences U.S. Citizen To 14 Years In Prison For Marijuana He Says Was Prescribed


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June 17, 2022


Mark Fogel was detained in August 2021 upon his arrival with his wife in Moscow from New York.

A former employee of the U.S. Embassy in Moscow has been handed a 14-year prison term in Russia for illegal drug trafficking after he was caught entering the country with medical marijuana he says was prescribed to him after back surgery.

A court in the town of Khimki near Moscow said on June 17 that U.S. citizen Marc Fogel, who works as a teacher at the Anglo-American School in the Russian capital, was sentenced the day before.

According to the court statement, Fogel, who was detained in August last year upon his arrival with his wife in Moscow from New York, pleaded guilty.

Fogel says he had medical papers explicitly showing the marijuana was prescribed by doctors and that it was solely for medical use.

Fogel was quoted at the time as saying that he had not known that medical marijuana was illegal in Russia. His lawyers said then that Russian authorities had found 17 grams of marijuana in his possession.

U.S. officials have yet to comment on Fogel's sentencing.

Fogel is one of several Americans incarcerated in Russia in recent years on charges that their families, supporters, and in some cases the U.S. government, have said appear trumped up.

Former U.S. Marine Paul Whelan was sentenced by a court in Moscow to 16 years in prison in May 2020 on espionage charges condemned by the United States as a "mockery of justice."

Another former U.S. Marine, Trevor Reed, was sentenced to nine years in prison in July 2020 after being arrested and charged with assaulting two Russian police officers in 2019, which he denied. He was released in a prisoner swap in April.

Another American whose detention by Russian authorities has drawn criticism is basketball star Brittney Griner. She was arrested in February at a Moscow airport after the authorities said a scan of her luggage revealed vape cartridges containing hash oil.

Griner, who played for a Russian professional basketball team, could face up to 10 years in prison if convicted on illegal drug charges. She has pleaded not guilty and the United States has designated her as "wrongfully detained."
Posted By: ConradCA Re: Griner - 08/05/22
She is leading about the benefits of living in the USA.
Posted By: Slope77 Re: Griner - 08/05/22
9 years for some lame, dumba** sh*t is a pretty heavy price to pay.

Wow.
Posted By: stevelyn Re: Griner - 08/05/22
When are dumbass Americans going to figure out their peculiar type of American dumbassery really isn't welcome in other countries? Hell, Unca Sam told us that during our in-country orientation briefings before we were sent to our new units to drink and whore around off-post. It's as if the single-mom nation didn't teach their dumbass millennial off-spring a damn thing.
Posted By: troublesome82 Re: Griner - 08/05/22
We oft times reap what we sow....
Posted By: gonehuntin Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by BuckHaggard
I don't think anybody deserves to spend nine years in a Russian prison because they got caught with weed.

Try it in Japan or Indonesia and see what they do to you. The Russians delivered on their law because they didn't want any more American 'groids thinking they could go to Russia and have a good time smoking weed and mixing up a Russian version of grape drank. Notice that the Africoon and muslim invaders targeted Ye Olde Europe, NOT Russia.
Posted By: Huncho Re: Griner - 08/05/22
She the transgender thing is illegal in Russia, He ma spent more time in Prison.
I hope they throw the keys to his cell out.
Posted By: Azmarlin39a Re: Griner - 08/05/22
I hope the groid freak is forced to stand before the Russian flag and recite their anthem every day. Try taking a knee to that!
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Griner - 08/05/22
The only thing more retarded than 9 years for some vape cartridges is bringing said vape cartridges into Russia.

Now she’s just a political pawn.
Ol’ Lebron oughtta open his wallet and buy her freedom.
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Griner - 08/05/22
If she had taken her little vape pens to Mexico, LeBron could buy her way out. She would be home by now.
Russia works differently.
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Russia is as corrupt as they come. Trouble now is it’s an international story.

Still, Lebron probably has enough cash to get her home.
Posted By: Whelenman Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Why would someone want to rescue that ( whatever it is) let him her stay over there!!!!
Posted By: killerv Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Funny how the left is now ok with putting a world arms dealer back in business.
Posted By: hatari Re: Griner - 08/05/22
"Brittney Griner isn’t a transgender, and she wasn’t born a man; instead, the WNBA star is a female who declared herself a lesbian in 2013. Since then, she has been in two same-sex relationships as a male partner."


WTF does that mean?

So she's a dyke? Check.

She bumps clams with other dykes? Check.

These days, somebody has to declare which one is the butch? Oh, that's passé these days I suppose. "Male partner". Don't you need to be a male to be a "male partner"?

What that really means is she's the Alpha. I mean, if she was the "male" partner, she would have some of that toxic masculinity seeping out and polluting everything. Sheesh! Good thing my dad/granddad are gone. All this would certainly kill them.
Posted By: OldmanoftheSea Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by EFHutton
She’s right where she needs to be.
not yet... but once it gets to the gulag it will be.
Posted By: hatari Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Sako
I hope she serves every day of he sentence... and has to pay the money before being let out... and does not ever come back to America

She won't the Russians gave her a particularly harsh sentence in order to gain even more leverage to trade for that arms merchant we have in jail. She'll be home before the leaves fall. She's a triple whammy (black, female, dyke) protected class. The good news is that we'll also get that former Marine that's also being held


Don't be surprised if the Ruskies don't play ball to free her anytime soon. They will make Biden sweat and throw a temper tantrum to get her back. All the while, Putin and Co. will enjoy watching Biden squirm as the Progressives clamour for her release and demand that Joe "do something".

I don't see the Russians all that motivated to get an arms dealer back (unless its Putin's brother in law or the like). They make the arms. They have plenty more people to sell them off to insurgents around the world.

As long as they have Ms. Chocolate Thunder in custody, they have the upper hand. I don't expect her to be repatriated until she serves many months. Maybe even an Iran Hostage thing where they keep her and release her to the new incoming President in 2024-5as a big FU-JB.
Posted By: Raeford Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by MadMooner
Russia is as corrupt as they come. Trouble now is it’s an international story.

Still, Lebron probably has enough cash to get her home.

Said it before and I'll say it again:

LeBoon should go retrieve IT, and since he's going anyhow go ahead and resupply IT with cannabis.
Win/Win
Posted By: Teal Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by killerv
Funny how the left is now ok with putting a world arms dealer back in business.

He likely works for them anyway
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Some years ago, there was a group of missionaries loosely connected to a church we used to attend. They worked somewhere in South America. 4 or 5 of them came back to the states for a while, then returned to their mission. One of the needs in that area was nutrition so they bought a huge amount of vitamins to distribute to the people. The pill bottles were too bulky for their suitcases so they repackaged them in plastic bags. They were in the air on their return trip before it occurred to one of them that they had suitcases full of loose, unidentified pills with them and they had to go through customs in a country with severe drug laws. I'd call them somewhere between naive and totally stupid to not think of that before. As it turned out, not a single one of their suitcases was opened by customs. They probably would have been exonerated once the pills were tested but they'd have gone through hell before that happened.
Posted By: gonehuntin Re: Griner - 08/05/22
Originally Posted by hatari
Maybe even an Iran Hostage thing where they keep her and release her to the new incoming President in 2024-5as a big FU-JB.

Now that would be rich - "In a declared humanitarian gesture, Russia released Britt Griner early today, just hours before Donald Trump was to be sworn in as President. Outgoing President Joe Biden could not be reached for comment..."
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