Doing some garage cleaning and came across an unopened case of MREs from a past hurricane. Upon opening the case, I have looked in vain for any expiration date. The only date I can find is a manufacturing or packing date of 2011. Other markings appear to be lot numbers. The case has been stored inside an ice chest in my unheated/uncooled garage for about 10 years, I guess. I opened one of the meals and all internal packaging looks factory fresh. I then opened an entree of enchiladas and it did not smell bad and no fuzzy stuff growing on it. It didn't taste particularly bad, but obviously would have been much better if warmed up and doused with hot sauce. That was 40 minutes ago and no ill effects, so far. So, anyone know what the safe usable life of these are?

There is no set expiration date for MREs. It depends entirely on storage conditions. Ones that have been solidly frozen have been fine after 20 years. Yours were not stored in ideal conditions, but the mains may still be safe to eat - even if they have lost a lot of what wasn't much flavor to begin with. I would NOT trust packets of cheese, however.

An MRE will make a turd. But that's about it.

I suspect the heating unit won't work in old, old ones, but the food inside is probably suitable to make a turd.

If I was hungry enough to really want to eat one, date probably
wouldn't matter.

Canned food isn't a worry either.
I'm not eating anything way old, but I'm not hungry.
The stores have food and I have cash. But hungry, I'm eating anything
in a sealed can that isn't compromised.

MREs are made at the Sopakco Plant here in SC.

I've toured the plant, it's an incredible operation.

There is a date scale, a Best By scale, packed with cases. I'd go pop one open and look but here's the bottom line if I remember correctly.

It's all based upon constant storage temperatures.

20° and below ... indefinitely (according to military)




https://www.mreinfo.com/mres/mre-shelf-life/

When I was in Boy Scouts back in the 60s on military bases, We've consumed a lot of surplus WW2 and Korea War MREs out camping...

The scoutmaster use to confiscate the cigarettes that came in them...

but I never smoked anyway, ever... so no big deal to me.

Fugg it...
Eat em if they look and smell good.
Your gut and sphincter will eventually let ya know one way or the other.


Sure as fuuuuk would not eat a menu # 22 shrimp jambalaya.
Starving dog in a bombed out mig 21 bunker at the mosul airfield turn her nose to that one, but would eat the fugg outta the other 23 menu,s.

Even dogs knew menu # 22 sucked azz back then.

The brothers liked it though....
Go figure.....


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The Cheese Omelet MREs are super tasty for 50 years...

Trust me!

Well, no, Seafire. You did not eat MREs from WWII or Korea. They did not exist then. MRE's came about in the mid-1980s. You ate rations of one kind or another but they were not MREs.

Using MRE as a generic name for any and all rations is like calling all airplanes Piper Cubs.

Fuuuk....
When I went to OSUT at Harmony Church in 83 for about the 1st 7 weeks we was eating C Rats with 68 date on em.
Then we got new fangled MRE,s ...
Woooo eeeeeee.

Drills, all exicited about em too...

That schit all wore off quick.
The fuuuking loaf meats and loaf meat combo,s in some of em...
Uh huh.....
LRRP,s/ dehydrated field rations in Germany on Border Gaurd 86 to 88 and in Korea in 89 90 were actually not that bad if ya let em reconstitute with water the right amount of time.
You eat them things dry or partially rehydrated they will dehydrate you quick and most def plug up your ass for a day or 3...

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Here is the truth, you just need to inspect them, any off-gassing?

Because I actually use them often, I cycle them out often. I wouldn’t keep one beyond 10 years.

The ones I keep in my vehicle I eat or trash within 2 years

I don’t even buy the full MRE’s (tan plastic) anymore because there is much wasted items, I buy the BDU side pocket “lunch” (clear package) menus. I eat these at least twice per week. They are maybe $4.50 each at the base commissary.

Call me nuts...
But I used to like the dehydrated pork and beef patties.
Some times just stick one or 2 in my cargo pocket out training.
Eat em , chew em good , gulp some water from a canteen.
Hold it in my mouth for about 20 secs.
Swallow.
Repeat...

Keep on rolling doing whatever.
Sometimes ya just gotta eat when ya can when your on the move or a 50 50 security halt.

The coolest thing about those would be how they looked when you puked them out through your regulator while scuba diving too. You’d be surrounded by schools of fish.

So what you are saying, the MRE’s I bought before Y2K, and have stored in my attic here in Houston probably aren’t any good. Darn it.

I don’t know man, I wouldn’t touch them.

When I was in the Navy we found a cache of C and K rations from WWII.Smoked the Lucky Strikes in the Green and White 5 packs ,eat the chocolate and even tried the beef stew.

Urban legend Johnny...
Come on man....

Seen plenty of 82nd guys eating em when we would do 96 hr edre,s from Campbell to Bragg in the early 90,s.
Plenty of Buds I knew here at Campbell in the LRSD unit also.
And all the Blackhawk pilots and crews also.

I never did see a problem with them at altitude or decent.

Ok johnny.

Now that ya added that.
I can beleive it about scuba diving.

Chum....
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Cleaning out and demo-ing the old house on the old place last week found 1/2 case of C-rats! LOL! Some hadn’t exploded! 🤣🤣🤣

I actually trusted those old pork patties because they were freeze dried

I triple dog dare you to eat the ham & eggs

That's funny johnny ..

Dont know how many times 5th group over my 3 tours at campbell would go thru our sqd, platoon, company live fire maneuver ranges to maintain their proficiency in basic battle drills and combined arms ops with arty and helo attack aviation.

Hmmmm......

I wouldn’t even eat the Ham & Eggs in 1975. Why now? My absolute fav was the B-2 unit of Beanie weenies.

Sphagetti and rocks in the C rats were pretty good.
Beans and Frank's kinda.


Just wasnt enough calories or bulk of chow in a c rat to satisfy hunger for more than 2 or 3 hours.

I still got my 1st P38 from a C rat on my truck key ring.
One of my 2 original dog tags also.
Strange attachment to em I geuss.

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You ate those dehydrated Mother F'ers? I would skip the meal if that is what I got. Now the ham slice was delicious with tobasco. I have eaten them at -20 and they weren't even froze. I would have no concerns eating a 20 year old one unless it looked funny or smelled worse than they normally do.

Oh, its just a little interservice banter. Elite Forces -vs- Army fodder

Dang, I tried

Uh huh...
Tell us exactly about your old job Johnny you have always been ambiguous about it.

Surely you ain't gonna give away any national security stuff by just tossing us a bone for a clue.

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Oh hell, not this again. Posted it many times over the years.

Were you in 82nd ?

Lol!!!
Ate plenty of cold mre,s too.
Worst probably up around Narvick in Norway training with them knuckle bunnies for 30 days in early winter 87.

Tried their delicacy of fermented aged shark meat.
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Like eating a peice of rubber ammonia is the best way to describe it.

Ate alot of cold Mre,s that 1st tour in Korea 4 months of foot patrolling on the DMZ.
That fuuuking wind outta manchuria from late Nov thru early march.
Cut right through you to the bone.
Several times I had to call a brevity call in for a truck link up and evac from my squad laying in ambush at night for 3 to 4 hrs on the reverse slope of a ridge over watching valleys on the Z.
One night I swear to god it snow about 18 inches on us in 2hrs in a ambush.
Gotta take care of your Joe's
Go down with frost bite or really bad exposure ain't good.
Pretty serious stuff.
Making that call just had to be done sometimes and either ouelette or collier would pick up the sector with their thermals or Pews systems while we were moving to a pick up on MSR 1.



Can only begin to imagine the cold the marines went thru during the chosin reservoir withdrawal.

If I remember correctly, the cases have a temperature indicator gizmo that shows that they haven't been stored at excessive temps. The higher the storage temp, the shorter the shelf life.

Mr I Toss Out Chef Boyardee If It’s One Day Passed the Date.

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Speaking of fulla shît

Nope....
101 3 times
2 ID 3 times
4th ID once
1st ID Fwd Germany once
1st CAV once
3 schitty years recruiting had a 18D and 18C in the company also.
And plenty of other places in between.
Even spent almost 8 months in Mosul.
Of course that was after open desert warfare fights and mout fughts as a light IN Hvy Armour company battle groups with 1/72nd tank in Ah Najaf, Karbala, Al Hillah, Baghdad.
Maybe you been in some of those places too??

Constant Mout Fights 2 to 5 times a week sometimes less in Mosul
2 3 times a day
Some times less
Some times more.


Where have you been johnny???

I have never really interacted with you johnny.
Just trying to yap with ya right now honestly.
Trying to figure out how to approach you.

Did the same with OGB when he came on here.
We had some motar talk in common.
I spent 13 months on a 4 .2 crew playing 11C to advoid 11m transistion and stay 11B
That motar experience paid alot of dividends later on in Iraq x 2 for me and my Platoon and company.

Not me, never been in the Military.

What years were you with 1st CAV ?

Please Kneegrow.
That schit has a expiration date on it.
And I can toss it as joe civvy.

Dont bring any of those nasty sardines or whatever those things with eyeballs you were eating that one time.
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Gawd I had to move upwind too.

Fuggers smelled worse than a buncha decomposing ragheads in a tractor trailer we found outside the hospital in Karbala for god sakes.

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Someone told me them MRE thingies are good until the First Zombie Pockalips or the Rapture, whichever comes first.

Did I get some bad info??


Guess I'll just eat taters out the garden.

June 88 to june 89
C trp 2/7th Task force.
11Chuck Mtoe slot.
All us incoming 11B E5 and E6 were giving a brief at 3 Corp HQ from the 11M commitee outta Benning

Go to 2AD and 41st IN and convert to 11M or go to 1st CAV and fill in on Motar Crews.
They were all 19 series guys
Scouts and Tankers
Filling in as 11C let me stay 11B

Spent my 1st 4 yrs at Carson and Germany as Mech IN.
Hated that schit but didnt have the choice.
Then when they started up formalizing 11M many of us seen the 11B route would send us to light units only.
Fugg being in a high payoff tgt armoured beer can 113 or Bradley

11B 24yrs...

False, not good till apocalypse

You are running ahead of my time if you were E5 or E6 in 88. I was still a young pup at Hurlburt Field and Camp Rudder then.

I’m with kaywoodie, in the fact that I liked the beans and weenies in C Rats. The MRE beans and weenies weren’t so good. The oldest C Rats I ate were, I think, 28 years old, which I was told was the usable life.

What if it comes tomorrow?

Ancient shrimp does sound deadly...

Come on man.
Lighten up .
Ain't nothing you gonna say about what you were or did gonna give away anything.
You know that.

Look here is a pic of my key ring man.
Trying to interact with you man..



The doggy bone tag is from that one best dog every has had in their life.

Cookie my bud for me.
Half Rhodesian Ridgeback/ American Staffordshire terrier

If the bag ain’t gassed, go for it

E5 p back then.
83 to 08 for me.

Ok...
More about you.
Ain't no one knows who you are on here.
WTF you gonna say that is compromising if at all??
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They are a great diet plan. Guaranteed to lose weight when that's all you have to eat. Probably lost 5-10 lbs a month. In other words, they're mostly inedible.

Who here was glad to play the MRE lottery and draw scrambled eggs?

See my 1st name is a 4 letter word.
Loved by few
Hated by many

Wouldn't have it any other way.

And I'm pretty fuuking loyal to people I trust also.
I don't trust alot of people either.
Until they prove otherwise.
Unca Sugar made me that way in many ways doing many things for him.

If there is a date of “expiration,” they will be given to the Marines. Nothing like crapping a cinder block. For those of you that haven’t had the joy of it, go for it!

Im drinkin beer

I need to make something to eat.
Thread got my hongry just a confederate soldier in the Petersburg trenches...
Well not that bad actually....
Them cats were hard men back then.

My tags are in my retirement shadow box for when I die. I pulled it out of the closet just for you renegade50

I got wone frhws ground chukc an d 8 pack busch

gonnna do it

Ain't got no I love me stuff on display except a plaque my 39 armed little goons/ brothers gave me 90 days after OIF 1 on my way to my 3rd tour in Korea.
Alla that stuff is boxed up in the Harry Potter closet under the stairs the wife, kids, and grandkids if any happen can go thru that when I kick the bucket.
I roll sterile in john Q public.
But plenty of old wolves and young wolves I served with or raised up are around here.
Khanarella can burn me up in my class A,s in a garment bag in the closet.
Might make her a trinket fruit salad and metal schit shadow box and stick it the closet with the rest of the stuff to be discovered

I have the same garment bag in the back of the closet. I had no intention of seeing it on me again but…

The grandaughter wanted me to put it on for a Veterans day pic with her. 18 years later and it fits the same as always. Next time I wear it I’ll be getting that 21 gun taps thang.

Put some fake letters in there from Susie Chopstix hust to fugg with her mind one day

Fuuuk no man..

I been loyal to Khanarella since day 1.
I might be a azzhole.
But I ain't a adulterer.

Unless Xnxx is considered fooling around.
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Could get LRRPs when I was at FT Greely in the mid 80s thru TISA/Commissary. They stocked them for the Northern Warfare Training Center, 3 MREs a day didn't provide enough calories for winter training so they added a LRRP. Used them on some fly-in hunting trips.

Bought a case just before PCSing out in '88 and took them to my father's place - we would use them on backpacking and canoe fishing trips. They were as good or better than commercial freeze-dried stuff at the time. When I cleaned out my father's garage last summer after my parents passed I found three or those LRRP meals stashed away, still sealed up. Gave them to my brother, he'll almost certainly try eating them sooner or later!

I fit mine also.
Have 0 intention of wearing that pickle suit ever again while as a active O2 consumer.

This is the only thing I got on display mil service wise in the house.
Key chain is the only thing dealing with the truck.
Ain't no fugging rolling 201 file schit....



Fired 4 shots in desert storm.
That war was a joke for the 101st infantry Brigades.
Anyone says other wise is a bullschiter.

Gawd knows at least 2 or 3 thousand as a PSG during OIF one designating haji,s azz for my rear 240
Or walking daily patrols x2 a day me and the 2lt splitting up with our 3 hvy sqds we broke down wpns sqd and their 2 240 and Javelin crews into rifle men or Machine gunners
11 man sqd with a 240 team and the regular line sqd wpns.
Is alot of fire power in Mout Patroling.
OIF 1 for us was not a joke.

Nice !

By the way, I don’t wanna fit my uniform. I never in my life figured we’d be where we are now, I’d rather be fat dumb and aloof.

My first wife burned all my chit. LOL. She was getting back at me for burning her deployment boy toy's chit I guess. He always wanted a piece of me and I don't even know or care who he was. She tells him she saved his life by not letting him come save his stuff. "Not letting him".............................. that cracks me up to this day.

The only thing I have is my long peacoat and I only have it because it was winter when she left me. I wear it every winter, fits just like it did in another life. Still weighs about 40 pounds.

Same here on the first P38 and the beans and franks.

Turkey Roll was my favorite in Cs.

Couldn't stand the spiced ham or spaghetti and meatballs.

Loved the peaches and poundcake and the Dead Duke Discs. Fruitcake was good too. We used to take these little plastic bottles of syrup and add it for energy.

I liked the tuna fish too. We'd pack little blister packs of soy sauce from the Chinese restaurant off of Bragg Blvd.

We thought we were movin'up when we got MREs. That had to be somewhere around 81 for us at Bragg. Right about the time we got the kevlars and BDUs.

That sucks.
After Desert storm we had 4 fatal shootings in 327th brigade area till early 92 and another cat blew half his face off with a 9mm Glazer rd.
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1 was samurai sword dude ole lady cheating on him.
MP,s dropped him and also hit my PSG,s beamer in a quarter panel.😄😄😄
Pretty interesting to watch from a distance that afternoon.

3 were some Joe's ole lady was cheating on him and he was getting chaptered.
Wasnt supposed to go to the field already did his phys.
Brigade going out on eagle flight 4,s combined arms exercise.
Ole dude shows up with a .357 walks in 1sg office 1 in the chest 1 in the head for him...
Blows out the supply Sgt spine and heart trying to run away.
Then he goes out and blows his brains out in front of his company doing PCC,s and PCI,s


Glazer boy married to a stripper at cat west.
Going to field again.
She drives him in.
Dude reaches under seat grabs the pistol .
I love you and sticks it in his mouth .
Blew off half his face.
Lived..... medevac to vandy.


Both of them field problems got pushed back 3 or 4 days.


Cooolio!!!
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All related to fuggers who lost their minds over a piece of poontang.

I had to buy 2 camo Bdu feild jackets at Carson
2 Od green ones from Benning issued.

Them old flying nun collar Bdu,s..
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Your story is very similar to mine!

I have my pea coat. 🍻

I hate to admit it, but when I was going through Basic, we were still getting C-rations. Loved the John Wayne bars! As Renny stated, the very first MRE's (Mean, Rotten and Evil's) were basic in nature. The dehydrated patties whether Pork chop, Beef, or even the Potato (Hashbrown which was like a potato chip! LOL) could provide a tasty snack, but your belly would bloat when they rehydrated in your gut! LOL

My favorite back then was the Meatballs in BBQ sauce (at least I hope they were meatballs! LOL) The beef slices in BBQ sauce weren't bad neither....the chicken ala King gave me the dry heaves, always traded it off to someone else.

I have some of the original P-38's around somewhere still, and I gave each of my kids one of my original dog tags. Seem to have misplaced my black stealth ones.

Frog--OUT!

Most of my MRE cuisine came in by sling load while we were coyoting out on some saddle... in some middle of nowhere fire in NM, AZ, Idaho et al.

Most came in with supplies easy and properly landed... but I still remember the one they lost inbound. Unboxed MREs and water cubies from heaven.

Firefighter MREs were ALWAYS old as chit hand-me-downs... loose because the boxes had been culled by the base camp fuggs.

Veggie eggs at an almost satanic 10:1 ratio.

Old days... before ICs got all obsessed with that safety stuff.

Eating stuff like that will increase your future healthcare costs, not worth it.

Looks like Slavek took a double dose of Haldol and Viagra this fine morning...

I do not believe in storing large amounts of supplies. When SHTF it only gives others reason to kill me and steal all my stuff. Two months worth is plenty. For emergency I try to buy food in glass jars, no cans.

Remember archaeologist son telling me while they were doing shovel test out at white sands missile range, one of the guys found an old can of some kind of C-rat cuisine. Can’t remember. May have been one of those little cans of artificial cheese Exxon made. I don’t remember. Anyway in a drunken stupor bet, he (the finder) ended up eating it. Maybe it wss the cheap beer. Think the combo gave him som issues.

Update!

Son said it was a can of peanut butterthat was found! I remember cooking with those!!! If you put a heat tab in the opened can you could sometimes get it to burn about two hours! 👍

People giving that pinhead sockpuppet the time of day too by responding to him.
How quickly they forget it is a Masar Cardonas one.
Wonder if his friend " Glockdoofus" is bouncing off him down in the handgun forum...
Fuuuuking stooopid schit .

What a fuuuuking pathetic life he has.
All revolving around sockpuppets on here cause Bin gave him the boot as Masar long ago....


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Oh man....
Heat tabs....
Lol!!

We would be setting up TCP,s in Korea 1st tour.
Rolling thru villes.
Throwing out mre track pads those super hard brownies out the turret of a gun hummer
Throw out crackers, main course schit.
Kids be all scrambling to get at em fighting each other.
Little kids never got schit....
Oh.....
You don't know how to share without fighting???
And ya wanta be greedy and gloating about it....

Lit heat tabs with the top tore off made em a little more cautious and careful about snatching schit up after a few sets of fingers got treatment.


American goodwill and schit...
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Yep.

I told everyone who would listen - do not, I repeat, DO NOT surprise the wife with flowers and wine or whatever her poison may be. Call her two weeks out, call her one week out, call her the day before and then call her when you're on the way. Wimminz are some dumb MF's when it comes to loneliness. I only stayed with my crazy one for the kid but I was a different man after the first discovery of someone else's stuff in my house. His stuff in my garage bothered me more than his stuff in my bedroom to be honest. I was a ho monger for a long time.

Watched two home boys discussing who their old ladies were with while we were at ADT. They be all laughing like and saying “I know she be phuquing that fat mofo” et al. White boy says something like “ well I know my old lady ain’t doing any of that schidt!” Homeboys are rolling like your average howler monkeys shouting, “Hell! She’s felmale ain’t she??? She out trolling dick!!!” Fight ensues!

Funny thing was home boys was spot on. Whitey walks in to big surprise.

Fun times.

Weak people never get schit in 3rd world schitholes either.
That might makes right mentality.
Pizz,a me off alot.


Older Haji woman in Mosul had Parkinson's waiting in a bank line literally hundreds of yards long 100 degree city heat.
Man line
Woman line
All waiting for the 40 buck govt pay for various schit from retirements, vet pay form Iran Iraq war, disabilities, their version of social security.

That schit all collasped after we took over during OIF1 and we started paying it to calm some schit down.

Walking the line with one of my Joes.
Seen her reminded me of my MIL.
Seen really old people being dragged on rugs by family members.

Fuuuking bullschit ...
Last thing the sqds needed was people dead in the line.
Not good cause these other fuggg,s in the line would say Americans killed granny because of the line and get people all riled the fuuuk up and then we got a haji riot on our hands.

Got shakey outta the line with pantomime gestures and brought here right to a teller in the bank to get her out of the heat.

Man line and woman line flipping the fuuuk out.
Pizzed me off. 0 regard to the sick, disabled, or elderdy.
I Fired 3 shots in the air to put a end to that bullschitt.
Deathly quiet then.

Then had teams of Joe's screening the line to bring people up to the front who needed to get out of the heat.
Grannies being dragged on rugs.
Amputees from the Iran war.
People carrying babies.
Ect ect ect.

Teach these fuuukwads some basic human compassion.

Pointless after 2 weeks of doing bank detail when we left.
But the word spread after that day to behave yourselves at our assigned bank and not flipp out if the americans are giving help to those whom they feel need it.

I remember one fuuuking retired Republican Guard Colonel that 1st day stroll right to the front of the line. No one fippiing out cause they knew who these azzholes were.
Says I am Colonel Dirka Dirka and I am here to get my retirement pay.
Perfect english all the way..


I'm like well I'm SFC Conqueror in you go wait your place in line
"Awa edgie Awa larketh" said that to him pompus azz
1st come 1st serve...
Dude got all in my 3 ft you gonna get hurt space

How dare you talk to me like that I am retied Colonel blah of the blah blah Republican gaurd unit.
I don't know if this peckerwood got a pistol on him or what.

Dude got guick knee blow from the butt of my M4 howling on the side walk, got patted down, nothing on him, and escorted to the rear of the line to wait for his pay.
Lines seen all this schit.
Started cheering clapping , showing pecker wood the bottoms of their sandals.
Bout 3 hrs later his turn came up.
Kept his piehole shut.
Money is a strong influence for better behavior..


I kinda regret actions me and my Joe's did at times to show decency and compassion to those primatoids.

It was all pointless in hindsight, but we did what we thought was right...
I'm sure when ISIS took over Mosul brutality was at a apex
Then when the Iraqi Army basically flattened Mosul with Artillery to take out ISIS it had to be really fuuuked up in that city...
We couldnt even call for 60mm or 81mm without Bde Cmdr approval.
Even fuuuking LOS observed fires with motars...
105,s.... schit....
That was MG Petraeus level schit.

Even if we could have used indirect.
JFC. It would have been 15 30 mins later by the time ya heard go for it or fuuuk no...
And fuuuking haji knew that schit also and knew we couldnt fire indirect.
Apache support in mout.
Forget it...
2.75, hellfire, chain gun in mout...
Uh huh....

But they sure as fugg flattened that city with Arty taking out ISIS years later....

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Joe does some stupid schit when he picks up a chick who has taken her ring off at a club.

Waaaay to many tales about that schit.

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When I was single.
Just pick up the bytch.
Fuuuk her and forget her.
And sure as fuuuk dont tag someones old lady in your company, Bn, or Bde.

Hit the Remf old ladies.
All ya gotta do is talk to em with some open ended convo and figure out their old man is in the feild or in such and such unit.
Some of the bytches tell ya straight up the deal.
Old pros looking for some spice in their life.

Some Joe's especially young ones fall in love with a bytch at the club and lose their minds.

Then the troubles begin and the leadership is dealing with stupid schit, MP,s other chain of commands, ucmj.
Ect ect ect.

Dont miss that soap opera schit at all....

If I remember right, the first generation ones that I remember eating didn't even have the little pussy heaters in them. We just always ate them cold. I guess you could have stuck them in your crotch for a while to warm them up if it was a big deal.

I made the mistake one time when I was a WSL of telling my PSG his ho bag Panamanian old lady was at the club swapping spit for several weekends with some Joe.
Me and 2 other Sqd ldrs in the platoon seeing it plain as day.
Bytch knew who we were and her old man was our PSG.

He looked at us 3 as being at fault for "knowing" after that.
You could tell he knew his old lady was doing it and he let it go on.
Uh huh....

About 3 months after that he PCS,d said his request for assignment to Ft drum got approved.
Back then you could call your branch and via touch tone request assignments as long as you had 12 months at current station and enough time on enlistment left.

He took his cuck azz someplace else to play that game more.
Got discovered and embarrassed by it
From then on out I would never say a word to a guy thinking I was doing the right thing by telling him schit about his ole lady doing what the fuuuk ever.

Not worth it...
They blame you for it in ways...




Now I must admit I used that branch assignment line for the 2 or 3 yrs it existed in the early to mid 90,s to send schitbyrds on their way to other assignments.

Gee you got orders to Ft polk???

Awe man Korea ain't bad for a 12 month tour.

Come on dude opfor assigmment to 1/4 IN at Hohenfels will look good on your record for promotion to E7 years from now.

Department of the Army/Perscom got rid of the touch tone assignment thing.
They had to see what was happening..
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I imagine army wide it was a useful tool for leadership at various levels to do toliet bowl flushes...
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Maybe his old lady was addicted to fried chicken, that was whore attractant at the Howard club. It was cash down on “Calle J”.

Oh the heaters when they came along also brought out the sir dumb of azz factor too.

Stupid fuggs putting em in their sleeping bags to keep their feet warm getting all fugged up from the gas.
Medics heating up IV bags with em
Joe warming up his brain bucket with em or having one in it on gaurd duty in winter.


Chow and heater bombs in a plastic bottle all they was good for.
Or sadistic joe entertainment with a mouse or a frog doing the poison gas and heat treatment thing.
Put a stop to that schit if seen at times.

Same stunts repeated....
Different units and faces....
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We used to call em the Panamian wrecking crew when their were a supply of them around back in the early 90,s.

Just like Korean whores from the club joe fell in love with and brought back to the states.

I was lucky to have never set a foot in Korea but the DNA has spread worldwide.

Be out in the middle of fuuuking nowhere at Sherman doing a JOTC rotation.

Along comes Jungle boy.
Shorts, flip flops, milk crate hanging off neck with a peice of rope full of cold cokes.



WTF????

No you ain't buying no fuuuking cokes doing PB ops just cause you heard your friends in C co get to do it.
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Go talk to C co nco,s about that bullschit when back in the rear.
Get the deer in the headlight routine from some.
Get the that schit dont go down in my platoon from squared away guys.

You can always tell schitbyrds no matter what their rank is.

“Jungle” was most of my career. I was always amazed at the indigenous throughout the world that could smoke, drink, and do everything better than top shape GI’s any day of the week.

I don’t know what the Henry Morgan patch means anymore but it ain’t JOTC. I was in the BX one day and saw a Black Lady wearing it and tried to talk about it, she said its a unit patch ?

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I don’t know if you spend much time on base anymore but it ain’t good.

Honest to God, about two weeks ago the wife and I went to the lab for checkup bloodwork, the GI next to me pulled off “Its” shirt for blood draw and had tits. It was with a group of other ITS. One of the fellas had a purse. My wife was floored !

They are TRANSforming all of the INTEL and executive positions right now, not so much on the trigger pullers.

Even the non-elite trigger pullers are starting to look like mash mellow men though.

Lol!!!

Be on a knife edge ridge line in Korea on a 3 or 4 thousand ft Yama
(Mountain)
You can cover alot of clicks moving on the high ground.

Some 70 75 yr old granny with a fused spine all bent over,
Wooden A frame on her back full of fire wood or oak branches with acorns on for cows.
80 90 pds of schit on the a frame apexing about 2 ft above her nogging.
Better get out of grannies way.
That bytch be coming thru with the quickness, bytching at ya ta make way on a 1 to 2 ft wide trail with 60° 1 to 2 thousand ft slopes on each side.

Sqd or platoon movement
Park your azz fast and do the ruck sack flop to let her by.


Watching her go by yapping in korean all ticked in wonderment and awe...
Katusa,s talking to her all respectful and schit as she goes on down the trail.

Seen that schit many times..

A frame granny with a ton of sticks hauling azz like a sherpa..


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I rarely if ever go to the PX. and havent been to the commisary in years.
The prices at the Px for ammo are the same or more than off post.
AAFEES figured out that game long ago.
Or equal to the taxed price off post.

I used to place the price match game with em on 420 cans of M855 versus wally price.
Save about 40 bucks on em but always a hassle to do it
They would call up the wally world to confirm
Even would have pic of the price and in stock item on the phone.

All right play your little game mr clerk I got the extra 5 or 10mins for you to call and have a cock stick out of your forehead after.


That was years ago before they did their equal pricing to the taxed point of off post items.

Got one daughter surgical nurse fixing to make major.
Married to a 10th group Major at Carson
Another Daughter got out as a Captain fly,s UAV,s now for one of the 3 letters.

Have heard all the stuff.

See it around here in Clarksvegas too.


Honk for Joey......

Yeah the deals not so much, never was. I drop into the commissary's here and there.

I’m on several bases around here frequently.

God Bless Nurses

I’m fixing to head to base in a few and have my “Let’s go Brandon” shirt on

Deer, tree rat, Turkey hunt on post.
86 k acres huntable in the back 40 when areas are open.
Was in all 3 bde,s over the years.
So know the place pretty good.
Not a issue going into the unknown like many others have going into whatever area they get.

That is kinda the biggest retirement benny to me in ways.

Doc and dental stuff off post or VA tier 1 use.
E room stuff go up on post then get steered to PCM referral doc cause that is all he is to begin with IMO.
Same with the VA PCM referral doc.

That's all they are.
Cushy job referral docs.

Get me to a surgeon to do a mechanical fix on x joint that's all I need you for.
Get on your little puter and do your admin job or put you sig block authority on who ever does it for you.
You are a low level screening and processing tool referral doc.
Nothing more , nothing less and you know it and you wanted to be this role...

I definitely enjoy the hunting benefits and secret rec spots.

I have 3 PCMs, VA, Base, and private Doc.

I have dental Insurance, VA dental (vouchers), and the base takes care of stuff that happened on active duty concerning maxiiafacial or implants.

P38 on dog tag chain, dog tags on neck. Not going to get buried in uniform after 23 years in it. Jeans and flannel shirt, closed lid.

Retirement check is nice though.

Man I got chaptered out in basic training Hurt my knee on a run.. I could’ve went back in but you know I was way too smart for the Army..

Hey,
I was a Drill Sgt in Harmony Church 83-85 A-2-2

I used to know a lot of guys who drilled at Harmony Church when I was Black Hatting over at Jump School. Some of them were there 80-85.

Well you had to know Dave Daniels or it might have been Dan Daniels and Phil Hafler. I think it was Dave Daniels but we called him handy dan; he was a 173d Vet as was all of those others. They were both Ex-Black Hats and in my company. I knew a few others Irvan Feguson, Charlie Copeland, and another friend of those two named Tommy; we were all in C 2-503d.

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D-4-4
3rd herd.
Drill Sgt,s
Burke
Boseke
Sorsdahl
Long 14 weeks OSUT/COHORT company.

We actually had a Keg party/ softball game with all the drills after Basic grad before starting our 11 series track.
Had 8 11C,s out of us 99.
They thought they was special and schit...🥴🥴🥴😄😄😄

Started day 1 with 144
End of 14 weeks had 99 left.
TDP types falling by the wayside thru out, mostly during basic phase espically the 1st 4 weeks.

Gawd ...
I was 20 yrs old in 83 and you guys were the old meanies.

JK..
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Buncha us little nuggs looked up to you guys outta respect and not fear.
Learned alot from guys like you all.
Schit been going on since valley forge
The older wolves raising up younger wolves
Repeated thru time..
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D-4-2 no 4th Bde. Bob Krahn was in D-4-2 maybe not your platoon DS. He and I served together 3 assignments in a row, Campbell, Benning, then Bragg.

When were you at Campbell?
1st time I got their was July 90 to A co 2/337th.
But also been in the 3/187th and 1/502nd my 2nd and 3rd times their.
Actually came to Campbell from 1/503rd fron my 1st tour in korea.

I got sucked up in the Korea Campbell rotation 3 times.
001 bumper # with Infantry branch didnt help me.
Made Campbell my homebase assignment after that 1st tour.
I got hosed alot .
11 duty stations in 24 yrs.
Dudes be at the same units 4 5 6 years.
Oh your still here type of thing.
Longest I ever stayed in one place was that 1st tour at Campbell little over 4 years.

It's interesting to ponder how it must be to spend 24 years in the military getting bounced from here to there,...and how during that time you find out you're getting bounced into a hot combat area. Maybe multiple times over the course of 24 years.

That must give a man something to think about in the days between hearing about it and being in it.

Doing your job,..going through the motions,...then one day you've got to go be a trigger puller.

Hafler was a friend of Russell Hoggard's I'm pretty sure. The other name doesn't ring a bell. Russell was 173rd in I-Corp in Nam .... he served under that crazy bastard that wrote the book "Soldier" ... the guy who won the Turkish Medal of Honor, I can't remember his name off the top of my head.

3rd Herd was a helluva unit during the Tet Counter Offensive and they were who I ETS'd with in Vicenza, Italy. They came in from Russellville my last tour over there.

I jumped into Campbell a few times when I was with the 82nd .... one of them was the darkest hottest night jump I ever made. Suchon DZ ... I always hated jumping that DZ.

Never did a tour in Leg Land, was on jump status my entire time in service except basic and AIT. Benning, Bragg, Vicenza, Benning, Bragg, Vicenza, Stewart, Bragg, Bragg, Bragg, Vicenza.

That's why I wear the SETAF colors on my beret in my picture to the left.

Seen alot of the planet from those 11 duty stations also.
Norway
Panama
Morocco

Enough of the middle east Kuwait, Saudi arabia, Iraq x2


Traveled all over europe when stationed in germany.
Korea.....
Canada in NewBrunswick Gagetown???
All over the U.S.
Unca suga travels basically...

Last jet ride was civilian work coming back from the Black sea in april 2015.
Pretty much knew when I got off the plane in Nashville that day.
I wouldnt ever fly again.

Dont care if I fly again anywhere and the idea of travel for fun is not for me.
I can make it to Maine driving in 22 23 hrs when that situation comes up.
And that will probably be the last time I have to do that.
My wife and daughters are damm Yankees who have spent most of their life in Tennessee.
Which I have also when I think about it 32 out of 59 yrs as a Tn resident.

We are racking up frequent flier miles back and forth to Australia.

Jet settin teens gonna put me in the poor house

shewww weee

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Should have enough for that Summer 2023 tour stop in Christchurch NZ for the TayTay/Ed Sheeran date

You both are a generation overlap with me it seems which is cool.

Old school Nad 27 map showing the rolling terrian of Suchon.
Flown in and out of that DZ all hours of the day on Blackhawks
All the newer wgs 84 and after suck.
Contour lines on em suck.
Woodline on em sucks.
DOD cartography has gone down in quality and detail.

Have killed alot of turkeys in the Sw corner of Suchon
And deer hunt area 21 religously.
People are turned off by the 7 and 8 yr old clear cuts in it.
They dont realize the hardwood corridors left uncut in all them over grown briar bramble pine brush and sapling clear cuts.

Are prime movement corridors.

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Such a waste....
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LOL

we had some peacenik buttons from a Geospatial conference. I think from one of digital photogrammetry contractors. Made up like 911 FDNY stickers


NAD 27
NEVER - FORGET


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They're good just smell them and eat them I have a all kinds of different years of MREs the best ones were the ones that were kind of stabilized at a certain temp like in the garage overhead at 60° for 10 years they're a lot better than the ones that went to 40 below and then 80 above 10 or 20.. but I still eat arable

Modern topo maps suck..

Oh look somehow this big ole sinkhole depression with its dashed contour lines on a Nad 27 map turned into fully enclosed contour lines and is now a hill on the 2007 FTCKY special series map.

They also took a 2000 series map cut the outline of off post and cut the 2007 map of post cut the out line of post on it.

Superimposed that on top of the 2000 map.

Reproduced that about so many times the only contour interval on the post part were the 100m ones.

64 th or 63rd Engr detachment.
Buncha DOD civilians doing that schit back then

What a fuuuking abortion that map was.

I kinda value my Old school nad 27 map.

All ya gotta do is add 300m to the northern reading on a wgs 84 gps device to translate to a nad 27.
Or just set the GPS to read Nad 27 MGRS.

I left Ft Campbell in I think Sep 1983 for the last time. I was in the 2-503d when we went "Regimental" and became 4-187th. I was in a Blachhawk crash on Sukchon; we hit that lone "conspicuous" Oak tree during the first flight with NVG's. I jumped Sukchon twice with a third being a "no go" for I think winds aloft. It wasn't the third jump, maybe first or 2d. Too many years and too little mind, LOL!!!

When I was in the army in the early 70's, it was C rations. The entree was in a tin can that could be opened and set on the hot engine of a vehicle to heat assuming you weren't in a hurry to eat. I don't know when fuel tabs were added but we never had them. They featured the John Wayne cookie, a chocolate covered disk of some kind of dessert materiel that would cure the world's worst case of dysentery. They weren't bad to eat and added a crap load of calories. You sure didn't let those sit for 10 years before you ate them. They'd get so hard that they'd literally stop a 12 ga. load of pellets. I know because I tried it with one years after I got out. We set it on a log and shot it. The pellets flipped it but wouldn't penetrate.

Even that was a misnoner, RC. True C Rations ended in the 50s, IIRC. What we had in 'Nam were MCIs, which stood for for Meal, Combat, Individual. But because it had a C in the name, we still called them C rats. It didn't hurt that both C and MCI rations were packed in cans and looked a lot like each other - but they were in fact different.

I hear people using MRE for all kinds of rations, even foreign ones as if it were a generic name. It is not. Heck, we also have other rations in the US that aren't MREs. There are TOTMs, FSRs, and HDRs just as a start. They use many of the same components of MREs but are not in fact MREs.

If it is that oak with the old chained off grave yard by it.
Only one on the whole drop zone.
You are one lucky person.
It is still their about 110 yrs old at least and about 80 ft tall or more.
And it is the only one on the whole DZ.



I been on alot of Blackhawks, close calls but never a crash was on a auto rotate landing up on Bastonge. That wasnt pleasant for about 15 secs after we realized what was going on.
During Desert Sheild training we came flaring in on a dried over old pond sorta thing.
Like ice on a pond to describe it in way.
Bout a inch or 2 of dried sand crust about 2ft above the actual hard bottom.
Bird just slammed thru that from the momentum, seats all collasped on us in the back.

Air assualt into FOB cobra involved alot of mid air angle flaring and
rotar braking.
How hard is it to maintain space in daylight????
JFC.....
15 in back seats out kevlar blanket on floor full 96 hr combat load
Like sardines.


OIF 1 AASLT no kevlar blanket 18 in the back 96 hr load.
Waaay longer than previous AASLT we did in desert storm
2 FARP stops from Kuwiat to get to the 3 Lakes outside of Ah Naf
Like 2.5 hrs total flying like that.
Agony....
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502nd had a bad crash with 2 Blackhwks putting on a demo company livefire for "VIPS " from Hopkinsville.
Rotars merging in broad day light
9 or 11 died that day,

A bad one in Mosul involved 2 Blackhawks with Haji doing a baited ambush on a medevac bird and a reserve one. Thst wasn't a good day..we had to QRF to that after it happened. 2nd or 3rd Bn guys.
I think 11 or 14 died in that one.

When I 1st got to campbell in july 90 the Bde,s each had 3 Bn,s
Been in em all.
Some of you guys in other divisions have probably done the same .
Went thru the early stages of the BCT concept in april may 04 when they stood up the 506th as 4th Bde.
Basically what they did was add a Cav Bn with Hummers and yank a IN BN to stand up a 4th bde.
2 IN Bn,s
1 Cav BN made up a Bde then.

Then I heard after about 12 to 14 yrs of that they stood down 4th Bde and the 506th in the last one or 2 yrs again.
Schit changes and units disband or get restrained and redisginated.

I was in 1/ 506th on Camp Greaves my 2nd tour in Korea 95 95.
Americans had no more DMZ patrol mission.
Long Boring tour.
Used to be 2 month train up for the Z and then 4 months on it.
So it made that year go by fast in retrospect.

Unca suga hit me 90 fuucking days after a yr in Iraq in OIF1 at 19 yrs 5 months for my 3rd tour in Korea 04 O5
Had to make a decision retire or stay Indef status and go.
Decided to go and maybe pick up a pity promotion to E8.
Uh huh...

By the time I retired in 08 I was probably the Army,s longest TIG e7
Made 7 in 11 and stayed for 13 yrs.
Had a restricted fiche with a nice little ucmj blurb in it from being a young E5 in Germany in 87.
Wouldnt change a thing and would still beat the fuuuck outta them 2 Joe's in my platoon that night.
LOL!!
Lotta my peers, Joe's, and O,s I served with over my time would run into me being LTC,s Col,s, SFC to CSM,s
Always a good discussion about me being the most long tooth E7 on the Planet.
But also alot of the stories about you I have told to soldiers, Nco,s and 0,s about when I served with you and how you made me part of who I am.
Made me feel good never no resentment about guys surpassing me in rank, that was on me. Ehat a NCO is supposed to do.
Pass on his experience and knowledge to young wolves.

1st chapter of my life was civvy dude growing up in maine.
2nd chapter was the army
Both of those done.
3rd chapter now and someday that will be done.
I dont have alot to do with post now except hunting.
But run into people I have served with around here.
Some I vividly remember and have long talks.
Some I have to ask em for a mental prompt with a DTG and event.
They know who I was but I dont have a clue about them.
Kinda awkward for me, but I make it pleasant once the mind kicks in and can remember events.
Some Joe,nco, or O from another platoon or company type of stuff.

I took my grandson to Ft Campbell quite a few years ago, when I am not sure; I already addressed my weak mind, LOL. I went to show him Son DZ, the last place I jumped on Ft Campbell, but it was GONE! They had the brand new 4h Bde (506th Inf Regiment) there. I remember that the southeastern area on Son and the adjacent woods was a contaminated area from black birds being sprayed. I wonder just how cleaned up it was when they built those new barracks right there.

Lol the contaminated bird area by the old bayo assualt course is what is left of that big ole patch of woods now.
They went thru it in the early 90,s and did under brush eradication.
Left the big trees and let the brush grow back.
During the same time alot of deep sample wells were done al over the garrison area
4yellow protective poles and a big 8 inch yellow capped test pipe in the center.
Those are all over post per water table level stuff for sampling


Son DZ was gone long ago late 90,s early 2000,s
4th bde and Aviation Bde expansion used up alot of that wood lot to the old border of Son.


The contaminated bird area is a Bow hunting area on the garrison area of post.
Couple spots around the airfield also.
Behind Cav country
And the the railhead woods by AASLT school
AD can bow hunt them when open

They let AD sit on some of the small arms ranges and rifle hunt them also.
Very limited on that.

Everyone used to be able to rifle hunt west of Palmyra road.
911 ruined that.
DOD thinks Haji is low crawling in from LBL and doesn't want anyone shooting poor ole haji long distance and schit....

There was a kid from our Co that went to Benning as a black hat. Last name was Stanley, black kid. Did you know him? Cpl/E-4 type when I knew him.