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https://www.theblaze.com/news/ivermectin-covid-treatment-new-study

"A new peer-reviewed study found that regular use of ivermectin reduced the risk of dying from COVID-19 by 92%."

""The hospitalization rate was reduced by 100% in regular users compared to both irregular users and non-users," the study stated.

The impressive reduction for regular ivermectin users was evident despite the regular users being at a higher risk for COVID deaths. The regular users were older and had a higher prevalence of type 2 diabetes and hypertension than irregular and non-users."
Fug the CDC
yep
Duh.

Exactly.
Originally Posted by Esox357
Fug the CDC

Fug the whole corrupt system, big Pharma, CDC, dirty politicians, Liberal pukes running hospitals, etc. A lot of corrupt people got paid while a bunch of people died that didn't need to.
They knew early on that it was a cheap, safe, and effective treatment, but had to suppress it in order to get their scam through. It was pretty obvious what was going on to anyone with his eyes even partly open. If they didn't suppress it, they couldn't legally give the vaccine an emergency authorization, and they couldn't use COVID-19 to scare people into accepting the tyranny they were planning for us all.
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by Esox357
Fug the CDC

Fug the whole corrupt system, big Pharma, CDC, dirty politicians, Liberal pukes running hospitals, etc. A lot of corrupt people got paid while a bunch of people died that didn't need to.

Agreed
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
They knew early on that it was a cheap, safe, and effective treatment, but had to suppress it in order to get their scam through. It was pretty obvious what was going on to anyone with his eyes even partly open. If they didn't suppress it, they couldn't legally give the vaccine an emergency authorization, and they couldn't use COVID-19 to scare people into accepting the tyranny they were planning for us all.
Originally Posted by Esox357
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by Esox357
Fug the CDC

Fug the whole corrupt system, big Pharma, CDC, dirty politicians, Liberal pukes running hospitals, etc. A lot of corrupt people got paid while a bunch of people died that didn't need to.

Agreed

Yup well said
Fauci needs to swing from the tallest tree in Washington.
there is a rabbit hole type attack on this guy on twitter, so much so that someone chased down the claims against him to see if they were valid.

Its a situation where one author goes on a witch hunt against the doctor and then everyone uses that article as their source

https://doyourownresearch.substack.com/p/the-misportrayal-of-dr-flavio-cadegiani?s=w
This was October 9, 2020 National Institute of Health.Gov

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33073202/

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/

OF COURSE IT WORKS

Google "Ivermectin, Famotidine, and Doxycycline"... it is all over the web...

It was just not legal to help people stay alive... when big pharma had so much profit yet to make on the vax.

I thought everybody knew this...
Here's a link to the published study.

https://www.cureus.com/articles/111...-controlled-population-of-88012-subjects
Anyone actually go read the article and in particular look at the discussion?

https://www.cureus.com/articles/821...subjects-using-propensity-score-matching

- He took money from the mfg's of ivermectin (he claims "not much")

- The prevalence of intestinal parasites in that city due to bad sanitation means most of the population was taking ivermectin regularly anyway. Those parasites are a major contributing factor to bad health outcomes including covid.

- This is a data analysis not clinical because of above and the data was pruned in odd ways.

A pretty good example of confirmation bias for the normal CF crowd "ivermectin works, it's all a giant conspiracy and it's also a great dessert topping when you use the pumpkin spice flavor" grin
Tag
But it's cheap and available............
Are we still in the get the vax and you definitely won't get Covid or Get the vax and save Gandma and grandpa's life because we guarantee you 100 per cent you can't spread covid if you get the shot. No booster required.

If you get the first booster you won't spread or catch covid....

Get the second booster We can guarantee you won't get covid.....



Originally Posted by Pugs
Anyone actually go read the article and in particular look at the discussion?

https://www.cureus.com/articles/821...subjects-using-propensity-score-matching

- He took money from the mfg's of ivermectin (he claims "not much")

- The prevalence of intestinal parasites in that city due to bad sanitation means most of the population was taking ivermectin regularly anyway. Those parasites are a major contributing factor to bad health outcomes including covid.

- This is a data analysis not clinical because of above and the data was pruned in odd ways.

A pretty good example of confirmation bias for the normal CF crowd "ivermectin works, it's all a giant conspiracy and it's also a great dessert topping when you use the pumpkin spice flavor" grin
So regular use of Ivermectin as prophylaxis for COVID-19 led up to a 92% reduction in COVID-19 mortality rate. Sounds really fantastic. Then you realize that the mortality rate for Omicron without preexisting or comorbidity issues for those between 10 and 60 is 0.0025 percent, or one in 40,000.
Tell that to this loser who posts in the Africa hunting section. He claims to be a Dr. as well. He's too much of a coward to come over here and defend himself though......

Originally Posted by jdollar
Sorry for the delayed response. Just saw this post. I leave in 4 days for the Caprivi via Doha, Joberg, and Kasane, then drive into Namibia. I and my wife( who has a PhD in nursing education) are vaccinated. As a retired physician, I consider anyone that is refusing the vaccine as stupid. It’s free insurance against a potentially fatal disease. Granted, the mortality rate is low, but the hospitalization rate isn’t for unvaccinated people. 85-90 % of people in hospitals due to COVID are unvaccinated. Enough said.
)

Originally Posted by jdollar
The virus is now ubiquitous and will remain so forever. It isn’t going away. The days of worrying about travelers spreading it are gone. All one can do now if you want to travel outside the US is follow the rules, whether it is vax or testing prior to arrival. Right now you must have a negative Covid test to re-enter the US but that regulation is expected to be lifted in the near future. Brother Raider believes the vax does no good and is dangerous. Check the graphs in the link, especially the US graph. The evidence speaks for itself.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination

You can’t fix stupid.
yep. I know 5 people who experienced strokes soon after booster or vax including my mom who had very few health problems. *5 years old. Day after booster she experienced a stroke. Spent a month in hospital where she then caught covid.


What does Dr Moron say about our open borders and the fact we have let in over 2 million unvaxxed illegal aliens during the deadly covid while we fired soldiers, firemen, doctors ,nurses, pilots for not getting the vax






Originally Posted by JGRaider
Tell that to this loser who posts in the Africa hunting section. He claims to be a Dr. as well. He's too much of a coward to come over here and defend himself though......

Originally Posted by jdollar
Sorry for the delayed response. Just saw this post. I leave in 4 days for the Caprivi via Doha, Joberg, and Kasane, then drive into Namibia. I and my wife( who has a PhD in nursing education) are vaccinated. As a retired physician, I consider anyone that is refusing the vaccine as stupid. It’s free insurance against a potentially fatal disease. Granted, the mortality rate is low, but the hospitalization rate isn’t for unvaccinated people. 85-90 % of people in hospitals due to COVID are unvaccinated. Enough said.
)

Originally Posted by jdollar
The virus is now ubiquitous and will remain so forever. It isn’t going away. The days of worrying about travelers spreading it are gone. All one can do now if you want to travel outside the US is follow the rules, whether it is vax or testing prior to arrival. Right now you must have a negative Covid test to re-enter the US but that regulation is expected to be lifted in the near future. Brother Raider believes the vax does no good and is dangerous. Check the graphs in the link, especially the US graph. The evidence speaks for itself.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination

You can’t fix stupid.
Did jdollar vote for Joey?
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
So regular use of Ivermectin as prophylaxis for COVID-19 led up to a 92% reduction in COVID-19 mortality rate. Sounds really fantastic. Then you realize that the mortality rate for Omicron without preexisting or comorbidity issues for those between 10 and 60 is 0.0025 percent, or one in 40,000.
It's just another chapter of covid/vax BS insanity
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by Esox357
Fug the CDC

Fug the whole corrupt system, big Pharma, CDC, dirty politicians, Liberal pukes running hospitals, etc. A lot of corrupt people got paid while a bunch of people died that didn't need to.
They are murderers. Every last one needs to be held accountable, but you can bet the democRATs won't be the ones to do it. I really doubt there will be any republicans who will do it either.

kwg
Originally Posted by kwg020
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
Originally Posted by Esox357
Fug the CDC

Fug the whole corrupt system, big Pharma, CDC, dirty politicians, Liberal pukes running hospitals, etc. A lot of corrupt people got paid while a bunch of people died that didn't need to.
They are murderers. Every last one needs to be held accountable, but you can bet the democRATs won't be the ones to do it. I really doubt there will be any republicans who will do it either.

kwg





They all need to hang. Republicrats won't do schit.

McConnell and McCarthy? Seriously? Gimme a break.
The one thing Trump screwed up on , was the push for the vaccine! He pushed the big pharma to come up with anything! He just didn't realize, his group were the enemy! He was still the best President since Ronny!
The only reason many got the shot, was because they believed Trump. MAGA!!!!!!!!!
I saw Ivermectin work first hand. My Mother in law is 70 plus years old, in remission from cancer, high blood pressure, borderline diabetic, overweight, etc. She was the poster child for high risk to die from C19.. A homeopathic doctor put her on weekly, light doses of Ivermectin, and Vitamin D3, Zinc, and C. She refused the vaccine, has no desire to get it...

She got the original, baddest strain of Covid 19. Couldn't smell or taste anything, high fevers, blood oxygen levels falling, etc...All she did was double up the Ivermectin, and they put her on Dexamethasone to help her breathe, and a Zpac, and she took the Vitamins daily. She had a really tough time, but survived and never had to go to the Emergency room....

I was a believer after she survived.. I imagine there are tons of stories like this that the media, the government, the CDC, and Big Pharma wants suppressed.
Fúck Big Pharma!

Just remember that many, if not most of you, are alive today because of BP.






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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Fúck Big Pharma!

Just remember that many, if not most of you, are alive today because of BP.


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How many FDA approved drugs are taken off of the market every year because they are toxic and harmful or don't work? Hundreds, and this after a supposed long FDA review process

Asking for a thalidomide baby. Depikote, zyrexa, Vioxx, oxycodone.....

Fines, lawsuits big Pharma

McKesson Corporation, AmerisourceBergen Corporation, Cardinal Health Incorporation, and Johnson & Johnson $26 billion 2022
GlaxoSmithKline $3 billion 2012
Pfizer $2.3 billion 2009
Johnson & Johnson $2.2 billion 2013
Abbott $1.5 billion 2012
Eli Lilly $1.42 billion 2009
Merck $950 million 2011
Amgen $762 million 2012
AstraZeneca $520 million 2010
Actelion $360 million 2018


Why did big Pharma lobby against Ivermectin? Why do so many big pharma firms bribe doctors to sell their wares? How many dead Americans from Oxy? Sackler family made billions and slap on the wrist


A good diet and daily exercise does wonders for your health. Ask any long time nurse why most people are ending up in hospitals and long term care these days
Guilty.

And yet many, if not most of you, are alive today because of BP.

Most people develop health issues because of lifestyle choices.




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I remember seeing the Pharma reps pimping Vioxx to my Dr's office. My Dr prescribed it to me and then I read about all of the death and tens of thousands of strokes caused by it. ooops

The few Pharma reps I know ( both huge libs) have never even taken a college level science class. One is a poly sci major the other a sociology major. So they have no clue as to what they selling.

I remember during Covid big pharma lobbied with the Phamacists' union not to fill life saving prescriptions. That should give you a clue as to big pharma and our health care system.

These same pharmacists enthusiastically. filled tens of millions scripts of oxycontin, Vioxx, Bextra, accutane, meridia, raptiva...... millions dead

what a clown world we live in. When huge corporate conglomerates pair with world governments we know that there are evil intents
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Guilty.

And yet many, if not most of you, are alive today because of BP.

Most people develop health issues because of lifestyle choices.




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So do you support the efficacy of BP's Covid "vax" and boosters?
Originally Posted by Ramdiesel
I saw Ivermectin work first hand. My Mother in law is 70 plus years old, in remission from cancer, high blood pressure, borderline diabetic, overweight, etc. She was the poster child for high risk to die from C19.. A homeopathic doctor put her on weekly, light doses of Ivermectin, and Vitamin D3, Zinc, and C. She refused the vaccine, has no desire to get it...

She got the original, baddest strain of Covid 19. Couldn't smell or taste anything, high fevers, blood oxygen levels falling, etc...All she did was double up the Ivermectin, and they put her on Dexamethasone to help her breathe, and a Zpac, and she took the Vitamins daily. She had a really tough time, but survived and never had to go to the Emergency room....

I was a believer after she survived.. I imagine there are tons of stories like this that the media, the government, the CDC, and Big Pharma wants suppressed.

Exactly 💯
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Guilty.

And yet many, if not most of you, are alive today because of BP.

Most people develop health issues because of lifestyle choices.




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So do you support the efficacy of BP's Covid "vax" and boosters?

??????
Pharm is 100% correct! Without big pharma, many here would be worm food! He's just stating facts! Y'all can't have it both ways. Quit your bp meds, your insulin, and whatever. Big pharma sucks, they also keep a lot of people alive that hate their guts!!!!
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Guilty.

And yet many, if not most of you, are alive today because of BP.

Most people develop health issues because of lifestyle choices.




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So do you support the efficacy of BP's Covid "vax" and boosters?


Not for a second.




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Originally Posted by ribka
The few Pharma reps I know ( both huge libs) have never even taken a college level science class. One is a poly sci major the other a sociology major. So they have no clue as to what they selling.


Of course I can’t speak to the intelligence of people I don’t know, but I’ll use myself as an example.

I do not have a science background. I have a BA in English and an MBA, focus on statistics. A few science classes in undergrad to meet graduation requirements but nothing beyond that.

Let me tell you, the training in Pharma is intense. I showed a doctor friend of mine some of my study materials on Type 2 diabetes and he said it was more comprehensive than what he learned in med school. When I got out of training I knew more about the disease than most of the family practice docs I called on. And if you don’t pass the training exam you get fired. I’ve seen it happen.

Again, you referenced two people and I’m only using myself as an example so the sample size is hardly sufficient. Most of the reps I’ve known over the last 25 years have been really smart people. Sure, some honeys got hired for their tits but they don’t tend to stick around very long.

I have to know my stuff because I’m providing information to highly educated people.





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And is there abuse? You bet. Show me an industry with clean hands from top to bottom.

And then go take your statin so you can have barbecue for dinner without having a stroke.
Seems to me that the benefits of Ivermectin use and election fraud are somewhat similar. In both cases, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that they have occurred, but double-blind, peer-reviewed, stand-up-in-court proof is hard to come by. You bets your money and you takes your chances. I take Ivermectin and I believe that the election was stolen from Trump. Change my mind.
Originally Posted by Heym06
The one thing Trump screwed up on , was the push for the vaccine! He pushed the big pharma to come up with anything! He just didn't realize, his group were the enemy! He was still the best President since Ronny!
The only reason many got the shot, was because they believed Trump. MAGA!!!!!!!!!

Trump was touting alternative medicines like HCQ and Ivermectin while pushing for a vaccine. He got ridiculed and badgered by the whole dang corrupt world for even mentioning studying the use of cheap alternatives. It didn't follow CDC guidelines remember? The same CDC that now admits they screwed up everything and botched their entire response to Covid.
There is no doubt we need pharma, but we need them in their place. I don't begrudge them big bucks, just not when they play politics, conceal data and get folks killed.
Originally Posted by oldtrapper
There is no doubt we need pharma, but we need them in their place. I don't begrudge them big bucks, just not when they play politics, conceal data and get folks killed.
Bingo!
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