EV trucks and heavy towing


Put in three passengers which is typical and tow in winter over mountain passes. lol

Two things:

1. I like the F150 but hate the EV F150 uni-brow headlight
2. Pure EV's for most people are stupid. Hybrid is a much better way to go for trucks.

The only thing an EV pickup is good for is local deliveries in town. I'd never even consider taking one any distance.

It'd have been interesting if he'd of gotten the truck with the dual battery towing package to use for a towing test.

over $80,000 for a battery powered truck with a 120 mile actual tow range? lol

what would battery replacement costs be for that dual battery EV package? lol

Recon they'd have any trouble navigating in Florida at present?

I have seen a corporation throw away millions to avoid the tiniest bad publicity.

This has got to be a real hit on FORD.

I'll take powerstroke for 1000 Alex.

I'll take the Italian cars in that garage....

I like my dodge diesels

It's the future.......

FJB and his EV's

I had my free service done on my truck Monday. Was talking to the shop foreman. They were being forced to put in Midlevel charging stations by GM. Every GM dealer has to do it.
He said it was a huge expense. They were having to add another transformer and service wires. They had to buy the charging stations. Battery balancing equipment they had no use for.
He said their chargers would take 8 hours to fully charge a car. And somthing like 37 hours to charge an E hummer. He said they have never sold an EV and didn't plan to stock one until there was infrastructure for them in the region.

I'd prefer the Ford on the trailer, myself.

Whoever put the ok stamp on that idea is a moron, and they deserve what's coming.

LOL... I was thinking the same thing... hauled 20k+/- last night and 16.2 mpg.

But it can power your house...

Come on man, I have 2 Dodge 6.7's, no way you get 16.2 towing 20K.

Car company is betting the vast majority of woke electric truck owners will never ever tow or haul anything. The tow rating was probably in the lab under optimized conditions.

That is what the dash reads... I'll take a pic if need be. Who knows if the dash lies... it is a UAW product. I have NOT done pencil and paper yet (only had the truck 4 month+/-).

FYI... the 20k is an honest estimate. I not 100%... sure 29' x 8.5' packed to the gills with really heavy chit. She was running heavy for sure... tires hot to the touch.

Just for s#its and giggles, what does the fuel economy of a standard F150 pulling through same weight on the same roads drop to?

Like trying to sell doo rags and afro picks in Mexico.

I’d like to a comparison in charge times vs filling up a truck with gas. Lol

Forgot the key... MPG later...

This

THAT, in SPADES!!


AMEN...

Semms to be so.

At this point it is not even close to being what I would call a "mature technology". Maybe someday, but not even close at this point.

Why is it the cool thing to bust E-vehicle?

I see liberal style, almost hysterical, fact twisting and scenario
picking constantly. How many even understand how the function
in use? Right now?

Towing with one is a farce. That truck was designed to work about
as much as any heated steering wheel, plush interior ladies truck.


I too was interested to see how it would do.
Not surprised at the turnout. Better performance then 80s 1/2 tons,
darn near similar range. Refilling being much more difficult.

How are a huge number of similar pickup ups used.

50 mile commute? Check.
Similar trip to haul stuff? Check.
Tow a small boat or personal atv/jet ski a relatively short distance? Check.
All of that can be accomplished charging with an extension cord overnight.

Longer use would require a boost.
Simple extension cord over a days charging or a charging station.

Instead of just stupidly bashing (used to). I did a bit of learning.

Buddy at work commutes 7 miles daily. Visits kids 100 miles away often.
He was upset how they are being forced on us and how bad one would
be to live with.

Depending on the car, he could drive to work 2 days between charges easily.
And still recharge with an extension cord overnight. Logically, he would
plug it in every night just to always have range available.

Visiting his kids, he could plug in at their house and that would get him home. Right now, chargers are spotty on his route. Eventually there will
likely be more. A quick charger would give him plenty of range to get home in 20 minutes or less. About how long it takes to pump gas, buy a coffee and leave a coffee.


Lotta Red Herrings get thrown around.
Charging times vary.

At home is best and cheapest. Takes all night on an extension cord.
Several hours on a 30amp 220v line. That can be T'ed off a clothes dryer.
Most can easily DYI it.
There is the option of a dedicated line from the breaker, also DIY for most.
Or even a dedicated service.
Those speed things up, at a initial cost.
And are unnecessary, if the car is parked for hours daily.

Stations can charge in minutes to an hour or more.
Depends on station and car.

Batteries, are like gas tanks. Devices to hold energy.
They do not need to be filled.

If you have a 150 mile actual range,
Are 75 miles from home,
And only have 15% of the battery,
you do not need to fully charge.
15 or 20 minutes on a fast charger would get you to maybe 70%
That would get you home.

Usable boost charging is often mis-represented.
The "fuller" a battery gets, the "harder" it is to gain charge.
Road tripping one isn't about station to station and fully charging.
Typically one would charge when down to 10-15% (1/8 tank)
Then charge to 80-90%, but not much more. Because the slowdown in charging isn't worth the extra range. That doesn't take long to achieve.
Especially a Tesla charger.

Long trips are certainly different. Current infrastructure and the phone apps offer pretty decent support over much of the country, on high travel routes.

This link shows most stations. You have to zoom for details.
Coverage in the higher populated areas isn't as good as the wide shot
shows. Not as bad in other areas.

https://chargehub.com/en/charging-stations-map.html


Have no dog in the E-vehicle fight, don't even own one.

It is an interesting technology, that has the potential to be a better
widget for a huge portion of our population.

Just as we should have gas and more diesel options, electric should
be a third option. Never a requirement.

Batteries aren't likely to replace engines soon.
Powerful equipment, remote operations, there will be a need for
an easily handled, energy dense fuel.

40 years ago having seen kids battery cars dead in 15 minutes,
7.2v drills with little power and life, I would have never imagined
a saw cutting 2x4s, an impact gun, a usable chainsaw!
Dam sure wouldn't have imagined an electric car out running a
700hp Hemi, and being able to go 200 miles.


The government needs to get out of it. Stop subsidies, start charging
a per mile road tax in lieu of gas taxes (on e-vehicles). Let the market
do it's magic and bring us the best/cheapest products.

EVs R BS. Fine for urban trips to Walmart.. Oh, and you can bet yer sweet bippy there WILL be either a 'road tax' for EVs or a yuge payment to the gov't for your next year's license tabs..

Y'all will pay - EV lovers... Get ready to bend over... All the gov't's doin' now is painting 'blue sky' numbers and hiding the real costs that are a'comin'...