https://weather.com/photos/news/2022-09-28-hurricane-ian-us

Thanks for the pictures. Go to the first picture in the article and look for the arrow pointing to the right and click to see the album, picture by picture.

Probably would be a bad time for Lindsey Graham to start pounding the table for another $50 Billion to be sent to Ukraine. "To fight for Democracy".

......consistent with past low pressure disturbances.

It gets hot in the desert.

Its cold as hell in Montana.

I'm surprised you can still buy Homeowners insurance in FL.

Sorry for peoples losses .

They had a week to move things out. Were the expensive boats just left to let insurance buy them new ones?

The majority of boat owners can't be bothered with moving their boats out of harm's way.

A lot of insurers require specific protective measures in the event of a named storm.

Gunna be a buncha cheap boats for sale soon

Well, you know what they say about the two happiest days in a boat owner's life....

A lot of boat owners shouldn't be.

Still amazing how many people live in areas prone to disasters, but don't do the simplest things to prepare.

folks out where you live just don't understand how these things work. laughing

With low supply to start, a lot of people are going to have a hard time replacing those vehicles. Going to have an impact on auto prices nation wide.

Wow......

joe will take care of everyone involved

I'll stay in high & dry Utah

Won't bitch about the lack of rain

Although its raining here today

Where are you going to take them ? How do you know where will be safe ? You’re also trying to secure your home and prepare for evacuation. Almost all boat slips are rented along the coast so you run up or down the coast and have nowhere to dock. Now you’re anchoring out in a protected area and having to arrange a way to get back to your family and evacuate with them or stay and take care of them. The logistics of trying to save a boat are hard.

A week ago the storm wasn’t predicted to come to SW Florida. It was going further up the coast or the big bend area. Heck , the day before it was predicted to go right up Tampa Bay.

Example of not knowing where is safe. Ian didn’t hit Key West but my aunt went into Key West to her office and said there was a boat sitting on a house on the way in.

Those flood cars will soon be at the auction house, probably in another state

Might be a good ide to consider all of that before you buy a boat. Or you could be irresponsible and allow them to become physical, navigational and environmental hazards. Where the storm hit was always in the projected cone.

Yep !

That's it exactly, and you can't really expect them to. The logistics of "moving a boat" just prior to a hurricane are complicated. Where do you move it? 50 miles up the coast? ( Where the storm is predicted to hit?) Key West? Who "moves" it, while your wife is evacuating with the kids? Etc...

The bottom line is that you pays your money and you takes your chances. Ian is (was) not a particularly bad hurricane, but they are all terrible if you are in the wrong place.

It's almost impossible for a hurricane to hit Florida in a "right" place.

Probably similar to moving your herd of bovines when an epic blizzard is on the way.

Ain't gonna happen.

Where somebody can pound on his head.

😄😄😄

Good analogy.

My old boss was a saltwater boat fan. He told me a lot of people buy a big boat and don't enjoy them as much as they expect to. They depreciate rapidly. But if you can get a storm knock a couple of holes in them you can get more money from insurance than you can selling them.
If you want a discounted boat. You can buy one of the totalled ones dirt cheap have it repaired and do some of the work yourself and get one for 20% of what it's insured value was.

#11 of Stedi.......

fire up that smoke

all will be OK

Moving a boat, especially an over 20 footer is a job all in itself. Get your trailer, load it up and drive it 175 miles, find a place to store it and then travel another 175 miles back to continue what you were up to. Sounds like a day all by itself.

I evacuated with my boat in tow. It never hurts to have an extra 65 gallons of gas at your disposal. Granted, evacuating the central Gulf Coast is easier than evacuating South Florida.

I have spent a lot of time on the Fort Myers area and I recognize many of the places that are pictured. Very sad to see, as much Fort Myers is a beautiful town. Damn thing is headed this way now.

Browsing around I was looking for a group of guys, I believe out of Louisiana that travel to disasters and help out. Was thinking donation.

PaulBarnard? Any other LA guys familiar?

https://www.gocajunnavy.org/

Comes with the territory. If you're going to build a house within 5 feet of high water line, your going to lose it on a direct hit. If you build it on stilts, you still lose it. Build it 5 miles back from the waters edge and 20 feet above mean tide and you'll probably be ok, unless a big live oak falls on it. There's a reason why larger vessels often prefer to take their chances offshore.

You're good if a tree falls on it. That's windstorm. You're f'cked if rising water gets you...that's flood. If you don't have insurance and live around Democrats, that's FEMA gold!

As far as ships are concerned...they just go somewhere else.

You can build a house that will withstand a direct hit from a cat 5. It’s going to be on concrete piers way up. The structure is going to be made of poured reinforced high strength concrete. Floors , walls , and roof all poured concrete. Windows and doors will be 150mph impact resistant and set in with steel shutters rated over 200mph resistant. Everything structural is built to 200mph+. A family friend built one in the keys. He said the engineer rated the structure to 300mph. Expensive to build !

Interesting interview this morning with a women that was in a damaged, flooded home in Ft.Myers with her family

After she described the devastation she had seen they asked her why she hadn't evacuated.

She said they did, they left their home in Tampa 100 miles north where the storm was predicted to make landfall.

As far as the boats go, it's much like anything else.
The media is trying hard to show the destruction but if you look closely you'll see boats that are sitting just fine and unharmed.

Some go a short ways offshore and anchor, but ya gotta have enough anchor and enough anchor line to keep it from dragging.

The boat will turn and keep itself pointed into the wind if done properly.

Boats can be secured by 4 point ties, they have to be good pilings driven deep with this purpose in mind. You have to have enough line to allow for the rise and fall and most important is having strong enough cleats on a boat to tie to that won't tear loose.

Suitable cleats aren't standard features, most are custom done with large metal plates or reinforced fiberglass inside a hull to bolt through.

If you have a suitable boat you can run it out into a bay and ride it out powered up. It's not unheard of.

I'm sure you'd find them on GoFundMe.com

https://www.gofundme.com/f/cajun-na...-fl?qid=b867b7b200bfb4d7d6304690e1fe5b51

A vessel usually stands a better chance at sea than on the bank in a hurricane.

99% of them are owned by someone who won't go near the water if it's raining

You would be supprised the insurance company won't cover their loss. they had time to keep the boats safely but didn't.
expecting money or a new one.

How would you know? Ever moved a 30 footer? Depends on the insurance you have also.

I don’t see any pics

All I see is a link

Another hit n run cut n paster

No courtesy to extract pics and do a batch upload???



Not taking my adblock down. Dont trust links. No sir

A former coworker of mine owned in whole or part several charter boats. I think it was the one she bought off See (of candy fame), that she had on the east coast - SC, IIRC. After dodging two hurricanes in one season, her hired skipper loaded the thing up and headed inland with the third storm on the way.

He didn't stop until Seattle.

Yepp... https://photos.app.goo.gl/4GKhn2FtjJWJJ4LD2

You can see the link with adblock, and ublock origin, running. There are a hundred photos.

I’m good

Just mocking the bobcat meat eating tin shed people.

I’ll open any link. ODB will take a leak right out in th skreet

I prefer pictures in a picture thread.

I wonder if the Mons made it? Scarlett’s?

The Galveston hurricane of 1900 changed the world of hurricane research and reporting. Between 6000 and 12000 people died in that one because no one knew it was coming. A wall of water swept over the island wiping it clean. After that, the US started researching hurricanes and finding way to predict them. Now days, we know everything about one at least a week in advance. What would Tampa Bay look like if Ian had come in like any other storm but nobody knew what was behind it?

If you have ever seen photos of the aftermath of any other hurricane, these look exactly like those.

Thanks!

Only had a couple days (really only one day - not enough in this instance) at most on this one. A week out, it was pointing somewhere else, forecasted to top out as a weak 3 and make landfall as a Tropical Storm. Two days out it was forecasted to land as a weak 3 over 250 miles from where it made landfall.

We can see them coming but intensity and track forecasting still sucks.

There already is! Florida has over a million boats, some very nice for sure but a whole [bleep] of very cheap to free for the taking. 20 year old big ones are the worst. They can be seen wedged up against the mangroves or sunk in shallow water just about anywhere. Costs the taxpayers to remove them and dispose of the carcass.