Competition primer seating tool anyone invest in one? Do you likes it? Priming with my Lee Auto Prime is a pain in the dick thinking about pulling the trigger on the Primal Rights tool.
A fool and his money are easily parted. P.T. Barnum
Fits perfectly here.
A fool and his money are easily parted. P.T. Barnum
Fits perfectly here.
That wasn't the question... Besides, I've never seen an armoured car chasing a hearse stupid fuqk.
I've heard good things, but the online persona of the owner is just plain douchy.
A fool and his money are easily parted. P.T. Barnum
Fits perfectly here.
That wasn't the question... Besides, I've never seen an armoured car chasing a hearse stupid fuqk.
If your can't take the answers, don't ask the questions.
I'm sure you know that the device is supposed to seat the primer a fixed distance below the case head. It does that. There are more than one problem with that design. First, the brass must be uniformed with respect to primer pocket depth. That's doable, but it's also a moving target. Brass flows to the case head as well as flowing to the neck and shoulder. If anyone doubts that, try using a fixed depth primer pocket uniformer until it reaches full depth and then fire the brass 2 or 3 X. Use the uniformer again and you will find that it will remove additional brass that has flowed into the case head. That means that for the PR seater to work as advertised, the primer pockets would have to be uniformed virtually every firing to maintain a consistent depth between individual pieces of brass.
The second issue is that every primer pocket uniformer available today indexes off the case head. The PR (like most, if not all) tool indexes off the forward edge of the case rim. If the rim thickness varies then the distance to the bottom of the primer pocket varies. There is not a commercially available tool to correct that problem if it exists.
That tool looks like a well machined and finished piece, but it won't do anything that a good hand held tool like a 21st Century, K&M or Sinclair will do at 1/4 the price. The bottom line is that the primer anvil needs to sit firmly on the bottom of the pocket and there's a bunch of tools that have worked well enough to win many benchrest championships without the expense. That P.T. Barnum guy comes to mind again.
I'm sure you know that the device is supposed to seat the primer a fixed distance below the case head. It does that. There are more than one problem with that design. First, the brass must be uniformed with respect to primer pocket depth. That's doable, but it's also a moving target. Brass flows to the case head as well as flowing to the neck and shoulder. If anyone doubts that, try using a fixed depth primer pocket uniformer until it reaches full depth and then fire the brass 2 or 3 X. Use the uniformer again and you will find that it will remove additional brass that has flowed into the case head. That means that for the PR seater to work as advertised, the primer pockets would have to be uniformed virtually every firing to maintain a consistent depth between individual pieces of brass.
The second issue is that every primer pocket uniformer available today indexes off the case head. The PR (like most, if not all) tool indexes off the forward edge of the case rim. If the rim thickness varies then the distance to the bottom of the primer pocket varies. There is not a commercially available tool to correct that problem if it exists.
That tool looks like a well machined and finished piece, but it won't do anything that a good hand held tool like a 21st Century, K&M or Sinclair will do at 1/4 the price. The bottom line is that the primer anvil needs to sit firmly on the bottom of the pocket and there's a bunch of tools that have worked well enough to win many benchrest championships without the expense. That P.T. Barnum guy comes to mind again.
Thanks for yor constructive reply. I'm going to take a look at all the alternatives you mention here.
One can over think , many things, and primer seating is one of them. Primer pockets are not flat from the drawing process and can vary in depth. From a competition standpoint, primer pockets are trued up with a cutting tool that flattens the bottom of the pocket and cuts to a uniform depth. Once done, the same tool can be used to clean the pocket of residue back to a fresh turned state.
Some pockets are not deep enough when new, the main thing is to get the primer below the case head, a few thousands below the head is good. A simple feel of the finger tip is all it takes. There are many priming tools, all of them hold the brass by the rim and press the primer in. The important thing is to feel the primer bottom in the pocket the same with each one, and a good tool will do that. And you don't have to spend a hundred dollars or more for a decent tool. Bench mounted seaters, or using the reloading press to seat primers don't give you the feel as a hand held tool.
GRIZZ,
Have you figured out how to use a Lee Priming Tool yet?
LOL
I’d think after 30 years you’d have this stuff down.
there are lots of good priming tools not near as expensive. and a whole lot better than Lee.
how particularly like the people who do not clean primer pockets cuz it makes no difference but then buys the most expensive gauged priming tool to be precise...