If You Really Wanted To Destroy The U.S.

This is an absolutely RIGHT ON article by Victor Davis Hanson. Pointing out the sad realities that are occurring today.

LINK: https://townhall.com/columnists/vic...y-wanted-to-destroy-the-us-then-n2616602

I fear for the future of this country.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Until the corrupt officials are gone, this is what will continue.

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

Right on, indeed. I've been saying for years now that this nation has become too fat, dumb, and happy. The "dumbing down" of America has been going on for over 5 decades now and is coming to fruition. Or as I often say; "Welcome To The Great Society".

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

Well adding that oil into the world market is still going to affect prices everywhere. No matter how you look at it the left is nuts. They are anti any sort of pipeline. It would be nice if the Canadians refined it, sure as heck would be more efficient.

I think the odds of Trudeau giving any sort of permit needed are less than slim, it would never happen. No Canadian refinery.

Originally Posted by VarmintGuy

This is an absolutely RIGHT ON article by Victor Davis Hanson. Pointing out the sad realities that are occurring today.

LINK: https://townhall.com/columnists/vic...y-wanted-to-destroy-the-us-then-n2616602

I fear for the future of this country.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Victor Davis Hanson is pretty smart.

Originally Posted by rickt300

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

Well adding that oil into the world market is still going to affect prices everywhere. No matter how you look at it the left is nuts. They are anti any sort of pipeline. It would be nice if the Canadians refined it, sure as heck would be more efficient.

I think the odds of Trudeau giving any sort of permit needed are less than slim, it would never happen. No Canadian refinery.

The Keystone Pipeline seems to mostly benefit Canada and only microscopically benefit the U.S. Wouldn't U.S. refinery capacity be better used to refine higher grade U.S. crude that would be consumed domesticlly?

If You Really Wanted To Destroy The U.S.

you'd have sheit for brains cops invoking illegal policies for decades,

and when they can retire,

they move 1000+ miles away,

to get away from the policies that they enforced.

That's Americanism to ZOGbots!

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

The Keystone Pipeline system has been moving oil from Alberta to U.S. refineries more-or-less continuously since 2010.

The Keystone XL was a much smaller "shortcut" pipeline to be added to the already existing Keystone system, which would pass through eastern Montana and Nebraska. In eastern Montana the "dirty" Alberta oil would be blended with "sweeter" oil from the Bakken oilfield, making it much easier to refine into cleaner fuel.

There was a BUNCH of resistance to the Keystone XL, due to it passing through the Nebraska Sandhills, which are above the Niobrara Aquifer, which produces a LOT of grain for the U.S. If the XL pipeline leaked it would cause major problems.

But the XL would be only a minor part of the Keystone pipeline system--which wouldn't affect the world price of oil more than (maybe) a few cents.

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

Originally Posted by rickt300

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

Well adding that oil into the world market is still going to affect prices everywhere. No matter how you look at it the left is nuts. They are anti any sort of pipeline. It would be nice if the Canadians refined it, sure as heck would be more efficient.

I think the odds of Trudeau giving any sort of permit needed are less than slim, it would never happen. No Canadian refinery.

The Keystone Pipeline seems to mostly benefit Canada and only microscopically benefit the U.S. Wouldn't U.S. refinery capacity be better used to refine higher grade U.S. crude that would be consumed domesticlly?

How about both? It doesn’t need to be one or the other if we had a stable and coherent longterm energy plan. I trust Canada as a reliable business partner and a country to do the right things environmentally over the Middle East.

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

No, that oil is STILL being moved. It’s moved by rail and trucks all owned by Warren Buffet who pays politicians to fix things in his favor; especially Democrats. It’s a lot more expensive and certainly a lot greater risk to the environment to do it that way. Look up Megantic QC for an example of why a pipeline is far safer.

Originally Posted by Mule Deer

The Keystone Pipeline system has been moving oil from Alberta to U.S. refineries more-or-less continuously since 2010.

The Keystone XL was a much smaller "shortcut" pipeline to be added to the already existing Keystone system, which would pass through eastern Montana and Nebraska. In eastern Montana the "dirty" Alberta oil would be blended with "sweeter" oil from the Bakken oilfield, making it much easier to refine into cleaner fuel.

There was a BUNCH of resistance to the Keystone XL, due to it passing through the Nebraska Sandhills, which are above the Niobrara Aquifer, which produces a LOT of grain for the U.S. If the XL pipeline leaked it would cause major problems.

But the XL would be only a minor part of the Keystone pipeline system--which wouldn't affect the world price of oil more than (maybe) a few cents.

It's the Ogallala aquifer, Keystone XL would likely have been built had Trans Canada chosen a different route and went around the aquifer instead of through it.

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

Keystone was going to provide an on ramp for Bakken Sweet Crude to start flowing. Harping about dirty Canada crude and opposing Keystone just plays into the libtard tree hugger green new deal idiot mentality,

Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

No, that oil is STILL being moved. It’s moved by rail and trucks all owned by Warren Buffet who pays politicians to fix things in his favor; especially Democrats. It’s a lot more expensive and certainly a lot greater risk to the environment to do it that way. Look up Megantic QC for an example of why a pipeline is far safer.

The Megantic QC disaster was due to a series of errors made by the railroad that was hauling the tank cars. The train derailed because it had been improperly parked for the night and got underway without any crew on board. It seems unlikely that a Class A railroad like BNSF would duplicate that scenario. I'm sure that it is more expensive to move unrefined product by rail and equally sure that when Warren Buffet speaks people listen to him and are likely to try and please him.

Originally Posted by GAGoober

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

Keystone was going to provide an on ramp for Bakken Sweet Crude to start flowing. Harping about dirty Canada crude and opposing Keystone just plays into the libtard tree hugger green new deal idiot mentality,

Look at the map of the Keystone XL pipeline. A pipeline could be built from western ND entirely within ND to intersect with the existing Keysone pipeline. It would be much shorter and would avoid crossing SD and NE a second time.

Originally Posted by IndyCA35

Originally Posted by VarmintGuy

This is an absolutely RIGHT ON article by Victor Davis Hanson. Pointing out the sad realities that are occurring today.

LINK: https://townhall.com/columnists/vic...y-wanted-to-destroy-the-us-then-n2616602

I fear for the future of this country.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Victor Davis Hanson is pretty smart.

Always a good read from him.

It is a good article and spot on. The pipeline is only a small part of our crisis. Their aim is to destroy America as it was founded and they’re getting away with it.

Off topic, but in answer to the title.

I would,
incentivise people to be parasites.

Destroy, pride in the nation.

Instigate conflict between races, economic levels, police and citizens...

Destroy traditional moral values. Both social and personal.

Create turbulence in the economy. Instability in markets, inflation, food/fuel supplies. The supply chain in general.

Create policies to take as much self sufficiency as possible out of the
peoples hands. Create situations where the government is where they
turn for needed things. Make them see the government as "Father".
Creating a situation where working people are sucking the teat just
like the parasites.

Push government control as far as possible. Force shut downs of everything from churches to bars, employers to theme parks.

Destroy schools. The teaching of real history. Teach a false history designed to bend the minds of children to accept the coming changes
You wish to inflict.

As you cause inflation(deflating monetary value) create a desire to destroy
"Real/fiat" currency in exchange for a central digital one. Immediately taking away the power people can have in private transactions. Taking away the freedom of having money on hand.

Just a few, randomly thought up.
They would be a fantastic start.

Gotta add,

Put totally incompetent mentally challenged people in key position leading critical departments.

Infect the military with as many freak groups and unstable people as possible.

Originally Posted by Dillonbuck

Off topic, but in answer to the title.

I would,
incentivise people to be parasites.

Destroy, pride in the nation.

Instigate conflict between races, economic levels, police and citizens...

Destroy traditional moral values. Both social and personal.

Create turbulence in the economy. Instability in markets, inflation, food/fuel supplies. The supply chain in general.

Create policies to take as much self sufficiency as possible out of the
peoples hands. Create situations where the government is where they
turn for needed things. Make them see the government as "Father".
Creating a situation where working people are sucking the teat just
like the parasites.

Push government control as far as possible. Force shut downs of everything from churches to bars, employers to theme parks.

Destroy schools. The teaching of real history. Teach a false history designed to bend the minds of children to accept the coming changes
You wish to inflict.

As you cause inflation(deflating monetary value) create a desire to destroy
"Real/fiat" currency in exchange for a central digital one. Immediately taking away the power people can have in private transactions. Taking away the freedom of having money on hand.

Just a few, randomly thought up.
They would be a fantastic start.

Gotta add,

Put totally incompetent mentally challenged people in key position leading critical departments.

Infect the military with as many freak groups and unstable people as possible.

Well said.

Obviously the people making the decisions are not stupid but most of our puppet politicians that they buy are stupid and self serving.

Coming from LBJ the most corrupt, murderous politician there ever was you expected anything good to result from the "Great Society" ? How foolish of you !

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

You have zero clue what your talking about. Sounds like the crap CNN says.
Many refineries are refining tar sands crude right now. Including 3 of them in Billings, MT.

Eleven. Demonize religion. Redefine faithful believers as a bigoted, hateful voting block. Demonstrate to everybody what happens if you decline to bake a cake. Destroy society by disemboweling the nuclear family and blaming religion for acknowledging such a useless, outdated structure should even exist. Align the religious values which build this country as having hateful, anti-LGBTQ+, anti-everything underpinnings. Destroy life by legalizing abortion and condemning those who oppose evil destruction of life. And, once all that's done, start destroying life before your days are over by convincing you the "ethical" thing to do is remove your burdensome self. Create a new global cult aligned with Mother Earth and call it global climate change. Apply maximum penalties to all non-believers by eliminating their financial existence.

Paul Harvey had it right years ago.

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

You should probably learn how world markets work, and about supply and demand.

Originally Posted by BWalker

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

You have zero clue what your talking about. Sounds like the crap CNN says.
Many refineries are refining tar sands crude right now. Including 3 of them in Billings, MT.

If you say so.

Originally Posted by Dillonbuck

Off topic, but in answer to the title.

I would,
incentivise people to be parasites.

Destroy, pride in the nation.

Instigate conflict between races, economic levels, police and citizens...

Destroy traditional moral values. Both social and personal.

Create turbulence in the economy. Instability in markets, inflation, food/fuel supplies. The supply chain in general.

Create policies to take as much self sufficiency as possible out of the
peoples hands. Create situations where the government is where they
turn for needed things. Make them see the government as "Father".
Creating a situation where working people are sucking the teat just
like the parasites.

Push government control as far as possible. Force shut downs of everything from churches to bars, employers to theme parks.

Destroy schools. The teaching of real history. Teach a false history designed to bend the minds of children to accept the coming changes
You wish to inflict.

As you cause inflation(deflating monetary value) create a desire to destroy
"Real/fiat" currency in exchange for a central digital one. Immediately taking away the power people can have in private transactions. Taking away the freedom of having money on hand.

Just a few, randomly thought up.
They would be a fantastic start.

Gotta add,

Put totally incompetent mentally challenged people in key position leading critical departments.

Infect the military with as many freak groups and unstable people as possible.

IOW, you'd be a dimocrap.

Originally Posted by VarmintGuy

This is an absolutely RIGHT ON article by Victor Davis Hanson. Pointing out the sad realities that are occurring today.

LINK: https://townhall.com/columnists/vic...y-wanted-to-destroy-the-us-then-n2616602

I fear for the future of this country.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Victor Davis Hanson, comes up with brilliant analyses on every topic he covers, really enjoy listening to him!

When Victor talks, people should listen. I have been a fan for years.

Originally Posted by Esox357

Until the corrupt officials are gone, this is what will continue.

Every one voted in BECOMES corrupt in a very, very short time...

I've said it from the beginning of Biden's presidency. Every single thing they've done is to destroy this once great nation.

Prove me wrong. You can't.

Originally Posted by Esox357

Until the corrupt officials Jews are gone, this is what will continue.

FTFY

Houston 2: I agree - I always look forward to reading VDH articles and watching him when he is on TV.
Guy is sharp and has an amazing grasp on all things evil in the form of demonrats and anti-Americans!
I hope he keeps up the good work.
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VarmintGuy

If I really wanted to destroy the US, I’d start by voting Democrat.

Originally Posted by BWalker

Originally Posted by 260Remguy

The Keystone pipeline was going to move tar sand bitumen, a very dirt crude product that requires more extensive refining than common crude product. Once refined at a higher cost and with a greater potential for a negative environmental impact it was going to be exported out of the U.S., not added to the domestic supply. IOW, the Keystone Pipeline would add nothing of value to the U.S. market.

I would support the Keystone Pipeline if the tar sand was refined in Canada and only refined product flowed through it.

You have zero clue what your talking about. Sounds like the crap CNN says.
Many refineries are refining tar sands crude right now. Including 3 of them in Billings, MT.

Keystone pipeline shut down due to a leak of 14,000 barrels in Washington County Kansas.

Originally Posted by rainshot

It is a good article and spot on. The pipeline is only a small part of our crisis. Their aim is to destroy America as it was founded and they’re getting away with it.

The WEF and the EU are pulling the strings. They want to make America into the leftist $hithole Europe is now. We need to thank Elon Musk for buying Twitter and releasing the email files. Too bad he did not do this before the Midterms. We conservatives need to be prepared for the 2024 elections. Stolen elections have consequences. The democRATs know it well and they have the cheating down to a fine science. VD Hanson laid it out what the political left is doing. The question is, what is the political right going to do about it ?

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