My daughter got an intact 18 month old male Corgi that has not been neutered. We don't plan to breed it. Should we have him neutered? Pros/cons?

I seem to recall reading somewhere in the past that neutering a male dog can really mess with their emotional health. I damn sure know it would mess MINE up! 😄

yes

yes vote

Yes.

Since that breed isn't valued for their impressive musculature, it's no big deal neutering one. If it were a male Boxer, or Am Staff, or something along those lines, you can expect to reduce the hardness of their physique. This is minimized a bit by waiting till they are three, but even then, they will lose some muscle weight afterwards. With a Corgi, it's not an issue.

As for personality, it will calm them down a bit, and if they are constantly trying to hump your leg or your female dogs, this issue will be reduced dramatically, although it may not disappear completely.

No other down sides that I know of.

Yes

Definitely yes. It'll take care of many potential problems.

Since you asked, should we cut your balls off?

YES, neuter him

not remotely true. Ive neutered all of my male hunting dogs around 18 to 20 months not one lost an ounce of muscle weight . In fact as they aged a bit more with more workouts, training they gained some weight

Yes

SNIP SNIP Have one getting it done next month. Only issues we've had is most dogs we've had tend to put on weight.

After they have reached their growth potential, yes. But not before. They need their hormones to develop correctly.

At 18-24 months he should be good to go.

It probably would have saved me a lot of heartache and trouble over the years if I'd had it done when I was about 15 years old. 😏

Let him bang the neighbor’s miniature collie first… That would prolly be a sweet piece of ass for a corgie

I'd like my 1.5 year old standard poodle to crack one off in a hot bitch before we neuter him.

It's the least I can do.

It messes up their hormones.

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what hormones does it affect? specifically after 18 months?

what about testicular cancer?

One of the reasons I bought a male Lab some years ago was because my Previous was a bit uncomfortable about staying alone while I was working nights. We kept him intact to preserve his “edge” as a protector, not that Labs are generally known for being great security dogs. He was never allowed to roam and and never had “issue”, nor gave us any trouble by being aggressive, ever. He’s long gone, as is the Previous.

Once while I was walking him at the local ballfield, a lady came over to pet him. She was pleasant enough, but then asked me in a very annoying tone, “And WHY hasn’t he been neutered?”, like it was any of her fugging business. I replied, “He and I discussed this and he said that if I let him keep his testicles, he’d let me keep mine”.

I have a Springer that had a beautiful coat. Now has some funky hair as a result. All in all, I would say do it.

No getting around it, male dogs make better pets and companions if they are neutered. When intact, the testosterone drives them nutty.

Don't you hate that [bleep]? Vets are now indoctrinated to constantly push for it, too.

After neutering our puggle our vet recommended putting him on half rations. I modified this by giving him full ration in the morning and half ration in the evening when he's be less active than during the day. He maintained a healthy weight with no gain thereafter with no ill effects.

Typical Leftist BS. They think they know everything, and that everyone should do their bidding.

My dog had quite a set of doodads, and I always found it funny when strangers would assume he was a female.

“Take another look, Lady!”

Growth hormones for one.

so what is the specific result? Why do all vets and very experienced breeders( the ones I've dealt with) suggest neutering or spaying after maturing?

All the vets and experienced breeders you have dealt with? That doesn't mean they are right. I have had a lot of dogs over a 60 year span, mostly males and I have never had a dog develop testicular cancer.

I know of a very well known Bull Mastiff breeder that has a lifetime warranty on his dogs. He is very specific on what to feed them, exercise regimens etc etc. He will void the warranty if they are spayed or neutered. He recommends if it has to be done to do it after they are fully mature which takes a Mastiff 3 1/2 years or so.

I’ve neutered a bunch and have had the vet neuter some to and haven’t had anything but positive results.

Years ago my grandpa had fox hounds along with several others and they would all get together and hunt. One day my grandpa and uncle was over at another fox hunters house and they were talking dogs and my grandpa asked what about this one dog and the guy said that was another guys hound that lived a couple miles away and he was tired of it hanging around there and he told my grandpa and uncle he would cut it if they would hold it so they held it for the guy and this guy neuters the dog but doesn’t do it right and just cuts the whole bag off slick. They let go of the dog and it takes off for home. The next Saturday my uncle and grandpa was over at the cut dogs owners house and they was talking hounds and they ask about this particular dog that they helped cut the week before and the guy said I don’t know what’s wrong with that dog all he wants to do is lay around and lick his nuts. They couldn’t hardly keep from laughing, they said that dog took a couple months to heal up but went back to running and was just as good of a dog as he was before his whole bag got cut off!!!

I don’t know why the vets say spay or neuter but I know why the experienced breeders want you to, it’s because they don’t want the competition. Most want to sell you a registered dog but won’t let you have the papers with it because you will want to raise a litter of pups down the road and cut in on their completion.

I don’t even understand why this is a conversation these days. Same as the fuqqing idiots who dump litters of kittens at farms, assuming the farmer wants them. Most get shot.

AFA breeders and competition, here in Canada it’s illegal for a breeder to sell a dog as “purebred” if they don’t supply the papers. Federal law. I wouldn’t be surprised that it’s the same in the US.

A lot of vets will push for spaying and neutering at to young of an age IMO. I think they do it partly for the money and partially to prevent unwanted kittens and puppies due to someone waiting until a more appropriate age to have it done and the animal reproducing. Some dogs, especially bigger breeds IMO spayed/neutered at the very young ages some vets recommend don’t seem to fully develop.

It’s worth having a fully adult dog neutered to avoid the humping and tendency to stray IMO.

Not. I've had lots of dogs. The boys keeping their nuts has NEVER been a problem.

Ask the dog.

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I know the whpg breeders I know want tp protect their genetics of the breed and don't want a bunch of back yard goobers destroying the breed and the genetics to make a buck

both my whpg have lifetime guarantees too breeder suggested getting fixed if not breeding after they matured if I did not breed them and he has been breeding over this breed over 40 years. ill take his word and my vet who breeds hunting dogs




all of the grills

I would.

I don't need a set of nuts on my dog to make me a man.
Some, seem to!

Didn't want our Boxer neutered, hoped to let him enjoy making us a few $$.
One day, he decided to mark my wife as "HIS".

Pissed right on her!😂😂😂😂😂

She took it ok.

Couple days later she was taking clothes off the line and folding them.
He ran up and pissed in the basket!

She took the clothes back to the washer and called the vet.

He wouldn't cut a Boxer until it was a year.
Dillon got cut at 13 months.
A big Boxer, he never got as muscular as he could have.
70# now, but built more like a female.

My manhood isn't dependant on my dog, so that's no big deal.
He is 11 and in great shape, some gray and not as peppy, but otherwise
no different than 5 years ago.

Losing his nuts hasn't hurt him at all.

I’ve had two male dogs, an old English sheepdog and a little rat terrier/chihuahua mutt, neither were neutered, no problems, both lived 13+ years.

One of my present mutts, an adopted stray, still has his set. Two years now and no problems with him either. He does try to hump every dog of either persuasion that will hold still long enough in the dog park but hey, what happens in the dog park stays in the dog park.

We don’t go to those places much anyway.

Interestingly enough our vet advised us to wait 18-24 months before we neutered our Lab. Jaeger is 4 now and our vet still hasn’t pushed to have him neutered. Never says a word other than how healthy is.

Try shooting it first.

But if that doesn’t work, yeah. Have it neutered.

I’m a “no” vote.

All my dogs are intact. In my breed, neutering comes with serious health issues, primarily weight gain and lack of energy/drive, which in turn results in numerous health problems and shortened life spans. Many females develop spay related incontinence.

Once neutered, the dog’s coat loses its ability to self clean and becomes much longer as well, resulting in a smelly, greasy long haired dog that needs frequent bathing.

I understand many people won’t deal with an intact dog. Nevertheless, if the question is “what’s best for the dog”, in my opinion that is to be kept intact.

Remove a key component of a dog’s endocrine system? Why not? All most people do with their dogs is trip over them and clean up after them anyway.

There are exceptions to every rule.

You hit that one out of the park pappy. At 67 it's been my experience that females are nervous about males be they 2 or 4 legged that can fug anywhere anytime they get the chance. Keeping men on a leash are what women seem to be about these days..mb

Yes, unless you will enjoy watching the dog hump your daughter's leg or lick his nuts. It is BS that it gives them an edge as a protector. Every dog I have had for over 50 years has been spayed or neutered. Every one has been very protective. Sometimes overly. Male or female. Especially for my wife. Our present one, a lab cross from a rescue, would die for her and no one can touch my wife. Even I have to be careful not to surprise the dog. If it is just me and the dog, it is every man for himself.

I am not an animal rights activist or left liberal, but go down to a pound some day and see how many dogs they put to sleep each week because an irresponsible pet owner didn't want spay or neuter their dog. Responsible breeders excluded.

My ex SIL had a tom cat that she found as a kitten. She had him neutered and he put on a ton of weight and slept 18 hours a day.

This!
I have had boxers and English bull dogs in the past. Had two litters from each. Always told the new owners to wait at least a year. 2 be better.
At least one heat for the females and wait to get closer to the second one if you must fix her that soon.
The dogs need their hormones to develop properly.
Ones who have waited their dogs looked great.
The ones who believed their vet, their dog didn’t look the same and had health issues and structure wasn’t the same.

Bingo.


Plus...corgies are ássholes.

Find out how they identify.

Get him a nut job, he'll be a much better dog for you.

You say that you don't plan to breed it, but all male dogs have their own plans. Neuter him.

If you don't own intact females and keep your dog under control (as all dog owners should) his plans don't mean sh.it

Just say NO unless your mutt develops traits you find undesirable then decide.

I've got a 5 yo lab and I've put it off, he's seems to be just fine, our gsp girl is fixed and he'll ride her on occasion but I cant stand her anyway, he can have at it. I do have a friend who'll bring his daughters over on occasion, I do have to be watchful when they are around. My last lab lived 10 years with his balls intact, my vet though says you'll get a few more if you take them out...

Old county I lived in it was actually mandatory for you to have your dog fixed.

I agree with this. No reason to do it if you keep your dog under control, and he's not showing problematic behavior (or having medical problems) associated with high testosterone.

That's the way I've always done it. My male Doberman (gone since 2001) kept his till he was middle aged and started pissing blood. Vet said it was the high testosterone that was causing it, and it could lead to serious issues if he wasn't neutered, so I agreed.

My Pitbull (gone since 2011) kept his for about three years. Fixed male dogs would see him and attack him for no apparent reason. Vet said it was because he was intact, and they could smell it. He said fixing him would solve the issue. It didn't.

My Old English Bulldog (now middle aged) kept his till he was three. I finally agreed to have it done due to his constant obsession with humping my female half Pitbull (now 12.5 years old). It was making life miserable for her. His harassment of her went way down afterwards, even though he still occasionally tries to mount her. Not nearly as much, though.

Most of the guys say 2 years and then decide because it changes how the dog grows…
** City dogs have long legs because they are clipped young and instead of muscle it goes to bones… pretty wild.


I do agree with the behavior thing - but if you have female / male dogs that also comes into play

One area of dog ownership that I feel really benefits is the rural "yard dog". Males that are snipped don't roam and/or fight nearly as much. Ones that are fenced aren't as prone to digging out either.

By far, the majority are saying "yes". It seems like most are saying that based on the behavior effects with not much mention of it being done for long term health reasons?

My last lab was intact his whole 15 yrs of life. He was calm and I never saw him hump anything other than an in-heat female. Current dog (german shorthair) just turned 3 and is still intact. Very well behaved dog. He's got is own blanket that he drags around the house and rolls up in. Every so often, he rolls it up in the middle of the living room floor and goes to town with it for us all to watch.

He is a fantastic dog (one of the best I've ever had), so we are keeping him intact with the hopes of breeding him one day so we can keep one of his offspring.

Not...
Let the damn neighbors have their mutts fixed.

I wasn't going to fix my Pitbull (gone since summer of 2011), because the only behavior being intact caused was his habit of humping his bed. Apart from that, he was about as good a dog as anyone could hope for.

The vet talked me into it eventually by telling me that it would make fixed male dogs less likely to attack him, which was a problem I was having. As I said earlier, that actually didn't work. They still attacked him.

I think he was attacked so often because of how he held himself rather than because he smelled of testosterone. When a dominant male would come by, he'd usually expect other male dogs to expose their bellies and wag their tails, and that would prevent being attacked. My dog held his head high, and ignored dominant dogs that came over to him, which seemed to enrage them into attacking him. So there was no reason at all to have had him fixed. Wasted pain and money.

I would.

Again the anthropomorphism rears its head.

Unless your going to breed them there is no reason not to. When to do it is a moving dot, hopefully you’ve a good vet that stays current.

There’s a ton of dogs out there looking for homes because some cünt thought they’d recoup the money they spent on FiFi by selling puppies. No X-rays, or bloodwork. It’s literally destroying breeds. Lots of other dogs looking for homes because another piece of shît was too lazy to have it done, or too broke to pay for it. Like kids, if you can’t afford them don’t have them. That includes medical care and feed.

I love dogs, like really love dogs. But I’ve no problem blowing the brains out of them that deserve it. Whether through their own actions, or the shîtbirds that are responsible for them.

Have a 110 pound Rotty. At about 2 y.o. he began to get a little unruly. Not mean or vicious, just hard headed.
.....and when your best friends come over and your 110 pound Rotty begins leg humping your buddy's 95 pound wife 😖, it's time to take action.

Took about 6 to 8 months to come full circle and the drive to drop off, but he's much calmer now and is much more obedient! .....and the neighbor's wife isn't concerned about getting raped when she comes over!

yes yes yes