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Posted By: kappa8 One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Climate hoaxsters coming after our food. They also love referencing UN-backed study which lambasted beef.

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The keto diet — which counts Gwyneth Paltrow, Halle Berry and Kim Kardashian as celebrity devotees — prioritizes high amounts of fat and low amounts of carbs. The diet was estimated to generate around 6.6 pounds of carbon dioxide for every 1,000 calories consumed.

Why keto & paleo are bad for you...and the world

Ribeye sounds good tonight laugh
Posted By: kelbro Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Lost 10 pounds on keto and my dikk is now one inch longer. It's all good!
How does the Keto diet differ from the Atkins Diet?
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
How does the Keto diet differ from the Atkins Diet?


Nutshell, not much
Having lost the remaining shreds of faith in the pharma/medical/profit industry over the last 3 years...I wonder now about the most prescribed drug group in the world...statins. If all the claims are true...the keto, Atkins, South Beach folks should have been dead long ago. WTH?
I live low carb.
It saved my life.
At 62, I'm in better shape than the 20 year old idiots I work with...🤣


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Posted By: Angus55 Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
I lost 80 pounds on keto in 4 to 6 months, and only gained 20 back in two years of being keto daily, I eat as much as I ever have, great way to stay in shape when you’re old.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
How does the Keto diet differ from the Atkins Diet?

A true Keto diet is Atkins on steroids, but less prescribed and with extended fast. Atkins will tell you eat this many eggs and this much bacon, where Keto says hit these macro's, i.e. this many calories, with this composition of proteins, fat, and carbohydrates. It involves intentionally putting your body into a state of ketosis. Think of it as an extended fast where you body operates for several weeks off of your stored fat supplies. Over all, it's a high protein, moderate fat, very low carb diet with extended fasts that leads to rapid weight loss.

Do it right, and it really works. I've put myself into ketosis a few times. Last time I lost about 12 pounds in two weeks.
Posted By: kenjs1 Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
if only beer.....
Is that the diet where ya just sit around and shove wadded up slices of oscar Meyer bologna down your piehole all day?
Originally Posted by kenjs1
if only beer.....

Lite beer only has 5 carbs per serving.
Hard liquor has zero.
Posted By: Calvin Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Originally Posted by slumlord
Is that the diet where ya just sit around and shove wadded up slices of oscar Meyer bologna down your piehole all day?

Pretty much.

If you have the money/access for good meat it’s a good diet. Eating processed stuff ain’t.
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
How does the Keto diet differ from the Atkins Diet?


Nutshell, not much

The most important thing is to eat simple one ingredient foods. Stay away from processed foods even if it is Atkins brand or has Keto on it. Mostly meet, eggs, Cheese, very few greens, a couple of blueberries, and pecans roasted in butter.

Been on this lifestyle for one year. Down about 35 pounds of fat and have added muscle.

Screw the bastards on the environmental bs, it is just about control, They do not want to have to contend with healthy people, it is easier to control sickly ones.
Posted By: RHClark Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
It's how I lost all my weight nearly 5 years ago. In 2 years, I dropped from 360 lbs. to 170 lbs. at age 50. I ate all I ever wanted. I was never hungry and after about a month I never felt tired like I would before if I went without eating. At first I ate 3 meals a day but got to IM fasting and eventually reduced to a 2 hour window where I eat every 24 hours. I usually eat around 4pm and stop about 6pm. I naturally reduced how much I ate as I got smaller, but I was never hungry. I had zero sugar, bread, pasta potatoes or rice, and even alcohol for about 2 years.

I cheat a little bit now but If I do I'll even it out with a couple very light eating days or a 48 hour fast. I'm into the fasting thing. I think it does your body better than anything after you get adapted, so you don't have blood sugar issues. When I was big, I couldn't go very long without eating because I had such blood sugar swings. I worked into it a few hours at a time over weeks and I have no weak or hungry effects on a 48 hour fast now. That's just normal work activity. I wouldn't recommend a fast if you are increasing activity. I've tried it and had bad results after 48 hours and 35 miles of cycling. I bonked a little and had to eat and lay down for about 2 hours before I felt human again.
Posted By: Dutch Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
It took me a while to understand it, but it really comes down to the fact that the "medical establishment" has had EVERYTHING about health and nutrition backwards.

Weight is not the problem, weight is the SYMPTOM of the problem. If you are becoming insulin resistant, you will put on weight.

Conversely, LOSING THE WEIGHT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!!!

By eating well, you solve the problem of malnutrition, and the symptoms (weight, high blood pressure, cholesterol, arthritis, IBS, you name it) go away.

We aren't built to eat high carb, processed foods. We're built to eat simple animal based foods and some greens and vegetables. Up until only 10,000 years ago, most humans did not even have the ABILITY to digest starches.
Originally Posted by Dutch
It took me a while to understand it, but it really comes down to the fact that the "medical establishment" has had EVERYTHING about health and nutrition backwards.

Weight is not the problem, weight is the SYMPTOM of the problem. If you are becoming insulin resistant, you will put on weight.

Conversely, LOSING THE WEIGHT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!!!

By eating well, you solve the problem of malnutrition, and the symptoms (weight, high blood pressure, cholesterol, arthritis, IBS, you name it) go away.

We aren't built to eat high carb, processed foods. We're built to eat simple animal based foods and some greens and vegetables. Up until only 10,000 years ago, most humans did not even have the ABILITY to digest starches.

The standard they use is the USDA.
Originally Posted by Dutch
It took me a while to understand it, but it really comes down to the fact that the "medical establishment" has had EVERYTHING about health and nutrition backwards. INTENTIONALLY, FOR PROFIT. Rake in billions making you sick with "food" then pile up more billions "treating" your chronic illness.

Weight is not the problem, weight is the SYMPTOM of the problem. If you are becoming insulin resistant, you will put on weight.

Conversely, LOSING THE WEIGHT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!!!

By eating well, you solve the problem of malnutrition, and the symptoms (weight, high blood pressure, cholesterol, arthritis, IBS, you name it) go away.

We aren't built to eat high carb, processed foods. We're built to eat simple animal based foods and some greens and vegetables. Up until only 10,000 years ago, most humans did not even have the ABILITY to digest starches.

Fixed it.
Posted By: ribka Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by slumlord
Is that the diet where ya just sit around and shove wadded up slices of oscar Meyer bologna down your piehole all day?

Pretty much.

If you have the money/access for good meat it’s a good diet. Eating processed stuff ain’t.


you can shoot a few deer, an elk and a bear, waterfowl , upland, rabbits a year too
Posted By: ribka Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Originally Posted by Dutch
It took me a while to understand it, but it really comes down to the fact that the "medical establishment" has had EVERYTHING about health and nutrition backwards.

Weight is not the problem, weight is the SYMPTOM of the problem. If you are becoming insulin resistant, you will put on weight.

Conversely, LOSING THE WEIGHT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!!!

By eating well, you solve the problem of malnutrition, and the symptoms (weight, high blood pressure, cholesterol, arthritis, IBS, you name it) go away.

We aren't built to eat high carb, processed foods. We're built to eat simple animal based foods and some greens and vegetables. Up until only 10,000 years ago, most humans did not even have the ABILITY to digest starches.


yep. We have a sugar, corn and wheat and soy based diet now in the US. and the eat many meals or snacks a day ( grazing) doesn't help
Originally Posted by Salmonella
Originally Posted by Dutch
It took me a while to understand it, but it really comes down to the fact that the "medical establishment" has had EVERYTHING about health and nutrition backwards.

Weight is not the problem, weight is the SYMPTOM of the problem. If you are becoming insulin resistant, you will put on weight.

Conversely, LOSING THE WEIGHT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM!!!!!

By eating well, you solve the problem of malnutrition, and the symptoms (weight, high blood pressure, cholesterol, arthritis, IBS, you name it) go away.

We aren't built to eat high carb, processed foods. We're built to eat simple animal based foods and some greens and vegetables. Up until only 10,000 years ago, most humans did not even have the ABILITY to digest starches.

The standard the use is the USDA.

The Food Pyramid, the foundation of which was General Mills, et al. I wonder which former big ag execs were in the USDA back in the day.
Originally Posted by slumlord
Is that the diet where ya just sit around and shove wadded up slices of oscar Meyer bologna down your piehole all day?



😂

I know a guy who is all in on this diet. He buys McDonald’s cheeseburgers by the dozen, ditches the bread, and says he’s dieting

Lol
Posted By: RHClark Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by slumlord
Is that the diet where ya just sit around and shove wadded up slices of oscar Meyer bologna down your piehole all day?



😂

I know a guy who is all in on this diet. He buys McDonald’s cheeseburgers by the dozen, ditches the bread, and says he’s dieting

Lol

He may be. See how it goes for a few months. You can't get around that what you eat is what you are going to be made of. You just can't build a good body with crap materials. His diet so far may be an improvement over the same with bread fries, and milkshake. Maybe he will figure it out.
Originally Posted by RHClark
It's how I lost all my weight nearly 5 years ago. In 2 years, I dropped from 360 lbs. to 170 lbs. at age 50. I ate all I ever wanted. I was never hungry and after about a month I never felt tired like I would before if I went without eating. At first I ate 3 meals a day but got to IM fasting and eventually reduced to a 2 hour window where I eat every 24 hours. I usually eat around 4pm and stop about 6pm. I naturally reduced how much I ate as I got smaller, but I was never hungry. I had zero sugar, bread, pasta potatoes or rice, and even alcohol for about 2 years.

I cheat a little bit now but If I do I'll even it out with a couple very light eating days or a 48 hour fast. I'm into the fasting thing. I think it does your body better than anything after you get adapted, so you don't have blood sugar issues. When I was big, I couldn't go very long without eating because I had such blood sugar swings. I worked into it a few hours at a time over weeks and I have no weak or hungry effects on a 48 hour fast now. That's just normal work activity. I wouldn't recommend a fast if you are increasing activity. I've tried it and had bad results after 48 hours and 35 miles of cycling. I bonked a little and had to eat and lay down for about 2 hours before I felt human again.

Yes, yes and yes..

I dropped 70 lbs in 3 months.
Most people simply don't have the willpower.
Originally Posted by Salmonella
Originally Posted by kenjs1
if only beer.....

Lite beer only has 5 carbs per serving.
Hard liquor has zero.


Yup. One thing I discovered while wandering off the low-carb path now and again, is that my rum has exactly zero effect on my results, with the possible exception of it temporarily interfering with the fat burning while it’s stoking the furnace. Trick is to stop drinking earlier in the evening.
Posted By: IA_fog Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Originally Posted by Salmonella
Originally Posted by kenjs1
if only beer.....

Lite beer only has 5 carbs per serving.
Hard liquor has zero.

Did ketp and quit beer started mixing whiskey with water and wow keto works
Low carbs makes me feel better too no fried food except bacon and wings
No bread
Now this new bud light next has my attention as an alternate to whiskey even though I love whiskey
Gotta search the. Some have a few sugars though
Posted By: RJY66 Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
How does the Keto diet differ from the Atkins Diet?


Nutshell, not much

A Keto diet is Atkins phase one all the time which restricts you to 20 grams or less of total carbs a day, which should put most anyone into ketosis unless their metabolism is really jacked up. In his plan, I think you only do this for a short period and then begin adding carbs back in "phases", until your weight loss stops.....in an attempt to figure out how much of a carb load your body can handle.
Originally Posted by kappa8
Climate hoaxsters coming after our food. They also love referencing UN-backed study which lambasted beef.

Quote
The keto diet — which counts Gwyneth Paltrow, Halle Berry and Kim Kardashian as celebrity devotees — prioritizes high amounts of fat and low amounts of carbs. The diet was estimated to generate around 6.6 pounds of carbon dioxide for every 1,000 calories consumed.

Why keto & paleo are bad for you...and the world

Ribeye sounds good tonight laugh

6.6 pounds of carbon dioxide? I can't even fathom how stupid you would have to be to believe that was true. Maybe per thousand pounds of meat but even then it's a stretch but for 1000 calories? WTH
Originally Posted by RJY66
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
How does the Keto diet differ from the Atkins Diet?


Nutshell, not much

A Keto diet is Atkins phase one all the time which restricts you to 20 grams or less of total carbs a day, which should put most anyone into ketosis unless their metabolism is really jacked up. In his plan, I think you only do this for a short period and then begin adding carbs back in "phases", until your weight loss stops.....in an attempt to figure out how much of a carb load your body can handle.

Yep, wife tried both, son and dil both like keto, so more of an observer. Personally I don’t have a problem losing weight, dropped 20 pounds just by restricting my breakfast to 2 hard boiled eggs and 2 slices of toast instead of a full breakfast, lunch was a light snack and then supper as usual.
Originally Posted by Salmonella
Originally Posted by kenjs1
if only beer.....

Lite beer only has 5 carbs per serving.
Hard liquor has zero.

Another great reason to go Keto.
Originally Posted by Old Ornery
Originally Posted by Salmonella
Originally Posted by kenjs1
if only beer.....

Lite beer only has 5 carbs per serving.
Hard liquor has zero.

Another great reason to go Keto.
So whiskey is ok on keto? Sign me the fugg up
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Having lost the remaining shreds of faith in the pharma/medical/profit industry over the last 3 years...I wonder now about the most prescribed drug group in the world...statins. If all the claims are true...the keto, Atkins, South Beach folks should have been dead long ago. WTH?


Your assumption that high fat, high protein, low to no carb diets increase serum lipids is incorrect (for about 85% of the population. The opposite occurs. When you stop eating bread, sugar, simple processed starches and cornsyrup, lipids typically improve.
Posted By: Dutch Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Having lost the remaining shreds of faith in the pharma/medical/profit industry over the last 3 years...I wonder now about the most prescribed drug group in the world...statins. If all the claims are true...the keto, Atkins, South Beach folks should have been dead long ago. WTH?


Your assumption that high fat, high protein, low to no carb diets increase serum lipids is incorrect (for about 85% of the population. The opposite occurs. When you stop eating bread, sugar, simple processed starches and cornsyrup, lipids typically improve.

Mostly true, but triglycerides typically elevate slightly. Numbers are just numbers. What's relevant is levels of inflammation, arterial condition, mental acuity, recovery rates, stamina, etc, etc, etc.
Posted By: Clarkm Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
I am living in the keto bubble.

It got rid of my high blood pressure and beer belly.. but who cares?


THE WIFE IS BUILT LIKE A MOVIE STAR..



...I would not care if it killed me.
Posted By: MPat70 Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/02/23
Originally Posted by Salmonella
I live low carb.
It saved my life.
At 62, I'm in better shape than the 20 year old idiots I work with...🤣


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Moobs 😂😂😂

Seriously though, wish I looked that good.......
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
How does the Keto diet differ from the Atkins Diet?
keto guys stole it after Dr a died Imo... ... I just loss 50 lbs 7dec 22 to 4 feb23.... thank Dr Atkins...
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by Old Ornery
Originally Posted by Salmonella
Originally Posted by kenjs1
if only beer.....

Lite beer only has 5 carbs per serving.
Hard liquor has zero.

Another great reason to go Keto.
So whiskey is ok on keto? Sign me the fugg up
mic ultra 2.6 ...have a few with me !
Posted By: MPat70 Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/03/23
KillerBee is a keto fan. He does the "snake diet" of putting his body in ketosis. Lots of salty fluid only, no eating.

He says he has lost like 60lbs or so in a shot time......

Once (if) my current medical condition passes, I am going to give the Snake Diet a try.
Posted By: Clarkm Re: One more reason to go Keto - 03/03/23
Dr. Sean Baker just eats meat, and makes fun of guys like me who add broccoli to a meal.
Originally Posted by Clarkm
Dr. Sean Baker just eats meat, and makes fun of guys like me who add broccoli to a meal.
Chop that broccoli up 45 minutes b4 u eat or add mustard.....super food ..look it up !
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