Who is winning in Ukraine v Russia?

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

China

all the commoners are losing while the elite are getting richer.

All I know for sure is that we in the USA have lost over a hundred BILLION $$$ so far and have gained a lot of ill will as usual.

No one, Joe and the hoe keep pumping money into it to cover their corruption

Death at the moment.

Time will tell if it was worth it.

Banks, drug companies, the Clintons and Obama.

Russia is now sending female prisoners to fight in Ukraine.

I guess the Wagner Group needs a little help.

Lol

China

Death is winning, in this day and age this is the third World war and Biden is dancing around being it

I can't see what the Houston_2 corksucker said because she's on ignore, but i expect she said nothing more than would a typical POS dimocommie lying where.

Hey Houston_2, name us a DNC prediction which came true, please.

I posted an article from the Kyiv Independent today where they interviewed a guy who was in Bakhmut. Of the eight guys he went to the lines with, two were dead within minutes, two more got their arms blown off within an hour or two more, the remaining four were pulled out pretty quickly and the position was lost.

Oh, and the soldier being interviewed was 54.

You tell me who is winning.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Russia is now sending female prisoners to fight in Ukraine.

I guess the Wagner Group needs a little help.

Lol

Do you honestly believe that?

You’re statement fails any and all logical, common sense and critical thinking skills.

Originally Posted by Hastings

All I know for sure is that we in the USA have lost over a hundred BILLION $$$ so far and have gained a lot of ill will as usual.

There’s no arguing with that. Probably well over a hundred billion plus whatever it’s cost the economy in artificially high fuel prices that trickles down to everything else, while advancing China with cheap oil.

Joe's team needs a ww3 crisis to keep him in basement for 2024 run. So there's your answer.

The main Russian forces have only entered the conflict sporadically and Ukraine is being crushed.

It's old school warfare with modern weapons. Both factions are facing each other on a front. The Wagner group is the tip of the spear. When the Wagner group hits resistance that it can't handle alone, Russia sends forward troops that they're holding in reserve.

AZgeopolitics is about the best place I've found for information on the conflict. It frequently puts up maps which shows the line and the direction where Russian troops are advancing.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics

For Jag, what clam posted

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Russia is now sending female prisoners to fight in Ukraine.

I guess the Wagner Group needs a little help.

From the time Russia entered the Crimea 8 years ago, the plan was never to stop with Ukraine. Putin wants to re-establish the borders of the USSR. His incompetence in Ukraine makes it clear that will never happen. Militarily this is a disgrace for Russia. Overall, Russia is losing regardless of what happens to Ukraine as they will not be able to push past Ukraine, won't even conquer the country, and at the rate it's going, won't even be able to keep Crimea.

The biggest shock out of all of this, after the initial shock of Russian incompetence in prosecuting the war, is that Putin has been able to keep his stranglehold on power in Russia this long despite the catastrophic failures of his military in Ukraine. Three months in, I figured he was on the ropes and would be toppled at any time. A year in, there's no outward sign of that happening anytime soon.

It is a false analogy to making any comparison to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. That was a catastrophic blunder at the policy level. Our military did everything that was asked of it, and the actual withdrawal itself under those conditions was an incredible feat. The policy failure did embolden our enemies, although Putin began his push for Ukraine 9 years ago so I don't think it was much of a factor in the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian military though has been exposed and incompetent and poorly armed. The only threat is in whatever nuclear capabilities they have. I have no inside knowledge but suspect that NATO is constantly wargaming a lightening reaction to neuter those capabilities at warp speed if worse comes to worst.

Originally Posted by szihn

Banks, drug companies, the Clintons and Obama.

Clintons & obama eh,,

Originally Posted by blanket

No one, Joe and the hoe keep pumping money into it to cover their corruption

This.

Originally Posted by Whiptail

all the commoners are losing while the elite are getting richer.

This seems to be the way of the world.

Originally Posted by TimberRunner

Joe's team needs a ww3 crisis to keep him in basement for 2024 run. So there's your answer.

That tactic worked for FDR in 1944. He was too sick to attend the D convention. Of course the excuse was there was a war going on. He wasn't working at all the last several months and died in Georgia with an old girl friend. Probably wasn't a whole lot of screwing going on.

In a nutshell, Russia pushes forward until it hits stiff resistance, then it backs off and totally contaminates the area of resistance with artillery.

That's why all the scenes from Bahkmut shows the place blown all to pieces.

Ukraine doesn't have anywheres near enough artillery to counter.

Originally Posted by Hastings

All I know for sure is that we in the USA have lost over a hundred BILLION $$$ so far and have gained a lot of ill will as usual.

It's edging up to $200 billion, Washington D.C. needs a big firecracker popped over the Crapitol Dome to stop the madness.

This is where the line is today. It's a bit northwest of Bakhmut.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1636114204020162561/photo/1

https://www.youtube.com/live/5o2EiOcKsQE?feature=share&t=2116

My opinion, the difference will be, Russia has been preparing for this conflict since 2014 while the current U.S. leadership is playing everything day by day.

Men in the shadows are the only winners

Originally Posted by readonly

From the time Russia entered the Crimea 8 years ago, the plan was never to stop with Ukraine. Putin wants to re-establish the borders of the USSR. His incompetence in Ukraine makes it clear that will never happen. Militarily this is a disgrace for Russia. Overall, Russia is losing regardless of what happens to Ukraine as they will not be able to push past Ukraine, won't even conquer the country, and at the rate it's going, won't even be able to keep Crimea.

The biggest shock out of all of this, after the initial shock of Russian incompetence in prosecuting the war, is that Putin has been able to keep his stranglehold on power in Russia this long despite the catastrophic failures of his military in Ukraine. Three months in, I figured he was on the ropes and would be toppled at any time. A year in, there's no outward sign of that happening anytime soon.

It is a false analogy to making any comparison to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. That was a catastrophic blunder at the policy level. Our military did everything that was asked of it, and the actual withdrawal itself under those conditions was an incredible feat. The policy failure did embolden our enemies, although Putin began his push for Ukraine 9 years ago so I don't think it was much of a factor in the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian military though has been exposed and incompetent and poorly armed. The only threat is in whatever nuclear capabilities they have. I have no inside knowledge but suspect that NATO is constantly wargaming a lightening reaction to neuter those capabilities at warp speed if worse comes to worst.

Good post, a thinker is a rarity here.

There are no winners here, but as someone said, the elite will be no poorer because of it! If this continues, I believe the fighting age men and many women of Ukraine will be depleted beyond repair. Russia will continue to somehow send bodies in to die for the "motherland"!

Originally Posted by readonly

From the time Russia entered the Crimea 8 years ago, the plan was never to stop with Ukraine. Putin wants to re-establish the borders of the USSR. His incompetence in Ukraine makes it clear that will never happen. Militarily this is a disgrace for Russia. Overall, Russia is losing regardless of what happens to Ukraine as they will not be able to push past Ukraine, won't even conquer the country, and at the rate it's going, won't even be able to keep Crimea.

The biggest shock out of all of this, after the initial shock of Russian incompetence in prosecuting the war, is that Putin has been able to keep his stranglehold on power in Russia this long despite the catastrophic failures of his military in Ukraine. Three months in, I figured he was on the ropes and would be toppled at any time. A year in, there's no outward sign of that happening anytime soon.

It is a false analogy to making any comparison to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. That was a catastrophic blunder at the policy level. Our military did everything that was asked of it, and the actual withdrawal itself under those conditions was an incredible feat. The policy failure did embolden our enemies, although Putin began his push for Ukraine 9 years ago so I don't think it was much of a factor in the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian military though has been exposed and incompetent and poorly armed. The only threat is in whatever nuclear capabilities they have. I have no inside knowledge but suspect that NATO is constantly wargaming a lightening reaction to neuter those capabilities at warp speed if worse comes to worst.

"Whoever doesn't mourn the fall of the USSR has no heart, whoever wants it back has no brain" V.Putin direct quote.

Putin's main goal is a neutral Ukraine. Not a hostile enemy state supported by a Western cabal that wants to destroy it. Doubt the USA wants to destroy Russia? What has the 100 billion plus been for? To save Ukraine for democracy? I don't think so.

Nato "lightening" is probably being prepared and they will certainly bite off more than they can chew. Do you think the Russians are not well aware of this....the USA has not faced sophisticated air defenses in depth since WWII.

The Ukes have been shelling Russians in the Donbas for 9 years. Another goal of Putin is equal rights for Russians in Donbas which make up a third of the population there.

The Russians will move the border west so as to be out of range of theatre weapons, about 150 kilos. But if it means all the way to the Polish border, so be it as far as Putin is concerned.

Crimea has been Russian since 1776

Russia's initial push was typically viewed as incompetence but in truth their effort was to bring negotiations which worked until the USA compelled Uke to resist and ONLY hundreds of thousands have to die as a result.

The Russians have since seen the the light and will achieve their aims militarily but I do believe Bidet will get us into this.

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This

We are just the Muscle Evil ..

Go ahead Describe your Government..

The Evil wants Russia Resources..

The Evil will spend You into Poverty and use the Blood of Your Youth to get it ..

Ever talk to a Bowl of Pudd’n ..

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by readonly

From the time Russia entered the Crimea 8 years ago, the plan was never to stop with Ukraine. Putin wants to re-establish the borders of the USSR. His incompetence in Ukraine makes it clear that will never happen. Militarily this is a disgrace for Russia. Overall, Russia is losing regardless of what happens to Ukraine as they will not be able to push past Ukraine, won't even conquer the country, and at the rate it's going, won't even be able to keep Crimea.

The biggest shock out of all of this, after the initial shock of Russian incompetence in prosecuting the war, is that Putin has been able to keep his stranglehold on power in Russia this long despite the catastrophic failures of his military in Ukraine. Three months in, I figured he was on the ropes and would be toppled at any time. A year in, there's no outward sign of that happening anytime soon.

It is a false analogy to making any comparison to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. That was a catastrophic blunder at the policy level. Our military did everything that was asked of it, and the actual withdrawal itself under those conditions was an incredible feat. The policy failure did embolden our enemies, although Putin began his push for Ukraine 9 years ago so I don't think it was much of a factor in the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian military though has been exposed and incompetent and poorly armed. The only threat is in whatever nuclear capabilities they have. I have no inside knowledge but suspect that NATO is constantly wargaming a lightening reaction to neuter those capabilities at warp speed if worse comes to worst.

Good post, a thinker is a rarity here.

If by "thinking" you mean copying and pasting the State Dept. talking points, spot on.

Wow, you two joined the same year and your post counts are only one post apart. Crazy coincidence.

Originally Posted by readonly

From the time Russia entered the Crimea 8 years ago, the plan was never to stop with Ukraine. Putin wants to re-establish the borders of the USSR. His incompetence in Ukraine makes it clear that will never happen. Militarily this is a disgrace for Russia. Overall, Russia is losing regardless of what happens to Ukraine as they will not be able to push past Ukraine, won't even conquer the country, and at the rate it's going, won't even be able to keep Crimea.

The biggest shock out of all of this, after the initial shock of Russian incompetence in prosecuting the war, is that Putin has been able to keep his stranglehold on power in Russia this long despite the catastrophic failures of his military in Ukraine. Three months in, I figured he was on the ropes and would be toppled at any time. A year in, there's no outward sign of that happening anytime soon.

It is a false analogy to making any comparison to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. That was a catastrophic blunder at the policy level. Our military did everything that was asked of it, and the actual withdrawal itself under those conditions was an incredible feat. The policy failure did embolden our enemies, although Putin began his push for Ukraine 9 years ago so I don't think it was much of a factor in the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian military though has been exposed and incompetent and poorly armed. The only threat is in whatever nuclear capabilities they have. I have no inside knowledge but suspect that NATO is constantly wargaming a lightening reaction to neuter those capabilities at warp speed if worse comes to worst.

Thank you for the update on msm talking points.

Obummer and the gubmint

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The main Russian forces have only entered the conflict sporadically and Ukraine is being crushed.

Do you actually believe this? The freaking VDV dropped in and tried to take Kiev. They've lost over 1,000 tanks that there's visual confirmation of.

They're simply grinding the ukes down by throwing human waves at them in one podunk town with WWII tactics and strategy.

Nobody's winning. The ukes are facing an adversary willing to lose men disproportionately to take territory, and is using the literal dregs of their society to do so, and the Russians haven't been able to "take" a podunk town of 70k for over half a year.

I guess the only winners are people selling arms, and crooked politicians getting kickbacks.

The F-16’s are Cum’n..

One by Land ..

Two by Sea ..

The F-16’s are Cum’n..

The Biden family and Raytheon…

I'll put up another vote for China. And our Deep State/MIC.

I'm surprised Ukraine has been holding on with very little Russian advance. Ukraine actually took back some territory in the north and southwest of the Russian advance. I think Ukraine will counterattack this summer when they get all the newer tanks. There is already reported resistance fighting in the south.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682

https://www.ft.com/content/4351d5b0-0888-4b47-9368-6bc4dfbccbf5 the map in the south scroll down

Originally Posted by RufusG

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by readonly

From the time Russia entered the Crimea 8 years ago, the plan was never to stop with Ukraine. Putin wants to re-establish the borders of the USSR. His incompetence in Ukraine makes it clear that will never happen. Militarily this is a disgrace for Russia. Overall, Russia is losing regardless of what happens to Ukraine as they will not be able to push past Ukraine, won't even conquer the country, and at the rate it's going, won't even be able to keep Crimea.

The biggest shock out of all of this, after the initial shock of Russian incompetence in prosecuting the war, is that Putin has been able to keep his stranglehold on power in Russia this long despite the catastrophic failures of his military in Ukraine. Three months in, I figured he was on the ropes and would be toppled at any time. A year in, there's no outward sign of that happening anytime soon.

It is a false analogy to making any comparison to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. That was a catastrophic blunder at the policy level. Our military did everything that was asked of it, and the actual withdrawal itself under those conditions was an incredible feat. The policy failure did embolden our enemies, although Putin began his push for Ukraine 9 years ago so I don't think it was much of a factor in the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian military though has been exposed and incompetent and poorly armed. The only threat is in whatever nuclear capabilities they have. I have no inside knowledge but suspect that NATO is constantly wargaming a lightening reaction to neuter those capabilities at warp speed if worse comes to worst.

Good post, a thinker is a rarity here.

If by "thinking" you mean copying and pasting the State Dept. talking points, spot on.

Wow, you two joined the same year and your post counts are only one post apart. Crazy coincidence.

Always helps when your own sock puppets back you up.

Lots of "bots" busy again today..

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by readonly

From the time Russia entered the Crimea 8 years ago, the plan was never to stop with Ukraine. Putin wants to re-establish the borders of the USSR. His incompetence in Ukraine makes it clear that will never happen. Militarily this is a disgrace for Russia. Overall, Russia is losing regardless of what happens to Ukraine as they will not be able to push past Ukraine, won't even conquer the country, and at the rate it's going, won't even be able to keep Crimea.

The biggest shock out of all of this, after the initial shock of Russian incompetence in prosecuting the war, is that Putin has been able to keep his stranglehold on power in Russia this long despite the catastrophic failures of his military in Ukraine. Three months in, I figured he was on the ropes and would be toppled at any time. A year in, there's no outward sign of that happening anytime soon.

It is a false analogy to making any comparison to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. That was a catastrophic blunder at the policy level. Our military did everything that was asked of it, and the actual withdrawal itself under those conditions was an incredible feat. The policy failure did embolden our enemies, although Putin began his push for Ukraine 9 years ago so I don't think it was much of a factor in the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian military though has been exposed and incompetent and poorly armed. The only threat is in whatever nuclear capabilities they have. I have no inside knowledge but suspect that NATO is constantly wargaming a lightening reaction to neuter those capabilities at warp speed if worse comes to worst.

Good post, a thinker is a rarity here.

This.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by TimberRunner

Joe's team needs a ww3 crisis to keep him in basement for 2024 run. So there's your answer.

That tactic worked for FDR in 1944. He was too sick to attend the D convention. Of course the excuse was there was a war going on. He wasn't working at all the last several months and died in Georgia with an old girl friend. Probably wasn't a whole lot of screwing going on.

This isn't 1944.
We haven't invaded North Africa, Italy and Normandy, nor anything near their equivalents at this point.

Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Russia is now sending female prisoners to fight in Ukraine.

I guess the Wagner Group needs a little help.

Lol

Do you honestly believe that?

You’re statement fails any and all logical, common sense and critical thinking skills.

Really?

Try Newsmax, Reuters, euro weekly and many others.

Just DuckDuckGo:
“Is Russia using female prisoners in Ukraine “

Maybe that’ll help your ‘critical thinking skill’ and your’common sense’.

Check it out lemming.

The Soviets defeated Germany by overwhelming them with manpower, not caring how many casualties they took, because human life means nothing to them. They will in all likelihood, do the same thing to Ukraine. Putin is no different from Stalin that regard.

Originally Posted by kk alaska

https://www.youtube.com/live/5o2EiOcKsQE?feature=share&t=2116

Not justified to war. We fly there, they fly here. Its a daily thing. Biden may try to use it though.

I simply can't see us getting involved but I've been wrong a few times in my life.

That said, anyone that thinks Ukraine can beat Russia or that Russia has used its full power and force, is, IMHO, not thinking clearly.

Originally Posted by rost495

Originally Posted by kk alaska

https://www.youtube.com/live/5o2EiOcKsQE?feature=share&t=2116

Not justified to war. We fly there, they fly here. Its a daily thing. Biden may try to use it though.

I simply can't see us getting involved but I've been wrong a few times in my life.

That said, anyone that thinks Ukraine can beat Russia or that Russia has used its full power and force, is, IMHO, not thinking clearly.

Yes, yes, having the VDV destroyed and launching cruise missiles at infrastructure, hospitals, and apartments is how Russia half-asses it

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Wonder how many Ukie’s have Been made into Pudd’n in the Last Hour ..

Russia is not overwhelming Ukraine with manpower. Russian forces deployed in Ukraine have always been substantially smaller than the Ukrainian forces against them. They’re overwhelming them with superior firepower.

In Bakhmut Russia is firing about 30,000 artillery shells per day verses about 3,000 for the Ukies.

Originally Posted by JamesJr

The Soviets defeated Germany by overwhelming them with manpower, not caring how many casualties they took, because human life means nothing to them. They will in all likelihood, do the same thing to Ukraine. Putin is no different from Stalin that regard.

You don’t have a clue how Russia is conducting this war. Everything Russia is doing is done to maximize Ukrainian army casualties and minimize Russian casualties. The Russians are working slow and methodically to maximize their overwhelming artillery superiority. Probe to find the Ukrainians and then obliterate with artillery. The loss ratio is now 10 to 1 in Russian favor. The Russians will not take any territory not operationally strategic until the Ukrainian army is destroyed. The Russians just keep the pressure on and the Ukraine is forced to feed their army into a grinder. The Russian military industrial complex is running on all cylinders. The Russians are producing more artillery shells and other munitions than they’re consuming. New tanks and older tanks refurbished at a far greater rate than they’re lost. Across the board the Russians are building up their military in preparation for direct war with NATO. By the end of the year Russia intends to have over two million men in the professional military fully armed and trained. That doesn’t include the reserve army. Russia is also still fighting in a way that leaves most of Ukraine intact. The Russians have not blown all the bridges , roads , and tunnels across the Ukraine. For now the Russians blow up the power grid , air defense systems , and military warehouses. The Russians are well capable of blowing up the rest and may be forced to in the future. To quote one anlyst “Russia cares more about the Ukrainian people than the Ukraine and the USA does”.

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by JamesJr

The Soviets defeated Germany by overwhelming them with manpower, not caring how many casualties they took, because human life means nothing to them. They will in all likelihood, do the same thing to Ukraine. Putin is no different from Stalin that regard.

You don’t have a clue how Russia is conducting this war. Everything Russia is doing is done to maximize Ukrainian army casualties and minimize Russian casualties. The Russians are working slow and methodically to maximize their overwhelming artillery superiority. Probe to find the Ukrainians and then obliterate with artillery. The loss ratio is now 10 to 1 in Russian favor. The Russians will not take any territory not operationally strategic until the Ukrainian army is destroyed. The Russians just keep the pressure on and the Ukraine is forced to feed their army into a grinder. The Russian military industrial complex is running on all cylinders. The Russians are producing more artillery shells and other munitions than they’re consuming. New tanks and older tanks refurbished at a far greater rate than they’re lost. Across the board the Russians are building up their military in preparation for direct war with NATO. By the end of the year Russia intends to have over two million men in the professional military fully armed and trained. That doesn’t include the reserve army. Russia is also still fighting in a way that leaves most of Ukraine intact. The Russians have not blown all the bridges , roads , and tunnels across the Ukraine. For now the Russians blow up the power grid , air defense systems , and military warehouses. The Russians are well capable of blowing up the rest and may be forced to in the future. To quote one anlyst “Russia cares more about the Ukrainian people than the Ukraine and the USA does”.

Where did you get the 10/1 loss ratio in favor of Russia from?

Where did you get the info about the new and old tanks being built and refurbished at a greater rate than they are lost?

Read this morning that Poland is sending MIG 29s to Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by JamesJr

The Soviets defeated Germany by overwhelming them with manpower, not caring how many casualties they took, because human life means nothing to them. They will in all likelihood, do the same thing to Ukraine. Putin is no different from Stalin that regard.

You don’t have a clue how Russia is conducting this war. Everything Russia is doing is done to maximize Ukrainian army casualties and minimize Russian casualties. The Russians are working slow and methodically to maximize their overwhelming artillery superiority. Probe to find the Ukrainians and then obliterate with artillery. The loss ratio is now 10 to 1 in Russian favor. The Russians will not take any territory not operationally strategic until the Ukrainian army is destroyed. The Russians just keep the pressure on and the Ukraine is forced to feed their army into a grinder. The Russian military industrial complex is running on all cylinders. The Russians are producing more artillery shells and other munitions than they’re consuming. New tanks and older tanks refurbished at a far greater rate than they’re lost. Across the board the Russians are building up their military in preparation for direct war with NATO. By the end of the year Russia intends to have over two million men in the professional military fully armed and trained. That doesn’t include the reserve army. Russia is also still fighting in a way that leaves most of Ukraine intact. The Russians have not blown all the bridges , roads , and tunnels across the Ukraine. For now the Russians blow up the power grid , air defense systems , and military warehouses. The Russians are well capable of blowing up the rest and may be forced to in the future. To quote one anlyst “Russia cares more about the Ukrainian people than the Ukraine and the USA does”.

LOL LOL...........you must be getting your information from comrade ribka.

Originally Posted by JamesJr

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by JamesJr

The Soviets defeated Germany by overwhelming them with manpower, not caring how many casualties they took, because human life means nothing to them. They will in all likelihood, do the same thing to Ukraine. Putin is no different from Stalin that regard.

You don’t have a clue how Russia is conducting this war. Everything Russia is doing is done to maximize Ukrainian army casualties and minimize Russian casualties. The Russians are working slow and methodically to maximize their overwhelming artillery superiority. Probe to find the Ukrainians and then obliterate with artillery. The loss ratio is now 10 to 1 in Russian favor. The Russians will not take any territory not operationally strategic until the Ukrainian army is destroyed. The Russians just keep the pressure on and the Ukraine is forced to feed their army into a grinder. The Russian military industrial complex is running on all cylinders. The Russians are producing more artillery shells and other munitions than they’re consuming. New tanks and older tanks refurbished at a far greater rate than they’re lost. Across the board the Russians are building up their military in preparation for direct war with NATO. By the end of the year Russia intends to have over two million men in the professional military fully armed and trained. That doesn’t include the reserve army. Russia is also still fighting in a way that leaves most of Ukraine intact. The Russians have not blown all the bridges , roads , and tunnels across the Ukraine. For now the Russians blow up the power grid , air defense systems , and military warehouses. The Russians are well capable of blowing up the rest and may be forced to in the future. To quote one anlyst “Russia cares more about the Ukrainian people than the Ukraine and the USA does”.

LOL LOL...........you must be getting your information from comrade ribka.

As opposed to the MSM?

Ukraine is having bad problems with acquiring personnel for its military. Many have been killed or maimed and about a fourth of the population has abandoned the country,..undoubtedly containing a lot of military age males.

Colonel McGregor said that the U.S. is sending brigades of troops into the area,...probably staging in Poland.

The soldier in the article I posted yesterday about conditions in Bakhmut was 54. Healthy armies do not have 54 year old conscript privates. They are scraping the bottom of the barrel. 54 year olds do not make good soldiers for lots of reasons beyond their physical limitations.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

I posted an article from the Kyiv Independent today where they interviewed a guy who was in Bakhmut. Of the eight guys he went to the lines with, two were dead within minutes, two more got their arms blown off within an hour or two more, the remaining four were pulled out pretty quickly and the position was lost.

Oh, and the soldier being interviewed was 54.

You tell me who is winning.

Well, it isn't the Russians. As some have mentioned, lots of big shot getting rich...

It is a tie.... by design.

The cabal/NATO, with the United States being the key influencer, will see that this drags on for years. Lots of money to be made in the West from a war that goes on and on.

Russia is working to destroy the Ukranian military with a war of attrition. Zelensky is playing right into his hands.

Zelensky is banking on the idea that when the Ukranian military is crushed, NATO troops will replace them.

He may be correct.

Originally Posted by OldSchool_BestSchool

It is a tie.... by design.

The cabal/NATO, with the United States being the key influencer, will see that this drags on for years. Lots of money to be made in the West from a war that goes on and on.

Lots of money to be spent and they need to finish breaking the USA so it can be brought to heel.

Russia was supposed to be destroyed also and may yet be. It is such a wealthy nation in resources with a relatively low population that you know the money manipulators of the west are slobbering all over themselves wanting it.

Russia is proving to be pretty resilient and if the past is any guide they won't roll over easy. They do not regard lives as does the west.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by OldSchool_BestSchool

It is a tie.... by design.

The cabal/NATO, with the United States being the key influencer, will see that this drags on for years. Lots of money to be made in the West from a war that goes on and on.

Lots of money to be spent and they need to finish breaking the USA so it can be brought to heel.

Russia was supposed to be destroyed also and may yet be. It is such a wealthy nation in resources with a relatively low population that you know the money manipulators of the west are slobbering all over themselves wanting it.

Russia is proving to be pretty resilient and if the past is any guide they won't roll over easy. They do not regard lives as does the west.

Russia won't be destroyed without kicking off WW3.

WW3 will be nuclear and it won't take long to get there once it starts.

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by TimberRunner

Joe's team needs a ww3 crisis to keep him in basement for 2024 run. So there's your answer.

That tactic worked for FDR in 1944. He was too sick to attend the D convention. Of course the excuse was there was a war going on. He wasn't working at all the last several months and died in Georgia with an old girl friend. Probably wasn't a whole lot of screwing going on.

This isn't 1944.
We haven't invaded North Africa, Italy and Normandy, nor anything near their equivalents at this point.

Just the invasion of sovereign countries Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia twice, Syria, Iraq twice, Afghanistan ........ We're spreading peace and democracy throughout the world

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by OldSchool_BestSchool

It is a tie.... by design.

The cabal/NATO, with the United States being the key influencer, will see that this drags on for years. Lots of money to be made in the West from a war that goes on and on.

Lots of money to be spent and they need to finish breaking the USA so it can be brought to heel.

Russia was supposed to be destroyed also and may yet be. It is such a wealthy nation in resources with a relatively low population that you know the money manipulators of the west are slobbering all over themselves wanting it.

Russia is proving to be pretty resilient and if the past is any guide they won't roll over easy. They do not regard lives as does the west.

Russia won't be destroyed without kicking off WW3.

WW3 will be nuclear and it won't take long to get there once it starts.

I fear you are right. That is why I'm asking the Lord to deliver the nasty nation of Ukraine to Russia. If Russia cannot establish a buffer between themselves and NATO/USA there will not be a chance of peace.

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by TimberRunner

Joe's team needs a ww3 crisis to keep him in basement for 2024 run. So there's your answer.

That tactic worked for FDR in 1944. He was too sick to attend the D convention. Of course the excuse was there was a war going on. He wasn't working at all the last several months and died in Georgia with an old girl friend. Probably wasn't a whole lot of screwing going on.

This isn't 1944.
We haven't invaded North Africa, Italy and Normandy, nor anything near their equivalents at this point.

Yet

Originally Posted by JamesJr

The Soviets defeated Germany by overwhelming them with manpower, not caring how many casualties they took, because human life means nothing to them. They will in all likelihood, do the same thing to Ukraine. Putin is no different from Stalin that regard.

That was true in WWII. Zhukov would send straf units walking through a minefield to clear it before advancing with his shock troops. The brutal logic was that they would sustain the same number of casualties if the field was defended by artillery!...There are other examples of ruthless brutality but it was total war... ever hear of Russian mine dogs?

But according to MacGregor and Ritter, as independent sources, and not the propaganda media, Putin is actually trying to minimize casualties on both sides. We are free to believe what we want but I will not believe the so called news stations.....at least Mac and Ritter don't seem to have an agenda.

Short answer to the original question... China.

If Putin is so stupid to not realize he is next if China prevails over the USA....he is in for a big surprise.

Have you all played the board game Risk ?? The countries will fall eventually. It's just a matter of time. The longer the game is played, the more countries will fall. That's just the way it is. My money is on Poland. When Ukraine falls it will be up to Poland to either stop them or fall too. I really think the Poles have an axe to grind with Russia.

kwg

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russia is working to destroy the Ukranian military with a war of attrition. Zelensky is playing right into his hands.

Zelensky is banking on the idea that when the Ukranian military is crushed, NATO troops will replace them.

He may be correct.

They are fighting a war of attrition because their incompetence prevented them from defeating an inferior enemy force. The way their forces were staged and deployed, it was clear, even to a neophyte, their goal was a Blitzkreig thrust to capture Kiev and the port cities to the south. So they have no choice, same as the Germans and the siege of Leningrad (900 days).

As to NATO committing troops in direct combat, I'll say it here now for the record- NEVER HAPPEN- and if I'm wrong I will clearly admit it.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russia is working to destroy the Ukranian military with a war of attrition. Zelensky is playing right into his hands.

Zelensky is banking on the idea that when the Ukranian military is crushed, NATO troops will replace them.

He may be correct.

You say "playing into his hands.". What, exactly, would you propose they do? Not fight an invader?

If the US was invaded, should we, as a nation, not fight?

The cognitive disconnect in the "Russia had to invade" crowd that acts like Ukraine should roll over and die without a fight boggles the mind.

Lotta surrender monkey puzzies around here that would be rolling over to be a stooge for the occupation forces if the US was invaded.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russia is working to destroy the Ukranian military with a war of attrition. Zelensky is playing right into his hands.

Zelensky is banking on the idea that when the Ukranian military is crushed, NATO troops will replace them.

He may be correct.

You say "playing into his hands.". What, exactly, would you propose they do? Not fight an invader?

If the US was invaded, should we, as a nation, not fight?

The cognitive disconnect in the "Russia had to invade" crowd that acts like Ukraine should roll over and die without a fight boggles the mind.

Lotta surrender monkey puzzies around here that would be rolling over to be a stooge for the occupation forces if the US was invaded.

You’re right. If Canada invaded Minnesota, I wouldn’t lift a phuqing finger.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You’re right. If Canada invaded Minnesota, I wouldn’t lift a phuqing finger.

Oh, I'm well aware of how many Russia loving cowards are around these parts.

At least you're honest about it. 😉

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russia is working to destroy the Ukranian military with a war of attrition. Zelensky is playing right into his hands.

Zelensky is banking on the idea that when the Ukranian military is crushed, NATO troops will replace them.

He may be correct.

You say "playing into his hands.". What, exactly, would you propose they do? Not fight an invader?

If the US was invaded, should we, as a nation, not fight?

The cognitive disconnect in the "Russia had to invade" crowd that acts like Ukraine should roll over and die without a fight boggles the mind.

Lotta surrender monkey puzzies around here that would be rolling over to be a stooge for the occupation forces if the US was invaded.

You’re right. If Canada invaded Minnesota, I wouldn’t lift a phuqing finger.

Not surprising at all.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russia is working to destroy the Ukranian military with a war of attrition. Zelensky is playing right into his hands.

Zelensky is banking on the idea that when the Ukranian military is crushed, NATO troops will replace them.

He may be correct.

You say "playing into his hands.". What, exactly, would you propose they do? Not fight an invader?

If the US was invaded, should we, as a nation, not fight?

The cognitive disconnect in the "Russia had to invade" crowd that acts like Ukraine should roll over and die without a fight boggles the mind.

Lotta surrender monkey puzzies around here that would be rolling over to be a stooge for the occupation forces if the US was invaded.

First, Ukraine should have resisted the coup that put Zelensky in charge.

Secondly, Ukranians shouldn't have began a system of genocide against Ethnic Russian citizens of Ukraine.

Taken as a whole, Ukranians obviously aren't very deep thinking people. Their own government is killing them, Russians are killing them, and the U.S. is getting them killed by using them as proxies in their war against Russia.

The intelligent Ukranians are abandoning the whole mess. Poland has absorbed a huge number of Ukranians. That's going to cause problems in the long run. Poles and Ukranians have a long history of conflict. Poland is going to get tired of the Ukranian influence that the war has placed in Poland.

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Ukraine could have been Austria. Officially neutral and integrated into Europe. They’ve got to be feeling about as stupid as Poland did in October of 1939.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because they are paying in blood...and continue to fight.

Why do you think they are doing that?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You’re right. If Canada invaded Minnesota, I wouldn’t lift a phuqing finger.

Oh, I'm well aware of how many Russia loving cowards are around these parts.

At least you're honest about it. 😉

You are the campfire equivalent to cnn. You spout the same bullchit talking point because you cant win this argument. So anyone who doesnt agree with you is Pro-Russia

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Hardly.

They can quit anytime...but they continue to fight.

Why?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because they don't understand that the globalists don't have their best interest in mind. They don't know what the left represents.

They don't understand that leftist globalists control the U.S. and will spend the Ukranian people like Kleenex in order to achieve globalist goals.

Basically,...they just don't understand.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Because they are paying in blood...and continue to fight.

Why do you think they are doing that?

Don't bother. The "she shouldn't have worn that dress" victim blaming us pathetic. Didn't surprise me at all though considering the source.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because they don't understand that the globalists don't have their best interest in mind. They don't know what the left represents.

They don't understand that leftist globalists control the U.S. and will spend the Ukranian people like Kleenex in order to achieve globalist goals.

Basically,...they just don't understand.

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Hardly.

They can quit anytime...but they continue to fight.

Why?

They continue to fight because the thugs who control Ukraine are dragging men off the street and throwing them into the meat grinder that exists on the front.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because they don't understand that the globalists don't have their best interest in mind. They don't know what the left represents.

They don't understand that leftist globalists control the U.S. and will spend the Ukranian people like Kleenex in order to achieve globalist goals.

Basically,...they just don't understand.

Maybe they understand the Russians better than you. They know what happens next...that's why they are giving blood. Their country...giving their lives to defend it.

More understanding than you have, I'm sure.

Some one is making money.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Hardly.

They can quit anytime...but they continue to fight.

Why?

They continue to fight because the thugs who control Ukraine are dragging men off the street and throwing them into the meat grinder that exists on the front.

That Wagner and Putin...your heros.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because they don't understand that the globalists don't have their best interest in mind. They don't know what the left represents.

They don't understand that leftist globalists control the U.S. and will spend the Ukranian people like Kleenex in order to achieve globalist goals.

Basically,...they just don't understand.

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

The U.S. shouldn't have stirred the schitt up back when Obama was President.

As I mentioned before. Ukranians don't understand the leftists who control the U.S. government.

Even a lot of Americans don't understand what leftist America represents.

Take you, for example. The leftists in America stir up a bunch of schitt around the world that is detrimental to America, and you cheer it on.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Hardly.

They can quit anytime...but they continue to fight.

Why?

They continue to fight because the thugs who control Ukraine are dragging men off the street and throwing them into the meat grinder that exists on the front.

That Wagner and Putin...your heros.

Taking stupid is your only retort?

Accept it. You're not tall enough for this ride.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because they don't understand that the globalists don't have their best interest in mind. They don't know what the left represents.

They don't understand that leftist globalists control the U.S. and will spend the Ukranian people like Kleenex in order to achieve globalist goals.

Basically,...they just don't understand.

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

The U.S. shouldn't have stirred the schitt up back when Obama was President.

As I mentioned before. Ukranians don't understand the leftists who control the U.S. government.

Even a lot of Americans don't understand what leftist America represents.

Take you, for example. The leftists in America stir up a bunch of schitt around the world that is detrimental to America, and you cheer it on.

Hardly.

You just like ad hominem attacks when your logic fails.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because they don't understand that the globalists don't have their best interest in mind. They don't know what the left represents.

They don't understand that leftist globalists control the U.S. and will spend the Ukranian people like Kleenex in order to achieve globalist goals.

Basically,...they just don't understand.

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

The U.S. shouldn't have stirred the schitt up back when Obama was President.

As I mentioned before. Ukranians don't understand the leftists who control the U.S. government.

Even a lot of Americans don't understand what leftist America represents.

Take you, for example. The leftists in America stir up a bunch of schitt around the world that is detrimental to America, and you cheer it on.

Hardly.

You just like ad hominem attacks when you logic fails.

The truth is just the truth. It's not ad hom. Your only retort is to claim that anyone who sees the stupidity of America being involved in Ukraine is because they support Russia.

That's stupid *and* dishonest.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because they don't understand that the globalists don't have their best interest in mind. They don't know what the left represents.

They don't understand that leftist globalists control the U.S. and will spend the Ukranian people like Kleenex in order to achieve globalist goals.

Basically,...they just don't understand.

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

The U.S. shouldn't have stirred the schitt up back when Obama was President.

As I mentioned before. Ukranians don't understand the leftists who control the U.S. government.

Even a lot of Americans don't understand what leftist America represents.

Take you, for example. The leftists in America stir up a bunch of schitt around the world that is detrimental to America, and you cheer it on.

Hardly.

You just like ad hominem attacks when you logic fails.

The truth is just the truth. It's not ad hom. You're only retort is to claim that anyone who sees the stupidity of America being involved in Ukraine is because they support Russia.

That's stupid *and* dishonest.

Again, hardly.

Bristoe,

Simple question.

Do you support countries having borders?

Taking a purely objective view of the war, and reading unbiased accounts, it appears as though Russia is slaughtering Ukraine.

And no I'm not for Putin, or any other Marxist, socialist, commie country

Just calling it as I see it..

There was never any doubt from the beginning that Russia could eventually win. But Russia has vastly underperformed, whereas Ukraine, with the aid of NATO intelligence and NATO arms has over performed. when this first started, nobody here would’ve predicted this. Most here thought it would be over in 72hrs.

Originally Posted by jorgeI

As to NATO committing troops in direct combat, I'll say it here now for the record- NEVER HAPPEN- and if I'm wrong I will clearly admit it.

I hope & pray you are correct, but I think it's already happening. They just re-flag NATO troops as mercenaries.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

I think one part of their problem was transit fees by Russian pipeline companies. I think Ukraine got a little greedy/didn't understand their relative bargaining power.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by jorgeI

As to NATO committing troops in direct combat, I'll say it here now for the record- NEVER HAPPEN- and if I'm wrong I will clearly admit it.

I hope & pray you are correct, but I think it's already happening. They just re-flag NATO troops as mercenaries.

There are probably between 10,000 and 20,000 Poles in there already.

It’s show Time in Ukielund..

Either the NWO ponies up or it’s Over Militarily..

That’s mean Article 5 ..

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russia is working to destroy the Ukranian military with a war of attrition. Zelensky is playing right into his hands.

Zelensky is banking on the idea that when the Ukranian military is crushed, NATO troops will replace them.

He may be correct.

You say "playing into his hands.". What, exactly, would you propose they do? Not fight an invader?

If the US was invaded, should we, as a nation, not fight?

The cognitive disconnect in the "Russia had to invade" crowd that acts like Ukraine should roll over and die without a fight boggles the mind.

Lotta surrender monkey puzzies around here that would be rolling over to be a stooge for the occupation forces if the US was invaded.

First, Ukraine should have resisted the coup that put Zelensky in charge.

Secondly, Ukranians shouldn't have began a system of genocide against Ethnic Russian citizens of Ukraine.

Taken as a whole, Ukranians obviously aren't very deep thinking people. Their own government is killing them, Russians are killing them, and the U.S. is getting them killed by using them as proxies in their war against Russia.

The intelligent Ukranians are abandoning the whole mess. Poland has absorbed a huge number of Ukranians. That's going to cause problems in the long run. Poles and Ukranians have a long history of conflict. Poland is going to get tired of the Ukranian influence that the war has placed in Poland.

Too bad Trump wasnt POTUS in 2014. He would have blocked Zero and Biden and Kilery and Soros and Schwab from affecting the NAZI WORLD ORDER coup of Ukraine as he did by stepping in and helping Putin block the pukes from taking down Assad and turning Syria over to the muxxy Caliphate as Zero and Kilery did to Lybia.

Death to America Theme Park ..

You can see it Cum’n and there ain’t Nothing You can Do to Save It ..

It’s Pure Math ..

The Sane are out numbered 3-1 by the Thieves and the Addled..

That’s a Rap Fellow Byzantines ..

There's talking going on behind the scenes. Xi talking with Zelensky. American diplomats talking with Russian diplomats.

I'm not sure what it means. But the best case scenario would be for the Donbass region to return to Russia. I'm confident that that's what Russia will put on the table.

My concern is if Russia will trust Ukraine to leave the Donbass region alone even if it does become a part of Russia again.

I think Putin intends to crush the Ukraine military before he makes any agreements about anything, at this point.

Ukraine...formerly of the USSR doesn't understand leftists...

Lol.

Originally Posted by Calvin

There was never any doubt from the beginning that Russia could eventually win. But Russia has vastly underperformed, whereas Ukraine, with the aid of NATO intelligence and NATO arms has over performed. when this first started, nobody here would’ve predicted this. Most here thought it would be over in 72hrs.

This was posted within 72hrs of the invasion.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

So far this schitt show has been a great example of why the 2nd A is important

If and this is a BIG IF the Russkys get stopped or even booted out of Ukraine it going to be an incredible win for not infringing on the "right to keep and bear arms".

I don't think the Globalists saw this one coming.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Hardly.

They can quit anytime...but they continue to fight.

Why?

They continue to fight because the thugs who control Ukraine are dragging men off the street and throwing them into the meat grinder that exists on the front.

Impossible Bristoe. The proud Ukes have all stayed behind and fought on their own will lol

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Hardly.

They can quit anytime...but they continue to fight.

Why?

They continue to fight because the thugs who control Ukraine are dragging men off the street and throwing them into the meat grinder that exists on the front.

Impossible Bristoe. The proud Ukes have all stayed behind and fought on their own will lol

They are...

Laugh all you want.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Hardly.

They can quit anytime...but they continue to fight.

Why?

They continue to fight because the thugs who control Ukraine are dragging men off the street and throwing them into the meat grinder that exists on the front.

That Wagner and Putin...your heros.

You and the other chitheads making this dumb argument should be embarrassed of yourselves. You literally sound like a cnn leftist. Ever stop and think thats why the majority in here think youre a democrat? None of us that are fully against any US involvement are pro-putin. I could give a chit less about Russia. That said, nato forced their hand so I dont blame them for what they have done. We are the ones fully responsible for this war not already being over and we are the ones at this point who have sent thousands upon thousands of soldiers to their grave. Some of you are just too dumb or bullheaded to realize what is actually happening in the world

Anyone see a recent report on the electricity situation over there? That was a big discussion topic for a while but seems to have quieted down.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Ukraine...formerly of the USSR doesn't understand leftists...

Lol.

Whats so funny? Either you dont or youre one of them judging off your posts

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Ukraine...formerly of the USSR doesn't understand leftists...

Lol.

Whats so funny? Either you dont or youre one of them judging off your posts

That Ukraine doesn't understand the left...they lived under communism...Russians ruled them...why do you think they are fighting so hard?

It's not hard.

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Hardly.

They can quit anytime...but they continue to fight.

Why?

They continue to fight because the thugs who control Ukraine are dragging men off the street and throwing them into the meat grinder that exists on the front.

That Wagner and Putin...your heros.

You and the other chitheads making this dumb argument should be embarrassed of yourselves. You literally sound like a cnn leftist. Ever stop and think thats why the majority in here think youre a democrat? None of us that are fully against any US involvement are pro-putin. I could give a chit less about Russia. That said, nato forced their hand so I dont blame them for what they have done. We are the ones fully responsible for this war not already being over and we are the ones at this point who have sent thousands upon thousands of soldiers to their grave. Some of you are just too dumb or bullheaded to realize what is actually happening in the world

If you think I'm a Democrat, you are really dense.

Just saying.

The loons are thick today.

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

That Ukraine doesn't understand the left...they lived under communism...Russians ruled them...why do you think they are fighting so hard?

It's not hard.

That right there is what the Putin puffers on here either fail to comprehend, or else just choose to ignore. Ukraine is not fighting to keep any bio labs, or for the Neo-Nazis, or to drag NATO into a war with Russia. They are fighting because they know what living under the Russian rule is like. I'm not for getting into a shooting war with the Russians over Ukraine, but the fact is that we have been at "war" with the Russians since 1945 in some way, shape, form, or fashion.
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Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

He kills most of the NAZIs on his border. That’s what he gets. And he gets a buffer.

The real winner is the arms dealers

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Originally Posted by jwp475

The real winner is the arms dealers

No doubt my friend. The good ole military industrial complex is the big winner here. The citizens of Ukraine are the real losers

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

So we invaded Ukraine with our military?

If they wanted to try to join NATO, it's their choice...their country, their choice.

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The insane part of it all is, Ukraine could have established relations with Russia and existed with them much like Germany was. Instead, Ukraine wanted not continue playing war,...and now they've got it.

Why do you think the people of UK chose that path?

Because the US forced them to

Wrong.

Because Gang Putin clearly said that in the event of a nuclear war London would be the first place hit.

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

💯% spot on

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by jwp475

The real winner is the arms dealers

No doubt my friend. The good ole military industrial complex is the big winner here. The citizens of Ukraine are the real losers

Exactly

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Wrong again.

Breathing room from NATO, you say?

How about Finland and Sweden now joining NATO?
How about Poland being rather close by.

Have you even thought about Putin previously invading Georgia and The Crimea?

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

Hey Giggles, do you blow retired service members to get sales leads?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

So youre telling me that the US in not responsible for dead Ukraines?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

You have a wife? What's his name?

This is how this is gonna go. The world is watching all of this. Any little cred we had left, if any, is lost over what we are doing. Everyone knows we blew up the Russians pipe line. We are destroying the worlds economy over climate bullchit, yet we sent all that gas into the ocean and atmosphere. Everything we do is one giant hypocrisy. Russia and Ukraine have been on the verge of peace until we pushed hard over and over. I'll say it again. Russia is not good, Ukraine is worse with corruption. We are probably the worst of the 3 at this point. How can you stand behind what this illegal government has done? China is going to come in, land a peace deal between the two and take the next giant leap towards being the worlds only true super power. We are declining and biden has smashed the fast forward button to the point that we are on the verge of total collapse. You somehow have bought into all of this. WW3 seems to be a joke to some of you. Guessing its just old fat keyboard warriors with no children to worry about. I have children to worry about. The last thing I'll allow is a bullchit war drawn up by the evil pricks in nato and the wef that will possibly draw my child into fighting

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Hey Giggles, do you blow retired service members to get sales leads?

No, he does it to get ahead.

Originally Posted by gunchamp

So youre telling me that the US in not responsible for dead Ukraines?

Bidette Admin is responsible for many needless Ukraine deaths by slow rolling the promised weapons.

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

So youre telling me that the US in not responsible for dead Ukraines?

Russia has maintain for over a decade that they would not tolerate a country on their border joining NATO The U. S. had 6 biological weapons labd operating in the Ukraine.

The U. S. Is definitely responsible for thus war as they pushed Ukraine to join NATO and we financed the biological weapons lab.

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

So youre telling me that the US in not responsible for dead Ukraines?

Russia has maintain for over a decade that they would not tolerate a country on their border joining NATO The U. S. had 6 biological weapons labd operating in the Ukraine.

The U. S. Is definitely responsible for thus war as they pushed Ukraine to join NATO and we financed the biological weapons lab.

Sober up, bud.

Originally Posted by gunchamp

This is how this is gonna go. The world is watching all of this. Any little cred we had left, if any, is lost over what we are doing. Everyone knows we blew up the Russians pipe line. We are destroying the worlds economy over climate bullchit, yet we sent all that gas into the ocean and atmosphere. Everything we do is one giant hypocrisy. Russia and Ukraine have been on the verge of peace until we pushed hard over and over. I'll say it again. Russia is not good, Ukraine is worse with corruption. We are probably the worst of the 3 at this point. How can you stand behind what this illegal government has done? China is going to come in, land a peace deal between the two and take the next giant leap towards being the worlds only true super power. We are declining and biden has smashed the fast forward button to the point that we are on the verge of total collapse. You somehow have bought into all of this. WW3 seems to be a joke to some of you. Guessing its just old fat keyboard warriors with no children to worry about. I have children to worry about. The last thing I'll allow is a bullchit war drawn up by the evil pricks in nato and the wef that will possibly draw my child into fighting

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Originally Posted by gunchamp

This is how this is gonna go. The world is watching all of this. Any little cred we had left, if any, is lost over what we are doing. Everyone knows we blew up the Russians pipe line. We are destroying the worlds economy over climate bullchit, yet we sent all that gas into the ocean and atmosphere. Everything we do is one giant hypocrisy. Russia and Ukraine have been on the verge of peace until we pushed hard over and over. I'll say it again. Russia is not good, Ukraine is worse with corruption. We are probably the worst of the 3 at this point. How can you stand behind what this illegal government has done? China is going to come in, land a peace deal between the two and take the next giant leap towards being the worlds only true super power. We are declining and biden has smashed the fast forward button to the point that we are on the verge of total collapse. You somehow have bought into all of this. WW3 seems to be a joke to some of you. Guessing its just old fat keyboard warriors with no children to worry about. I have children to worry about. The last thing I'll allow is a bullchit war drawn up by the evil pricks in nato and the wef that will possibly draw my child into fighting

I will only address "the world is watching."

You are, ironically, correct.

The world is watching and they have seen that Russian military kit is C R A P.

Who will buy it now? Iran, sure. Despots, ok. But Russia has proven in this war its kit is crap. Look at the tanks they have to bring to the fight now.

Air dominance? Nope. Do you think the US Air Force wouldn't have Air dominance after a YEAR?

All Putin has done is screw himself.

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

1. Duh, maybe he's doing it to keep the next DOD BIOWEAPONS Smallpox or Anthrax or Covid from being dumped in Russia and blamed on him.

2. Duh, maybe he doesn't want short range dirty nukes just across his nations border and 2 min from Russia proper.

3. Duh, maybe he just wants to take out the Evil Khazarian Mafia decendants of the Cananites and AshkeNAZI false jues of which Hitler was one. They seem to have a history with killing a lot of Russians starting with the King of Prussia and his family and then again in WW1 and WW2.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

1. Duh, maybe he's doing it to keep the next DOD BIOWEAPONS Smallpox or Anthrax or Covid from being dumped in Russia and blamed on him.

2. Duh, maybe he doesn't want short range dirty nukes just across his nations border and 2 min from Russia proper.

3. Duh, maybe he just wants to take out the Evil Khazarian Mafia decendants of the Cananites and AshkeNAZI false jues of which Hitler was one. They seem to have a history with killing a lot of Russians starting with the King of Prussia and his family and then again in WW1 and WW2.

Tell us more...

Trump in charge of giving the Ukraine $100 billion or so...

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

So youre telling me that the US in not responsible for dead Ukraines?

Russia has maintain for over a decade that they would not tolerate a country on their border joining NATO The U. S. had 6 biological weapons labd operating in the Ukraine.

The U. S. Is definitely responsible for thus war as they pushed Ukraine to join NATO and we financed the biological weapons lab.

Sober up, bud.

Wise up if that's possible

Maybe Putin doesn't like these pukes who some of us refer to as Ukes.

The world watched the US defeat a small backward third world country Afghanistan after a 20 year war . Our air dominance helped cinch the victory over the Taliban just like Vietnam lol

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

This is how this is gonna go. The world is watching all of this. Any little cred we had left, if any, is lost over what we are doing. Everyone knows we blew up the Russians pipe line. We are destroying the worlds economy over climate bullchit, yet we sent all that gas into the ocean and atmosphere. Everything we do is one giant hypocrisy. Russia and Ukraine have been on the verge of peace until we pushed hard over and over. I'll say it again. Russia is not good, Ukraine is worse with corruption. We are probably the worst of the 3 at this point. How can you stand behind what this illegal government has done? China is going to come in, land a peace deal between the two and take the next giant leap towards being the worlds only true super power. We are declining and biden has smashed the fast forward button to the point that we are on the verge of total collapse. You somehow have bought into all of this. WW3 seems to be a joke to some of you. Guessing its just old fat keyboard warriors with no children to worry about. I have children to worry about. The last thing I'll allow is a bullchit war drawn up by the evil pricks in nato and the wef that will possibly draw my child into fighting

I will only address "the world is watching."

You are, ironically, correct.

The world is watching and they have seen that Russian military kit is C R A P.

Who will buy it now? Iran, sure. Despots, ok. But Russia has proven in this war its kit is crap. Look at the tanks they have to bring to the fight now.

Air dominance? Nope. Do you think the US Air Force wouldn't have Air dominance after a YEAR?

All Putin has done is screw himself.

Originally Posted by ribka

The world watched the US defeat a small backward third world country Afghanistan after a 20 year war lol

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

This is how this is gonna go. The world is watching all of this. Any little cred we had left, if any, is lost over what we are doing. Everyone knows we blew up the Russians pipe line. We are destroying the worlds economy over climate bullchit, yet we sent all that gas into the ocean and atmosphere. Everything we do is one giant hypocrisy. Russia and Ukraine have been on the verge of peace until we pushed hard over and over. I'll say it again. Russia is not good, Ukraine is worse with corruption. We are probably the worst of the 3 at this point. How can you stand behind what this illegal government has done? China is going to come in, land a peace deal between the two and take the next giant leap towards being the worlds only true super power. We are declining and biden has smashed the fast forward button to the point that we are on the verge of total collapse. You somehow have bought into all of this. WW3 seems to be a joke to some of you. Guessing its just old fat keyboard warriors with no children to worry about. I have children to worry about. The last thing I'll allow is a bullchit war drawn up by the evil pricks in nato and the wef that will possibly draw my child into fighting

I will only address "the world is watching."

You are, ironically, correct.

The world is watching and they have seen that Russian military kit is C R A P.

Who will buy it now? Iran, sure. Despots, ok. But Russia has proven in this war its kit is crap. Look at the tanks they have to bring to the fight now.

Air dominance? Nope. Do you think the US Air Force wouldn't have Air dominance after a YEAR?

All Putin has done is screw himself.

Point being?

The world doesn't question our kit.

Our politicians, of course.

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

So youre telling me that the US in not responsible for dead Ukraines?

Russia has maintain for over a decade that they would not tolerate a country on their border joining NATO The U. S. had 6 biological weapons labd operating in the Ukraine.

The U. S. Is definitely responsible for thus war as they pushed Ukraine to join NATO and we financed the biological weapons lab.

Sober up, bud.

Wise up if that's possible

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Originally Posted by Calvin

There was never any doubt from the beginning that Russia could eventually win. But Russia has vastly underperformed, whereas Ukraine, with the aid of NATO intelligence and NATO arms has over performed. when this first started, nobody here would’ve predicted this. Most here thought it would be over in 72hrs.

The Russians had won in the first week. There was a negotiated settlement which was the purpose of the special operation. Russia never intended to take the Ukraine. The goal was a neutral Ukraine and an end to the ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russians in the Donbas. There would have been no confrontation at all if the Minsk agreements had been honored. Instead Putin misread the west thinking there was a desire for peace. Instead the light use of force was taken as weakness by us and we stepped in and told the Ukraine to fight to the last Ukrainian. The Russians have still not resorted to total doctrinal war. Putin sees the Ukrainians as fellow Slavs and victims of the west.

Putin doesn’t like this

Originally Posted by JamesJr

Originally Posted by Jcubed

That Ukraine doesn't understand the left...they lived under communism...Russians ruled them...why do you think they are fighting so hard?

It's not hard.

That right there is what the Putin puffers on here either fail to comprehend, or else just choose to ignore. Ukraine is not fighting to keep any bio labs, or for the Neo-Nazis, or to drag NATO into a war with Russia. They are fighting because they know what living under the Russian rule is like. I'm not for getting into a shooting war with the Russians over Ukraine, but the fact is that we have been at "war" with the Russians since 1945 in some way, shape, form, or fashion.
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Whatever you choose to refer to Russians as,.,..they don't have a transvestite in Putin administration and they don't have drag queen story hour going on at their local libraries.

If I was to put a title on the type of government Russia has, I'd call it borderline totalitarian, heavily nationalistic.

The U.S.A. is much more totalitarian than it's ever been and Nationalism is a dirty word to the left that controls the U.S.A.

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

The Russians had won in the first week. There was a negotiated settlement which was the purpose of the special operation. Russia never intended to take the Ukraine. The goal was a neutral Ukraine and an end to the ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russians in the Donbas. There would have been no confrontation at all if the Minsk agreements had been honored. Instead Putin misread the west thinking there was a desire for peace. Instead the light use of force was taken as weakness by us and we stepped in and told the Ukraine to fight to the last Ukrainian. The Russians have still not resorted to total doctrinal war. Putin sees the Ukrainians as fellow Slavs and victims of the west.

You have been so wrong for so long.

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

I really don’t know what you guys are talking about. The Russians are currently attacking Kiev. They might have slowed a couple of hours to allow the logistics to catch up and have lost a few tanks and aircraft but the fact is the Russians are attacking the capital city in the middle of the country. Reports are there has been little resistance in northern Ukraine. We have no idea what the Russians planned and how on track they are. We have Western propaganda telling us how the Ukraine is having success and how the Russians are bogged down. I’d hate to see what was the implied Russian success would look like.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by JamesJr

Originally Posted by Jcubed

That Ukraine doesn't understand the left...they lived under communism...Russians ruled them...why do you think they are fighting so hard?

It's not hard.

That right there is what the Putin puffers on here either fail to comprehend, or else just choose to ignore. Ukraine is not fighting to keep any bio labs, or for the Neo-Nazis, or to drag NATO into a war with Russia. They are fighting because they know what living under the Russian rule is like. I'm not for getting into a shooting war with the Russians over Ukraine, but the fact is that we have been at "war" with the Russians since 1945 in some way, shape, form, or fashion.
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Whatever you choose to refer to Russians as,.,..they don't have a transvestite in Putin administration and they don't have drag queen story hour going on at their local libraries.

If I was to put a title on the type of government Russia has, I'd call it borderline totalitarian, heavily nationalistic.

The U.S.A. is much more totalitarian than it's ever been and Nationalism is a dirty word to the left that controls the U.S.A.

Has nothing to do with a citizen of a sovereign nation defending its borders from an invading army.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

The Russians had won in the first week. There was a negotiated settlement which was the purpose of the special operation. Russia never intended to take the Ukraine. The goal was a neutral Ukraine and an end to the ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russians in the Donbas. There would have been no confrontation at all if the Minsk agreements had been honored. Instead Putin misread the west thinking there was a desire for peace. Instead the light use of force was taken as weakness by us and we stepped in and told the Ukraine to fight to the last Ukrainian. The Russians have still not resorted to total doctrinal war. Putin sees the Ukrainians as fellow Slavs and victims of the west.

You have been so wrong for so long.

But I'm not wrong about you blowing vets.

Bristoe,

I'll ask again...

Do you believe in the legitimacy of borders?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Bristoe,

I'll ask again...

Do you believe in the legitimacy of borders?

What does that got to do with anything? Clearly ur government doesn’t. We’ve invaded numerous sovereign countries over the last couple of decades. We’ve bombed the schit out of a few more. And we don’t defend our own. So how is this question relevant to anything?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

Ok. So we destroyed Cuba at that time?

To your point, we invaded Cuba...they fought back.

Do you think the Cubans should have just surrendered?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Bristoe,

I'll ask again...

Do you believe in the legitimacy of borders?

What does that got to do with anything? Clearly ur government doesn’t. We’ve invaded numerous sovereign countries over the last couple of decades. We’ve bombed the schit out of a few more. And we don’t defend our own. So how is this question relevant to anything?

Connect those dots...

Originally Posted by ribka

The world watched the US defeat a small backward third world country Afghanistan after a 20 year war . Our air dominance helped cinch the victory over the Taliban just like Vietnam lol

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

This is how this is gonna go. The world is watching all of this. Any little cred we had left, if any, is lost over what we are doing. Everyone knows we blew up the Russians pipe line. We are destroying the worlds economy over climate bullchit, yet we sent all that gas into the ocean and atmosphere. Everything we do is one giant hypocrisy. Russia and Ukraine have been on the verge of peace until we pushed hard over and over. I'll say it again. Russia is not good, Ukraine is worse with corruption. We are probably the worst of the 3 at this point. How can you stand behind what this illegal government has done? China is going to come in, land a peace deal between the two and take the next giant leap towards being the worlds only true super power. We are declining and biden has smashed the fast forward button to the point that we are on the verge of total collapse. You somehow have bought into all of this. WW3 seems to be a joke to some of you. Guessing its just old fat keyboard warriors with no children to worry about. I have children to worry about. The last thing I'll allow is a bullchit war drawn up by the evil pricks in nato and the wef that will possibly draw my child into fighting

I will only address "the world is watching."

You are, ironically, correct.

The world is watching and they have seen that Russian military kit is C R A P.

Who will buy it now? Iran, sure. Despots, ok. But Russia has proven in this war its kit is crap. Look at the tanks they have to bring to the fight now.

Air dominance? Nope. Do you think the US Air Force wouldn't have Air dominance after a YEAR?

All Putin has done is screw himself.

Their battle uniforms consisted of sandals and bed sheets.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

Ok. So we destroyed Cuba at that time?

To your point, we invaded Cuba...they fought back.

Do you think the Cubans should have just surrendered?

You aren't very smart and don't know history.

We put a naval blockade around Cuba and they and Russia backed down and removed the missles.

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

The only borders jquebes buds Zero and Bidet believe in are their foreign puppet govts borders.

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

Ok. So we destroyed Cuba at that time?

To your point, we invaded Cuba...they fought back.

Do you think the Cubans should have just surrendered?

You aren't very smart and don't know history.

We put a naval blockade around Cuba and they and Russia backed down and removed the missles.

I'm very aware of what happened.

Answer the questions then think of Ukraine. You may get it.

I believe in the borders that Jefferson Davis established.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Bristoe,

I'll ask again...

Do you believe in the legitimacy of borders?

What does that got to do with anything? Clearly ur government doesn’t. We’ve invaded numerous sovereign countries over the last couple of decades. We’ve bombed the schit out of a few more. And we don’t defend our own. So how is this question relevant to anything?

The border argument and the sanctity of Ukrainian borders is always used by the pro WWIII crowd but they don’t want to discuss the fact that we quit defending borders, at least our borders, so why in the hell should I GAF about Ukrainian borders? I care about our borders! Let Ukraine fund and fight their own border skirmishes…..we need to focus on our borders.

Antelope sniper will be along telling you that our border discussion isn’t relevant and you need to start your own thread about it. They don’t like being shown their hypocrisy but it’s just too easy.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

I believe in the borders that Jefferson Davis established.

Putins enemy Bidet and the US Neonazis don't.

Anyone who believes that there is any legitimate reason at all for the United States to spend money, energy or blood on this thing in Ukraine is stupid.

Looks like WW3 is the response.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1636422247274430468

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Looks like WW3 is the response.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1636422247274430468

If it gets Jag to STFU with the Q-tard stuff, I'm good with it.

Originally Posted by cra1948

Anyone who believes that there is any legitimate reason at all for the United States to spend money, energy or blood on this thing in Ukraine is stupid.

BS. We haven't gotten in another war since the Nuclear War Monger called Trump got in office.

The Neonazis in the US govt and US Wall Street need to grease the skids of the US Military/Industrial Complex.

Wars are fought over money, or resources. Read up on the families owning munitions factories in France, and Germany before WW1

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Looks like WW3 is the response.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1636422247274430468

If it gets Jag to STFU with the Q-tard stuff, I'm good with it.

Ask Rick how to put me on ignore, dumbass.

Of course, if you do you'll be back where you started from. You wouldn't have a clue as to WTH is going on.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

Ok. So we destroyed Cuba at that time?

To your point, we invaded Cuba...they fought back.

Do you think the Cubans should have just surrendered?

You aren't very smart and don't know history.

We put a naval blockade around Cuba and they and Russia backed down and removed the missles.

I'm very aware of what happened.

Answer the questions then think of Ukraine. You may get it.

I don't think that you will ever get it. If the U. S. and the Ukrainian would have done as Cuba did there would be no war now

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

Ok. So we destroyed Cuba at that time?

To your point, we invaded Cuba...they fought back.

Do you think the Cubans should have just surrendered?

You aren't very smart and don't know history.

We put a naval blockade around Cuba and they and Russia backed down and removed the missles.

I'm very aware of what happened.

Answer the questions then think of Ukraine. You may get it.

Jcubed, do you believe the us revolutionary war was justified?

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

Ok. So we destroyed Cuba at that time?

To your point, we invaded Cuba...they fought back.

Do you think the Cubans should have just surrendered?

You aren't very smart and don't know history.

We put a naval blockade around Cuba and they and Russia backed down and removed the missles.

I'm very aware of what happened.

Answer the questions then think of Ukraine. You may get it.

Jcubed, do you believe the us revolutionary war was justified?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

Ok. So we destroyed Cuba at that time?

To your point, we invaded Cuba...they fought back.

Do you think the Cubans should have just surrendered?

You aren't very smart and don't know history.

We put a naval blockade around Cuba and they and Russia backed down and removed the missles.

I'm very aware of what happened.

Answer the questions then think of Ukraine. You may get it.

Jcubed, do you believe the us revolutionary war was justified?

Yes.

Do you believe France was evil for joining our side?

“ US opposes the ceasefire in Ukraine and rejects the proposals put forward by China to resolve the crisis - White House”

That statement tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about the suspected motivations of our government in Ukraine!

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by Jcubed

[quote=jwp475][quote=Jcub]

Do you believe in a nation having borders?

Certain things nations with borders don't allow, just like in the 60s we would not allow Russia to put missles in Cuba

Ok. So we destroyed Cuba at that time?

To your point, we invaded Cuba...they fought back.

Do you think the Cubans should have just surrendered?

You aren't very smart and don't know history.

We put a naval blockade around Cuba and they and Russia backed down and removed the missles.

I'm very aware of what happened.

Answer the questions then think of Ukraine. You may get it.

Jcubed, do you believe the us revolutionary war was justified?

Yes.

Do you believe France was evil for joining our side?

Nope.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

“ US opposes the ceasefire in Ukraine and rejects the proposals put forward by China to resolve the crisis - White House”

That statement tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about the suspected motivations of our government in Ukraine!

YES IT DOES!

Originally Posted by desertoakie

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

“ US opposes the ceasefire in Ukraine and rejects the proposals put forward by China to resolve the crisis - White House”

That statement tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about the suspected motivations of our government in Ukraine!

YES IT DOES!

X2

It’s amazing that some people still cannot connect the dots.

Originally Posted by dassa

Do you believe France was evil for joining our side?

France had LEGITIMATE financial interests in the New World as well as land claims. They were defending their interests as much as they were sticking it to Great Britain…helping the savage Colonialists was a distant 3rd or 4th or 5th reason and not very compelling at that.

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

Pure assumption. What about Ukraine interests, thought this was ALL about Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

Pure assumption. What about Ukraine interests, thought this was ALL about Ukraine.

It is.

Probably why the US isn't in favor.

Russia invaded Ukraine...

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

Wonder what Zelenskyy thinks about the China proposals?

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-rele...infrastructure-systematic-and-widespread

This makes things a lot more complicated for the euro weenies.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably going to advance a little bit, to its border.

But, it was gonna do that anyway.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably might be a good thing to attend a peace conference and see, right? What’s the harm there?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably might be a good thing to attend a peace conference and see, right? What’s the harm there?

What?

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably going to advance a little bit, to its border.

But, it was gonna do that anyway.

Why should Ukraine give up any territory?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably going to advance a little bit, to its border.

But, it was gonna do that anyway.

Why should Ukraine give up any territory?

Cause they ain't got no choice.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably going to advance a little bit, to its border.

But, it was gonna do that anyway.

Why should Ukraine give up any territory?

Because they are drafting 60 and 16 year olds?

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably going to advance a little bit, to its border.

But, it was gonna do that anyway.

Why should Ukraine give up any territory?

Cause they ain't got no choice.

They do.

It's called fighting.

Perhaps you have heard of that...

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably going to advance a little bit, to its border.

But, it was gonna do that anyway.

Why should Ukraine give up any territory?

Cause they ain't got no choice.

They do.

It's called fighting.

Perhaps you have heard of that...

Cuckaine's lost more territory, every time the Russians have decided they would.

They can fight and lose the territory Russia wants ta take, or they can negotiate, and lose the same amount, without fighting and losing.

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably going to advance a little bit, to its border.

But, it was gonna do that anyway.

Why should Ukraine give up any territory?

Cause they ain't got no choice.

They do.

It's called fighting.

Perhaps you have heard of that...

Cuckaine's lost more territory, every time the Russians have decided they would.

They can fight and lose the territory Russia wants ta take, or they can negotiate, and lose the same amount, without fighting and losing.

Sources?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

A ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia is NOT good for America? Why..where is it written that every regional conflict must resolve itself to the benefit of the USA while disregarding the interested and heavily invested parties that have been fighting and dying?

My God man….could you at least try to hide your blood lust?

I wish you guys would stop playing coy and just have the balls to say that you won’t be satisfied until we’ve instigated an undeniable beginning to WWIII. No amount of dead Russian/Ukrainian (same/same) will suffice and this was never about freedom or borders or sovereignty or invaders…..it was ALWAYS about starting WWIII.

The fact that the dominant concern regarding a ceasefire in Ukraine which would potentially save tens of thousands of guys on both sides is how WE the USA won’t get any benefits from their ceasefire is mind blowing to me. I don’t think we DESERVE anything except our money back but if the expectation is that we will gain a steadfast ally out of this then there will be a hell of a lot of disappointed fools worldwide….Ukrainians don’t know what loyalty or friendship means, they have little to no history of such things….😬. Nobody likes Ukrainians.

Quick story about Ukrainians…
When I had my gun shop I had a lot of great customers that would swing by like clockwork. I’d set something aside for the good customers knowing it was something that was in their wheelhouse and giving the loyal customers first crack at the good stuff. I got to know these people pretty well through the years and our conversations covered everything. Two old guys were approaching retirement age and both were bus drivers for Metro in Seattle having done that job for 30+ years. They were telling me one day probably 15+ years ago about how much they hated Ukrainians. They were rude, selfish and everyone of them was predisposed to thievery and lying as a normal course of business (according to the bus drivers). They told me that weekly just like clockwork a bunch of Ukrainians spend the day taking the bus (rarely do they pay) from food bank to food bank collecting as much FREE FOOD and household stuff as they can. They haul their considerable loot back to their welfare paid housing and spend the rest of the day sorting, boxing and packing up the free stuff they got from us. The following day the same big group of people get on the bus with their boxed up loot and take it to the post office and ship those boxes back to friends and family in Ukraine. These are people on public assistance with Louis Vuitton handbags gold and diamond jewelry and their track suit wearing kids usually drive a newer Mercedes or BMW. They’re essentially stealing from our people, stealing from us and using our kindness against us which really pisses me off!

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Sources?

Even the maps from the ministry of propaganda admit Russia owns 1/3 of what usedta be cuckraine.

That area's been gettin bigger, since this started.

Not gonna change.

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Sources?

Even the maps from the ministry of propaganda admit Russia owns 1/3 of what usedta be cuckraine.

That area's been gettin bigger, since this started.

Not gonna change.

I have no blood lust, quite the opposite.

A question you seem to avoid:

Can a nation defend its borders?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

That question's been answered.

Cuckraine can't defend its borders.

That's why they's losin.

Look at the details of any "agreement. "

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

That question's been answered.

Cuckraine can't defend its borders.

That's why they's losin.

So what's the problem?

3 days has turned into a lot longer...for Russia.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

That question's been answered.

Cuckraine can't defend its borders.

That's why they's losin.

So what's the problem?

The problem is, the US is takin money from its citizens, and sendin it ta cuckraine, and it got no business doin that.

Other than that, it's just another day.

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

That question's been answered.

Cuckraine can't defend its borders.

That's why they's losin.

So what's the problem?

The problem is, the US is takin money from its citizens, and sendin it ta cuckraine, and it got no business doin that.

Other than that, it's just another day.

I guess that is one way to look at it.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Sources?

Even the maps from the ministry of propaganda admit Russia owns 1/3 of what usedta be cuckraine.

That area's been gettin bigger, since this started.

Not gonna change.

I have no blood lust, quite the opposite.

A question you seem to avoid:

Can a nation defend its borders?

You’re one stupid son of a bitch.

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

So youre telling me that the US in not responsible for dead Ukraines?

Russia has maintain for over a decade that they would not tolerate a country on their border joining NATO The U. S. had 6 biological weapons labd operating in the Ukraine.

The U. S. Is definitely responsible for thus war as they pushed Ukraine to join NATO and we financed the biological weapons lab.

Spot on

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

So youre telling me that the US in not responsible for dead Ukraines?

Russia has maintain for over a decade that they would not tolerate a country on their border joining NATO The U. S. had 6 biological weapons labd operating in the Ukraine.

The U. S. Is definitely responsible for thus war as they pushed Ukraine to join NATO and we financed the biological weapons lab.

Sober up, bud.

You are one clueless douchebag

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by T_O_M

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Difficult to tell. I would say neither side is winning, both sides are losing. Lot of $$s, lot of lives.

What does Putin get out of Ukraine if he wins that is worth the cost? Ukraine itself .. is it worth this? I can't see how. Russians are still shooting though. So logically Ukraine must be a stepping stone to something that does give it sufficient value. What is that unspoken end goal?

Putin gets a little breathing room from Nato. No matter what we all think, Ukraine was moving towards nato. We already had our presence very known inside of Ukraine, right on Russias door step. Judging off how we have been behaving since this war started, I think Russia has much more to fear with us than we do with them. We are the aggressors, we are the instigators

Holy Beaten Wife Syndrom.

The Orcs invaded and are trying to commit genocide.

It's not complicated and you wanting to blame the USA is classic Beaten Wife Syndrome.

So youre telling me that the US in not responsible for dead Ukraines?

Russia has maintain for over a decade that they would not tolerate a country on their border joining NATO The U. S. had 6 biological weapons labd operating in the Ukraine.

The U. S. Is definitely responsible for thus war as they pushed Ukraine to join NATO and we financed the biological weapons lab.

Sober up, bud.

You are one clueless douchebag

Ok.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Sources?

Even the maps from the ministry of propaganda admit Russia owns 1/3 of what usedta be cuckraine.

That area's been gettin bigger, since this started.

Not gonna change.

I have no blood lust, quite the opposite.

A question you seem to avoid:

Can a nation defend its borders?

You’re one stupid son of a bitch.

AMEN

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably going to advance a little bit, to its border.

But, it was gonna do that anyway.

Why should Ukraine give up any territory?

Cause they ain't got no choice.

Well, there is that fact.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I haven't read the proposed agreement but I can guarantee you if Xi and Putin want it, it's not good for the US.

The China proposal said the sovereignty of all countries should be upheld.

So Russia withdraws to its border?

Probably going to advance a little bit, to its border.

But, it was gonna do that anyway.

Why should Ukraine give up any territory?

Cause they ain't got no choice.

Well, there is that fact.

No, it isnt.

Jag,

You are scared too talk about that 22 trillion in gold.

Wanna talk?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

I don’t know. Can they?

Ask for help in doing so?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

I don’t know. Can they?

Well, you are seeing it...as much as you want them to fail

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

I don’t know. Can they?

Well, you are seeing it...as much as you want them to fail

Yes, they are putting my family at risk. I would burn down that entire country before I would harm one single hair on the head of my children.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

I don’t know. Can they?

Well, you are seeing it...as much as you want them to fail

Yes, they are putting my family at risk. I would burn down that entire country before I would harm one single hair in the hair of my children.

Ok.

You vote for Bush II?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

I don’t know. Can they?

Well, you are seeing it...as much as you want them to fail

Yes, they are putting my family at risk. I would burn down that entire country before I would harm one single hair in the hair of my children.

Ok.

You vote for Bush II?

Nope.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

I don’t know. Can they?

Well, you are seeing it...as much as you want them to fail

Yes, they are putting my family at risk. I would burn down that entire country before I would harm one single hair on the head of my children.

We aren't boots on the ground. Just giving money and arms. Dassa was asking those questions.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

I don’t know. Can they?

Well, you are seeing it...as much as you want them to fail

Yes, they are putting my family at risk. I would burn down that entire country before I would harm one single hair in the hair of my children.

Ok.

You vote for Bush II?

Nope.

Good man.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

I don’t know. Can they?

Well, you are seeing it...as much as you want them to fail

Yes, they are putting my family at risk. I would burn down that entire country before I would harm one single hair on the head of my children.

We aren't boots on the ground. Just giving money and arms. Dassa was asking those questions.

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can a nation defend its borders?

I guess that depends on the nation in question. Can a nation defend its borders if that nation has little desire to defend those borders? Can a nation that has done little to bolster their border security and has allowed complacency and apathy to replace martial readiness defend their borders? Can a sovereign nation expect other sovereign nations to fund, fight and die for the border sovereignty of a nation that didn’t value sovereignty enough to prepare for and protect it?

The answer to the above questions is NO.

Can a nation that has repeatedly voted to NOT join NATO, thereby exempting themselves from the (financial, etc) obligations and responsibilities that entails, expect to be treated as a NATO member when they aren’t? They have NO “skin in the game” but they expect to be treated as equals? GMAFB

I think your question is better phrased as….Does a nation have the right to defend their borders? The answer is an unqualified YES! All sovereign nations have the right to defend their borders.

Whether or not they CAN defend their borders is up to them. It’s up to each individual sovereign nation to prepare for, fund and implement their nation’s border security plan. It’s not the responsibility of the USA to protect the borders of every pissant Eastern European sh.ithole that never gave a moment’s thought to their own borders until it’s too late.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

I don’t know. Can they?

Well, you are seeing it...as much as you want them to fail

Yes, they are putting my family at risk. I would burn down that entire country before I would harm one single hair on the head of my children.

We aren't boots on the ground. Just giving money and arms. Dassa was asking those questions.

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

So?

Russia just downed our drone in international airspace.

Probably hoping it would agitate and take away from a 3 day war into over a year of ineptitude.

Ymnv

Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76

Originally Posted by desertoakie

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

“ US opposes the ceasefire in Ukraine and rejects the proposals put forward by China to resolve the crisis - White House”

That statement tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about the suspected motivations of our government in Ukraine!

YES IT DOES!

X2

It’s amazing that some people still cannot connect the dots.

BOOM.

And no matter how well you spell it out for them.. Why?

And how do you know that?

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76

Originally Posted by desertoakie

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

“ US opposes the ceasefire in Ukraine and rejects the proposals put forward by China to resolve the crisis - White House”

That statement tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about the suspected motivations of our government in Ukraine!

YES IT DOES!

X2

It’s amazing that some people still cannot connect the dots.

BOOM.

And no matter how well you spell it out for them.. Why?

Read that verse and ponder it HARD.

Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Sources?

Even the maps from the ministry of propaganda admit Russia owns 1/3 of what usedta be cuckraine.

That area's been gettin bigger, since this started.

Not gonna change.

I have no blood lust, quite the opposite.

A question you seem to avoid:

Can a nation defend its borders?

You’re one stupid son of a bitch.

This ^^^^^ is part of

The Great Awakening

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Sources?

Even the maps from the ministry of propaganda admit Russia owns 1/3 of what usedta be cuckraine.

That area's been gettin bigger, since this started.

Not gonna change.

I have no blood lust, quite the opposite.

A question you seem to avoid:

Can a nation defend its borders?

You’re one stupid son of a bitch.

This ^^^^^ is part of

The Great Awakening

Wow.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

So, Russia committed acts of war literally every day of the Vietnam war, gotcha. 😉

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

So, Russia committed acts of war literally every day of the Vietnam war, gotcha. 😉

It is hard to realize...but they are our friends with China now...

Don't forget Iran!

By the White House denying interest in piece negotiation it confirms my opinion that since 2014, maybe earlier, the goal was to replace Russian leadership to get them on board with the NWO goal.

President Trump got in the way. So the DC Swamp then began an electronic assassination of Trump to enable nothing short of a political coup which the DC Swamp achieved. The planned release of c19 worked its magic where a good portion of the US population was deceived into trusting the US Government <DC Swamp> to care for their wellbeing. It worked!

Once Trump was gone, back to the plan of deposing Putin. The DC Swamp, Bankers, Monied Interests called the Military Industrial Complex will not allow the Russia/Ukraine war to be interrupted via piece negotiations to prevent the NWO goal from being achieved.

Sadly, people have died to make these goals happen, more like murdered in some of the c19 actions taken in the US, and there isn't a damn thing We The People can do about it.

The DC Swamp has never been more fearless and enabled than they are presently.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

So, Russia committed acts of war literally every day of the Vietnam war, gotcha. 😉

The Soviet Union did. Guess what? A Ukrainian was premier of the Soviet Union when we started our involvement there.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

By the White House denying interest in piece negotiation it confirms my opinion that since 2014, maybe earlier, the goal was to replace Russian leadership to get them on board with the NWO goal.

President Trump got in the way. So the DC Swamp then began an electronic assassination of Trump to enable nothing short of a political coup which the DC Swamp achieved. The planned release of c19 worked its magic where a good portion of the US population was deceived into trusting the US Government <DC Swamp> to care for their wellbeing. It worked!

Once Trump was gone, back to the plan of deposing Putin. The DC Swamp, Bankers, Monied Interests called the Military Industrial Complex will not allow the Russia/Ukraine war to be interrupted via piece negotiations to prevent the NWO goal from being achieved.

Sadly, people have died to make these goals happen, more like murdered in some of the c19 actions taken in the US, and there isn't a damn thing We The People can do about it.

The DC Swamp has never been more fearless and enabled than they are presently.

Why?

Didn't LBJ kill Kennedy? Seems the swamp would have been more powerful...Trump is still alive.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

So, Russia committed acts of war literally every day of the Vietnam war, gotcha. 😉

Yep And in Afghanistan just like we did to them when they were there.

Proxy wars are nothing new.

J, old fashioned assassination of a sitting President <Trump> was too risky for the DC Swamp.

There is a new assassination tool now called MSM and this thing called Social Media. Very powerful tools that worked very well to discredit, get rid of Trump. Via controlling the information the public was fed.

Disagree if ya want, but it's accurate.

To answer the OP's question. The RUSSIANS are winning this defacto, proxy war!

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

So, Russia committed acts of war literally every day of the Vietnam war, gotcha. 😉

Exactly! There is a certain expectation that our enemies will work together against us when we’re involved in military action somewhere in the world and we do the same thing. It’s been happening for thousands of years and it’ll continue to happen but the worry is always that a single incident can ignite a far bigger war.

My concern with this is just how bad the the elite want war, control and population reduction and nothing is too much for them. My distrust of my government has me extremely concerned with the decisions being made. It’s truly a clown world that is anything BUT business as usual.

The White House literally had a statement AGAINST a ceasefire in Ukraine!…….let that sink in…🤬

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

So, Russia committed acts of war literally every day of the Vietnam war, gotcha. 😉

Exactly! There is a certain expectation that our enemies will work together against us when we’re involved in military action somewhere in the world and we do the same thing. It’s been happening for thousands of years and it’ll continue to happen but the worry is always that a single incident can ignite a far bigger war.

My concern with this is just how bad the the elite want war, control and population reduction and nothing is too much for them. My distrust of my government has me extremely concerned with the decisions being made. It’s truly a clown world that is anything BUT business as usual.

The White House literally had a statement AGAINST a ceasefire in Ukraine!…….let that sink in…🤬

And the head NATO puke said that no matter what happens, Ukraine would become a part of NATO.

He's pushing for the Nuclear War.

We better let them nazi sum beaches join the armed forces as trainers/ consultants before the bear 🐻 kills em all.

Never seen such an obvious dominance of one country over another have as much development as varnishing my irrigation trailer with spar varnish in 30 degrees F and watching it dry.

Originally Posted by Angus1895

We better let them nazi sum beaches join the armed forces as trainers/ consultants before the bear 🐻 kills em all.

Never seen such an obvious dominance of one country over another have as much development as varnishing my irrigation trailer with spar varnish in 30 degrees F and watching it dry.

What?

Originally Posted by jwp475

The real winner is the arms dealers

Short term, Ill agree this is close to the limit on winners regarding the war in Ukraine.

The list of losers is longer than any of us can comprehend.

To my simple way of thinking, lot of folks from varying backgrounds are needlessly ending up dead. Seems like if the Attrition was taking place at the very top of the chain of command including behind the scenes, the world just might be a happier & safer place.

Originally Posted by Hunterapp

Originally Posted by jwp475

The real winner is the arms dealers

Short term, Ill agree this is close to the limit on winners regarding the war in Ukraine.

The list of losers is longer than any of us can comprehend.

To my simple way of thinking, lot of folks from varying backgrounds are needlessly ending up dead. Seems like if the Attrition was taking place at the very top of the chain of command including behind the scenes, the world just might be a happier & safer place.

Sadly, dead is the answer to most questions.

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

Go on...

I'm listening.

U crazy

The Bear 🐻 is playing the world……

Utter domination…….

Can whip gay nazis…….

Without much really happening…..

The fake news is hiding that they won three days in…….

Where U been?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

Go on...

I'm listening.

Apparently not.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

Go on...

I'm listening.

Apparently not.

Oh, I am. You just haven't said anything.

Do you think a nation can defend its borders?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

Go on...

I'm listening.

Apparently not.

😆

Sober up, bud.[/quote]
You are one clueless douchebag[/quote]

Ok.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?[/quote]
Literally no one stated they couldnt. This is a dumb question. Ukraine is free as hell to defend itself, by itself

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

So, Russia committed acts of war literally every day of the Vietnam war, gotcha. 😉

Exactly! There is a certain expectation that our enemies will work together against us when we’re involved in military action somewhere in the world and we do the same thing. It’s been happening for thousands of years and it’ll continue to happen but the worry is always that a single incident can ignite a far bigger war.

My concern with this is just how bad the the elite want war, control and population reduction and nothing is too much for them. My distrust of my government has me extremely concerned with the decisions being made. It’s truly a clown world that is anything BUT business as usual.

The White House literally had a statement AGAINST a ceasefire in Ukraine!…….let that sink in…🤬

You are correct, but when it happens, it isnt announced every day by the politicians in charge

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Sober up, bud.

You are one clueless douchebag[/quote]

Ok.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?[/quote]
Literally no one stated they couldnt. This is a dumb question. Ukraine is free as hell to defend itself, by itself[/quote]

So, can they ask for help while defending?

Originally Posted by Angus1895

U crazy

The Bear 🐻 is playing the world……

Utter domination…….

Can whip gay nazis…….

Without much really happening…..

The fake news is hiding that they won three days in…….

Where U been?

Does anyone else ever understand what ths actual f uck this dude is talking about?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Sober up, bud.

You are one clueless douchebag

Ok.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?[/quote]
Literally no one stated they couldnt. This is a dumb question. Ukraine is free as hell to defend itself, by itself[/quote]

So, can they ask for help while defending?[/quote]
Sure can and we should say no. If we dont, thats how very large wars get rolling amd many die. Wait, just like whats happening right now

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Sober up, bud.

You are one clueless douchebag

Ok.

So, can a sovereign nation defend its borders?

Literally no one stated they couldnt. This is a dumb question. Ukraine is free as hell to defend itself, by itself[/quote]

So, can they ask for help while defending?[/quote]
Sure can and we should say no. If we dont, thats how very large wars get rolling amd many die. Wait, just like whats happening right now[/quote]

So, besides your quoting ability, what is the problem?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

It takes a special breed of retard to cheer the Orc downing USAF aircraft and then whimpering about the US losing reserve currency status.

The Orcs winning in Ukraine is a real threat to the US Dollars staus.

Originally Posted by RufusG

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by readonly

From the time Russia entered the Crimea 8 years ago, the plan was never to stop with Ukraine. Putin wants to re-establish the borders of the USSR. His incompetence in Ukraine makes it clear that will never happen. Militarily this is a disgrace for Russia. Overall, Russia is losing regardless of what happens to Ukraine as they will not be able to push past Ukraine, won't even conquer the country, and at the rate it's going, won't even be able to keep Crimea.

The biggest shock out of all of this, after the initial shock of Russian incompetence in prosecuting the war, is that Putin has been able to keep his stranglehold on power in Russia this long despite the catastrophic failures of his military in Ukraine. Three months in, I figured he was on the ropes and would be toppled at any time. A year in, there's no outward sign of that happening anytime soon.

It is a false analogy to making any comparison to the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. That was a catastrophic blunder at the policy level. Our military did everything that was asked of it, and the actual withdrawal itself under those conditions was an incredible feat. The policy failure did embolden our enemies, although Putin began his push for Ukraine 9 years ago so I don't think it was much of a factor in the invasion of Ukraine. The Russian military though has been exposed and incompetent and poorly armed. The only threat is in whatever nuclear capabilities they have. I have no inside knowledge but suspect that NATO is constantly wargaming a lightening reaction to neuter those capabilities at warp speed if worse comes to worst.

Good post, a thinker is a rarity here.

If by "thinking" you mean copying and pasting the State Dept. talking points, spot on.

Wow, you two joined the same year and your post counts are only one post apart. Crazy coincidence.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

Go on...

I'm listening.

Apparently not.

Oh, I am. You just haven't said anything.

Do you think a nation can defend its borders?

Yes, a country can. And when they persecute people living within this borders, the people have a right to fight to gain their independence. And if a foreign country has an interest in seeing those people gain their independence, they can join the fight. And if another country has an interest in continuing to oppress those people, they, too can join in.

The question is, why does the us govt (and you) insist on opposing the people living in eastern Ukraine?

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

Go on...

I'm listening.

Apparently not.

Oh, I am. You just haven't said anything.

Do you think a nation can defend its borders?

Yes, a country can. And when they persecute people living within this borders, the people have a right to fight to gain their independence. And if a foreign country has an interest in seeing those people gain their independence, they can join the fight. And if another country has an interest in continuing to oppress those people, they, too can join in.

The question is, why does the us govt (and you) insist on opposing the people living in eastern Ukraine?

You have made a lot of suppositions.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

Go on...

I'm listening.

Apparently not.

Oh, I am. You just haven't said anything.

Do you think a nation can defend its borders?

Yes, a country can. And when they persecute people living within this borders, the people have a right to fight to gain their independence. And if a foreign country has an interest in seeing those people gain their independence, they can join the fight. And if another country has an interest in continuing to oppress those people, they, too can join in.

The question is, why does the us govt (and you) insist on opposing the people living in eastern Ukraine?

You have made a lot of suppositions.

When the wall fell...which way did they run?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

It takes a special breed of retard to cheer the Orc downing USAF aircraft and then whimpering about the US losing reserve currency status.

The Orcs winning in Ukraine is a real threat to the US Dollars staus.

They’re going to win in Ukraine and there is nothing we can do to stop it. They were always going to do so. The dollar would have been fine had we not pushed all our chips in on a pair of twos. But now, when we lose, as we were always destined to do, it will be catastrophic. It didn’t have to be that way, but dumbass Biden and all of you dumbass cheerleaders, have made it that way.

I will just leave this here for the tirggering.

TRIGGER WARNING

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

It takes a special breed of retard to cheer the Orc downing USAF aircraft and then whimpering about the US losing reserve currency status.

The Orcs winning in Ukraine is a real threat to the US Dollars staus.

the self imposed Biden US sanctions are dumb dumb. We drove other countries to go to Russia and China much like you were driven to the drag queen Zelenskiy. lol

ironic the anti American Biden voters like you celebrated the airfarce shooting down 2 US weather balloons over international air space off of our coast

slava ukraine

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

Go on...

I'm listening.

Apparently not.

Oh, I am. You just haven't said anything.

Do you think a nation can defend its borders?

Yes, a country can. And when they persecute people living within this borders, the people have a right to fight to gain their independence. And if a foreign country has an interest in seeing those people gain their independence, they can join the fight. And if another country has an interest in continuing to oppress those people, they, too can join in.

The question is, why does the us govt (and you) insist on opposing the people living in eastern Ukraine?

You have made a lot of suppositions.

When the wall fell...which way did they run?

When the cia staged the Ukrainian revolution in 2014, which way did the donbass vote to go?

(The people in question didn't run in any direction when the wall fell. They stayed in their homes)

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

You’d be glad to fight a foreign invasion except for….

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

You’d be glad to fight a foreign invasion except for….

Sorry, I'm not fighting for San Fran, Chicago, D.C., or Detroit.

Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Arkansas, et al, HELL YES.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

Wow.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

It takes a special breed of retard to cheer the Orc downing USAF aircraft and then whimpering about the US losing reserve currency status.

The Orcs winning in Ukraine is a real threat to the US Dollars staus.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

They’re going to win in Ukraine and there is nothing we can do to stop it. They were always going to do so. The dollar would have been fine had we not pushed all our chips in on a pair of twos. But now, when we lose, as we were always destined to do, it will be catastrophic. It didn’t have to be that way, but dumbass Biden and all of you dumbass cheerleaders, have made it that way.

Apeasers don't get to have the World Reserve Currency status.

Even children know nobody trusts those that kneel to a bully.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

You’d be glad to fight a foreign invasion except for….

Sorry, I'm not fighting for San Fran, Chicago, D.C., or Detroit.

Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Arkansas, et al, HELL YES.

So you won't fight for the United States, you know those guys who gave all and are buried in such places as Arlington?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

You’d be glad to fight a foreign invasion except for….

Sorry, I'm not fighting for San Fran, Chicago, D.C., or Detroit.

Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Arkansas, et al, HELL YES.

So you won't fight for the United States, you know those guys who gave all and are buried in such places as Arlington?

Correct, not ever in a foreign country or our coastal bastions of idiocy or our urban hell holes. Not going to do it. I do not support foreign war. I am sorry for those drafted against their will.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

You’d be glad to fight a foreign invasion except for….

Sorry, I'm not fighting for San Fran, Chicago, D.C., or Detroit.

Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Arkansas, et al, HELL YES.

Atta boy, Hastings. True Merican.

“I’ll fight an invasion except for “….

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

You’d be glad to fight a foreign invasion except for….

Sorry, I'm not fighting for San Fran, Chicago, D.C., or Detroit.

Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Arkansas, et al, HELL YES.

So you won't fight for the United States, you know those guys who gave all and are buried in such places as Arlington?

Correct, not ever in a foreign country or our coastal bastions of idiocy or our urban hell holes. Not going to do it. I do not support foreign war. I am sorry for those drafted against their will.

And how many have been drafted lately?

I dunno who's really winning , but I do know that the 'Merican people are losing.......................billions.

To a thoroughly corrupt regime & leadership who are getting rich & will bail to sanctuary when the heat gets too high.

MM

Here's your POS hero the Zero, Houstless

No worries our army of liberal leftists will bulls h I t e m to death if we’re ever attacked.

Originally Posted by MontanaMan

I dunno who's really winning , but I do know that the 'Merican people are losing.......................billions.

To a thoroughly corrupt regime & leadership who are getting rich & will bail to sanctuary when the heat gets too high.

MM

Vote em out.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

We are providing intelligence and targeting data. We have committed acts of war against Russia.

So, Russia committed acts of war literally every day of the Vietnam war, gotcha. 😉

We also saw Russian involvement in Iraq.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

And how many have been drafted lately?

Now that will be a circus if they try that. I was born in 52, there were a bunch of my cohorts that got caught up in that. Especially the ones from the late 1940s and up to 1952 or 1953. I was able to avoid it.

If the draft were to be reinstituted and all the girls and girly men were called up you would see a revolution that would make the anti-Vietnam war/draft riots pale in comparison.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

And how many have been drafted lately?

Now that will be a circus if they try that. I was born in 52, there were a bunch of my cohorts that got caught up in that. Especially the ones from the late 1940s and up to 1952 or 1953. I was able to avoid it.

If the draft were to be reinstituted and all the girls and girly men were called up you would see a revolution that would make the anti-Vietnam war/draft riots pale in comparison.

So you feel sorry for those who haven’t been drafted lately but might be.

Okay.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

It takes a special breed of retard to cheer the Orc downing USAF aircraft and then whimpering about the US losing reserve currency status.

The Orcs winning in Ukraine is a real threat to the US Dollars staus.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

They’re going to win in Ukraine and there is nothing we can do to stop it. They were always going to do so. The dollar would have been fine had we not pushed all our chips in on a pair of twos. But now, when we lose, as we were always destined to do, it will be catastrophic. It didn’t have to be that way, but dumbass Biden and all of you dumbass cheerleaders, have made it that way.

Apeasers don't get to have the World Reserve Currency status.

Even children know nobody trusts those that kneel to a bully.

You’re so stupid. It’s not appeasement if you don’t really care that much if the bully beats up some guy across town.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by MontanaMan

I dunno who's really winning , but I do know that the 'Merican people are losing.......................billions.

To a thoroughly corrupt regime & leadership who are getting rich & will bail to sanctuary when the heat gets too high.

MM

Vote em out.

Lmao, dude really just said that. Thats all i needed to hear

Funny thing. The west totally disconnected Russia from its banking system about a year before it collapsed.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

It takes a special breed of retard to cheer the Orc downing USAF aircraft and then whimpering about the US losing reserve currency status.

The Orcs winning in Ukraine is a real threat to the US Dollars staus.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

They’re going to win in Ukraine and there is nothing we can do to stop it. They were always going to do so. The dollar would have been fine had we not pushed all our chips in on a pair of twos. But now, when we lose, as we were always destined to do, it will be catastrophic. It didn’t have to be that way, but dumbass Biden and all of you dumbass cheerleaders, have made it that way.

Apeasers don't get to have the World Reserve Currency status.

Even children know nobody trusts those that kneel to a bully.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You’re so stupid. It’s not appeasement if you don’t really care that much if the bully beats up some guy across town.

You're an appeaser controlled by your fear of a bully and hatred of the USA.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Yes, they are putting my family at risk. I would burn down that entire country before I would harm one single hair on the head of my children.

The Biden Crime Family.

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by MontanaMan

I dunno who's really winning , but I do know that the 'Merican people are losing.......................billions.

To a thoroughly corrupt regime & leadership who are getting rich & will bail to sanctuary when the heat gets too high.

MM

Vote em out.

Lmao, dude really just said that. Thats all i needed to hear

You dont understand sarcamn?

There is no path for Ukraine they will be defeated by Russia.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

The biggest loser when it is all said and done will be the US dollar as the reserve currency of the world. And of course, all of us. The biggest cheerleaders on this board will rue the day Biden and company chose to try and bleed Russia over this mess.

It takes a special breed of retard to cheer the Orc downing USAF aircraft and then whimpering about the US losing reserve currency status.

The Orcs winning in Ukraine is a real threat to the US Dollars staus.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

They’re going to win in Ukraine and there is nothing we can do to stop it. They were always going to do so. The dollar would have been fine had we not pushed all our chips in on a pair of twos. But now, when we lose, as we were always destined to do, it will be catastrophic. It didn’t have to be that way, but dumbass Biden and all of you dumbass cheerleaders, have made it that way.

Apeasers don't get to have the World Reserve Currency status.

Even children know nobody trusts those that kneel to a bully.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You’re so stupid. It’s not appeasement if you don’t really care that much if the bully beats up some guy across town.

You're an appeaser controlled by your fear of a bully and hatred of the USA.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Yes, they are putting my family at risk. I would burn down that entire country before I would harm one single hair on the head of my children.

Go to bed. You’re drunk.

I will take that bet……

I bet Ukraine wins……

But I am a Vikings Fan!

RIP Coach Grant

Poland is sending the first MiG 29s now.

There is a better than average chance that these MiGs have the ability to drop JDAM-ER.

BOOM.

I’m still waiting for the Border Question to be Answered..

Maybe the Lack of a Answer lies with the Fact that this Country doesn’t have any Borders to Defend ..

Or could it have something to do with John Lenin.

Originally Posted by Angus1895

I will take that bet……

I bet Ukraine wins……

But I am a Vikings Fan!

RIP Coach Grant

Guess thats the first thing we have in common. Life long vikings fan here

It’s never not funny (to steal an expression from Stick) to see some of you bozos arguing about this Ukrainian thing like it’s anything other than a big scam to suck off US taxpayers money for the Biden cartel. Really, you babble about borders and right and wrong….sovereignty, that sort of schitt… what are you, stupid? You’ve got a couple of Eastern European thugs putting on a show to draw down money that will be split three ways: Putin’s share, Zelensky’s share and Biden’s share, all at the cost of a few hundred thousand lives which mean nothing to those guys, nothing. They will all die rich and comfortable and, if you live that long, you’ll go to your grave arguing about who a was right and who was wrong. Do you even understand the concept of moral values? Do you even realize those people do not operate on the same value foundation you do? This is not a “war” with a good side and a bad side. This is a tugging international chi mpout to distract all you Walmart employees while the thieves take all the goods out the back.

Originally Posted by cra1948

It’s never not funny (to steal an expression from Stick) to see some of you bozos arguing about this Ukrainian thing like it’s anything other than a big scam to suck off US taxpayers money for the Biden cartel. Really, you babble about borders and right and wrong….sovereignty, that sort of schitt… what are you, stupid? You’ve got a couple of Eastern European thugs putting on a show to draw down money that will be split three ways: Putin’s share, Zelensky’s share and Biden’s share, all at the cost of a few hundred thousand lives which mean nothing to those guys, nothing. They will all die rich and comfortable and, if you live that long, you’ll go to your grave arguing about who a was right and who was wrong. Do you even understand the concept of moral values? Do you even realize those people do not operate on the same value foundation you do? This is not a “war” with a good side and a bad side. This is a tugging international chi mpout to distract all you Walmart employees while the thieves take all the goods out the back.

The money is just a sideshow.

The reality is much more disturbing than a money grab.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

And how many have been drafted lately?

Now that will be a circus if they try that. I was born in 52, there were a bunch of my cohorts that got caught up in that. Especially the ones from the late 1940s and up to 1952 or 1953. I was able to avoid it.

If the draft were to be reinstituted and all the girls and girly men were called up you would see a revolution that would make the anti-Vietnam war/draft riots pale in comparison.

So you feel sorry for those who haven’t been drafted lately but might be.

Okay.

I do not support involuntary servitude except as punishment for a crime.

I don't know what these Uketards think Ukraine is going to look like, economically or politically, if they do "win".

It's not a homogenous society so it isn't going to be "free" by any stretch of the imagination except maybe an LGBT imagination. It's already devolved into a genocidal police state.

The economy will never in any of our lifetimes be "rebuilt" due to the loss of population and the shear destruction of property.

For today <now> Russia is winning, but many humans have lost their lives.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I don't know what these Uketards think Ukraine is going to look like, economically or politically, if they do "win".

It's not a homogenous society so it isn't going to be "free" by any stretch of the imagination except maybe an LGBT imagination. It's already devolved into a genocidal police state.

The economy will never in any of our lifetimes be "rebuilt" due to the loss of population and the shear destruction of property.

The UN war crimes paper I posted (that was ignored) will be the basis to use Russian funds seized from banks to rebuild

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I don't know what these Uketards think Ukraine is going to look like, economically or politically, if they do "win".

It's not a homogenous society so it isn't going to be "free" by any stretch of the imagination except maybe an LGBT imagination. It's already devolved into a genocidal police state.

The economy will never in any of our lifetimes be "rebuilt" due to the loss of population and the shear destruction of property.

The UN war crimes paper I posted (that was ignored) will be the basis to use Russian funds seized from banks to rebuild

LOL! That money has already been spent and wasn't a drop in the bucket compared to what the Ukraine is going to need! LOL!

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I don't know what these Uketards think Ukraine is going to look like, economically or politically, if they do "win".

It's not a homogenous society so it isn't going to be "free" by any stretch of the imagination except maybe an LGBT imagination. It's already devolved into a genocidal police state.

The economy will never in any of our lifetimes be "rebuilt" due to the loss of population and the shear destruction of property.

The UN war crimes paper I posted (that was ignored) will be the basis to use Russian funds seized from banks to rebuild

Lolol

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Lolol

Yeah, super funny.

war crimes report

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Lolol

Yeah, super funny.

war crimes report

All sides accuse the other of war crimes. War is a crime. So your link is a big nothingburger.

Now, on to your assertion that Russia will somehow pay to rebuild parts of Ukraine they don't conquer. That's hilarious!

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I don't know what these Uketards think Ukraine is going to look like, economically or politically, if they do "win".

It's not a homogenous society so it isn't going to be "free" by any stretch of the imagination except maybe an LGBT imagination. It's already devolved into a genocidal police state.

The economy will never in any of our lifetimes be "rebuilt" due to the loss of population and the shear destruction of property.

Truth & fact..................reality.

MM

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

I would be perfectly happy if Conservative Caucasians carved themselves out a country of about 40 million people and gave the rest of the place to the leftists. It won't happen. But it would be good to know that the whole country didn't have to get turned to schitt,..which is definitely happening.

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

And how many have been drafted lately?

Now that will be a circus if they try that. I was born in 52, there were a bunch of my cohorts that got caught up in that. Especially the ones from the late 1940s and up to 1952 or 1953. I was able to avoid it.

If the draft were to be reinstituted and all the girls and girly men were called up you would see a revolution that would make the anti-Vietnam war/draft riots pale in comparison.

So you feel sorry for those who haven’t been drafted lately but might be.

Okay.

Originally Posted by Hastings

I do not support involuntary servitude except as punishment for a crime.

Sure you do, with both your money and your prayers.

Your beloved Orc Army is mostly conscripts.

You're fine with others being conscripted and enjoy the show.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

It's not amazing. But I'd go farther back. What has our country gained since 1865?

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

It's not amazing. But I'd go farther back. What has our country gained since 1865?

Leader of the free world for one.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

It's not amazing. But I'd go farther back. What has our country gained since 1865?

Leader of the free world for one.

It's way past time to put away childish perspectives.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

It's not amazing. But I'd go farther back. What has our country gained since 1865?

Leader of the free world for one.

It's way past time to put away childish perspectives.

Childish perspectives like yours concerning isolationism in today’s world?

You’re way over your head again as usual.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Lolol

Yeah, super funny.

war crimes report

All sides accuse the other of war crimes. War is a crime. So your link is a big nothingburger.

Now, on to your assertion that Russia will somehow pay to rebuild parts of Ukraine they don't conquer. That's hilarious!

One can make a compelling argument that freezing the funds of Russian citizens isn't "right" but they've already done it. If I had a million or a billion dollars basically taken from my bank account, hilarious probably isn't the word I'd use to describe it.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's way past time to put away childish perspectives.

Your tells are always funny.

[Linked Image from pbs.twimg.com]

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Tyrone

All sides accuse the other of war crimes. War is a crime. So your link is a big nothingburger.

Now, on to your assertion that Russia will somehow pay to rebuild parts of Ukraine they don't conquer. That's hilarious!

One can make a compelling argument that freezing the funds of Russian citizens isn't "right" but they've already done it. If I had a million or a billion dollars basically taken from my bank account, hilarious probably isn't the word I'd use to describe it.

I'm not making any argument except that you are horrible at math.

One of your favorite news sources, CNN, says $58 Billion in Russian assets have been confiscated. https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/09/politics/russian-oligarchs-frozen-repo/index.html

The war isn't even half over and already they are throwing numbers around like $750 Billion.
https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...ne-the-worlds-largest-construction-site/

Do you understand what an idiot you are?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's way past time to put away childish perspectives.

Your tells are always funny.

[Linked Image from pbs.twimg.com]

Speaking of children.
One theory of phags is that they experienced childhood trauma and are locked at that mental age. In Johnny BJ's case, about 9yo.

Reality, Jack

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Lolol

Yeah, super funny.

war crimes report

All sides accuse the other of war crimes. War is a crime. So your link is a big nothingburger.

Now, on to your assertion that Russia will somehow pay to rebuild parts of Ukraine they don't conquer. That's hilarious!

This

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

It's not amazing. But I'd go farther back. What has our country gained since 1865?

Leader of the free world for one.

Lmfao! You need a wake up call. Fuggin clueless

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

It's not amazing. But I'd go farther back. What has our country gained since 1865?

Leader of the free world for one.

We havent been free in a long ass time and we sure as chit arent spreading freedom around the world. Just death amd detruction

Not surprised ol toots supports the US ( LEADER OF The FREE WORLD) spreading this in our military

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

It's not amazing. But I'd go farther back. What has our country gained since 1865?

Leader of the free world for one.

Our govt arresting christians just like Zelenskiy

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

I can get close on the debt and interest we owe from 1917 forward. The deaths of U.S. citizens we can add up fairly accurately. The heartache and ruined lives are vast and incalculable.

Now you tell me what we gained by jumping into WW1 and causing WW2 and as a result the Eurasian land mass ending up under brutal communist domination? Tell me how we as a nation have gained anything since then with our armed forces meddling and killing people all over the globe?

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

Burns is all about unconstitutional money (and blowing retired .mil)

Russia on the move again.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1636825865429368837

Bristoe saw an explosion on Twitter.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Word is, this *was* a Ukranian fuel depot in the Dnipropetrovsk region about 280 miles southeast of Kiev.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1636829166506000425

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by goalie

Again, to clarify, they should be ok with Russia conquering them, and not fight back?

Would that same logic apply to the US?

It makes me sad to see war and fighting with its attendant misery. I can see them fighting the Russians although I sincerely believe the Ukraine government at the urging of NATO/USA provoked and threatened Russia.

The problem I have is involving us in the USA in this.

I would be glad to fight a foreign invasion of the USA except not coastal California or the Eastern seaboard and Washington D.C. They could have that and Chicago and Detroit too.

So let me ask a few questions to make sure everyone fully understands your position.

Based on our previous conversations, it's my understanding you're ok with Russia control of all of Europe. Everything in the Former Soviet Union, plus the rest of Germany, France, Spain, Britain, Iceland etc.

What about Asia. Are you willing to China have all of Asia? Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.?

How about our 4 closes English speaking allies, Brittan, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada?

What about Central America. We fought the Soviets and their proxies in Central America in the 80's. Next time should we just let them have all of it, including our largest trading partner Mexico?

Would you give the Commies all of California, Oregon and Washington, or just the everything West of the Mountains?

How much of the East Coast would you let go? Everything from Maine down to where, Virginia, or would you throw in North Carolina?

New Mexico, Nevada, Montana?

There's polygamous in Southern Utah, should we let them have that?

If you're giving them New Mexico, why not Colorado?

If you're giving them Illinois and Michigan, why not Minnesota?\

I just want to make sure I understand the true limits of what you consider worth defending.

Basically for me personally I'm not leaving my state to go fight anyone. Might make an exception for one of our neighbor states.

I am not in favor of countries invading each other but as to our English speaking allies across the ocean, they are on their own if left up to me.

In truth I suppose we might have to assist Mexico and Canada and our national government would have to protect from invasion the odious coastal enclaves of political and human depravity.

But the rest of it can sort itself out. I'm not going and would try mightily to convince the young people of our family and friends to stay out of it.

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

It's not amazing. But I'd go farther back. What has our country gained since 1865?

Leader of the free world for one.

Lmfao! You need a wake up call. Fuggin clueless

Clueless? Wake up call?

You were the one bragging on Russia’s growth at an astounding .7% and claiming “that’s pretty damn good “ and trying to argue your stupid point while others here broke out the world map of growth rates. Then,,,,,you just slithered away.

Remember that?

You’re still in the weeds.

If you’re the “Champ” in your AO, then the runner up must be a real intelligent piece of work.

Seems like a significant Russian advance going on today. You can keep up with it here.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

I can get close on the debt and interest we owe from 1917 forward. The deaths of U.S. citizens we can add up fairly accurately. The heartache and ruined lives are vast and incalculable.

Now you tell me what we gained by jumping into WW1 and causing WW2 and as a result the Eurasian land mass ending up under brutal communist domination? Tell me how we as a nation have gained anything since then with our armed forces meddling and killing people all over the globe?

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

Gained from those you ask?

How about us being the world reserve currency and the safe harbor place where international capital flocks to in perilous times?

Then there’s the fact that you’re speaking English instead of German or Japanese.

You need to go back being a Possum cop from whence you came. No offense meant.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Word is, this *was* a Ukranian fuel depot in the Dnipropetrovsk region about 280 miles southeast of Kiev.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1636829166506000425

Maybe but you claimed the Orcs were "on the move".

Where are they moving?

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russia on the move again.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1636825865429368837

If the Orc just blew some more stuff up in Ukraine while they claime to be liberating the Ukraine peoples then it's just one more day in this stupid war you love.

tooty,/houston how many Russian and Euro banks failed this past week?

How's our stock market doing and boomers' 401k's under your hero Biden? lmao

Tooty you were same idiot that supported that all of our businesses in the US be closed for Covid .

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

I can get close on the debt and interest we owe from 1917 forward. The deaths of U.S. citizens we can add up fairly accurately. The heartache and ruined lives are vast and incalculable.

Now you tell me what we gained by jumping into WW1 and causing WW2 and as a result the Eurasian land mass ending up under brutal communist domination? Tell me how we as a nation have gained anything since then with our armed forces meddling and killing people all over the globe?

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

Your last paragraph is, again, amazing.

Good Merican.

toot/houston is a draft dodging war monger like most of the pro Zelenskiy anti Americans on here lol

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

I can get close on the debt and interest we owe from 1917 forward. The deaths of U.S. citizens we can add up fairly accurately. The heartache and ruined lives are vast and incalculable.

Now you tell me what we gained by jumping into WW1 and causing WW2 and as a result the Eurasian land mass ending up under brutal communist domination? Tell me how we as a nation have gained anything since then with our armed forces meddling and killing people all over the globe?

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

Your last paragraph is, again, amazing.

Good Merican.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

I can get close on the debt and interest we owe from 1917 forward. The deaths of U.S. citizens we can add up fairly accurately. The heartache and ruined lives are vast and incalculable.

Now you tell me what we gained by jumping into WW1 and causing WW2 and as a result the Eurasian land mass ending up under brutal communist domination? Tell me how we as a nation have gained anything since then with our armed forces meddling and killing people all over the globe?

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

Your last paragraph is, again, amazing.

Good Merican.

I'd be interested in seeing a genuine answer to the questions posed to you.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Where are they moving?

Northwest,...towards Kiev, it seems. This is a major step by Russia. It will be interesting to see if this is the move that puts NATO troops on the ground.

Here's where Russia is working to enter.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnipropetrovsk_Oblast#Education

Historically, Dnieper Ukraine comprised territory that roughly corresponded to the area of Ukraine within the expanding Russian Empire. Ukrainians sometimes call it Great Ukraine (Velyka Ukrayina). Historically, this region is tightly entwined with the history of Ukraine and is considered the heart of the country.

Ukrainian (Middle Dnieprian dialect, 67,0%) and Russian (31,9%) language are both equally used officially, with Russian being more common in cities, while Ukrainian is the dominant language in rural communities.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Do the retards that post all the click bait links get money or something? There's gotta be some motivation

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Originally Posted by Verylargeboots

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

I can get close on the debt and interest we owe from 1917 forward. The deaths of U.S. citizens we can add up fairly accurately. The heartache and ruined lives are vast and incalculable.

Now you tell me what we gained by jumping into WW1 and causing WW2 and as a result the Eurasian land mass ending up under brutal communist domination? Tell me how we as a nation have gained anything since then with our armed forces meddling and killing people all over the globe?

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

Your last paragraph is, again, amazing.

Good Merican.

I'd be interested in seeing a genuine answer to the questions posed to you.

The genuine answers have been stated.

If you are of the same mindset as Hastings there’s literally nothing to say to you.

Simply put, we disagree.

19352012: I have NOfucking clue!
What do you think?
Let me know if "our side" is winning - don't say anything if the rooskies are winning.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Oh, my.

Here comes 8 different posts in a row with unreadable memes, links and gifs.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Oh, my.

Here comes 8 different posts in a row with unreadable memes, links and gifs.

It is an easy question to answer.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Oh, my.

Here comes 8 different posts in a row with unreadable memes, links and gifs.

It is an easy question to answer.

For normal folks it is.

Originally Posted by goalie

Do the retards that post all the click bait links get money or something? There's gotta be some motivation

Some people just want to understand what's going on and it's starting to take shape.

Russia started in the southeast and has been pushing northwest. At this point Kiev lies between the Russian advance in the south and the Belarus border to the north. Russia has troops in Belarus also.

If the crazies that control Biden are going to make a move they'll have to do it soon.

The more I read, see and hear about the Ukrainian Einsatzgruppen kidnapping teenage boys and old men at gun point and forcing them against their will to the front the more I understand how correct I was in my suspicions. Anyone that wants to talk about freedom or sovereignty or border integrity without acknowledging the illegal kidnappings of Ukrainian boys and old men are at best ignorantfucks that should STFU…

There’s a huge difference between a military draft in times of crisis and sticking an AK into a 15 year old boy and his grandpa face at a cafe and forcing them into a truck to ship to the front with little to NO training. Perhaps that’s why the life expectancy of a new soldier on the front is less than 6 hours…often MUCH less. Kids fighting against their will on the frontlines is a WAR CRIME. Kidnapping and forcing people to die is a war crime.

The Ukrainians are copying the Nazis. I’m floored by the death numbers that are being thrown around…..these are akin to the casualty counts of our Civil War.

You cannot kidnap children and old men at gunpoint and have them fight your war AND claim that anything you do is for “Freedom”…. Despotic tyrants kidnap and force children to fight, NO compassionate man would EVER require a child to fight in his stead.

This ceased to be about freedom and border sovereignty the moment Zelensky decided to kidnap Ukrainian children and old men to fight to protect and preserve his access to grift and corruption.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Might want to tell jag that about 65 different countries peg their currency to the USD.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Might want to tell jag that about 65 different countries peg their currency to the USD.

A lot of atms in Cambodia disbursed US$$$$

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

This ceased to be about freedom and border sovereignty the moment Zelensky decided to kidnap Ukrainian children and old men to fight to protect and preserve his access to grift and corruption.

It was never about freedom. More than anything it was about Ukraine making war against ethnic Russians that were citizens of Ukraine.

The whole thing was enabled by the crazies who controlled the Obama administration.

Slavs are different folk. Ukranian Slavs are thick headed enough to think they they can kill off a bunch of ethnic Russians within their border with Russia right next door. Russian Slavs are thick headed enough to flatten the entirety of Ukraine for doing so.

They're very serious people when it comes to something like this.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

The more I read, see and hear about the Ukrainian Einsatzgruppen kidnapping teenage boys and old men at gun point and forcing them against their will to the front the more I understand how correct I was in my suspicions. Anyone that wants to talk about freedom or sovereignty or border integrity without acknowledging the illegal kidnappings of Ukrainian boys and old men are at best ignorantfucks that should STFU…

There’s a huge difference between a military draft in times of crisis and sticking an AK into a 15 year old boy and his grandpa face at a cafe and forcing them into a truck to ship to the front with little to NO training. Perhaps that’s why the life expectancy of a new soldier on the front is less than 6 hours…often MUCH less. Kids fighting against their will on the frontlines is a WAR CRIME. Kidnapping and forcing people to die is a war crime.

The Ukrainians are copying the Nazis. I’m floored by the death numbers that are being thrown around…..these are akin to the casualty counts of our Civil War.

You cannot kidnap children and old men at gunpoint and have them fight your war AND claim that anything you do is for “Freedom”…. Despotic tyrants kidnap and force children to fight, NO compassionate man would EVER require a child to fight in his stead.

This ceased to be about freedom and border sovereignty the moment Zelensky decided to kidnap Ukrainian children and old men to fight to protect and preserve his access to grift and corruption.

Your thoughts on Russian conscription (illegal by their own law because no war has been declared), the use of criminal mercenaries and using female prisoners to fight in Ukraine?

How about Putin’s arresting his countrymen and imprisoning them for up to 10 years for so much as speaking out against the invasion or the military action?

The last number given for those imprisoned is over 15,000 souls.

Do these register to you as Freedoms also?

These latest sanctions have highlighted how tentative our grasp on the Petro dollar is and how China and Russia as well as their sycophantic alliances are able to subvert the system. Once you get as big as your Uncle Sam you don’t have to do what he says because he can’t make you. 😉

The US Petro dollar was significantly and irreparably damaged by the recent sanctions. Russia has made record profits from selling their oil to China and India and in doing so has shown that our ability to punish other’s is weakened. You can be 100% sure that they’re working on eliminating our hegemony on the Petro dollar and using these sanctions as a chance to Beta test that end-around.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

You can be 100% sure that they’re working on eliminating our hegemony on the Petro dollar

It's already started.

The war against the U.S. Dollar is the *real* war. The situation in Ukraine is just the most visible element of it.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

The more I read, see and hear about the Ukrainian Einsatzgruppen kidnapping teenage boys and old men at gun point and forcing them against their will to the front the more I understand how correct I was in my suspicions. Anyone that wants to talk about freedom or sovereignty or border integrity without acknowledging the illegal kidnappings of Ukrainian boys and old men are at best ignorantfucks that should STFU…

There’s a huge difference between a military draft in times of crisis and sticking an AK into a 15 year old boy and his grandpa face at a cafe and forcing them into a truck to ship to the front with little to NO training. Perhaps that’s why the life expectancy of a new soldier on the front is less than 6 hours…often MUCH less. Kids fighting against their will on the frontlines is a WAR CRIME. Kidnapping and forcing people to die is a war crime.

The Ukrainians are copying the Nazis. I’m floored by the death numbers that are being thrown around…..these are akin to the casualty counts of our Civil War.

You cannot kidnap children and old men at gunpoint and have them fight your war AND claim that anything you do is for “Freedom”…. Despotic tyrants kidnap and force children to fight, NO compassionate man would EVER require a child to fight in his stead.

This ceased to be about freedom and border sovereignty the moment Zelensky decided to kidnap Ukrainian children and old men to fight to protect and preserve his access to grift and corruption.

It's easy to mislead those who are trying to confirm their failing bias.

That you somehow believe Bakhmut is holding out against the biggest land army in Eurasia using conscripted children and old men is astounding to a person who thinks.

How does one get so lost in their bias that they will believe things that are objectively impossible?

One group of Putin Pufters claims Bakhmut is killing all the good Ukraine soldiers and another group of Putin Pufters is claiming Ukraine has only old men and children holding out against the Orcs.

It's going to get worse here on the Campfire as the Pufters try and alter facts and reality to fit their previous bias.

Once the Western Armour starts to ROLL heads are going to melt.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Might want to tell jag that about 65 different countries peg their currency to the USD.

When JaggedEyeball reads "peg".

Originally Posted by JaggedEyeball

I’m not interested in discussing individual battles, arguing tactics or any of the minutiae, I’m looking at the macro picture assuming you all don’t get your wish and this erupts into a World War. The bigger picture is clear, sanctions did NOT have the effectiveness that we’d hoped for, the US hegemony on the Petro dollar was weakened because of it, China WINS this already and stands to WIN even more when they negotiate a peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran as well as a ceasefire in Ukraine.

Houston…..I think the Russians are scum and I expect them to do all kinds of illegal, immoral and despicable stuff. I expect better from the side that my country is supporting! I expect those that are crying and screaming for more of “my” money and guns to fight the evil Russians to behave better than what they’re fighting.

I expect torture and inhumane treatment of the average soldier from Russia but I don’t expect that behavior from the side my country supports.

I don’t subscribe to the argument that you are proffering whereby “they did it so I can do it”.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

I’m not interested in discussing individual battles, arguing tactics or any of the minutiae, I’m looking at the macro picture assuming you all don’t get your wish and this erupts into a World War. The bigger picture is clear, sanctions did NOT have the effectiveness that we’d hoped for, the US hegemony on the Petro dollar was weakened because of it, China WINS this already and stands to WIN even more when they negotiate a peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran as well as a ceasefire in Ukraine.

Houston…..I think the Russians are scum and I expect them to do all kinds of illegal, immoral and despicable stuff. I expect better from the side that my country is supporting! I expect those that are crying and screaming for more of “my” money and guns to fight the evil Russians to behave better than what they’re fighting.

I expect torture and inhumane treatment of the average soldier from Russia but I don’t expect that behavior from the side my country supports.

I don’t subscribe to the argument that you are proffering whereby “they did it so I can do it”.

Among Eastern Europeans, Ukranians are pretty much just considered Russians with even fouler dispositions than Russians.

From what I heard from my old Polish in laws (before they died) I can't believe Poland is jumping into this squabble. Historically, the Poles never like Russians but they disliked Ukranians even more.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

You can be 100% sure that they’re working on eliminating our hegemony on the Petro dollar

It's already started.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

You can be 100% sure that they’re working on eliminating our hegemony on the Petro dollar and using these sanctions as a chance to Beta test that end-around.

If you’d have quoted the rest of my sentence you’d have seen that I already stated as much.

Your experience with Ukrainians is about the same as mine. The Eastern European immigrants I’ve known through the years never had anything good to say about Ukrainians. I don’t like Russians and I never drew a distinction between them because there wasn’t one. After the wall fell they suddenly wanted to be called Ukrainian to differentiate between them and Russians if for no other reason than marketing. 😀

Of all the various people that came into my shop through the years it was Ukrainian thieves that I caught more than any other nationality.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Hide and watch. It can be pure D gold also. Russia is fixing to set the gold price. They may already be trading oil for chynas gold for all you know.

Come on dunbass, push the Fiat dollar instrument of inflation pushed by your buds running the WEF and NWO
( designed to defraud the people of the US) just the way you cut your dick off with the Ukraine/Russia thing.

Try to remember that our Constitution requires our currency be backed by precious metals. Your Nazi World Order buds took care of that.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

I’m not interested in discussing individual battles, arguing tactics or any of the minutiae, I’m looking at the macro picture assuming you all don’t get your wish and this erupts into a World War. The bigger picture is clear, sanctions did NOT have the effectiveness that we’d hoped for, the US hegemony on the Petro dollar was weakened because of it, China WINS this already and stands to WIN even more when they negotiate a peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran as well as a ceasefire in Ukraine.

Houston…..I think the Russians are scum and I expect them to do all kinds of illegal, immoral and despicable stuff. I expect better from the side that my country is supporting! I expect those that are crying and screaming for more of “my” money and guns to fight the evil Russians to behave better than what they’re fighting.

I expect torture and inhumane treatment of the average soldier from Russia but I don’t expect that behavior from the side my country supports.

I don’t subscribe to the argument that you are proffering whereby “they did it so I can do it”.

Fair enough, Aces.

How did you feel about our proxy war with Russia during their Afghanistan venture while we were heavily assisting those kind folks? Expecting “better treatment “ from our side that we support while they fight daily for their very lives is a bit beyond naive and I mean no offense in saying that.

We agree on one thing and that’s that there are no good guys either way but you might want to remember that Ukraine didn’t attack Russia nor did Georgia nor did The Crimea.

We’ll just agree to disagree on this.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Hide and watch. It can be pure D gold also. Russia is fixing to set the gold price. They may already be trading oil for chynas gold for all you know.

Come on dunbass, push the Fiat dollar instrument of inflation pushed by your buds running the WEF and NWO
( designed to defraud the people of the US) just the way you cut your dick off with the Ukraine/Russia thing.

Try to remember that our Constitution requires our currency be backed by precious metals. Your Nazi World Order buds took care of that.

You didn't answer the question.

How many countries currently have a "gold backed currency?"

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

How to tell us you don't understand the Dollars status as the Reserve Currency with out saying you don't understand.

Your entire lifestyle depends on the Dollar remaining the standard for World Trade.

Yet you invest in Rubble Rubels and pray for Putin and the Orcs in their genocide.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

And the deep state Nazi World Order and WEF is destroying it to institute their Economic Reset so they can issue their UD digital dollar.

The world will shun it for the brics nations gold backed currency.

The US Dollar is dying on the vine since SA agreed to drop their agreement with the US Neonazis to only trade in petrodollars and will start trading in other nations gold backed currency.

What nations currently have a "gold backed currency?"

I will wait...but won't hold my breath.

Jag still running from this simple question?

Looks like it.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Gained from those you ask?

How about us being the world reserve currency and the safe harbor place where international capital flocks to in perilous times?

Then there’s the fact that you’re speaking English instead of German or Japanese.

You need to go back being a Possum cop from whence you came. No offense meant.

Now you are sounding stupid, although I'm guessing your "patriotism" has become almost like a religion or a bad investment you just cannot turn loose of.

How did the Swiss, the British, the Swedes, the Australians, the Canadians make it without a reserve currency? There standard of living is and was pretty good.

How in hell were the Germans and Japs going to come across the ocean and successfully invade us? How?

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Hide and watch. It can be pure D gold also. Russia is fixing to set the gold price. They may already be trading oil for chynas gold for all you know.

Come on dunbass, push the Fiat dollar instrument of inflation pushed by your buds running the WEF and NWO
( designed to defraud the people of the US) just the way you cut your dick off with the Ukraine/Russia thing.

Try to remember that our Constitution requires our currency be backed by precious metals. Your Nazi World Order buds took care of that.

Actually those in the know understand that the Orcs are using physical gold to trade for imports as nobody will take Rubble Rubels.

Now how about telling us who has a currency backed by gold like you claimed.

Originally Posted by Hastings

How did the Swiss, the British, the Swedes, the Australians, the Canadians make it without a reserve currency? There standard of living is and was pretty good.

They used US Dollars for trade.

How do you not understand this?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

You didn't answer the question.

How many countries currently have a "gold backed currency?"

Every currency in the world is judged by how much gold it can buy. And it will become very apparent when (not if) the SHTF and paper gold disappears.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

You didn't answer the question.

How many countries currently have a "gold backed currency?"

Every currency in the world is judged by how much gold it can buy. And it will become very apparent when (not if) the SHTF and paper gold disappears.

That's not a gold backed currency.

But you knew that...

American invading sovereign countries and spreading freedom bombing children. Over 500 000 in Iraq alone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

How did the Swiss, the British, the Swedes, the Australians, the Canadians make it without a reserve currency? There standard of living is and was pretty good.

They used US Dollars for trade.

How do you not understand this?

So? What if we had used the Pound for trade? Would that have lowered our standard of living? Might of hurt the budget a little if all those suitcases of $100 bills that are used in the criminal trade worldwide didn't exist.

Tell me, what have we gained by trying to run planet earth?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

You didn't answer the question.

How many countries currently have a "gold backed currency?"

Every currency in the world is judged by how much gold it can buy. And it will become very apparent when (not if) the SHTF and paper gold disappears.

Wrong again.

I’ll wait for the demise of the USD. Meanwhile I’ll continue to save and spend them.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

You didn't answer the question.

How many countries currently have a "gold backed currency?"

Every currency in the world is judged by how much gold it can buy. And it will become very apparent when (not if) the SHTF and paper gold disappears.

Wrong again.

I’ll wait for the demise of the USD. Meanwhile I’ll continue to save and spend them.

How many American banks have gone teats up in the US this past week tooty?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

How did the Swiss, the British, the Swedes, the Australians, the Canadians make it without a reserve currency? There standard of living is and was pretty good.

They used US Dollars for trade.

How do you not understand this?

So? What if we had used the Pound for trade? Would that have lowered our standard of living? Might of hurt the budget a little if all those suitcases of $100 bills that are used in the criminal trade worldwide didn't exist.

Tell me, what have we gained by trying to run planet earth?

You have gone beyond willful ignorance.

If things don’t crash and go tits up with mass starvation before you die yours will be a life unfulfilled.

No I understand what you’re saying and I don’t think we’re really that far apart in this.

The behind the scenes crap that every nation engages in with their insertion through proxy into the wars of other countries is not at all what I’m talking about. It is pertinent in that I don’t get too worked up about it because it’s expected. The Reaper vs SU-27 is just 1 incident that while it’s indicative of nefarious intent by proxy it’s also “expected”. We do it all the time whether in Afghanistan against Russia or Russia doing it against us in Vietnam or Korea…..within certain parameters it’s “allowed”.

My comments about kidnapping conscripts are, as I said, pertaining to Ukraine. Ukraine should be expected to support the ideals of freedom if that’s in fact what they’re fighting for! I don’t care what Russia does because I expect them to be evil but they are not the ones asking for me and my fellow countrymen’s support.

How can anyone support Ukraine’s fight for “independence” when they’re actively kidnapping and forcing old men and children to fight? I’m not against children and old men fighting for their homeland BUT NOT UNDER THREAT OF DEATH!…it has to be voluntary.

Like I’ve said a hundred times…. I don’t think there’s much difference between the 2 so I’d prefer that we stay out of it and let Russians kill other former Russians in the country that used to be part of Russia. They can use the Russians arms and ammunition that their military uses and they can fight until there’s 1 man left standing…..we NEED to stay out of any FURTHER involvement! Let them both conduct themselves as immorally and unethically as they’re accustomed to. Let them torture each other and destroy their beautiful Soviet era concert apartments….we need to stay out of it! We can cut our losses and walk away without having spilled any American blood (for once). Biden knows how to evacuate with your tail between your legs so let’s hope that happens before we’re sucked into WWIII.

I don’t care what they do to each other in Russia’s backyard……it ain’t our sandbox!

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

You didn't answer the question.

How many countries currently have a "gold backed currency?"

Every currency in the world is judged by how much gold it can buy. And it will become very apparent when (not if) the SHTF and paper gold disappears.

Wrong again.

I’ll wait for the demise of the USD. Meanwhile I’ll continue to save and spend them.

The quicker you spend them the more you're going to be able to buy.

Gold closed at $1990 today. That's bad news for the Dollar.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

No I understand what you’re saying and I don’t think we’re really that far apart in this.

The behind the scenes crap that every nation engages in with their insertion through proxy into the wars of other countries is not at all what I’m talking about. It is pertinent in that I don’t get too worked up about it because it’s expected. The Reaper vs SU-27 is just 1 incident that while it’s indicative of nefarious intent by proxy it’s also “expected”. We do it all the time whether in Afghanistan against Russia or Russia doing it against us in Vietnam or Korea…..within certain parameters it’s “allowed”.

My comments about kidnapping conscripts are, as I said, pertaining to Ukraine. Ukraine should be expected to support the ideals of freedom if that’s in fact what they’re fighting for! I don’t care what Russia does because I expect them to be evil but they are not the ones asking for me and my fellow countrymen’s support.

How can anyone support Ukraine’s fight for “independence” when they’re actively kidnapping and forcing old men and children to fight? I’m not against children and old men fighting for their homeland BUT NOT UNDER THREAT OF DEATH!…it has to be voluntary.

Like I’ve said a hundred times…. I don’t think there’s much difference between the 2 so I’d prefer that we stay out of it and let Russians kill other former Russians in the country that used to be part of Russia. They can use the Russians arms and ammunition that their military uses and they can fight until there’s 1 man left standing…..we NEED to stay out of any FURTHER involvement! Let them both conduct themselves as immorally and unethically as they’re accustomed to. Let them torture each other and destroy their beautiful Soviet era concert apartments….we need to stay out of it! We can cut our losses and walk away without having spilled any American blood (for once). Biden knows how to evacuate with your tail between your legs so let’s hope that happens before we’re sucked into WWIII.

I don’t care what they do to each other in Russia’s backyard……it ain’t our sandbox!

I hear what you’re saying, Aces.

You’re okay with Putin just walking in and taking what he wants when he wants it? That’s 3 countries now. And do you think Ukraine will be his last acquisition?

Are you against Finland and Sweden joining NATO to protect themselves?

Are you against the Pacific Rim nations upping their military capabilities because of this?

Are you against all of free Europe increasing their defense budgets for what they see happening right next door?

Isolationism is so very nice. It just ain’t practical in today’s world and never will be again in our lifetimes.

Jmo

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

You didn't answer the question.

How many countries currently have a "gold backed currency?"

Every currency in the world is judged by how much gold it can buy. And it will become very apparent when (not if) the SHTF and paper gold disappears.

Wrong again.

I’ll wait for the demise of the USD. Meanwhile I’ll continue to save and spend them.

The quicker you spend them the more you're going to be able to buy.

Gold closed at $1990 today. That's bad news for the Dollar.

Yeah I guess the end has now arrived. It’s over.

You’ve heard of fluctuations, perhaps?

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

No I understand what you’re saying and I don’t think we’re really that far apart in this.

The behind the scenes crap that every nation engages in with their insertion through proxy into the wars of other countries is not at all what I’m talking about. It is pertinent in that I don’t get too worked up about it because it’s expected. The Reaper vs SU-27 is just 1 incident that while it’s indicative of nefarious intent by proxy it’s also “expected”. We do it all the time whether in Afghanistan against Russia or Russia doing it against us in Vietnam or Korea…..within certain parameters it’s “allowed”.

My comments about kidnapping conscripts are, as I said, pertaining to Ukraine. Ukraine should be expected to support the ideals of freedom if that’s in fact what they’re fighting for! I don’t care what Russia does because I expect them to be evil but they are not the ones asking for me and my fellow countrymen’s support.

How can anyone support Ukraine’s fight for “independence” when they’re actively kidnapping and forcing old men and children to fight? I’m not against children and old men fighting for their homeland BUT NOT UNDER THREAT OF DEATH!…it has to be voluntary.

Like I’ve said a hundred times…. I don’t think there’s much difference between the 2 so I’d prefer that we stay out of it and let Russians kill other former Russians in the country that used to be part of Russia. They can use the Russians arms and ammunition that their military uses and they can fight until there’s 1 man left standing…..we NEED to stay out of any FURTHER involvement! Let them both conduct themselves as immorally and unethically as they’re accustomed to. Let them torture each other and destroy their beautiful Soviet era concert apartments….we need to stay out of it! We can cut our losses and walk away without having spilled any American blood (for once). Biden knows how to evacuate with your tail between your legs so let’s hope that happens before we’re sucked into WWIII.

I don’t care what they do to each other in Russia’s backyard……it ain’t our sandbox!

I hear what you’re saying, Aces.

You’re okay with Putin just walking in and taking what he wants when he wants it? That’s 3 countries now. And do you think Ukraine will be his last acquisition?

Are you against Finland and Sweden joining NATO to protect themselves?

Are you against the Pacific Rim nations upping their military capabilities because of this?

Are you against all of free Europe increasing their defense budgets for what they see happening right next door?

Isolationism is so very nice. It just ain’t practical in today’s world and never will be again in our lifetimes.

Jmo

There's no reason to talk sense to a warmonger, Aces. They just holler "NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN!,..... HITLERRRRRRR!

PUTIN WANTS TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!"

Leftists aren't reasonable people. Neither are idiots.

People who want the U.S.A. involved in this mess are one or the other,.....usually both.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The quicker you spend them the more you're going to be able to buy.

Gold closed at $1990 today. That's bad news for the Dollar.

Bristoe: You haven't seen anything yet. If it ever gets out to where it cannot be denied and the paper gold/silver/platinum gets exposed that it doesn't exist the price will go through the roof. At that point there will probably be a death penalty for owning the real stuff. Bad money cannot succeed unless it drives good money out.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

No I understand what you’re saying and I don’t think we’re really that far apart in this.

The behind the scenes crap that every nation engages in with their insertion through proxy into the wars of other countries is not at all what I’m talking about. It is pertinent in that I don’t get too worked up about it because it’s expected. The Reaper vs SU-27 is just 1 incident that while it’s indicative of nefarious intent by proxy it’s also “expected”. We do it all the time whether in Afghanistan against Russia or Russia doing it against us in Vietnam or Korea…..within certain parameters it’s “allowed”.

My comments about kidnapping conscripts are, as I said, pertaining to Ukraine. Ukraine should be expected to support the ideals of freedom if that’s in fact what they’re fighting for! I don’t care what Russia does because I expect them to be evil but they are not the ones asking for me and my fellow countrymen’s support.

How can anyone support Ukraine’s fight for “independence” when they’re actively kidnapping and forcing old men and children to fight? I’m not against children and old men fighting for their homeland BUT NOT UNDER THREAT OF DEATH!…it has to be voluntary.

Like I’ve said a hundred times…. I don’t think there’s much difference between the 2 so I’d prefer that we stay out of it and let Russians kill other former Russians in the country that used to be part of Russia. They can use the Russians arms and ammunition that their military uses and they can fight until there’s 1 man left standing…..we NEED to stay out of any FURTHER involvement! Let them both conduct themselves as immorally and unethically as they’re accustomed to. Let them torture each other and destroy their beautiful Soviet era concert apartments….we need to stay out of it! We can cut our losses and walk away without having spilled any American blood (for once). Biden knows how to evacuate with your tail between your legs so let’s hope that happens before we’re sucked into WWIII.

I don’t care what they do to each other in Russia’s backyard……it ain’t our sandbox!

I hear what you’re saying, Aces.

You’re okay with Putin just walking in and taking what he wants when he wants it? That’s 3 countries now. And do you think Ukraine will be his last acquisition?

Are you against Finland and Sweden joining NATO to protect themselves?

Are you against the Pacific Rim nations upping their military capabilities because of this?

Are you against all of free Europe increasing their defense budgets for what they see happening right next door?

Isolationism is so very nice. It just ain’t practical in today’s world and never will be again in our lifetimes.

Jmo

There's no reason to talk sense to a warmonger, Aces. They just holler "NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN!,..... HITLERRRRRRR!

PUTIN WANTS TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!"

Leftists aren't reasonable people. Neither are idiots.

People who want the U.S.A. involved in this mess are one or the other,.....usually both.

And even less reason to talk sense to a rube such as yourself.
But I repeat myself.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The quicker you spend them the more you're going to be able to buy.

Gold closed at $1990 today. That's bad news for the Dollar.

Bristoe: You haven't seen anything yet. If it ever gets out to where it cannot be denied and the paper gold/silver/platinum gets exposed that it doesn't exist the price will go through the roof. At that point there will probably be a death penalty for owning the real stuff. Bad money cannot succeed unless it drives good money out.

I know. Comex and the boyz will naked short the heck out of gold Monday.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The quicker you spend them the more you're going to be able to buy.

Gold closed at $1990 today. That's bad news for the Dollar.

Bristoe: You haven't seen anything yet. If it ever gets out to where it cannot be denied and the paper gold/silver/platinum gets exposed that it doesn't exist the price will go through the roof. At that point there will probably be a death penalty for owning the real stuff. Bad money cannot succeed unless it drives good money out.

Poignant observations there.

Meanwhile life goes on and currencies exchange with each other except for your prized Ruble and 65 other countries still peg their currencies to the no good, worthless USD.

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Amen

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Amen

Church is over now.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Who cares? It’s historically been Russian property anyway. Why the newfound indignation at everything except the destruction of the USA? Why not focus your attention here instead of Crimea or Georgia?….I mean Georgia, seriously? WTF has Georgia, as in the satellite state of the former USSR, done that you are so concerned about? What’s their major export?….no googling.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Who cares? It’s historically been Russian property anyway. Why the newfound indignation at everything except the destruction of the USA? Why not focus your attention here instead of Crimea or Georgia?….I mean Georgia, seriously? WTF has Georgia, as in the satellite state of the former USSR, done that you are so concerned about? What’s their major export?….no googling.

Does it bother you that “historically” we belonged to England?

Pipeline through Georgia along with oil and gas production might be an indicator.

Who says anyone here has lost focus on our own internal problems?

This discussion concerns Ukraine and Russia.

Russian women in their spare time.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russian women in their spare time.

Might explain why Putin sent female prisoners to front in Ukraine.

Historically speaking who did Iraq, Afganistan, Syria, and Libya belong to. Asking for a friend.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russian women in their spare time.

Might explain why Putin sent female prisoners to front in Ukraine.

Is there any leftist propaganda you won't parrot?

You embarrass yourself.

Georgia grows peaches 🍑

And bull dogs……

Russia can’t have it!

Herschel won’t like it!

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russian women in their spare time.

Might explain why Putin sent female prisoners to front in Ukraine.

Is there any leftist propaganda you won't parrot?

You embarrass yourself.

If you can’t google or DuckDuckGo this get an upgrade. Then read for yourself.

The only embarrassment here is trying to be civil with someone like yourself who does nothing but talk scchitt and use ad hominem comments when you’re above your head which is all too regular.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

The only embarrassment here is trying to be civil

You pretend to be civil to fool people into thinking you're just one of the boyz.

Then you drop a big leftist turd in the middle of a thread and hope that the boyz don't see it for what it is because you've been "civil".

It's lame.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russian women in their spare time.

Might explain why Putin sent female prisoners to front in Ukraine.

Is there any leftist propaganda you won't parrot?

You embarrass yourself.

Curious as to what news sources you use and trust?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Is there any leftist propaganda you won't parrot?

You embarrass yourself.

Curious as to what news sources you use and trust?

Bristoe prefers ConfirmMyBias.com.

Another favorite is PutinPuftersSafeSpace.net

[Linked Image from media.giphy.com]

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

The only embarrassment here is trying to be civil

You pretend to be civil to fool people into thinking you're just one of the boyz.

Then you drop a big leftist turd in the middle of a thread and hope that the boyz don't see it for what it is because you've been "civil".

It's lame.

The boys can think what they want to think. Unlike you I don’t feel the need to “belong”.

There is no leftist turd dropped anywhere and as usual you run and haul ass back to your normal behavior when clearly shown that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Let us know what you find about Putin sending female prisoners to fight in Ukraine.
Of course you’ll dodge and skate as you always do.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russian women in their spare time.

Might explain why Putin sent female prisoners to front in Ukraine.

Is there any leftist propaganda you won't parrot?

You embarrass yourself.

Curious as to what news sources you use and trust?

Bristoe?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Is there any leftist propaganda you won't parrot?

You embarrass yourself.

Curious as to what news sources you use and trust?

Bristoe prefers ConfirmMyBias.com.

Another favorite is PutinPuftersSafeSpace.net

[Linked Image from media.giphy.com]

Johnny Burns joined the airforce in a non combat role to experience the tranny pedophilia ifestyle and avoid firearms and combat

https://thepostmillennial.com/us-air-force-base-hosts-kid-friendly-drag-show

Originally Posted by Putin Pufters realizing they supported a Mad Man bent on Genocide

John Burns is a war hero!!!

lmao

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's way past time to put away childish perspectives.

Your tells are always funny.

[Linked Image from pbs.twimg.com]

Speaking of children.
One theory of phags is that they experienced childhood trauma and are locked at that mental age. In Johnny BJ's case, about 9yo.

Interesting. I always pictured her as a 3d grade girl. I guess we see it the same.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Not sure what your remarks have to do with the price of eggs in China.

Seems the consensus here except for a few NWO types is that we have no business in a fight between two nasty countries thousands of miles away across the ocean.

I have an idea Houston, let's not worry about Poland, Crimea, Georgia (the Eurasian one), and let's get our a$$e$ out of NATO. We might do well to put those surveillance drones on our border to see if we can head off some of these mob gangs coming across in mass.

Don't you think we have our plate pretty full inside our own borders without worrying if Mr. Putin is going to ruin Mr. Gaylenski's day?

Every other foreign adventure we've been on for the last many decades has come a cropper. Why would this one be different?

So, just only ad hominem as a retort?

Wyoming Arms supports a drag show for children

slava Ukraine

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Speaking of children.
One theory of phags is that they experienced childhood trauma and are locked at that mental age. In Johnny BJ's case, about 9yo.

Interesting. I always pictured her as a 3d grade girl. I guess we see it the same.

Originally Posted by TryBonner and DatAzz

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So, just only ad hominem as a retort?

what's your take on Obama's 1000 children killed by his drones in the name of democracy after we lost and fled Afghanistan and Iraq?

Are you another pedophile drag queen show for children fan? lol

slava Ukraine

Houston is Tooty's pedophile sock puppet and a huge Biden supporter

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Not sure what your remarks have to do with the price of eggs in China.

Seems the consensus here except for a few NWO types is that we have no business in a fight between two nasty countries thousands of miles away across the ocean.

I have an idea Houston, let's not worry about Poland, Crimea, Georgia (the Eurasian one), and let's get our a$$e$ out of NATO. We might do well to put those surveillance drones on our border to see if we can head off some of these mob gangs coming across in mass.

Don't you think we have our plate pretty full inside our own borders without worrying if Mr. Putin is going to ruin Mr. Gaylenski's day?

Every other foreign adventure we've been on for the last many decades has come a cropper. Why would this one be different?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Not sure what your remarks have to do with the price of eggs in China.

Seems the consensus here except for a few NWO types is that we have no business in a fight between two nasty countries thousands of miles away across the ocean.

I have an idea Houston, let's not worry about Poland, Crimea, Georgia (the Eurasian one), and let's get our a$$e$ out of NATO. We might do well to put those surveillance drones on our border to see if we can head off some of these mob gangs coming across in mass.

Don't you think we have our plate pretty full inside our own borders without worrying if Mr. Putin is going to ruin Mr. Gaylenski's day?

Every other foreign adventure we've been on for the last many decades has come a cropper. Why would this one be different?

“The consensus here “.

Heh! Good one Hastings.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Whatsboutism

Was The King and Hilarious justified in a Color Revolution in Libya..

How about the Arab Spring ..

Destabilizing Mexico with Fast n Furious..

How about NATO Expansion into Ukraine..

Putin told them he would not Tolerate that ..

The Constant Shelling of the Donbas by the Ukie Nazi’s .

Things are Quiet when Your War Bagels aren’t in Power .

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Whatsboutism

Was The King and Hilarious justified in a Color Revolution in Libya..

How about the Arab Spring ..

Destabilizing Mexico with Fast n Furious..

How about NATO Expansion into Ukraine..

Putin told them he would not Tolerate that ..

The Constant Shelling of the Donbas by the Ukie Nazi’s .

Things are Quiet when Your War Bagels aren’t in Power .

Miss the parts about Georgia and the Crimea?

tooty why did the US invade Iraq twice and kill over 500,000 innocent children. Are we spreading democracy?

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Whatsboutism

Was The King and Hilarious justified in a Color Revolution in Libya..

How about the Arab Spring ..

Destabilizing Mexico with Fast n Furious..

How about NATO Expansion into Ukraine..

Putin told them he would not Tolerate that ..

The Constant Shelling of the Donbas by the Ukie Nazi’s .

Things are Quiet when Your War Bagels aren’t in Power .

Miss the parts about Georgia and the Crimea?

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Not sure what your remarks have to do with the price of eggs in China.

Seems the consensus here except for a few NWO types is that we have no business in a fight between two nasty countries thousands of miles away across the ocean.

I have an idea Houston, let's not worry about Poland, Crimea, Georgia (the Eurasian one), and let's get our a$$e$ out of NATO. We might do well to put those surveillance drones on our border to see if we can head off some of these mob gangs coming across in mass.

Don't you think we have our plate pretty full inside our own borders without worrying if Mr. Putin is going to ruin Mr. Gaylenski's day?

Every other foreign adventure we've been on for the last many decades has come a cropper. Why would this one be different?

“The consensus here “.

Heh! Good one Hastings.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Whatsboutism

Was The King and Hilarious justified in a Color Revolution in Libya..

How about the Arab Spring ..

Destabilizing Mexico with Fast n Furious..

How about NATO Expansion into Ukraine..

Putin told them he would not Tolerate that ..

The Constant Shelling of the Donbas by the Ukie Nazi’s .

Things are Quiet when Your War Bagels aren’t in Power .

Miss the parts about Georgia and the Crimea?

While Your King was Ripp’n Up the Middle East the Equilibrium was out of Kilter..

tooty, Whydid the Us invade Afghanistan , Iraq twice, Syria and spend over a TRILLION dollars in US tax money. Is it because they are a threat on our US border?

Why do we have tens of thousands of homeless military vets living on the streets now in poverty in the US?

Are you a combat vet like Johnnie Burns and squidgy or just a coward? lmao

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by rainshot

Looking at what Washington has done along with NATO to nurture and escalate this conflict I can only think that we have a lot of dirty laundry to hide there. NATO has crept up to the Russian border. Our installation of a corrupt actor and building and financing many biological labs there only adds to the shame we’ve engaged in there. Biden’s own admission of collusion and not only his own son but Romney, Pelosi and Kerry’s relatives taking no show jobs raking in millions there is shameful. It’s treasonous. I have never been a fan of Russia but I see them as justified in this conflict.

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Whatsboutism

Was The King and Hilarious justified in a Color Revolution in Libya..

How about the Arab Spring ..

Destabilizing Mexico with Fast n Furious..

How about NATO Expansion into Ukraine..

Putin told them he would not Tolerate that ..

The Constant Shelling of the Donbas by the Ukie Nazi’s .

Things are Quiet when Your War Bagels aren’t in Power .

Miss the parts about Georgia and the Crimea?

Originally Posted by akrange

Things are Quiet when Your War Bagels aren’t in Power .

Yet Trump smashed ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

Trump threw a lot of Tomahawks into Syria when they wanted to play with SLIME.

Trump smashed Iran's favorite General down to just a ring finger for all to see.

Trump smashed the Wagner Orcs in Syria when they tried to get froggy.

Trump backed Lil Rocket Man down.

Trump called for more aid early on to Ukraine.

Facts.

Quote

Trump smashed Iran's favorite General down to just a ring finger for all to see.

That was epic when President Trump had Quasi Salami vaporized. MAGA

Trump wants peace with Russia and no more more supporting blood thirsty NAZis in Ukraine killing millions of innocent civilians

.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

Things are Quiet when Your War Bagels aren’t in Power .

Yet Trump smashed ISIS in Iraq and Syria.

Trump threw a lot of Tomahawks into Syria when they wanted to play with SLIME.

Trump smashed Iran's favorite General down to just a ring finger for all to see.

Trump smashed the Wagner Orcs in Syria when they tried to get froggy.

Trump backed Lil Rocket Man down.

Trump called for more aid early on to Ukraine.

Facts.

Bigly ..

Allah Akbar

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So, just only ad hominem as a retort?

what's your take on Obama's 1000 children killed by his drones in the name of democracy after we lost and fled Afghanistan and Iraq?

Are you another pedophile drag queen show for children fan? lol

slava Ukraine

Ad hominem?

Come visit.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Quote

Trump smashed Iran's favorite General down to just a ring finger for all to see.

That was epic when President Trump had Quasi Salami vaporized. MAGA

Trump showing his idiot ass again killing a very popular hero who actually helped dear ol' US (them) in zee war on tewah. Anything for his sleazy Zionist backers though and our closest ally of course. And while the accusations fly at Putin for invading a peaceful nation, look who's siphoning off whose oil. Don't be honest. Don't be fair or, God forbid, informed. Just be consistent if you can figure it out. Try.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Verylargeboots

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

What did we gain in wars since 1917 besides heartache and debt?

Your last sentence is amazing.

I can get close on the debt and interest we owe from 1917 forward. The deaths of U.S. citizens we can add up fairly accurately. The heartache and ruined lives are vast and incalculable.

Now you tell me what we gained by jumping into WW1 and causing WW2 and as a result the Eurasian land mass ending up under brutal communist domination? Tell me how we as a nation have gained anything since then with our armed forces meddling and killing people all over the globe?

And I don't care to hear how we became the leader of the "free" world. That was worth about a bucket of spit.

Your last paragraph is, again, amazing.

Good Merican.

I'd be interested in seeing a genuine answer to the questions posed to you.

The genuine answers have been stated.

If you are of the same mindset as Hastings there’s literally nothing to say to you.

Simply put, we disagree.

I fail to see how asking a question puts me in the same lane as another individual, or is this Angola in the late 70s?

bin Laden was once a useful US asset, until he got mad at us. We smoked him too.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Was Putin justified in invading Georgia and The Crimea, too?

Should Poland get out of NATO to make your man Putin happy?

Not sure what your remarks have to do with the price of eggs in China.

Seems the consensus here except for a few NWO types is that we have no business in a fight between two nasty countries thousands of miles away across the ocean.

I have an idea Houston, let's not worry about Poland, Crimea, Georgia (the Eurasian one), and let's get our a$$e$ out of NATO. We might do well to put those surveillance drones on our border to see if we can head off some of these mob gangs coming across in mass.

Don't you think we have our plate pretty full inside our own borders without worrying if Mr. Putin is going to ruin Mr. Gaylenski's day?

Every other foreign adventure we've been on for the last many decades has come a cropper. Why would this one be different?

“The consensus here “.

Heh! Good one Hastings.

I thought so too

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

bin Laden was once a useful US asset, until he got mad at us. We smoked him too.

Did we?

What sources?

Buried him at sea...

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..

These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..

Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..

Inferno ..

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

bin Laden was once a useful US asset, until he got mad at us. We smoked him too.

Did we?

What sources?

Buried him at sea...

You do Know it was a Religious Reason ..

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

bin Laden was once a useful US asset, until he got mad at us. We smoked him too.

Did we?

What sources?

Buried him at sea...

You do Know it was a Religious Reason ..

Did they really kill him? I'm sort of believing they did. And I believe that despite their protests the Pakis were all for it.

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..

These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..

Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..

Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So, just only ad hominem as a retort?

what's your take on Obama's 1000 children killed by his drones in the name of democracy after we lost and fled Afghanistan and Iraq?

Are you another pedophile drag queen show for children fan? lol

slava Ukraine

Ad hominem?

Come visit.

pedophilia, no thank you

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..

These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..

Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..

Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Grownups know to take care of their own and to not go nosing around in other folks arguments.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..
These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..
Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..
Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Grownups know to take care of their own and to not go nosing around in other folks arguments.

When you're the issuer of the World Reserve Currency your focus expands a bit.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

bin Laden was once a useful US asset, until he got mad at us. We smoked him too.

No, we didn't. It was all a lie to get Zero reelected.

Kilery, Zero and Burnsies NWO/WEF t9ok Kadafy out for the same reason they and US Neonazis are trying to take Putin out.
Lybia had a higher std of living than the US. Rich. GOLD. He and others were going to destroy the Rothschilds modern Babylon banking system and illegal Fed Reserve by starting oil trade in gold. They and the cee Why Aye wanted the war in Afghanistan t9 get the lucrative poppy trade going and feed the US military industrial complex with American blood..

hey took him out and turned Lybia over to muxxy Caliphate and now kids starve and sell themselves for cups of grain and supply the east w sex slaves and adrenochrome.

Amb Steven's died because he found out they were illegally running guns to the ISIS group Zero and the Nazi World Order and WEF had set up. With the Cee yyy Aye, the parent group of MS 13.

Zero made a deal with the Pakistan who caught Ben Ladin to hold him for months until near the election when the go ahead was given to film the raid and take him or a double out. I figure a double because he was buried at sea w no good pics of him dead. Zero won the election..

Problem was now the muxys had the goods on Zero so he had to come up with pallets of cash, 5 billion delivered on separate planes. He also had to release %150 billion to Iran.

They knew the truth would come out about from Seal Ream (sp) 6 so they set them up to be taken out. Gayghosts, Suckermores, Lostinhells , plumdumbs and Houston_2s Zero, Kilery and the Bidet.

That is the swamp some say Trump should have taken out in 4 years.

Be proud, guys. AMERKA loves ya.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..

These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..

Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..

Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Putin arrest warrant issued over war crime allegations

Quote

It is highly unlikely that much will come of the move - the ICC has no powers to arrest suspects, and can only exercise jurisdiction within its member countries - and Russia is not one of them.

However it could affect the president in other ways, such as being unable to travel internationally.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

When you're the issuer of the World Reserve Currency your focus expands a bit.

When you're the issuer of the world's reserve currency you don't confiscate a nation's wealth that is held in U.S. Dollars.

It causes nations to lose faith in U.S. Dollars and decreases demand for them globally.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

When you're the issuer of the World Reserve Currency your focus expands a bit.

When you're the issuer of the world's reserve currency you don't confiscate a nation's wealth that is held in U.S. Dollars.

It causes nations to lose faith in U.S. Dollars and decreases demand for them globally.

More of your bullscchitt.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

When you're the issuer of the World Reserve Currency your focus expands a bit.

When you're the issuer of the world's reserve currency you don't confiscate a nation's wealth that is held in U.S. Dollars.

It causes nations to lose faith in U.S. Dollars and decreases demand for them globally.

It's one of the perks of being the issuer of the World Reserve Currency.

But I come from a Pro United States of America point of view while you Putin Pufters love Mother Russia and want a Russia First Policy.

I would just like an answer from ol jag and bristoe...

No?

Good video on just this subject released just 10 hours ago.

The first 5 minutes spells it out very well.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

When you're the issuer of the World Reserve Currency your focus expands a bit.

When you're the issuer of the world's reserve currency you don't confiscate a nation's wealth that is held in U.S. Dollars.

It causes nations to lose faith in U.S. Dollars and decreases demand for them globally.

The dollar is coming to an end. They want to destroy it and have chaos and anarchy and starve us into accepting the Economic reset with one world govt and trackable US digital dollars.

Then, if you're a bad boy, they can turn your dollars to schiett.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..

These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..

Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..

Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Your so Far Out ..

Your In Baby ..

Hahahaha

Sumbitch..

Hahahaha

The corksuckers have a niche cut out for them for themselves and don't want us to leave the Satanic Beast System.

They are too stupid to realize the Beast that is using them is leading them to their destruction too.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..
These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..
Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..
Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Grownups know to take care of their own and to not go nosing around in other folks arguments.

When you're the issuer of the World Reserve Currency your focus expands a bit.

You Dilute it’s value until people Figure it Out .

Hahahaha

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Your so Far Out ..

Your In Baby ..

Hahahaha

Sumbitch..

Hahahaha

Hey dummy, this same globalist facist group issued warrants for American soldiers fighting in Afghanistan.

clown world

Originally Posted by Squidge

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..

These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..

Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..

Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Putin arrest warrant issued over war crime allegations

Quote

It is highly unlikely that much will come of the move - the ICC has no powers to arrest suspects, and can only exercise jurisdiction within its member countries - and Russia is not one of them.

However it could affect the president in other ways, such as being unable to travel internationally.

burns ,what was your MOS in the air force? Did you ever even fire a weapon during your service? lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Your so Far Out ..

Your In Baby ..

Hahahaha

Sumbitch..

Hahahaha

Originally Posted by Squidge

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..

These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..

Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..

Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Putin arrest warrant issued over war crime allegations

Quote

It is highly unlikely that much will come of the move - the ICC has no powers to arrest suspects, and can only exercise jurisdiction within its member countries - and Russia is not one of them.

However it could affect the president in other ways, such as being unable to travel internationally.

How can you trust these people that don’t even know what Sex they are ..

This is Satan Court ..

squidgy supports pedophilia.

are you surprised?

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by Squidge

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..

These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..

Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..

Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Putin arrest warrant issued over war crime allegations

Quote

It is highly unlikely that much will come of the move - the ICC has no powers to arrest suspects, and can only exercise jurisdiction within its member countries - and Russia is not one of them.

However it could affect the president in other ways, such as being unable to travel internationally.

How can you trust these people that don’t even know what Sex they are ..

This is Satan Court ..

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

bin Laden was once a useful US asset, until he got mad at us. We smoked him too.

No, we didn't. It was all a lie to get Zero reelected.

Kilery, Zero and Burnsies NWO/WEF t9ok Kadafy out for the same reason they and US Neonazis are trying to take Putin out.
Lybia had a higher std of living than the US. Rich. GOLD. He and others were going to destroy the Rothschilds modern Babylon banking system and illegal Fed Reserve by starting oil trade in gold. They and the cee Why Aye wanted the war in Afghanistan t9 get the lucrative poppy trade going and feed the US military industrial complex with American blood..

hey took him out and turned Lybia over to muxxy Caliphate and now kids starve and sell themselves for cups of grain and supply the east w sex slaves and adrenochrome.

Amb Steven's died because he found out they were illegally running guns to the ISIS group Zero and the Nazi World Order and WEF had set up. With the Cee yyy Aye, the parent group of MS 13.

Zero made a deal with the Pakistan who caught Ben Ladin to hold him for months until near the election when the go ahead was given to film the raid and take him or a double out. I figure a double because he was buried at sea w no good pics of him dead. Zero won the election..

Problem was now the muxys had the goods on Zero so he had to come up with pallets of cash, 5 billion delivered on separate planes. He also had to release %150 billion to Iran.

They knew the truth would come out about from Seal Ream (sp) 6 so they set them up to be taken out. Gayghosts, Suckermores, Lostinhells , plumdumbs and Houston_2s Zero, Kilery and the Bidet.

That is the swamp some say Trump should have taken out in 4 years.

Be proud, guys. AMERKA loves ya.

That's pretty crazy talk, congrats <regarding bin Laden>

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

bin Laden was once a useful US asset, until he got mad at us. We smoked him too.

No, we didn't. It was all a lie to get Zero reelected.

Kilery, Zero and Burnsies NWO/WEF t9ok Kadafy out for the same reason they and US Neonazis are trying to take Putin out.
Lybia had a higher std of living than the US. Rich. GOLD. He and others were going to destroy the Rothschilds modern Babylon banking system and illegal Fed Reserve by starting oil trade in gold. They and the cee Why Aye wanted the war in Afghanistan t9 get the lucrative poppy trade going and feed the US military industrial complex with American blood..

hey took him out and turned Lybia over to muxxy Caliphate and now kids starve and sell themselves for cups of grain and supply the east w sex slaves and adrenochrome.

Amb Steven's died because he found out they were illegally running guns to the ISIS group Zero and the Nazi World Order and WEF had set up. With the Cee yyy Aye, the parent group of MS 13.

Zero made a deal with the Pakistan who caught Ben Ladin to hold him for months until near the election when the go ahead was given to film the raid and take him or a double out. I figure a double because he was buried at sea w no good pics of him dead. Zero won the election..

Problem was now the muxys had the goods on Zero so he had to come up with pallets of cash, 5 billion delivered on separate planes. He also had to release %150 billion to Iran.

They knew the truth would come out about from Seal Ream (sp) 6 so they set them up to be taken out. Gayghosts, Suckermores, Lostinhells , plumdumbs and Houston_2s Zero, Kilery and the Bidet.

That is the swamp some say Trump should have taken out in 4 years.

Be proud, guys. AMERKA loves ya.

That's pretty crazy talk, congrats <regarding bin Laden>

You needn’t limit it to re:bin Laden.

As the urban folks would say....

"Y'all muhfukus be drinkin too damn early and stay drinkin too damn late".

Or something to that effect.

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by Squidge

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by akrange

The King ,Eric Holder and Hilarious Crimes against Humanity are Far Greater than Putin’s ..

These Types when given Power End Up giving US the Towering Inferno..

Now we have Mr. Pudd’n which is controlled by Bagels and if let to run will give US Dr. Strangelove..

Inferno ..

Grown ups know that the bad deeds of some do not excuse the bad deeds of others.

It's part of understanding how the world works.

Putin arrest warrant issued over war crime allegations

Quote

It is highly unlikely that much will come of the move - the ICC has no powers to arrest suspects, and can only exercise jurisdiction within its member countries - and Russia is not one of them.

However it could affect the president in other ways, such as being unable to travel internationally.

How can you trust these people that don’t even know what Sex they are ..

This is Satan Court ..

Who said anything about trusting the ICC? You did, not I.

I simply pointed out to Burns that nothing will likely come of the move and the Russia first crowd gets triggered.

For the Russia first crowd on the Fire, you're a...

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Putin flew to nazi-liberated Mariupol by helicopter and then traveled around several city districts by car, making stops to talk to local residents and inspected infrastructure to be rebuilt, in the process of being rebuilt or even completed.

In particular, Khusnullin showed Putin the building of the city philharmonic hall, telling the president that its construction was fully completed in three months.
The reconstruction of the city center of Mariupol, where many historical buildings are located, is planned to be completed by the end of 2023, the deputy prime minister said.

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Wow! Russian President Putin is in Mariupol, checking out the newly constructed buildings and talking to citizens!!

Mariupol has a bright future as a part of Russia. It will once again become an industrial powerhouse and also a key hub in China’s Belt and Road Initiative! https://t.co/B6NbB2Y5UA pic.twitter.com/qqm2XSP2xZ

— S.L. Kanthan (@Kanthan2030) March 19, 2023

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Mariupol has a bright future as a part of Russia. It will once again become an industrial powerhouse and also a key hub in China’s Belt and Road Initiative! https://t.co/B6NbB2Y5UA pic.twitter.com/qqm2XSP2xZ

— S.L. Kanthan (@Kanthan2030) March 19, 2023

Your cheerleading for the Orcs and ChiComs here on the Campfire is duly noted.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

How many here want to be Russian?

Stand up and be counted.

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Putin flew to nazi-liberated Mariupol by helicopter and then traveled around several city districts by car, making stops to talk to local residents and inspected infrastructure to be rebuilt, in the process of being rebuilt or even completed.

In particular, Khusnullin showed Putin the building of the city philharmonic hall, telling the president that its construction was fully completed in three months.
The reconstruction of the city center of Mariupol, where many historical buildings are located, is planned to be completed by the end of 2023, the deputy prime minister said.

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Wow! Russian President Putin is in Mariupol, checking out the newly constructed buildings and talking to citizens!!

Mariupol has a bright future as a part of Russia. It will once again become an industrial powerhouse and also a key hub in China’s Belt and Road Initiative! https://t.co/B6NbB2Y5UA pic.twitter.com/qqm2XSP2xZ

— S.L. Kanthan (@Kanthan2030) March 19, 2023

The cognitive dissonance is amazing. They're rebuilding because THEY destroyed the city and industrial area with traditional Russian tactics.

🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Putin flew to nazi-liberated Mariupol by helicopter and then traveled around several city districts by car, making stops to talk to local residents and inspected infrastructure to be rebuilt, in the process of being rebuilt or even completed.

In particular, Khusnullin showed Putin the building of the city philharmonic hall, telling the president that its construction was fully completed in three months.
The reconstruction of the city center of Mariupol, where many historical buildings are located, is planned to be completed by the end of 2023, the deputy prime minister said.

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Wow! Russian President Putin is in Mariupol, checking out the newly constructed buildings and talking to citizens!!

Mariupol has a bright future as a part of Russia. It will once again become an industrial powerhouse and also a key hub in China’s Belt and Road Initiative! https://t.co/B6NbB2Y5UA pic.twitter.com/qqm2XSP2xZ

— S.L. Kanthan (@Kanthan2030) March 19, 2023

The cognitive dissonance is amazing. They're rebuilding because THEY destroyed the city and industrial area with traditional Russian tactics.

🤡🤡🤡🤡

Those are big words.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Putin flew to nazi-liberated Mariupol by helicopter and then traveled around several city districts by car, making stops to talk to local residents and inspected infrastructure to be rebuilt, in the process of being rebuilt or even completed.

In particular, Khusnullin showed Putin the building of the city philharmonic hall, telling the president that its construction was fully completed in three months.
The reconstruction of the city center of Mariupol, where many historical buildings are located, is planned to be completed by the end of 2023, the deputy prime minister said.

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Wow! Russian President Putin is in Mariupol, checking out the newly constructed buildings and talking to citizens!!

Mariupol has a bright future as a part of Russia. It will once again become an industrial powerhouse and also a key hub in China’s Belt and Road Initiative! https://t.co/B6NbB2Y5UA pic.twitter.com/qqm2XSP2xZ

— S.L. Kanthan (@Kanthan2030) March 19, 2023

The cognitive dissonance is amazing. They're rebuilding because THEY destroyed the city and industrial area with traditional Russian tactics.

🤡🤡🤡🤡

The question in the OP involves who's winnin.

You cuckraine wives are worse than OKOK on a shehawks rant.

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Hint: Putin, the new Hitler, is acting out in response to his arrest warrant.

The Russian tri-color is like a giant schitt stain, thanks to Putin.
And hopefully soon to be soaked in Russian blood.

Patton was right

Quote

How many here want to be Russian?

Stand up and be counted.

I have no desire to be Russian, but in this war, I wish they would both lose, bet that will not happen, so the next best is Russia winning. miles

Originally Posted by milespatton

Quote

How many here want to be Russian?

Stand up and be counted.

I have no desire to be Russian, but in this war, I wish they would both lose, bet that will not happen, so the next best is Russia winning. miles

Russia winning?

So...we have 1. Jag makes 2.

Anyone else?

Russia is winning today

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Russia is winning today

3

Originally Posted by Verylargeboots

As the urban folks would say....

"Y'all muhfukus be drinkin too damn early and stay drinkin too damn late".

Or something to that effect.

What's the word? it's Thunderbird!
And what be the reason? ...Them grapes be in season!
And who drink the most?- Colored folks!...or is it the Campfire boys?

MAGA!

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Putin flew to nazi-liberated Mariupol by helicopter and then traveled around several city districts by car, making stops to talk to local residents and inspected infrastructure to be rebuilt, in the process of being rebuilt or even completed.

In particular, Khusnullin showed Putin the building of the city philharmonic hall, telling the president that its construction was fully completed in three months.
The reconstruction of the city center of Mariupol, where many historical buildings are located, is planned to be completed by the end of 2023, the deputy prime minister said.

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Wow! Russian President Putin is in Mariupol, checking out the newly constructed buildings and talking to citizens!!

Mariupol has a bright future as a part of Russia. It will once again become an industrial powerhouse and also a key hub in China’s Belt and Road Initiative! https://t.co/B6NbB2Y5UA pic.twitter.com/qqm2XSP2xZ

— S.L. Kanthan (@Kanthan2030) March 19, 2023

The cognitive dissonance is amazing. They're rebuilding because THEY destroyed the city and industrial area with traditional Russian tactics.

🤡🤡🤡🤡

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

Wasn't Gilligan's Island comparable in a three hour tour?

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Hint: Putin, the new Hitler, is acting out in response to his arrest warrant.

The Russian tri-color is like a giant schitt stain, thanks to Putin.
And hopefully soon to be soaked in Russian blood.

Patton was right

You are a liar. And you're stupid. So, the new Hitler is destroying the old Hitler instead of joining in with him to rule the world? Right. Hahaha, TFF, Dumbass.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Hint: Putin, the new Hitler, is acting out in response to his arrest warrant.

The Russian tri-color is like a giant schitt stain, thanks to Putin.
And hopefully soon to be soaked in Russian blood.

Patton was right

You are a liar. And you're stupid. So, the new Hitler is destroying the old Hitler instead of joining in with him to rule the world? Right. Hahaha, TFF, Dumbass.

How do you get here? As an American?

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Hint: Putin, the new Hitler, is acting out in response to his arrest warrant.

The Russian tri-color is like a giant schitt stain, thanks to Putin.
And hopefully soon to be soaked in Russian blood.

Patton was right

You are a liar. And you're stupid. So, the new Hitler is destroying the old Hitler instead of joining in with him to rule the world? Right. Hahaha, TFF, Dumbass.

Correct. Putin, the new Hitler.
And time for you to go home to Mother Russia.

Originally Posted by Fubarski

You cuckraine wives are worse than OKOK on a shehawks rant.

Ok, that's funny no matter who you are.

I'd have paid off Jag's bet to see his (OKOK's) face when the Superbowl losing interception happened.

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😜

Originally Posted by JaggedEyeball

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Hint: Putin, the new Hitler, is acting out in response to his arrest warrant.

The Russian tri-color is like a giant schitt stain, thanks to Putin.
And hopefully soon to be soaked in Russian blood.

Patton was right

You are a liar. And you're stupid. So, the new Hitler is destroying the old Hitler instead of joining in with him to rule the world? Right. Hahaha, TFF, Dumbass.

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

At least they had balls and stood for what they believed in...

Ymmv

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

At least they had balls and stood for what they believed in...

Ymmv

Except for the millions who fled the country, and some untold number who are kidnapped off the street and sent to front with no training and poorly equipped. It seems like the people who are "standing" for what they believe in are long dead, or doing the current kidnapping.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

It's a yes or no question. If the Ukes take back Crimea that still applies, right?

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

At least they had balls and stood for what they believed in...

Ymmv

Except for the millions who fled the country, and some untold number who are kidnapped off the street and sent to front with no training and poorly equipped. It seems like the people who are "standing" for what they believe in are long dead, or doing the current kidnapping.

So, why do you denigrate their sacrifice?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

It's a yes or no question. If the Ukes take back Crimea that still applies, right?

Not speaking for anyone else, and following the thread available, I would say it's a qualified yes:
'They' own it for as long as 'they' can hold it.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

It's a yes or no question. If the Ukes take back Crimea that still applies, right?

Sure, they own it as long as they can hold it. But there aren't enough Ukrainians left to take it back. Russia knows that, so they're rebuilding.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

At least they had balls and stood for what they believed in...

Ymmv

Except for the millions who fled the country, and some untold number who are kidnapped off the street and sent to front with no training and poorly equipped. It seems like the people who are "standing" for what they believe in are long dead, or doing the current kidnapping.

So, why do you denigrate their sacrifice?

I don't know where you got that I denigrated their sacrifice. But the ones who had the balls to stand and fight are dead. The only ones left, are fighting cause they're forced to, or the ones who only have the balls to send other people to fight.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

It's a yes or no question. If the Ukes take back Crimea that still applies, right?

Sure, they own it as long as they can hold it. But there aren't enough Ukrainians left to take it back. Russia knows that, so they're rebuilding.

Rebuilding what?

They have shown their kit is crap.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

It's a yes or no question. If the Ukes take back Crimea that still applies, right?

Sure, they own it as long as they can hold it. But there aren't enough Ukrainians left to take it back. Russia knows that, so they're rebuilding.

Rebuilding what?

They have shown their kit is crap.

Mariupol. Try and keep up.

Russia is winning today

We sure have a lot of NAZI supporters on the fire

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Hint: Putin, the new Hitler, is acting out in response to his arrest warrant.

The Russian tri-color is like a giant schitt stain, thanks to Putin.
And hopefully soon to be soaked in Russian blood.

Patton was right

You are a liar. And you're stupid. So, the new Hitler is destroying the old Hitler instead of joining in with him to rule the world? Right. Hahaha, TFF, Dumbass.

Correct. Putin, the new Hitler.
And time for you to go home to Mother Russia.

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Hint: Putin, the new Hitler, is acting out in response to his arrest warrant.

The Russian tri-color is like a giant schitt stain, thanks to Putin.
And hopefully soon to be soaked in Russian blood.

Patton was right

You are a liar. And you're stupid. So, the new Hitler is destroying the old Hitler instead of joining in with him to rule the world? Right. Hahaha, TFF, Dumbass.

Correct. Putin, the new Hitler.
And time for you to go home to Mother Russia.

Putin is the new hitler? Hoe f uckin old are you lmao

The war would be over if the crazies who control the Biden administration hadn't repeatedly scuttled peace talks.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by dassa

They're rebuilding because they now own it, and know they ain't leaving any time soon.

So, if Ukraine takes back Crimea, that "they own it" still applies, right?

That a big "if". And Russia knows it, so they're spending the money to rebuild.

Right now, Ukraine is lucky if they can find enough ambulatory males to get blown all to hell.

It's a yes or no question. If the Ukes take back Crimea that still applies, right?

Sure, they own it as long as they can hold it. But there aren't enough Ukrainians left to take it back. Russia knows that, so they're rebuilding.

Rebuilding what?

They have shown their kit is crap.

Mariupol. Try and keep up.

Would you buy their kit now?

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

Poland wants in.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1637480793655201794

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Poland wants in.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1637480793655201794

Third time's a charm!

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

20 years in Afghanistan and third world goat herders without any artillery, no tanks no navy, no nuke subs, no air force, no satellites, no drones, beat the US and then took billions of our weapons when we fled in disgrace. lol

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

20 years in Afghanistan and third goat herders beat the US and then took billions of our weapons when we fled in disgrace. lol

They didn't beat us.

Your politics did.

Poland is a dangerous country to have in NATO. They have delusions of grandeur and want to go back to the 17th Century when they were the dominant power in Eastern Europe.

They’ll drag us all along for the ride if we aren’t careful.

So the US won that war after spending trillions of dollars? lol

So good job that we invaded Iraq a second time, a sovereign country, to stop their huge cache of fake WMD's.
Another war we lost

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

20 years in Afghanistan and third goat herders beat the US and then took billions of our weapons when we fled in disgrace. lol

They didn't beat us.

Your politics did.

Originally Posted by ribka

So the US won that war after spending trillions of dollars? lol

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

20 years in Afghanistan and third goat herders beat the US and then took billions of our weapons when we fled in disgrace. lol

They didn't beat us.

Your politics did.

Are you dense?

100 hours to take over Iraq...when we cared, politically.

Hook up with the Northern Alliance, how long did the Taliban last? Riding on horses calling in the b-52s.

Politics is why we "lost." Unless you just hate the US and the military.

Hes a demented moron

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Fubarski

This might be a clue, as ta who's winnin:

Also...Russian flags were raised on the Crimean mountains to mark the anniversary of the region's reunification with Russia.

Hint: Putin, the new Hitler, is acting out in response to his arrest warrant.

The Russian tri-color is like a giant schitt stain, thanks to Putin.
And hopefully soon to be soaked in Russian blood.

Patton was right

You are a liar. And you're stupid. So, the new Hitler is destroying the old Hitler instead of joining in with him to rule the world? Right. Hahaha, TFF, Dumbass.

Correct. Putin, the new Hitler.
And time for you to go home to Mother Russia.

Putin is the new hitler? Hoe f uckin old are you lmao

Putin thought he could do the same...

Turns out his kit can't even beat his own kit from decades ago.

Think about it.

So tell me why we invaded Iraq the second time? How many years did we occupy this country?

Why did we bomb the Iraqi civilian population and kill over 500,000 civilians for fake WMD's?

The US has killed over 100,000 Syrians since the invasion of the is sovereign country in 2014. We kill more innocent women and children every day with our sanctions.

lol

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

So the US won that war after spending trillions of dollars? lol

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

20 years in Afghanistan and third goat herders beat the US and then took billions of our weapons when we fled in disgrace. lol

They didn't beat us.

Your politics did.

Are you dense?

100 hours to take over Iraq...when we cared, politically.

Hook up with the Northern Alliance, how long did the Taliban last? Riding on horses calling in the b-52s.

Politics is why we "lost." Unless you just hate the US and the military.

Originally Posted by ribka

So tell me why we invaded Iraq the second time? How many years did we occupy this country?

Why did we bomb the Iraqi civilian population and kill over 500,000 civilians for fake WMD's?

lol

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

So the US won that war after spending trillions of dollars? lol

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

20 years in Afghanistan and third goat herders beat the US and then took billions of our weapons when we fled in disgrace. lol

They didn't beat us.

Your politics did.

Are you dense?

100 hours to take over Iraq...when we cared, politically.

Hook up with the Northern Alliance, how long did the Taliban last? Riding on horses calling in the b-52s.

Politics is why we "lost." Unless you just hate the US and the military.

Because Bush I when he got called...we have Baghdad in sight...

He said stop.

We aren't invading.

That's why it happened a second time.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

The beginning operation was to bring negotiations but the deep state said no to negotiations until the last Ukrainian is dead.

You are unable or unwilling to see both sides and as of late the Russian "kit" looks pretty damn impressive

I am anti American because;

I hate open borders and chemical warfare by the cartels that are killing our people
I hate100s of thousand s of illegal s pouring in to destroy the country for criminal political purposes.
I hate 50K US troops in Poland when they should be on OUR OWN border.
I hate highest, heating, elec, fuel, and food bills
I hate Election fraud where my vote don't count
I hate Hildebitch and the serial liar and his son go free while my President faces phoney witch hunt after witch hunt
I hate Our children are FORCED to accept homosexuality and transsexualism and bow to the "Empire of Lies"
I hate Billions of our tax dollars being squandered for a tranny, money laundering, child trafficking, neo nazi, mega corrupt regime. While our own suffer.
I hate the fact that 100s of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian people have to die for the WEF, NATO, globalist warmongers who refused a peace negotiation.on behalf of their attempts at world domination.
I hate my IRA taking a significant hit.
I hate supporting a corrupt foreign dictatorship when our banks, rail system, etc. are failing.
I hate the criminal president who visits a corrupt, criminal puppet regime but can't visit the people of E. Palestine Ohio.

Have to add this; I love the country I was born in but I hate the Banana Republic that it has become.

Originally Posted by TreeMutt

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

The beginning operation was to bring negotiations but the deep state said no to negotiations until the last Ukrainian is dead.

You are unable or unwilling to see both sides and as of late the Russian "kit" looks pretty damn impressive

I am anti American because;

I hate open borders and chemical warfare by the cartels that are killing our people
I hate100s of thousand s of illegal s pouring in to destroy the country for criminal political purposes.
I hate 50K US troops in Poland when they should be on OUR OWN border.
I hate highest, heating, elec, fuel, and food bills
I hate Election fraud where my vote don't count
I hate Hildebitch and the serial liar and his son go free while my President faces phoney witch hunt after witch hunt
I hate Our children are FORCED to accept homosexuality and transsexualism and bow to the "Empire of Lies"
I hate Billions of our tax dollars being squandered for a tranny, money laundering, child trafficking, neo nazi, mega corrupt regime. While our own suffer.
I hate the fact that 100s of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian people have to die for the WEF, NATO, globalist warmongers who refused a peace negotiation.on behalf of their attempts at world domination.
I hate my IRA taking a significant hit.
I hate supporting a corrupt foreign dictatorship when our banks, rail system, etc. are failing.
I hate the criminal president who visits a corrupt, criminal puppet regime but can't visit the people of E. Palestine Ohio.

Well, hypocritical for sure.

Hillary sitting with Zelenskiys wife after her $100,000 shopping spree in Paris with our tax dollars

Wasting your time. He loves NAZis in Ukraine who killed millions of innocent jews and wants to give them anther 100 billion while our borders remain open, our financial systems collapse and Americans lose all of their savings and retirement.

He's an anti American Biden supporter

Originally Posted by TreeMutt

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

The beginning operation was to bring negotiations but the deep state said no to negotiations until the last Ukrainian is dead.

You are unable or unwilling to see both sides and as of late the Russian "kit" looks pretty damn impressive

I am anti American because;

I hate open borders and chemical warfare by the cartels that are killing our people
I hate100s of thousand s of illegal s pouring in to destroy the country for criminal political purposes.
I hate 50K US troops in Poland when they should be on OUR OWN border.
I hate highest, heating, elec, fuel, and food bills
I hate Election fraud where my vote don't count
I hate Hildebitch and the serial liar and his son go free while my President faces phoney witch hunt after witch hunt
I hate Our children are FORCED to accept homosexuality and transsexualism and bow to the "Empire of Lies"
I hate Billions of our tax dollars being squandered for a tranny, money laundering, child trafficking, neo nazi, mega corrupt regime. While our own suffer.
I hate the fact that 100s of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian people have to die for the WEF, NATO, globalist warmongers who refused a peace negotiation.on behalf of their attempts at world domination.
I hate my IRA taking a significant hit.
I hate supporting a corrupt foreign dictatorship when our banks, rail system, etc. are failing.
I hate the criminal president who visits a corrupt, criminal puppet regime but can't visit the people of E. Palestine Ohio.

Have to add this; I love the country I was born in but I hate the Banana Republic that it has become.

I am a great military strategist.
This was just a minor setback.
[Linked Image from ichef.bbci.co.uk]

Originally Posted by ribka

Wasting your time. He loves NAZis in Ukraine who killed millions of innocent jews

Originally Posted by TreeMutt

Originally Posted by Jcubed

3 day special operation...a year on now.

The Ru can't even blow up their own kit from decades ago...

It is pretty sad.

The beginning operation was to bring negotiations but the deep state said no to negotiations until the last Ukrainian is dead.

You are unable or unwilling to see both sides and as of late the Russian "kit" looks pretty damn impressive

I am anti American because;

I hate open borders and chemical warfare by the cartels that are killing our people
I hate100s of thousand s of illegal s pouring in to destroy the country for criminal political purposes.
I hate 50K US troops in Poland when they should be on OUR OWN border.
I hate highest, heating, elec, fuel, and food bills
I hate Election fraud where my vote don't count
I hate Hildebitch and the serial liar and his son go free while my President faces phoney witch hunt after witch hunt
I hate Our children are FORCED to accept homosexuality and transsexualism and bow to the "Empire of Lies"
I hate Billions of our tax dollars being squandered for a tranny, money laundering, child trafficking, neo nazi, mega corrupt regime. While our own suffer.
I hate the fact that 100s of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian people have to die for the WEF, NATO, globalist warmongers who refused a peace negotiation.on behalf of their attempts at world domination.
I hate my IRA taking a significant hit.
I hate supporting a corrupt foreign dictatorship when our banks, rail system, etc. are failing.
I hate the criminal president who visits a corrupt, criminal puppet regime but can't visit the people of E. Palestine Ohio.

Have to add this; I love the country I was born in but I hate the Banana Republic that it has become.

Nope. Just don't like liars.

More NAZi worship

Originally Posted by ribka

More NAZi worship

So you love communists and the KGB?

I'm really confused as to what you want?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Poland is a dangerous country to have in NATO. They have delusions of grandeur and want to go back to the 17th Century when they were the dominant power in Eastern Europe.

They’ll drag us all along for the ride if we aren’t careful.

Winged Hussars but in M1A2s and F-35 JSFs would be kewl.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So you love communists and the KGB?

I'm really confused as to what you want?

Who loves communists and the KGB?

Personally I believe Russia is justified in pushing a NATO suck-ass government off his border. That doesn't equate to love for anything in Europe.

We have troubles at our border but unlike Russia's issue with Ukraine (NATO) at least Mexico at present isn't organized to destroy our nation. Now I do admit that Mexico lives as a parasite and sucks a lot of value from the USA but unlike the war in Europe they aren't as a nation dedicated to our demise.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So you love communists and the KGB?

I'm really confused as to what you want?

Who loves communists and the KGB?

Personally I believe Russia is justified in pushing a NATO suck-ass government off his border. That doesn't equate to love for anything in Europe.

We have troubles at our border but unlike Russia's issue with Ukraine (NATO) at least Mexico at present isn't organized to destroy our nation. Now I do admit that Mexico lives as a parasite and sucks a lot of value from the USA but unlike the war in Europe they aren't as a nation dedicated to our demise.

You should not be in the discussion if you don't even know Ukraine is not a NATO country.

Are you going to invest in and pray for the Orcs to attack Finland and Sweden when they are admitted into NATO?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So you love communists and the KGB?

I'm really confused as to what you want?

Who loves communists and the KGB?

Personally I believe Russia is justified in pushing a NATO suck-ass government off his border. That doesn't equate to love for anything in Europe.

We have troubles at our border but unlike Russia's issue with Ukraine (NATO) at least Mexico at present isn't organized to destroy our nation. Now I do admit that Mexico lives as a parasite and sucks a lot of value from the USA but unlike the war in Europe they aren't as a nation dedicated to our demise.

You should not be in the discussion if you don't even know Ukraine is not a NATO country.

Are you going to invest in and pray for the Orcs to attack Finland and Sweden when they are admitted into NATO?

I still want to know...

After a YEAR, why are Ukrainians still willing to spill their blood for their country?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So you love communists and the KGB?

I'm really confused as to what you want?

Who loves communists and the KGB?

Personally I believe Russia is justified in pushing a NATO suck-ass government off his border. That doesn't equate to love for anything in Europe.

We have troubles at our border but unlike Russia's issue with Ukraine (NATO) at least Mexico at present isn't organized to destroy our nation. Now I do admit that Mexico lives as a parasite and sucks a lot of value from the USA but unlike the war in Europe they aren't as a nation dedicated to our demise.

Apparently, you do.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I still want to know...

After a YEAR, why are Ukrainians still willing to spill their blood for their country?

According to the Putin Pufters Zman is kidnapping children and old folks to hold the line in Bakhmut against the best Orc troops in the hardest fighting.

Appearently they are only given hours of training and are able to use armour, HIMARS, M777 howitzers, mortars, drones, and are pretty good at MOUT/CQB fighting.

Must be something in the water in Ukraine but we used to have some pretty tough kids here.

Saw a documentary about them back in the 80s.

[Linked Image from ar15.com]

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So you love communists and the KGB?

I'm really confused as to what you want?

Who loves communists and the KGB?

Personally I believe Russia is justified in pushing a NATO suck-ass government off his border. That doesn't equate to love for anything in Europe.

We have troubles at our border but unlike Russia's issue with Ukraine (NATO) at least Mexico at present isn't organized to destroy our nation. Now I do admit that Mexico lives as a parasite and sucks a lot of value from the USA but unlike the war in Europe they aren't as a nation dedicated to our demise.

You should not be in the discussion if you don't even know Ukraine is not a NATO country.

Are you going to invest in and pray for the Orcs to attack Finland and Sweden when they are admitted into NATO?

Sir: I do know that Ukraine is not officially a NATO country. It was being used by the USA and NATO to gouge and threaten Russia seemingly in hopes of provoking war. Russia must be destroyed if the WEF, NWO, Soros, Gates, Klaus Schwab plan is to succeed. Otherwise China and India cannot be brought to heel.

This is a NATO provoked war. The only question is what is the ultimate aim.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So you love communists and the KGB?

I'm really confused as to what you want?

Who loves communists and the KGB?

Personally I believe Russia is justified in pushing a NATO suck-ass government off his border. That doesn't equate to love for anything in Europe.

We have troubles at our border but unlike Russia's issue with Ukraine (NATO) at least Mexico at present isn't organized to destroy our nation. Now I do admit that Mexico lives as a parasite and sucks a lot of value from the USA but unlike the war in Europe they aren't as a nation dedicated to our demise.

You should not be in the discussion if you don't even know Ukraine is not a NATO country.

Are you going to invest in and pray for the Orcs to attack Finland and Sweden when they are admitted into NATO?

I believe he said, "NATO suck as$ country", not nato member.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So you love communists and the KGB?

I'm really confused as to what you want?

Who loves communists and the KGB?

Personally I believe Russia is justified in pushing a NATO suck-ass government off his border. That doesn't equate to love for anything in Europe.

We have troubles at our border but unlike Russia's issue with Ukraine (NATO) at least Mexico at present isn't organized to destroy our nation. Now I do admit that Mexico lives as a parasite and sucks a lot of value from the USA but unlike the war in Europe they aren't as a nation dedicated to our demise.

You should not be in the discussion if you don't even know Ukraine is not a NATO country.

Are you going to invest in and pray for the Orcs to attack Finland and Sweden when they are admitted into NATO?

I still want to know...

After a YEAR, why are Ukrainians still willing to spill their blood for their country?

Not many of them are. But a lot of them seem willing to abduct other Ukrainians and send them to die for Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

So you love communists and the KGB?

I'm really confused as to what you want?

Who loves communists and the KGB?

Personally I believe Russia is justified in pushing a NATO suck-ass government off his border. That doesn't equate to love for anything in Europe.

We have troubles at our border but unlike Russia's issue with Ukraine (NATO) at least Mexico at present isn't organized to destroy our nation. Now I do admit that Mexico lives as a parasite and sucks a lot of value from the USA but unlike the war in Europe they aren't as a nation dedicated to our demise.

You should not be in the discussion if you don't even know Ukraine is not a NATO country.

Are you going to invest in and pray for the Orcs to attack Finland and Sweden when they are admitted into NATO?

Sir: I do know that Ukraine is not officially a NATO country. It was being used by the USA and NATO to gouge and threaten Russia seemingly in hopes of provoking war. Russia must be destroyed if the WEF, NWO, Soros, Gates, Klaus Schwab plan is to succeed. Otherwise China and India cannot be brought to heel.

This is a NATO provoked war. The only question is what is the ultimate aim.

Russia invaded.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Russia invaded.

So? Any idea why? Any idea why we should involve ourselves?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Sir: I do know that Ukraine is not officially a NATO country. It was being used by the USA and NATO to gouge and threaten Russia seemingly in hopes of provoking war. Russia must be destroyed if the WEF, NWO, Soros, Gates, Klaus Schwab plan is to succeed. Otherwise China and India cannot be brought to heel.

This is a NATO provoked war. The only question is what is the ultimate aim.

Russia invaded.

I remember when good Americans would be willing to fight off an invader.

I understand why Ukraine is doing that right now.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Why a few here on the Campfire have such love for Puty Boi and his ally Xi is not something I understand.

For all you Ukrainian loyalists (who couldn’t find it on a map) that scream, wail and grind your teeth over “Russia Invaded” my question is ….would the USA be justified invading Mexico over the current border crisis, fentanyl, kidnappings and murders carried out by the cartels with the government’s blessing?

Would we be justified invading a country in order to protect ours?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Russia invaded.

So? Any idea why? Any idea why we should involve ourselves?

Let the Ukrainians fight. As they are.

Is this hard?

Anyone with a functioning brain knows we, Canada and the USA should not be involved.

Ukraine was a corrupt country before and continues to be corrupt, they should be left alone.

Some how the leader has been able to have his wife spend a small fortune shopping for luxuries, bought a house or more for family members, that should have woken a few up.

It is a fool that thinks any of us needs to support another country or risk our own sons and daughters for nothing.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

For all you Ukrainian loyalists (who couldn’t find it on a map) that scream, wail and grind your teeth over “Russia Invaded” my question is ….would the USA be justified invading Mexico over the current border crisis, fentanyl, kidnappings and murders carried out by the cartels with the government’s blessing?

Would we be justified invading a country in order to protect ours?

Welcome to the conversation.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Sir: I do know that Ukraine is not officially a NATO country. It was being used by the USA and NATO to gouge and threaten Russia seemingly in hopes of provoking war. Russia must be destroyed if the WEF, NWO, Soros, Gates, Klaus Schwab plan is to succeed. Otherwise China and India cannot be brought to heel.

This is a NATO provoked war. The only question is what is the ultimate aim.

Russia invaded.

I remember when good Americans would be willing to fight off an invader.

I understand why Ukraine is doing that right now.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Why a few here on the Campfire have such love for Puty Boi and his ally Xi is not something I understand.

Your love of Zelensky is of homosexual & pedophilic nature ...

Your rank & file always jump in to protect & preserve each other

The fact is that you are only concerned with resuming your flow of 12 yr old Uke boy pizza is why you hate the Russkies ...

You don't give one damn about the Ukrainian citizens other than the supply of young boys for your perversions

Keeping Zman in power & destroying the Orcs will continue the pizza deliveries

You're a sick pedophile

Originally Posted by Swamplord

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Sir: I do know that Ukraine is not officially a NATO country. It was being used by the USA and NATO to gouge and threaten Russia seemingly in hopes of provoking war. Russia must be destroyed if the WEF, NWO, Soros, Gates, Klaus Schwab plan is to succeed. Otherwise China and India cannot be brought to heel.

This is a NATO provoked war. The only question is what is the ultimate aim.

Russia invaded.

I remember when good Americans would be willing to fight off an invader.

I understand why Ukraine is doing that right now.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Why a few here on the Campfire have such love for Puty Boi and his ally Xi is not something I understand.

Your love of Zelensky is of homosexual & pedophilic nature ...

Your rank & file always jump in to protect & preserve each other

The fact is that you are only concerned with resuming your flow of 12 yr old Uke boy pizza is why you hate the Russkies ...

You don't give one damn about the Ukrainian citizens other than the supply of young boys for your perversions

Keeping Zman in power & destroying the Orcs will continue the pizza deliveries

You're a sick pedophile

Yeah, no.

A civil war is eminent here. I do not GAF about anything in Europe right now, other than they hope we all die by our own hand.

Can anyone deny Russia invaded?

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

For all you Ukrainian loyalists (who couldn’t find it on a map) that scream, wail and grind your teeth over “Russia Invaded” my question is ….would the USA be justified invading Mexico over the current border crisis, fentanyl, kidnappings and murders carried out by the cartels with the government’s blessing?

Would we be justified invading a country in order to protect ours?

While I am obviously an USA First guy I would say yes we might have to invade Mexico if things at the border stay bad and keep getting worse.

That said Trump showed an invasion is not required if one plays hardball with Mexico and all of South America.

As a USA First proponent I view everything as USA First and don't accept the Globalist view that the USA should have to follow some kind of Global Rules.

One of the many reasons I don't support the ICC.

Putin Pufters like the do the WhatAboutisms that just don't apply to my USA.

Being the World Super Power has perks such as World Reserve Currency status which benifits all of us in the USA.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Russia invaded.

So? Any idea why? Any idea why we should involve ourselves?

Let the Ukrainians fight. As they are.

Is this hard?

With our money and our weapons that WE purchased for our own self defense? How many hundreds of billions of dollars should we send them? Do you have a cutoff or would you simply offer them a blank check payable by the American taxpayer?

What’s so hard about letting Ukraine fight and kill as many Russians as they want…..WITHOUT HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS MORE OF OUR MONEY…WITHOUT SPENDING MORE IN UKRAINE THAN THE ENTIRE AFGHANISTAN DEBACLE COST?

I DGAF that Ukraine didn’t spend the last 30 years preparing. I don’t GAF that Ukraine spent the international “aid” on gifts for their elite rather than their military. I don’t GAF if Ukraine is unable to repel border invasions because they never invested in or worried about their borders before they saddled up to the USA and Europe while flipping the finger to their biggest border threat. I don’t GAF about an Eastern European former Soviet satellite that speaks, acts fights and worships like their Mother Russia. I also DGAF that Ukraine VOTED to NOT join NATO back when they were offered it.

I don’t GAF about Ukraine….they are NOT our responsibility!….they’ve NEVER been our responsibility. Anyone saying they hate commies as a justification for our involvement in Ukraine is beyond being a fu.cking idiot…Ukraine and Russia ARE ONE AND THE SAME! There is not a thimbles worth of difference between them….there is no freedom fighters in any of this! A dead Ukrainian soldier is the same as a dead Russian soldier….one less cock sucker that would gladly shoulder their AK-74 and shoot at American soldiers…same-same as a Russian.

I don’t consider any military that in 2023 is fielding Soviet military hardware including missiles and outfitting their soldiers with Soviet small arms to be a part of the “freedom alliance”. 😂

Let Ukraine kill as many Russians as possible and let Russia kill as many Ukrainians as possible….without the USA sending anything else.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Sir: I do know that Ukraine is not officially a NATO country. It was being used by the USA and NATO to gouge and threaten Russia seemingly in hopes of provoking war. Russia must be destroyed if the WEF, NWO, Soros, Gates, Klaus Schwab plan is to succeed. Otherwise China and India cannot be brought to heel.

This is a NATO provoked war. The only question is what is the ultimate aim.

Russia invaded.

I remember when good Americans would be willing to fight off an invader.

I understand why Ukraine is doing that right now.

[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]

Why a few here on the Campfire have such love for Puty Boi and his ally Xi is not something I understand.

Originally Posted by Swamplord

Your love of Zelensky is of homosexual & pedophilic nature ...

Your rank & file always jump in to protect & preserve each other

The fact is that you are only concerned with resuming your flow of 12 yr old Uke boy pizza is why you hate the Russkies ...

You don't give one damn about the Ukrainian citizens other than the supply of young boys for your perversions

Keeping Zman in power & destroying the Orcs will continue the pizza deliveries

You're a sick pedophile

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Russia invaded.

So? Any idea why? Any idea why we should involve ourselves?

Let the Ukrainians fight. As they are.

Is this hard?

With our money and our weapons that WE purchased for our own self defense? How many hundreds of billions of dollars should we send them? Do you have a cutoff or would you simply offer them a blank check payable by the American taxpayer?

What’s so hard about letting Ukraine fight and kill as many Russians as they want…..WITHOUT HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS MORE OF OUR MONEY…WITHOUT SPENDING MORE IN UKRAINE THAN THE ENTIRE AFGHANISTAN DEBACLE COST?

I DGAF that Ukraine didn’t spend the last 30 years preparing. I don’t GAF that Ukraine spent the international “aid” on gifts for their elite rather than their military. I don’t GAF if Ukraine is unable to repel border invasions because they never invested in or worried about their borders before they saddled up to the USA and Europe while flipping the finger to their biggest border threat. I don’t GAF about an Eastern European former Soviet satellite that speaks, acts fights and worships like their Mother Russia.

I don’t GAF about Ukraine….they are NOT our responsibility!….they’ve NEVER been our responsibility. Anyone saying they hate commies as a justification for our involvement in Ukraine is beyond being a fu.cking idiot…Ukraine and Russia ARE ONE AND THE SAME! There is not a thimbles worth of difference between them….there is no freedom fighters in any of this! A dead Ukrainian soldier is the same as a dead Russian soldier….one less cock sucker that would gladly shoulder their AK-74 and shoot at American soldiers…same-same as a Russian.

I don’t consider any military that in 2023 is fielding Soviet military hardware including missiles and outfitting their soldiers with Soviet small arms to be a part of the “freedom alliance”. 😂

Let Ukraine kill as many Russians as possible and let Russia kill as many Ukrainians as possible….without the USA sending anything else.

Because they are humans. As a Christian man myself, I will support them after being invaded.

I would hope other nations would support us too.

Ymmv

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Shhhhhhh

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

For all you Ukrainian loyalists (who couldn’t find it on a map) that scream, wail and grind your teeth over “Russia Invaded” my question is ….would the USA be justified invading Mexico over the current border crisis, fentanyl, kidnappings and murders carried out by the cartels with the government’s blessing?

Would we be justified invading a country in order to protect ours?

While I am obviously an USA First guy I would say yes we might have to invade Mexico if things at the border stay bad and keep getting worse.

That said Trump showed an invasion is not required if one plays hardball with Mexico and all of South America.

As a USA First proponent I view everything as USA First and don't accept the Globalist view that the USA should have to follow some kind of Global Rules.

One of the many reasons I don't support the ICC.

Putin Pufters like the do the WhatAboutisms that just don't apply to my USA.

Being the World Super Power has perks such as World Reserve Currency status which benifits all of us in the USA.

John…Thanks for the reply. Taking your post at face value and not viewing it in light of your support of Ukraine I find absolutely nothing that I disagree with.

On the other hand if Russia viewed Ukraine the way we view Mexico then one could say that Russia is doing what they need to do to secure their border….they feel justified doing in Ukraine what we would feel justified doing Mexico. It’s a matter of perspective and NOBODY in the USA has any, at least not as it applies to the Russia-Ukraine border and the endless European geopolitical squabbles. It’s been a NON-STOP problem in Europe for millennia and was enough of a danger that our Founding Fathers warned us about getting involved in the never ending wars of Europe.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Russia invaded.

So? Any idea why? Any idea why we should involve ourselves?

Let the Ukrainians fight. As they are.

Is this hard?

With our money and our weapons that WE purchased for our own self defense? How many hundreds of billions of dollars should we send them? Do you have a cutoff or would you simply offer them a blank check payable by the American taxpayer?

What’s so hard about letting Ukraine fight and kill as many Russians as they want…..WITHOUT HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS MORE OF OUR MONEY…WITHOUT SPENDING MORE IN UKRAINE THAN THE ENTIRE AFGHANISTAN DEBACLE COST?

I DGAF that Ukraine didn’t spend the last 30 years preparing. I don’t GAF that Ukraine spent the international “aid” on gifts for their elite rather than their military. I don’t GAF if Ukraine is unable to repel border invasions because they never invested in or worried about their borders before they saddled up to the USA and Europe while flipping the finger to their biggest border threat. I don’t GAF about an Eastern European former Soviet satellite that speaks, acts fights and worships like their Mother Russia.

I don’t GAF about Ukraine….they are NOT our responsibility!….they’ve NEVER been our responsibility. Anyone saying they hate commies as a justification for our involvement in Ukraine is beyond being a fu.cking idiot…Ukraine and Russia ARE ONE AND THE SAME! There is not a thimbles worth of difference between them….there is no freedom fighters in any of this! A dead Ukrainian soldier is the same as a dead Russian soldier….one less cock sucker that would gladly shoulder their AK-74 and shoot at American soldiers…same-same as a Russian.

I don’t consider any military that in 2023 is fielding Soviet military hardware including missiles and outfitting their soldiers with Soviet small arms to be a part of the “freedom alliance”. 😂

Let Ukraine kill as many Russians as possible and let Russia kill as many Ukrainians as possible….without the USA sending anything else.

Because they are humans. As a Christian man myself, I will support them after being invaded.

I would hope other nations would support us too.

Ymmv

So your support of Ukraine is purely out of love and compassion for your fellow man? Seriously?….that’s your justification for supporting Ukraine?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

While I am obviously an USA First guy I would say yes we might have to invade Mexico if things at the border stay bad and keep getting worse.

That said Trump showed an invasion is not required if one plays hardball with Mexico and all of South America.

As a USA First proponent I view everything as USA First and don't accept the Globalist view that the USA should have to follow some kind of Global Rules.

One of the many reasons I don't support the ICC.

Putin Pufters like the do the WhatAboutisms that just don't apply to my USA.

Being the World Super Power has perks such as World Reserve Currency status which benifits all of us in the USA.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

John…Thanks for the reply. Taking your post at face value and not viewing it in light of your support of Ukraine I find absolutely nothing that I disagree with.

On the other hand if Russia viewed Ukraine the way we view Mexico then one could say that Russia is doing what they need to do to secure their border….they feel justified doing in Ukraine what we would feel justified doing Mexico. It’s a matter of perspective and NOBODY in the USA has any, at least not as it applies to the Russia-Ukraine border and the endless European geopolitical squabbles. It’s been a NON-STOP problem in Europe for millennia and was enough of a danger that our Founding Fathers warned us about getting involved in the never ending wars of Europe.

Where we differ is that I don't consider the USA and Russia as moral equivalents.

We built the weapons we are Lend/Leasing Ukraine to counter the Orc threat.

Ukraine is killing the exact same tanks for which we built those Javelins.

HIMARS are destroying the exact ammo, supplies, artillary and Orc leadership for which we built them.

And it's getting done with any American blood being spilled.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Russia invaded.

So? Any idea why? Any idea why we should involve ourselves?

Let the Ukrainians fight. As they are.

Is this hard?

With our money and our weapons that WE purchased for our own self defense? How many hundreds of billions of dollars should we send them? Do you have a cutoff or would you simply offer them a blank check payable by the American taxpayer?

What’s so hard about letting Ukraine fight and kill as many Russians as they want…..WITHOUT HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS MORE OF OUR MONEY…WITHOUT SPENDING MORE IN UKRAINE THAN THE ENTIRE AFGHANISTAN DEBACLE COST?

I DGAF that Ukraine didn’t spend the last 30 years preparing. I don’t GAF that Ukraine spent the international “aid” on gifts for their elite rather than their military. I don’t GAF if Ukraine is unable to repel border invasions because they never invested in or worried about their borders before they saddled up to the USA and Europe while flipping the finger to their biggest border threat. I don’t GAF about an Eastern European former Soviet satellite that speaks, acts fights and worships like their Mother Russia.

I don’t GAF about Ukraine….they are NOT our responsibility!….they’ve NEVER been our responsibility. Anyone saying they hate commies as a justification for our involvement in Ukraine is beyond being a fu.cking idiot…Ukraine and Russia ARE ONE AND THE SAME! There is not a thimbles worth of difference between them….there is no freedom fighters in any of this! A dead Ukrainian soldier is the same as a dead Russian soldier….one less cock sucker that would gladly shoulder their AK-74 and shoot at American soldiers…same-same as a Russian.

I don’t consider any military that in 2023 is fielding Soviet military hardware including missiles and outfitting their soldiers with Soviet small arms to be a part of the “freedom alliance”. 😂

Let Ukraine kill as many Russians as possible and let Russia kill as many Ukrainians as possible….without the USA sending anything else.

Because they are humans. As a Christian man myself, I will support them after being invaded.

I would hope other nations would support us too.

Ymmv

So your support of Ukraine is purely out of love and compassion for your fellow man? Seriously?….that’s your justification for supporting Ukraine?

I support borders...

Do you?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can anyone deny Russia invaded?

Who cares and why?

BTW, Russia is winning today....

John….I remember reading you stating that early on in this war, Ukrainians killing Russians with our weapons that were designed to kill Russians without American blood being spilled. I can’t and won’t argue that angle because I believe it’s actually the one angle I can understand.

My issue with this from the beginning has been NOT creating a bigger war out of this and NOT bankrupting our broke asses over this. Those two issues are my primary concern and remain so. I’ve been less concerned with us sending our old military crap to Ukraine than I am about the money we’re sending since I fear very little of the money gets to where it can do some good.

I appreciate your reasoned reply.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

For all you Ukrainian loyalists (who couldn’t find it on a map) that scream, wail and grind your teeth over “Russia Invaded” my question is ….would the USA be justified invading Mexico over the current border crisis, fentanyl, kidnappings and murders carried out by the cartels with the government’s blessing?

Would we be justified invading a country in order to protect ours?

While I am obviously an USA First guy I would say yes we might have to invade Mexico if things at the border stay bad and keep getting worse.

That said Trump showed an invasion is not required if one plays hardball with Mexico and all of South America.

As a USA First proponent I view everything as USA First and don't accept the Globalist view that the USA should have to follow some kind of Global Rules.

One of the many reasons I don't support the ICC.

Putin Pufters like the do the WhatAboutisms that just don't apply to my USA.

Being the World Super Power has perks such as World Reserve Currency status which benifits all of us in the USA.

John…Thanks for the reply. Taking your post at face value and not viewing it in light of your support of Ukraine I find absolutely nothing that I disagree with.

On the other hand if Russia viewed Ukraine the way we view Mexico then one could say that Russia is doing what they need to do to secure their border….they feel justified doing in Ukraine what we would feel justified doing Mexico. It’s a matter of perspective and NOBODY in the USA has any, at least not as it applies to the Russia-Ukraine border and the endless European geopolitical squabbles. It’s been a NON-STOP problem in Europe for millennia and was enough of a danger that our Founding Fathers warned us about getting involved in the never ending wars of Europe.

Burns is a hypocrite. He tries to hide it by saying it's patriotism, but his threat to shoot fellow Americans puts the lie to that.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Can anyone deny Russia invaded?

Who cares and why?

Wow.

I like turtles

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

There's still money to be made.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

Why, exactly, would the White House be entertaining anything?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

Why, exactly, would the White House be entertaining anything?

Esp if we aren't at war...

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

There's still money to be made.

That, and Democrats start Wars and want them to continue. Why do Democrats start wars?

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

There's still money to be made.

That, and Democrats start Wars and want them to continue. Why do Democrats start wars?

Ask your neighbor.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

Why, exactly, would the White House be entertaining anything?

They aren’t….that’s the point! 😂

Once upon a time in America we would be the arbiters of peace agreements and ceasefires and in doing so we increased our credibility on the world stage. Nowadays it is China that is taking the lead in ceasefires and peace accords which increases their credibility on the world stage. Death by a thousand cuts…

Perhaps a better way to phrase the question so that it can’t be intentionally twisted into ignorance…..Why would the White House attempt to prevent a ceasefire in Ukraine?

Because it is a Democrat White House.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

Why, exactly, would the White House be entertaining anything?

They aren’t….that’s the point! 😂

Once upon a time in America we would be the arbiters of peace agreements and ceasefires and in doing so we increased our credibility on the world stage. Nowadays it is China that is taking the lead in ceasefires and peace accords which increases their credibility on the world stage. Death by a thousand cuts…

Perhaps a better way to phrase the question so that it can’t be intentionally twisted into ignorance…..Why would the White House attempt to prevent a ceasefire in Ukraine?

Cause they are killing russians?

How is this hard for AMERICANS to understand?

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

As in who gets a piece of the Ukraine foreign aid pie?

We are paying for cocaine and fake [bleep]….

F u c k it.,,,,

I wanna bump

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Perhaps a better way to phrase the question so that it can’t be intentionally twisted into ignorance…..

You are seriously underestimating his ignorance.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

How is this hard for AMERICANS to understand?

Quote

RUSSIA’S INVASION OF UKRAINE IS NOT A TOP CONCERN OF AMERICAN VOTERS Thursday, February 23, 2023

When voters were asked to name the top five most important foreign policy issues facing the United States, terrorism was first with 49% mentioning the issue, immigration second with 45%, cyberattacks with 41%, drug trafficking at 41%, and climate change at 39%.

It is noteworthy that these issues may be international, but they have strong implications for domestic policy as well. U.S./China relations was mentioned 27% of the time, and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was mentioned 24% of the time.

Upholding democracy globally was mentioned only 14% of the time. Americans appear to be more concerned about potential issues at home, versus wide ranging geopolitical events with not yet clear ramifications.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

How is this hard for AMERICANS to understand?

Quote

RUSSIA’S INVASION OF UKRAINE IS NOT A TOP CONCERN OF AMERICAN VOTERS Thursday, February 23, 2023

When voters were asked to name the top five most important foreign policy issues facing the United States, terrorism was first with 49% mentioning the issue, immigration second with 45%, cyberattacks with 41%, drug trafficking at 41%, and climate change at 39%.

It is noteworthy that these issues may be international, but they have strong implications for domestic policy as well. U.S./China relations was mentioned 27% of the time, and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was mentioned 24% of the time.

Upholding democracy globally was mentioned only 14% of the time. Americans appear to be more concerned about potential issues at home, versus wide ranging geopolitical events with not yet clear ramifications.

So, you believe in polls now?

Tell me more.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

Why, exactly, would the White House be entertaining anything?

Perhaps a better way to phrase the question so that it can’t be intentionally twisted into ignorance…..Why would the White House attempt to prevent a ceasefire in Ukraine?

The Orcs would love a cease fire to try and solidify lines and bring in more cannon fodder.

They are stuck and Ukraine with Western Armour is waiting for the ground to dry up for a massive push.

If you believe the Orcs were justified in their invasion then they will start it back up when they have refitted.

The only thing that really has changed from the begining of the invasion is Finland and Sweden are joining NATO and Ukraine has a whole lot more NATO arms and amunition.

Ukraine never would have allowed NATO to park Nukes in country before the invasion but would welcome those same Nukes nowdays.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

How is this hard for AMERICANS to understand?

Quote

RUSSIA’S INVASION OF UKRAINE IS NOT A TOP CONCERN OF AMERICAN VOTERS Thursday, February 23, 2023

When voters were asked to name the top five most important foreign policy issues facing the United States, terrorism was first with 49% mentioning the issue, immigration second with 45%, cyberattacks with 41%, drug trafficking at 41%, and climate change at 39%.

It is noteworthy that these issues may be international, but they have strong implications for domestic policy as well. U.S./China relations was mentioned 27% of the time, and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was mentioned 24% of the time.

Upholding democracy globally was mentioned only 14% of the time. Americans appear to be more concerned about potential issues at home, versus wide ranging geopolitical events with not yet clear ramifications.

So, you believe in polls now?

Tell me more.

That was from a Brookings article. Do you suggest they are unreliable?

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I wanna know why the White House will not entertain piece talks that were recently suggested.

There's still money to be made.

That, and Democrats start Wars and want them to continue. Why do Democrats start wars?

Cause there's money to be made.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

And it's getting done with any American blood being spilled.

Yet.

And how stupid are we to spend another nickel on Europe's disagreements? Those people have been killing each other over the same real estate for well over 2000 years. And would be for another 2000 except that weapons technology might have advanced enough to completely clear the deck.

Think about it. No matter who is right or who is wrong. No matter who invaded who and whether it was justified what possibility is there that our money and next our blood is going to solve anything or make anything right?

It is simply not our problem and we have no ability to do anything but make things worse. As we always have done.

Cocaine into Ukraine?

Winning?

"Asking about top foreign policy concerns" is a very different type of poll question than say, "Do you support the United States providing weapons and financial support to Ukraine?"

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...upport-us-aid-to-ukraine-against-russia/

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A new poll found that 42 percent of Republicans support the United States providing weapons and financial support to Ukraine.

The Axios/Ipsos Two Americas Index found that Republican support on aiding Ukraine is lower than what all American adults support. Three in five Americans, or 59 percent, say that they support the U.S. providing weapons and sending financial support to Ukraine in its year-long conflict with Russia, and 79 percent of Democrats said that they support this kind of aid.

Among independents, 60 percent of them support aiding Ukraine financially and by sending weapons.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Cause they are killing russians?

So you’re against a ceasefire because they are killing Russians? How many Ukrainians die for every dead Russian?

You do realize that your Ukrainian “human beings” are being killed at a rate much higher than the Russian “human beings”.

If one truly cared about “human beings” and the toll it’s taking on the human population of Ukraine they’d not be sitting in their lounge chair 10,000 miles away encouraging the continuation of war when a ceasefire was possible.

Ex-SEAL Dies in Ukraine; 6th Known American Killed in War

Hmmm so no American blood, sad to see some don’t know you have lost Americans and blood was spilled.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Cause they are killing russians?

So you’re against a ceasefire because they are killing Russians? How many Ukrainians die for every dead Russian?

You do realize that your Ukrainian “human beings” are being killed at a rate much higher than the Russian “human beings”.

If one truly cared about “human beings” and the toll it’s taking on the human population of Ukraine they’d not be sitting in their lounge chair 10,000 miles away encouraging the continuation of war when a ceasefire was possible.

Sources I find credible have the exchange rate at 1 Ukraine for 7 Orcs in the Bakhmut fight.

That's why Ukraine has stayed in Bakhmut. If the Orcs were killing more in the attack they would have taken Bakhmut last year.

Attackers always lose more troops than defenders when an attack succeeds.

When an attack fails the attacker loses many more and the Orcs have been throwing human wave attacks at Bakhmut for months.

The Orc attacks in other areas have seen even higher loses when they try and attack across open field sown with mines and preranged for artillery.

The Russians are proud of the willingness to suffer huge losses.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Cause they are killing russians?

So you’re against a ceasefire because they are killing Russians? How many Ukrainians die for every dead Russian?

You do realize that your Ukrainian “human beings” are being killed at a rate much higher than the Russian “human beings”.

If one truly cared about “human beings” and the toll it’s taking on the human population of Ukraine they’d not be sitting in their lounge chair 10,000 miles away encouraging the continuation of war when a ceasefire was possible.

Yes, I realize human beings are being killed.

Putin started this mess. Do you realize that? His army, his tanks, air force etc...

Originally Posted by Partsman

Ex-SEAL Dies in Ukraine; 6th Known American Killed in War

Hmmm so no American blood, sad to see some don’t know you have lost Americans and blood was spilled.

I'd bet money that there's been many more than that. The real number can't be revealed without admitting the true extent of America's involvement in the conflict.

It's a damn shame, really. High achieving, good American men are getting killed because they lack the ability to rationalize out how stupid it is to put themselves in a war zone that's been orchestrated by the leftist crazies in the American government.

How is this hard to understand?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

How is this hard to understand?

How is what hard to understand? Your number of excuses reasons why we should be involved? That Ukrainians are human beings? That you support borders? That a ceasefire is a bad idea because it prevents the further killing of “human beings”? Those are just a few of your reasons given on this thread alone…if you could choose one excuse reason and articulate your position with full sentences and complete thoughts you might be easier to understand. Your shotgun approach to justifying your support looks weak and precarious at best.

"Putin started this mess. Do you realize that? His army, his tanks, air force etc..."

That's a lie! And you should know it by now. Anyone with an honest approach to this mess knows US Neocons spent $5 Billion tax dollars overthrowing Ukraine's democratically elected government, precipitating a civil war that killed 14,000 Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens. CIA bio weapons labs on Russia's border? Threat of NATO missiles that no sane country would permit? You really need to wake up. Russia's enemies are our enemies.

Originally Posted by Crash_Pad

"Putin started this mess. Do you realize that? His army, his tanks, air force etc..."

That's a lie! And you should know it by now. Anyone with an honest approach to this mess knows US Neocons spent $5 Billion tax dollars overthrowing Ukraine's democratically elected government, precipitating a civil war that killed 14,000 Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens. CIA bio weapons labs on Russia's border? Threat of NATO missiles that no sane country would permit? You really need to wake up. Russia's enemies are our enemies.

The history of Ukraine started just last year. Nothing happened there before that.

Nothing matters to the flock of Guinea cackling about their love for Ukraine. It’s all about them and their egos. They don’t care about Ukraine or America.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Cause they are killing russians?

So you’re against a ceasefire because they are killing Russians? How many Ukrainians die for every dead Russian?

You do realize that your Ukrainian “human beings” are being killed at a rate much higher than the Russian “human beings”.

If one truly cared about “human beings” and the toll it’s taking on the human population of Ukraine they’d not be sitting in their lounge chair 10,000 miles away encouraging the continuation of war when a ceasefire was possible.

No dummy. Can you read and comprehend?

Pray for money laundering central/Ukraine.....

They put the banks of old in the Caymans and Bahama,s to shame...

Honk for Joey!!!
He gets lawyers fired...
And say a good word for Hunter the fossil fuels expert
And don't forget about the bio labs we need to keep on the down low....

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Originally Posted by renegade50

Pray for money laundering central/Ukraine.....

They put the banks of old in the Caymans and Bahama,s to shame...

Honk for Joey!!!
He gets lawyers fired...
And say a good word for Hunter the fossil fuels expert
And don't forget about the bio labs we need to keep on the down low....

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

So, you read the propaganda?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

And it's getting done with any American blood being spilled.

Yet.

And how stupid are we to spend another nickel on Europe's disagreements? Those people have been killing each other over the same real estate for well over 2000 years. And would be for another 2000 except that weapons technology might have advanced enough to completely clear the deck.

Think about it. No matter who is right or who is wrong. No matter who invaded who and whether it was justified what possibility is there that our money and next our blood is going to solve anything or make anything right?

It is simply not our problem and we have no ability to do anything but make things worse. As we always have done.

Mr. Burns?

Being involved in other countries is nothing new to the US. Nobody was complaining then, yet, they are today.

The War Machine will make sure the US$$$$$ is going somewhere. Yemen, Saudi’s, Iraq, Syria, Israel, Ukraine…etc.

BTW……..$16B/year went to Afghanistan….yet…no one complained.

“Afghanistan accounted for a third of the inflation-adjusted $287.6 billion in US military aid between the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and fiscal year 2020. The Central Asian country received the most military aid each year between 2008 and 2019. Israel overtook Afghanistan as the top recipient of US military aid in 2020.”

Link

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Being involved in other countries is nothing new to the US. Nobody was complaining then, yet, they are today.

The War Machine will make sure the US$$$$$ is going somewhere. Yemen, Saudi’s, Iraq, Syria, Israel, Ukraine…etc.

BTW……..$16B/year went to Afghanistan….yet…no one complained.

“Afghanistan accounted for a third of the inflation-adjusted $287.6 billion in US military aid between the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and fiscal year 2020. The Central Asian country received the most military aid each year between 2008 and 2019. Israel overtook Afghanistan as the top recipient of US military aid in 2020.”

Link

The money is secondary.

This conflict is about not allowing the crazies in the Biden administration to export drag queen story hour into libraries across the globe.

The U.S.A. and Western Europe is deadern 4 O'clock. The rest of the world wants it to be contained in the U.S.A. and Western Europe.

They're working to stop that homosexual schitt in Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Being involved in other countries is nothing new to the US. Nobody was complaining then, yet, they are today.

The War Machine will make sure the US$$$$$ is going somewhere. Yemen, Saudi’s, Iraq, Syria, Israel, Ukraine…etc.

BTW……..$16B/year went to Afghanistan….yet…no one complained.

“Afghanistan accounted for a third of the inflation-adjusted $287.6 billion in US military aid between the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and fiscal year 2020. The Central Asian country received the most military aid each year between 2008 and 2019. Israel overtook Afghanistan as the top recipient of US military aid in 2020.”

Link

The money is secondary.

This conflict is about not allowing the crazies in the Biden administration to export drag queen story hour into libraries across the globe.

The U.S.A. and Western Europe is deadern 4 O'clock. The rest of the world wants it to be contained in the U.S.A. and Western Europe.

They're working to stop that homosexual schitt in Ukraine.

Then we shouldn’t be worried…it’s just money.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by renegade50

Pray for money laundering central/Ukraine.....

They put the banks of old in the Caymans and Bahama,s to shame...

Honk for Joey!!!
He gets lawyers fired...
And say a good word for Hunter the fossil fuels expert
And don't forget about the bio labs we need to keep on the down low....

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

So, you read the propaganda?

You read and believe yours.
I will read and believe mine.

^^^
You like apples.
How do you like them above???

Originally Posted by renegade50

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by renegade50

Pray for money laundering central/Ukraine.....

They put the banks of old in the Caymans and Bahama,s to shame...

Honk for Joey!!!
He gets lawyers fired...
And say a good word for Hunter the fossil fuels expert
And don't forget about the bio labs we need to keep on the down low....

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

So, you read the propaganda?

You read and believe yours.
I will read and believe mine.

^^^
You like apples.
How do you like them above???

How do you like them apples?

There is a bit of confusion but it appears Poland is ready to go all in if Ukraine can not defend it's independance.

I don't know if the translation is accurate or how much the Polish ammb to France has to say about Polish policy.

Poland says it's might enter the conflict

As has been said many times the Poles don't believe the Orcs just want Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

And it's getting done with any American blood being spilled.

Yet.

And how stupid are we to spend another nickel on Europe's disagreements? Those people have been killing each other over the same real estate for well over 2000 years. And would be for another 2000 except that weapons technology might have advanced enough to completely clear the deck.

Think about it. No matter who is right or who is wrong. No matter who invaded who and whether it was justified what possibility is there that our money and next our blood is going to solve anything or make anything right?

It is simply not our problem and we have no ability to do anything but make things worse. As we always have done.

Mr. Burns?

Asked and answered many times.

Breaking the Orcs is great for long term stability.

Originally Posted by renegade50

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by renegade50

Pray for money laundering central/Ukraine.....

They put the banks of old in the Caymans and Bahama,s to shame...

Honk for Joey!!!
He gets lawyers fired...
And say a good word for Hunter the fossil fuels expert
And don't forget about the bio labs we need to keep on the down low....

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

So, you read the propaganda?

You read and believe yours.
I will read and believe mine.

^^^
You like apples.
How do you like them above???

In the Trailer Park Boys Mr. Lahey voice…..”sscchitt apples don’t fall far from the sscchitt tree Ricky”……..

I need not say anything else.
Summed it rather nicely in my 1st post.
Obviously.....

🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️🤣🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️

Hmmm…seems like someone on this board told you the Poles would be going in. They are going to claim their old lands in western Ukraine. Russia will get everything east of the Dnieper it wants and there might be a small Ukrainian rump state around Kiev.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

There is a bit of confusion but it appears Poland is ready to go all in if Ukraine can not defend it's independance.

I don't know if the translation is accurate or how much the Polish ammb to France has to say about Polish policy.

Poland says it's might enter the conflict

As has been said many times the Poles don't believe the Orcs just want Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

And it's getting done with any American blood being spilled.

Yet.

And how stupid are we to spend another nickel on Europe's disagreements? Those people have been killing each other over the same real estate for well over 2000 years. And would be for another 2000 except that weapons technology might have advanced enough to completely clear the deck.

Think about it. No matter who is right or who is wrong. No matter who invaded who and whether it was justified what possibility is there that our money and next our blood is going to solve anything or make anything right?

It is simply not our problem and we have no ability to do anything but make things worse. As we always have done.

Mr. Burns?

Asked and answered many times.

Breaking the Orcs is great for long term stability.

I think we were going downhill a long time before Putin entered Ukraine.

Covid-19, lockdowns, antifa riots, BLM riots, open border, fentanyl, Covid-19 jabs illegally forced, illegal mask requirements, schools shut down a year, 100,000 businesses destroyed, gas prices doubled, food prices inflated,.....

You have a funny idea of stability.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Hmmm…seems like someone on this board told you the Poles would be going in. They are going to claim their or lands in western Ukraine. Russia will get everything east of the Dnieper it wants and there might be a small Ukrainian rump state around Kiev.

So if Ukraine loses the land “they” stole from the Poles during the post WWII partitioning I wonder if our resident NATO loving, border supporting members here side with Ukraine AGAINST NATO or do they side with Poland, a NATO member AGAINST Ukraine?

This whole Eastern European border stuff would be sooo much easier if we could just start from February 2022 since that’s the date that the retards became aware of Ukraine in the first place. 😂

Interesting development. Polish land grab for land that once was theirs.

And of course like Poland in 1939, Ukraine after relying on security guarantees from the west, will find itself invaded from both the east and the west

You guys need to read a book about what Independance actually means.

Poland is also tranfering MiG-29s to Ukraine so there is no chance they intend to fight Ukraine.

Independance?
Would that include funding your own defense?

Yeah, independence definitely means having foreign armies fighting it out on your soil.

Independence?

I’m all for Ukrainian independence in every way imaginable!….but they have to quit demanding money, weapons and lives from the rest of the world in exchange for THEIR “independence”. Ukraine is the know-it-all 30 year old spoiled brat that doesn’t work and lives in the basement for free but tells the successful grown ups how to do everything. 😂

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Yeah, independence definitely means having foreign armies fighting it out on your soil.

Imagine your surprise when you do a bit of study on the USA's fight for Independence.

You might even hate the USA a bit less.

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Originally Posted by WTM45

Independance?
Would that include funding your own defense?

Ask France back about 1776 or so.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

You guys need to read a book about what Independance actually means.

Poland is also tranfering MiG-29s to Ukraine so there is no chance they intend to fight Ukraine.

You mean like the folks in donbass voted for in 2014? Oh, wait, that was more than a year ago. It must have never happened.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Yeah, independence definitely means having foreign armies fighting it out on your soil.

Imagine your surprise when you do a bit of study on the USA's fight for Independence.

You might even hate the USA a bit less.

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Originally Posted by WTM45

Independance?
Would that include funding your own defense?

Ask France back about 1776 or so.

And please, share with the class, how the US was able to separate from that indebtedness.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Yeah, independence definitely means having foreign armies fighting it out on your soil.

Imagine your surprise when you do a bit of study on the USA's fight for Independence.

You might even hate the USA a bit less.

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Originally Posted by WTM45

Independance?
Would that include funding your own defense?

Ask France back about 1776 or so.

Exactly! Lime when the American colonists demanded money from everyone else to fund their war.

Honest question: is someone truly independent if they rely on someone else to provide for their needs?

Which one of you Ukraine supporting fuggers whistled at this poor misguided creature?

I'm guessin' Burns did.

https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1637617452141146113

To some "independence" means that THEY ARENT MY PROBLEM.

Tell us how the indebtedness incurred in America by France worked out for them.

Burns be talking' 'bout,..."Hey good lookin!,...whoooooo-EEEEEEeeeeeeee"

It turns towards Burns,...smiles,...and its sticker starts peckin' out.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Tell us how the indebtedness incurred in America by France worked out for them.

Your sentence structure is a bit muddy but do you mean we might get a change of administration out of this deal?

Don't threaten me with a good time.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Ask France back about 1776 or so.

Do you realize France was at war with the British at the same time. They were helping themselves when De Grasse chased of the British fleet and the French made the difference at Yorktown. What they did wasn't charity for us. It was to cripple an enemy they were already at war with. We have no reason to be at war with Russia

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Ask France back about 1776 or so.

Do you realize France was at war with the British at the same time. They were helping themselves when De Grasse chased of the British fleet and the French made the difference at Yorktown. What they did wasn't charity for us. It was to cripple an enemy they were already at war with. We have no reason to be at war with Russia

Russia is our sworn enemy according to them.

I'll take them at their word and they just splashed a USAF aircraft in the Black Sea.

Do your own search if you doubt this and post cites.

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

Operating a Reaper in International Air Space near a conflict area is exactly our business.

Guess what, we are still doing it as we should.

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

What was that US Drone doing?

The French were protecting their territorial claims as much as anything else. They didn’t want the territory that they owned surrounded by their enemy, the British.

Their help was undeniable but it wasn’t based on their altruistic ways it was calculated for their benefit.

Having allies is not the same thing at all as relying solely on the charity of others in your own self defense…it is intellectually dishonest and a sure indication that every other possible weak justification has run its inevitable course because there is NO justifiable reason for the massive amount of money that we’ve given to them in a SINGLE (1) YEAR! Hundreds of billions of dollars from us alone while our banks collapse and a Banana Republic emerges from the ashes.

Comparing the Colonists fight for independence in 1776 to what is happening in Ukraine is laughable. It would be a swing and a miss but it’s not even in the same ballpark…..HELL, it ain’t even the same sport!

Let Ukraine survive the next couple years without the complete furnishment of arms and ammunition from the “French”…..let Ukraine survive wholly on their own through grit and determination like our colonists did before the “French” give 1 more Franc….if they’re as dedicated and determined as my ancestors and Founding Fathers were then they should be fine and then the “French” can resume throwing their shekels to the Azovs. 😉

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

Operating a Reaper in International Air Space near a conflict area is exactly our business.

Guess what, we are still doing it as we should.

Keep it up. Keep arming a sheithole little dirtbag of a country and do surveillance work for them and direct strikes on a huge nuclear armed country with whom we've been at peace with for over 30 years. Spend money we don't have and create enemies we did not have.

The problem is that when you find what you and the O'Biden NWO team are wanting so bad the rest of us get to enjoy it too.

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down. Shouldn't be too hard, you look like you would get winded pretty quick.

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

What was that US Drone doing?

Gathering info and targeting data on the Crimea of Russian troop locations, strength, etc…..duh?

….or it was a new fundraising idea between us and Ukraine where the MQ9 Reaper will fly a banner behind it asking someone to marry them or happy birthday….stuff that the Reaper is known for being good at doing.

I think this one was “Give Up Russia, We Have You Surrounded”……it sounds much better and more menacing in Russian. 😂😉

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

The French were protecting their territorial claims as much as anything else. They didn’t want the territory that they owned surrounded by their enemy, the British.

Their help was undeniable but it wasn’t based on their altruistic ways it was calculated for their benefit.

Having allies is not the same thing at all as relying solely on the charity of others in your own self defense…it is intellectually dishonest and a sure indication that every other possible weak justification has run its inevitable course and there is NO justifiable reason for the massive amount of money that we’ve given to them in a SINGLE (1) YEAR! Hundreds of billions of dollars from us alone while our banks collapse and a Banana Republic emerges from the ashes.

Comparing the Colonists fight for independence in 1776 to what is happening in Ukraine is laughable. It would be a swing and a miss but it’s not even in the same ballpark…..HELL, it ain’t even the same sport!

Let Ukraine survive the next couple years without the complete furnishment of arms and ammunition from the “French”…..let Ukraine survive wholly on their own through grit and determination like our colonists did before the “French” give 1 more Franc….if they’re as dedicated and determined as my ancestors and Founding Fathers were then they should be fine and then the “French” can resume throwing their shekels to the Azovs. 😉

Right now, the Ukes are fighting a much bigger army than the US colonials fought. It’s just the Russians are dumber than a box of rocks and they know they shouldn’t be there, which hurts their resolve.

And I’m not taking anything away from the US patriots either. They were considered 3 world by todays terms, the British Army was considered the finest in the world. The british just underestimated their resolve.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Cause they are killing russians?

So you’re against a ceasefire because they are killing Russians? How many Ukrainians die for every dead Russian?

You do realize that your Ukrainian “human beings” are being killed at a rate much higher than the Russian “human beings”.

If one truly cared about “human beings” and the toll it’s taking on the human population of Ukraine they’d not be sitting in their lounge chair 10,000 miles away encouraging the continuation of war when a ceasefire was possible.

Sources I find credible have the exchange rate at 1 Ukraine for 7 Orcs in the Bakhmut fight.

That's why Ukraine has stayed in Bakhmut. If the Orcs were killing more in the attack they would have taken Bakhmut last year.

Attackers always lose more troops than defenders when an attack succeeds.

When an attack fails the attacker loses many more and the Orcs have been throwing human wave attacks at Bakhmut for months.

The Orc attacks in other areas have seen even higher loses when they try and attack across open field sown with mines and preranged for artillery.

The Russians are proud of the willingness to suffer huge losses.

You find George Soros and Zelensky and Bidet credible

.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

What was that US Drone doing?

Gathering info and targeting data on the Crimea of Russian troop locations, strength, etc…..duh?

….or it was a new fundraising idea between us and Ukraine where the MQ9 Reaper will fly a banner behind it asking someone to marry them or happy birthday….stuff that the Reaper is known for being good at doing.

I think this one was “Give Up Russia, We Have You Surrounded”……it sounds much better and more menacing in Russian. 😂😉

Glad you were on that intelligence briefing..

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

What was that US Drone doing?

What ever the fuuuck the USA wants it to do in International Air Space.

International Air Space.

I am America First and we don't let Orcs tell us where to fly in International Air Space.

Putin Pufters think we should let the Orcs run the show because they believe in Russia First.

Luckily, I like Chinese food better than Russian.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

Operating a Reaper in International Air Space near a conflict area is exactly our business.

Guess what, we are still doing it as we should.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Keep it up. Keep arming a sheithole little dirtbag of a country and do surveillance work for them and direct strikes on a huge nuclear armed country with whom we've been at peace with for over 30 years. Spend money we don't have and create enemies we did not have.

The problem is that when you find what you and the O'Biden NWO team are wanting so bad the rest of us get to enjoy it too.

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down. Shouldn't be too hard, you look like you would get winded pretty quick.

Of course you will side with the Orcs. You gave them money and prayers. Anti American Putin Pufter to the bone.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

You find George Soros and Zelensky and Bidet credible

.

Nobody finds you credible. Probably because you're a deranged lunatic

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Luckily, I like Chinese food better than Russian.

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them. I've heard that canned perch and beet soup are good weight loss diets and excellent for alcoholic diabetics.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jaguartx

You find George Soros and Zelensky and Bidet credible

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Nobody finds you credible. Probably because you're a deranged lunatic

LOL…..but he does have a photo with Lara Logan and she agrees with everything he says.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Luckily, I like Chinese food better than Russian.

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them. I've heard that canned perch and beet soup are good weight loss diets and excellent for alcoholic diabetics.

Could you be anymore of an Anti American Putin Pufter?

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

What was that US Drone doing?

What ever the fuuuck the USA wants it to do in International Air Space.

International Air Space.

I am America First and we don't let Orcs tell us where to fly in International Air Space.

Putin Pufters think we should let the Orcs run the show because they believe in Russia First.

We believe we'd like to wake up tomorrow, dumbasses.

I don't think we care for the crew you like to suck up to.

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Looks to me like Putin took Crimea and it's airspace.

Of course, maybe you think we should give North America back to the Native American race?

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

What was that US Drone doing?

Setting up a Gulf of tonkin incident. You and burns should be excited about the prospect.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Looks to me like Putin took Crimea and it's airspace.

Of course, maybe you think we should give North America back to the Native American race?

One aspect of the frustration those that know feel when dealing with the uneducated is the silly analogies.

International Air Space is International, hence the name.

It never belonged to Ukraine for the Orcs to steal.

You're so far beind the power curve in this discussion it is truly sad.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Luckily, I like Chinese food better than Russian.

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them. I've heard that canned perch and beet soup are good weight loss diets and excellent for alcoholic diabetics.

Could you be anymore of an Anti American Putin Pufter?

You reckon? Or maybe pro American and antiwar.

I understand you don't like criticism, nobody does.

Therefore it's understandable you don't like my attitude. It is from your pictures and your postings that I've pictured you as an unbalanced, overweight, alcoholic, diabetic, blowhard. If I were you I wouldn't like me either.

The war at this point is a stalemate. Russia can't advance and Ukraine can't expel them.

Originally Posted by jwp475

The war at this point is a stalemate. Russia can't advance and Ukraine can't expel them.

It'll get interesting after the mud dries up and the Ukes have western tanks and APCs.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Luckily, I like Chinese food better than Russian.

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them. I've heard that canned perch and beet soup are good weight loss diets and excellent for alcoholic diabetics.

Could you be anymore of an Anti American Putin Pufter?

You reckon? Or maybe pro American and antiwar.

I understand you don't like criticism, nobody does.

Therefore it's understandable you don't like my attitude. It is from your pictures and your postings that I've pictured you as an unbalanced, overweight, alcoholic, diabetic, blowhard. If I were you I wouldn't like me either.

You dream of catching Americans to send them to Russian prison because they don't agree with your fuucked up Puting Pufter Russia First views.

You and the rest of the Anti American Putin Pufters are the worst of the Campfire.

The Marxist are in Washington not Russia..

Marxist Sympathizer..

Originally Posted by akrange

The Marxist are in Washington not Russia..

Marxist Sympathizer..

BOOM

Originally Posted by jwp475

The war at this point is a stalemate. Russia can't advance and Ukraine can't expel them.

BS

Gin Burnsie, could you be any more of a Pro Dead American Zelensky corksucker?

Originally Posted by akrange

The Marxist are in Washington not Russia..

Marxist Sympathizer..

The prison of the small minded is binary thinking.

Marxists can be in two or more places.

That's why you're easy to control.

Why is it MY problem?

I’m most definitely not a Putin puffer or whatever thefuck but I am a realist that never understood the idea that Ukraine would win in any measurable way. The only question was how many would die before they realized it. It’s a foregone conclusion that Ukraine will soon be redrawing their maps despite the tremendous loss of life.

I was curious after reading the assertion that in Bakhmut the losses are 7-1 Russian to Ukrainian but I can’t find anything that shows that. I’ve seen a lot more about the exact opposite and it is Ukraine suffering 7-1 losses.

I just don’t think that Ukraine has a shot at victory and the only reason it’s gone on this long is because of the artificial injection of unsustainable support.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by jwp475

The war at this point is a stalemate. Russia can't advance and Ukraine can't expel them.

BS

You sure about that? You show where it's different than what I posted 📫

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

I’m most definitely not a Putin puffer or whatever thefuck but I am a realist that never understood the idea that Ukraine would win in any measurable way. The only question was how many would die before they realized it. It’s a foregone conclusion that Ukraine will soon be redrawing their maps despite the tremendous loss of life.

I was curious after reading the assertion that in Bakhmut the losses are 7-1 Russian to Ukrainian but I can’t find anything that shows that. I’ve seen a lot more about the exact opposite and it is Ukraine suffering 7-1 losses.

I just don’t think that Ukraine has a shot at victory and the only reason it’s gone on this long is because of the artificial injection of unsustainable support.

If you boil it down to the elements, Ukranians are dying in a mess like this because they're too damn dumb not to die in a mess like this.

That's why the globalists picked them for a mess like this.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ltppowell

Luckily, I like Chinese food better than Russian.

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them. I've heard that canned perch and beet soup are good weight loss diets and excellent for alcoholic diabetics.

Could you be anymore of an Anti American Putin Pufter?

You reckon? Or maybe pro American and antiwar.

I understand you don't like criticism, nobody does.

Therefore it's understandable you don't like my attitude. It is from your pictures and your postings that I've pictured you as an unbalanced, overweight, alcoholic, diabetic, blowhard. If I were you I wouldn't like me either.

You dream of catching Americans to send them to Russian prison because they don't agree with your fuucked up Puting Pufter Russia First views.

You and the rest of the Anti American Putin Pufters are the worst of the Campfire.

Getting a bit testy are we?

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

What was that US Drone doing?

What ever the fuuuck the USA wants it to do in International Air Space.

International Air Space.

I am America First and we don't let Orcs tell us where to fly in International Air Space.

Putin Pufters think we should let the Orcs run the show because they believe in Russia First.

We believe we'd like to wake up tomorrow, dumbasses.

I don't think we care for the crew you like to suck up to.

Hey Jag….can you post some photos of the Russian purges in their own country or maybe the Russians starving out the Ukes?

Better yet, Russia bombing cities in Ukraine. Hopefully you can find something after the 2014 invasion of Ukraine.

And by the way, Poland is getting ready to die in a mess like this.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

I’m most definitely not a Putin puffer or whatever thefuck but I am a realist that never understood the idea that Ukraine would win in any measurable way. The only question was how many would die before they realized it. It’s a foregone conclusion that Ukraine will soon be redrawing their maps despite the tremendous loss of life.

I was curious after reading the assertion that in Bakhmut the losses are 7-1 Russian to Ukrainian but I can’t find anything that shows that. I’ve seen a lot more about the exact opposite and it is Ukraine suffering 7-1 losses.

I just don’t think that Ukraine has a shot at victory and the only reason it’s gone on this long is because of the artificial injection of unsustainable support.

If you don't understand that a small city or any defensive line can't be held if the defenders are being attrited at 7-1 then I can't really explain anything that will get through your bias.

A successful attack will attrit the attackers at 3-1 in a best case scenario. The seige of Bakhumt is not successful nor are any Orc offensive on the entire Forward Line of Contact.

If you believe the impossible to confirm your bias no logic or facts can change that bias.

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by jwp475

The war at this point is a stalemate. Russia can't advance and Ukraine can't expel them.

BS

You sure about that? You show where it's different than what I posted 📫

Yeah.

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by jwp475

The war at this point is a stalemate. Russia can't advance and Ukraine can't expel them.

BS

You sure about that? You show where it's different than what I posted 📫

Are you not one of those dumbasses who believed CNN and this POS?

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Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by jwp475

The war at this point is a stalemate. Russia can't advance and Ukraine can't expel them.

BS

You sure about that? You show where it's different than what I posted 📫

Yeah.

Then why isn't Russia advancing? It is because c they are bogged down

Russia may very well eventually win a war of attrition eventually, but they aren't advancing at presently

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Then we shouldn’t be worried…it’s just money.

That is exactly why we should be concerned. This is designed to break us. You do understand there are no good guys in this fight and the bankers will foreclose on the wreckage?

Give us a good reason for the USA to have spent what is now TRILLIONS of $$$dollars in the last 106 years on European and Mid-East and Asian wars.

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Originally Posted by rainshot

That USAF aircraft had no business being where it was doing what it was doing.

What was that US Drone doing?

What ever the fuuuck the USA wants it to do in International Air Space.

International Air Space.

I am America First and we don't let Orcs tell us where to fly in International Air Space.

Putin Pufters think we should let the Orcs run the show because they believe in Russia First.

We believe we'd like to wake up tomorrow, dumbasses.

I don't think we care for the crew you like to suck up to.

Hey Jag….can you post some photos of the Russian purges in their own country or maybe the Russians starving out the Ukes?

Better yet, Russia bombing cities in Ukraine. Hopefully you can find something after the 2014 invasion of Ukraine.

I can probably find some of the Soviet communists doing that, not after the USSR went down and Putin took over.

I can also find some of the Neonazis in the US killing Americans with open borders, Covid-19 toxic jabs, Chynese Fentanyl, MS 13 Killers, ....

People with pointed heads think things never change. You want the US and NATO to take out Japan too?

Your point

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

You dream of catching Americans to send them to Russian prison because they don't agree with your fuucked up Puting Pufter Russia First views.

You and the rest of the Anti American Putin Pufters are the worst of the Campfire.

Getting a bit testy are we?

You are forever branded as a Anti American Russia First Putin Pufter who wants to chase down Americans and put them in Russian prisons because you don't like what they say.

If you think this is the last time I will shove this in your Putin Pufter face here on the Campfire you are sadly mistaken.

Enjoy the Ride.

Originally Posted by Hating the USA and Loving Russia

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

If you don't understand that a small city or any defensive line can't be held if the defenders are being attrited at 7-1 then I can't really explain anything that will get through your bias.

A successful attack will attrit the attackers at 3-1 in a best case scenario. The seige of Bakhumt is not successful nor are any Orc offensive on the entire Forward Line of Contact.

If you believe the impossible to confirm your bias no logic or facts can change that bias.

blah blah blah blah

Russia is winning, 5-10 Uke soldiers dead for every 1 Russian soldier dead. The Russian Grind

"Russian Grind ©"

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Russia is winning, 5-10 Uke soldiers dead for every 1 Russian soldier dead. The Russian Grind

Litterally impossible for defenders to be atritted at that level and not have the Foward Line of Contact collapse.

It's sad a few here have such limited knowledge yet spout such bullschiet.

Always wrong but never in doubt.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by MarkWV

Then we shouldn’t be worried…it’s just money.

That is exactly why we should be concerned. This is designed to break us. You do understand there are no good guys in this fight and the bankers will foreclose on the wreckage?

Give us a good reason for the USA to have spent what is now TRILLIONS of $$$dollars in the last 106 years on European and Mid-East and Asian wars.

Wait…..Bristoe said Faaggg0ts was the the problem. Money is second.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Russia is winning, 5-10 Uke soldiers dead for every 1 Russian soldier dead. The Russian Grind

Litterally impossible for defenders to be atritted at that level and not have the Foward Line of Contact collapse.

It's sad a few here have such limited knowledge yet spout such bullschiet.

Always wrong but never in doubt.

Then why aren't they advancing

Originally Posted by jwp475

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Russia is winning, 5-10 Uke soldiers dead for every 1 Russian soldier dead. The Russian Grind

Litterally impossible for defenders to be atritted at that level and not have the Foward Line of Contact collapse.

It's sad a few here have such limited knowledge yet spout such bullschiet.

Always wrong but never in doubt.

Then why aren't they advancing

The Orks are getting attrited at 7-1.

It's much easier to defend than attack. That's pretty basic stuff.

I am assuming your just read the post wrong.

The ratio of soldier losses Russia/Ukraine 1:5≈1:10

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

The ratio of soldier losses Russia/Ukraine 1:5≈1:10

Litterally impossible.

But don't let facts harsh your Putin Pufter Buzz.

I trust the data I review, therefore facts.

Ima data wizard

"A new Guardian analysis of Institute for the Study of War data shows that, after once having seized as much as 51,000 sq miles (132,000 sq km) of Ukrainian land, Russia has since lost a fifth of this. It now controls 40,000 sq miles of Ukrainian land, entirely in the south and east."

If you aren't advancing, then you are bogged down

That's the real-estate Russia wants.

Other parts had infrastructure softened just because.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

You dream of catching Americans to send them to Russian prison because they don't agree with your fuucked up Puting Pufter Russia First views.

You and the rest of the Anti American Putin Pufters are the worst of the Campfire.

Getting a bit testy are we?

You are forever branded as a Anti American Russia First Putin Pufter who wants to chase down Americans and put them in Russian prisons because you don't like what they say.

If you think this is the last time I will shove this in your Putin Pufter face here on the Campfire you are sadly mistaken.

Enjoy the Ride.

What is a Putin Pufter??

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

That's the real-estate Russia wants.

Other parts had infrastructure softened just because.

Then they better stop being pushed back and they need to shove Ukraine farther back to show dominance inorder to hold that ground

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Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I trust the data I review, therefore facts.

Ima data wizard

There in lies the problem.

You believe impossible things because it feeds your bias.

It's objectively impossible for a defending army to suffer 5-1 attrition and not collapse. If every attacker kill 5 defenders during the attack then Bakhmut fell many many months ago.

It objectively possible for an attacking army using human wave tactics to be attrited at 7-1 and keep attacking if huge loses are acceptable to the Command Structure. Just keep feeding meat into the grinder.

The Orcs pride themselves on taking huge loses.

Anyone killing at a rate of 5 to 1 will be able to advance and no one is advancing

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Binary thinking is the prison of the weak minded.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Binary thinking is the prison of the weak minded.

Mr Burns, you by the opinions you post, support Ukraine. Some others here presumably do as well.

Therefore, you agree with Joe Biden.

Originally Posted by jwp475

Anyone killing at a rate of 5 to 1 will be able to advance and no one is advancing

If your enemy keeps attacking into strong points you let them fight the mud and die a high attrition rates.

Tactics.

When the mud dries and Western Armour starts to roll we will see how it happens.

Poland can't leave it alone.

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1637368151527522311

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Poland can't leave it alone.

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1637368151527522311

from Bristoe link:

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10,000 Poles are fighting Russia in Ukraine. 2,000 of them have already died. If your government enters this war directly, there will be a sea where your "location" is. Have you thought about it? This is not your war, but you are simply being used.
3:53 AM · Mar 19, 2023
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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by jwp475

Anyone killing at a rate of 5 to 1 will be able to advance and no one is advancing

If your enemy keeps attacking into strong points you let them fight the mud and die a high attrition rates.

Tactics.

When the mud dries and Western Armour starts to roll we will see how it happens.

The Germany were dug in with artillery and tougher tanks, yet when Patton broke through the Hedge Row he then took 40 miles a day. That's how you advance and win.

A stalemate eventually gets into negotiations to call it off

I sure hope a stalemate gets peace negotiations rolling. For the good of all.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I sure hope a stalemate gets peace negotiations rolling. For the good of all.

The justification the Orc and Putin Pufters use for the invasion is stronger today than back in Feb 2022 when they invaded.

What can be negotiated to stop the Orcs from just doing it again?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I sure hope a stalemate gets peace negotiations rolling. For the good of all.

The justification the Orc and Putin Pufters use for the invasion is stronger today than back in Feb 2022 when they invaded.

What can be negotiated to stop the Orcs from just doing it again?

So you want full blown war between NATO and Russia?

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I sure hope a stalemate gets peace negotiations rolling. For the good of all.

The justification the Orc and Putin Pufters use for the invasion is stronger today than back in Feb 2022 when they invaded.

What can be negotiated to stop the Orcs from just doing it again?

So you want full blown war between NATO and Russia?

The prison of binary (2 Choices only) thinking always afflicts those with a child like understanding of the World.

You only see 2 choices in every line of thought when there are infinite possibilities for those who can think.

That's why you are easy to control.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I sure hope a stalemate gets peace negotiations rolling. For the good of all.

The justification the Orc and Putin Pufters use for the invasion is stronger today than back in Feb 2022 when they invaded.

What can be negotiated to stop the Orcs from just doing it again?

If sanctions are as crippling as you’ve asserted then perhaps the lifting of those sanctions for a start? Unless the sanctions back-fired and were a miserable failure. 😂

At least we still have Nordstream….I mean Germany and Europe still have Nordstream. 😀

And the Ukrainians could halt killing the Russian orcs at a 7 to 1 rate….

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I sure hope a stalemate gets peace negotiations rolling. For the good of all.

The justification the Orc and Putin Pufters use for the invasion is stronger today than back in Feb 2022 when they invaded.

What can be negotiated to stop the Orcs from just doing it again?

If sanctions are as crippling as you’ve asserted then perhaps the lifting of those sanctions for a start? Unless the sanctions back-fired and were a miserable failure. 😂

At least we still have Nordstream….I mean Germany and Europe still have Nordstream. 😀

"Russia has likely lost more than 2,000 tanks in its war in Ukraine, more than half of its operational tank fleet, according to estimates released Wednesday from the International Institute for Strategic Studies".Feb 15, 2023

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

And the Ukrainians could halt killing the Russian orcs at a 7 to 1 rate….

Originally Posted by AcesDays

You asked what could be negotiated to stop the orcs and I replied that we could remove the sanctions placed on Russia.

Is that difficult for you?…..you hardly communicate in a coherent manner and we are all left to interrupt so don’t go getting uppity now.

If you’re to the point of the bottle where you are reduced to gifs then I’ll leave you to it….

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

You asked what could be negotiated to stop the orcs and I replied that we could remove the sanctions placed on Russia.

Is that difficult for you?…..you hardly communicate in a coherent manner and we are all left to interrupt so don’t go getting uppity now.

So the Orcs go home if we remove the sanctions?

That seems simple.

Are the Orcs offering such terms or are you having more fever dreams?

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Originally Posted by AcesNeights

If you’re to the point of the bottle where you are reduced to gifs then I’ll leave you to it….

LOL.

Skillfully dropping GIF hammers is not some thing for the impaired.

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Binary thinking is the prison of the weak minded.

You don't need to keep telling us, we know you're non-binary.

Burns is the poster child for percussive sublimation......

Latest numbers I've seen from unbiased sources, is Ukraine down 250k to Russias 150k

No matter how you slice it, it's carnage for both sides.

Originally Posted by hicountry

Latest numbers I've seen from unbiased sources, is Ukraine down 250k to Russias 150k

No matter how you slice it, it's carnage for both sides.

Either way, the Russians aren't winning this either. Not by a long shot. The front has not shifted more than a few miles for months.

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by hicountry

Latest numbers I've seen from unbiased sources, is Ukraine down 250k to Russias 150k

No matter how you slice it, it's carnage for both sides.

Either way, the Russians aren't winning this either. Not by a long shot. The front has not shifted more than a few miles for months.

Exactly 💯 the war has bogged done and neither side is advancing

The Russians aren’t even trying to advance right now. I imagine they are sitting back and waiting Kursk style for the most heavily publicized offensive in the history of warfare.

That’s the thing about wars of attrition. Nobody moves until somebody breaks and then it is a rout.

There is only one way this can and will end.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Russia is winning, 5-10 Uke soldiers dead for every 1 Russian soldier dead. The Russian Grind

"Russian Grind ©"

The fact that people here actually believe that, in an "offensive grind" that has had the Russians attempting to take a town of 70k people for months, the army attacking was inflicting 5 or 7 to 1 casualties on the defenders without taking the city is literally insane.

The Russians have gone with the human waves for over a hundred years. They're still doing it. The Uke losses may be horrific, but the attackers are losing 2-3x the defenders on a good day.

If the attackers were even getting 1:1 they would have taken the city months ago.

But, hey, keep linking to literal propaganda, then call people names if they don't believe it too.....

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by hicountry

Latest numbers I've seen from unbiased sources, is Ukraine down 250k to Russias 150k

No matter how you slice it, it's carnage for both sides.

Cite the sources?

The US is definitely losing. Millions of dollars in cash and even more in resources!!!

Originally Posted by Stan_Snyder

The US is definitely losing. Millions of dollars in cash and even more in resources!!!

Yep. And like I said, if the Russians were winning, they would have advanced by now, or at least before the winter set in. If they are waiting for a Spring Offensive, then I guess we'll see, but given their record of getting their asses handed to them, the front will move a bit, then stabilize. Only way they'll win is if the west pulls the plug on funding the Uks and even then the ruskis are so inept, it'll be a miracle if they win.

Originally Posted by Stan_Snyder

The US is definitely losing. Millions of dollars in cash and even more in resources!!!

Welcome fellow gun enthusiast.

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by Stan_Snyder

The US is definitely losing. Millions of dollars in cash and even more in resources!!!

Yep. And like I said, if the Russians were winning, they would have advanced by now, or at least before the winter set in. If they are waiting for a Spring Offensive, then I guess we'll see, but given their record of getting their asses handed to them, the front will move a bit, then stabilize. Only way they'll win is if the west pulls the plug on funding the Uks and even then the ruskis are so inept, it'll be a miracle if they win.

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Originally Posted by hicountry

Latest numbers I've seen from unbiased sources, is Ukraine down 250k to Russias 150k

No matter how you slice it, it's carnage for both sides.

And we are down over 75 Billion. The only ones winning are corrupt government officials - on all sides.

Where would anyone interested in facts alone find accurate information on what actually transpired on a given day? These casualty numbers sound awfully exaggerated. Putin seems to be patiently waiting for the grownups to take charge in Kiev. He doesn't want to destroy Ukraine unless he has to. He most certainly can and no one will stop him if pushed that far.

I believe Putin is winning simply because he has to and the civilized western world needs a defender, call it Christian if you must. There's some truth in that actually. US power and influence is collapsing so fast all the blustering and desperate moves, like blowing up pipelines, can't keep pace with the failing financial system that was our only big gun. But that's just a lot of fuzzy feelings and quasi logic on my part. I don't know anything for certain, except Russia is in the right.

The casualty numbers on both sides are pure horsehit. Given the size of their respective armed forces, if these numbers were real, there would hardly be anybody left to fight.

Originally Posted by Stan_Snyder

I don't know anything for certain, except Russia is in the right.

That is what I think also.

Originally Posted by Stan_Snyder

The US is definitely losing. Millions of dollars in cash and even more in resources!!!

$Billions and even more in credibility.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Stan_Snyder

I don't know anything for certain, except Russia is in the right.

That is what I think also.

Originally Posted by Stan_Snyder

The US is definitely losing. Millions of dollars in cash and even more in resources!!!

$Billions and even more in credibility.

^^^ Spot On!

MAGA!

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Russia is moving very slowly and methodically. But it's not a stalemate.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1637789897862815745

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Really? then why was the main thrust of their original invasion aimed at Kiev? How about the Ukraine, does that "belong" to them, too?

Depends (on what Putin decides).

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Here's hoping they succeed. The West has a habit of getting tired of war and going home. Russia has a habit of being persistent. Especially on their border.

We may yet get out of this without going to war with Russia if the West Europeans give out or get scared and quit.

Originally Posted by hicountry

Latest numbers I've seen from unbiased sources, is Ukraine down 250k to Russias 150k

No matter how you slice it, it's carnage for both sides.

I'm thinking 500,000 to 90,000 iirc from col McLoughlin

Originally Posted by TreeMutt

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Stan_Snyder

I don't know anything for certain, except Russia is in the right.

That is what I think also.

Originally Posted by Stan_Snyder

The US is definitely losing. Millions of dollars in cash and even more in resources!!!

$Billions and even more in credibility.

^^^ Spot On!

MAGA!

Like $130 Billion

Originally Posted by jorgeI

The casualty numbers on both sides are pure horsehit. Given the size of their respective armed forces, if these numbers were real, there would hardly be anybody left to fight.

Glad you said this. It was my thinking as well - but am not sure about the non-combatant numbers.

It's Russia's war to lose. Likely they will continue throwing bodies at the front until the Ukranian's either run out of ammo or get overrun.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Here's hoping they succeed. The West has a habit of getting tired of war and going home. Russia has a habit of being persistent. Especially on their border.

We may yet get out of this without going to war with Russia if the West Europeans give out or get scared and quit.

This isn't Russia's final push. It's their first push. Next stop will be Poland and the other breakaway countries.

How many here think the North was right to invade the South during the civil war? miles

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by hicountry

Latest numbers I've seen from unbiased sources, is Ukraine down 250k to Russias 150k

No matter how you slice it, it's carnage for both sides.

I'm thinking 500,000 to 90,000 iirc from col McLoughlin

He is full of crap. If he was correct then they would be able to advance and that is not happening

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Really? then why was the main thrust of their original invasion aimed at Kiev? How about the Ukraine, does that "belong" to them, too?

Because the Russian original goal was to force a quick settlement. The original plan was successful in that the Ukraine agreed to a settlement but we stepped in and stopped the settlement. The Russians didn’t have near enough troops committed for a protracted war and retreated and began mobilizing. If you’re looking for big land grabs by the Russians I believe you will be disappointed. The Russians are going to ever so slowly grind up the the Ukrainian army. Only when the Ukrainian army is totally destroyed will the Russians take large swaths of the Ukraine.

Originally Posted by jorgeI

The casualty numbers on both sides are pure horsehit. Given the size of their respective armed forces, if these numbers were real, there would hardly be anybody left to fight.

There would be hardly anybody left…might be why the Ukraine is taking old men and children off the street..

Its critical for Russia to hold Crimea, heard they were evacuating some from Crimea.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Yes, yes, that's why they dropped the VDV in and tried to take Kiev....

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Yes, yes, that's why they dropped the VDV in and tried to take Kiev....

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Simple thing is Putin thought he could pull off a 100 hour war...turns out, he couldn't.

Whatever side you favor, how do you think this ends? I think Russia patiently keeps up the pressure and destruction. Will the West NATO/USA finally get tired when their populations get restive or will they decisively step in and overtly make war on Russia with our men actually joining the battle?

Do any of you see a probability of nuclear war?

How do China and India figure in? Will China overtly arm Russia?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Whatever side you favor, how do you think this ends. I think Russia patiently keeps up the pressure and destruction. Will the West NATO/USA finally get tired when their populations get restive or will they decisively step in and overtly make war on Russia with our men actually joining the battle?

Do any of you see a probability of nuclear war?

How do China and India figure in? Will China overtly arm Russia?

Our Intel guys would love it if Chinese weapons start showing up...we would learn a lot without Americans being killed. Which is why you probably won't see that...ammunition, ok but not high end Chinese weapons.

Imho.

China wants Taiwan and the SCS....not Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russia is moving very slowly and methodically. But it's not a stalemate.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1637789897862815745

Remember that awesome thread early on in this where the pro russians were trying to say that russia was losing on purpose? Man in the window or something like that.

LOL

Originally Posted by OSU_Sig

Originally Posted by Hastings

Here's hoping they succeed. The West has a habit of getting tired of war and going home. Russia has a habit of being persistent. Especially on their border.

We may yet get out of this without going to war with Russia if the West Europeans give out or get scared and quit.

This isn't Russia's final push. It's their first push. Next stop will be Poland and the other breakaway countries.

lol. What's a break away country?

Are you living in 1952?

Tranny Zelenskiy is running out of cannon fodder. Time to send in American boys to die for corrupt billionaires

Originally Posted by ribka

Tranny Zelenskiy is running out of cannon fodder. Time to send in American boys to die for corrupt billionaires

Do you mean Russian oligarchs?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

China wants Taiwan and the SCS....not Ukraine.

I understand that but anything they can do to make the USA less of a threat and more financially unsound is to their benefit. I see Russia and China as natural allies here and India probably satisfied to see Europe and North America weakened.

India has been instrumental in keeping Russian oil flowing by refining it and shipping it out.

India and China can field a 200 million man army so they cannot be occupied by a foreign army and both could stand nuclear war better than us. So could Russia.

We certainly have a way of creating alliances. Just not to our benefit.

I don't favor either side as it's not the USA fight, but Biden wants it to be. I think that Russia wants what was agreed to in the Minsk2 accord. Since that didn't happen because the Ukraine puppet government installed by the USA did not follow through with Minsk2 Russia said fugg it, will not recognize Minks2 and the "special military operation" commenced.

So here we are with Biden leading the charge. Biden suckered the EU into this along for the ride, which it looks like EU is regretting this.

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It’s pretty apparent what happened.

Russia tried a lightning strike with very limited forces in unsupported flying columns to take over Ukraine. Those failed mainly because of US intelligence support. They were all ambushed and killed. There was even a statement by someone in the Ukrainian government that I’ve seen that admitted to as much.

Step two was a stronger approach designed to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table but still far less than all out war. That approach culminated in the peace plan put together in Istanbul agreed to by all last March but quickly squashed by a Boris Johnson trip to Kiev.

When that failed Russia mobilized reserves and here we are. It’s now a grinding war that Ukraine cannot win.

A Crack developes in Zelenzgays unbeatable World Class War Machine

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

China wants Taiwan and the SCS....not Ukraine.

I understand that but anything they can do to make the USA less of a threat and more financially unsound is to their benefit. I see Russia and China as natural allies here and India probably satisfied to see Europe and North America weakened.

India has been instrumental in keeping Russian oil flowing by refining it and shipping it out.

India and China can field a 200 million man army so they cannot be occupied by a foreign army and both could stand nuclear war better than us. So could Russia.

We certainly have a way of creating alliances. Just not to our benefit.

Xi wants the CCP and Nazi World Order and WEF and Taiwan illegal Bioweapons Labs and their pathogens dead.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

China wants Taiwan and the SCS....not Ukraine.

I understand that but anything they can do to make the USA less of a threat and more financially unsound is to their benefit. I see Russia and China as natural allies here and India probably satisfied to see Europe and North America weakened.

India has been instrumental in keeping Russian oil flowing by refining it and shipping it out.

India and China can field a 200 million man army so they cannot be occupied by a foreign army and both could stand nuclear war better than us. So could Russia.

We certainly have a way of creating alliances. Just not to our benefit.

Xi wants the CCP and Nazi World Order and WEF and Taiwan illegal Bioweapons Labs and their pathogens dead.

Ok. Wanna chat about gold? If not, piss off.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Xi wants the CCP and Nazi World Order and WEF and Taiwan illegal Bioweapons Labs and their pathogens dead.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Whatever side you favor, how do you think this ends? I think Russia patiently keeps up the pressure and destruction. Will the West NATO/USA finally get tired when their populations get restive or will they decisively step in and overtly make war on Russia with our men actually joining the battle?

Do any of you see a probability of nuclear war?

How do China and India figure in? Will China overtly arm Russia?

Ukes are gonna get long range drones into production and hit Russia the way Russia has hit them.

Longer range precision rockets will also change the dynamic a lot.

Then there's modern tanks and APCs that they're being trained on.

It's gonna be interesting. Russia's never had throwing ridiculous amounts of bodies at the enemy fail, but the long range precision strike ability make massing troops and equipment rather difficult.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Hastings

Whatever side you favor, how do you think this ends? I think Russia patiently keeps up the pressure and destruction. Will the West NATO/USA finally get tired when their populations get restive or will they decisively step in and overtly make war on Russia with our men actually joining the battle?

Do any of you see a probability of nuclear war?

How do China and India figure in? Will China overtly arm Russia?

Ukes are gonna get long range drones into production and hit Russia the way Russia has hit them.

Longer range precision rockets will also change the dynamic a lot.

Then there's modern tanks and APCs that they're being trained on.

It's gonna be interesting. Russia's never had throwing ridiculous amounts of bodies at the enemy fail, but the long range precision strike ability make massing trips and equipment rather difficult.

It will be interesting to see if they can strike Russia. That will change the dynamic with Ru citizens who have been told bs.

We shall see...

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Xi wants the CCP and Nazi World Order and WEF and Taiwan illegal Bioweapons Labs and their pathogens dead.

Considering the origin of COVID, do you realize how this sounds to a reasonable, rational person?

Originally Posted by AKwolverine

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Xi wants the CCP and Nazi World Order and WEF and Taiwan illegal Bioweapons Labs and their pathogens dead.

Again? He hasn't stopped in years...

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Ok. Wanna chat about gold? If not, piss off.

Huh?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Ok. Wanna chat about gold? If not, piss off.

Huh?

Jag claims 22 trillion in gold was moved from the US to Britain.

His problem is, there isn't 22 trillion in gold in any country, or earth.

I did the math...go look it up.

The US army is ready to invade Russia and kick some roomy butt. Out best trained in the world

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Hastings

Whatever side you favor, how do you think this ends? I think Russia patiently keeps up the pressure and destruction. Will the West NATO/USA finally get tired when their populations get restive or will they decisively step in and overtly make war on Russia with our men actually joining the battle?

Do any of you see a probability of nuclear war?

How do China and India figure in? Will China overtly arm Russia?

Ukes are gonna get long range drones into production and hit Russia the way Russia has hit them.

Longer range precision rockets will also change the dynamic a lot.

Then there's modern tanks and APCs that they're being trained on.

It's gonna be interesting. Russia's never had throwing ridiculous amounts of bodies at the enemy fail, but the long range precision strike ability make massing trips and equipment rather difficult.

It will be interesting to see if they can strike Russia. That will change the dynamic with Ru citizens who have been told bs.

We shall see...

Originally Posted by ribka

The US army is ready to invade Russia and kick some roomy butt. Out best trained in the world

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Hastings

Whatever side you favor, how do you think this ends? I think Russia patiently keeps up the pressure and destruction. Will the West NATO/USA finally get tired when their populations get restive or will they decisively step in and overtly make war on Russia with our men actually joining the battle?

Do any of you see a probability of nuclear war?

How do China and India figure in? Will China overtly arm Russia?

Ukes are gonna get long range drones into production and hit Russia the way Russia has hit them.

Longer range precision rockets will also change the dynamic a lot.

Then there's modern tanks and APCs that they're being trained on.

It's gonna be interesting. Russia's never had throwing ridiculous amounts of bodies at the enemy fail, but the long range precision strike ability make massing trips and equipment rather difficult.

It will be interesting to see if they can strike Russia. That will change the dynamic with Ru citizens who have been told bs.

We shall see...

You realize we aren't at war?

we should send in our soldiers to save the Ukrainian billionaires who fled with their families.

They've been grifting the US for years

Ukrainian Oligarchs Flee Amid Fears of Russian Attack – Reports
Feb. 14, 2022

Kyiv's Boryspil International Airport. Sergei Supinsky / AFP
Ukrainian oligarchs and wealthy businessmen are fleeing the country as tensions with Russia reach a boiling point and Western countries order their citizens to leave, the Ukrainskaya Pravda news website reported Monday.

At least 20 chartered flights departed from Kyiv on Sunday, more than at any other time in the last six years of flight observations, Ukrainskaya Pravda reported, citing flight logs. Ukraine's two richest men Rinat Akhmetov and Viktor Pinchuk are among those who have reportedly fled.

Shipping magnate Andrei Stavnitser and agricultural tycoon Vadim Nesterenko also left Ukraine on Sunday.

Billionaire Igor Abramovich, a deputy from the pro-Russian Opposition Platform — for Life party, reportedly chartered a plane for party members and their families to Vienna, with 50 people onboard.

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The spate of flights follows nearly two weeks of high-profile departures, with billionaire Victor Pinchuk and metallurgy magnate Vadim Novinsky already believed to have left the country.

Some of the individuals named in the latest report have since denied leaving, with Stavnitser said that he was leaving the country for a business trip and would return within days.

Businessman and former deputy prime minister Boris Kolesnikov, whose plane also departed Kyiv on Sunday, said that his plane had actually flown to Prague for maintenance, and that he was still in Ukraine.

“The deceitful and forever manipulating publication is lying as usual. I'm in Kyiv, and I'm not going anywhere until March 1,” Kolesnikov wrote on his Facebook page Sunday.

The report comes as tensions between Russia and the West over Ukraine reach an all-time high and threaten the outbreak of a new war in Europe.

Western warnings over the 100,000 Russian troops massed near Ukraine’s borders reached their gravest point yet as the United States said that Russia could launch an offensive at any time in the coming days, with the capital Kyiv among potential targets.

Moscow denies planning an invasion of its pro-Western neighbor but demands sweeping security guarantees, including a pledge that the U.S. and NATO permanently block Ukraine from joining the Western military alliance.

A flurry of diplomatic talks between Russia and Western countries have failed to significantly de-escalate tensions.

The U.S., UK, Germany and Canada have asked their citizens to leave Ukraine following Washington's warning of an impending Russian attack, and several countries have evacuated their embassies in Kyiv.

The Dutch carrier KLM became the first major airline over the weekend to indefinitely suspend flights to Kyiv.

Industry analysts believe other international airlines may soon also ban flights into Ukraine because of the growing cost to insurers.

AFP contributed reporting.

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Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Yes, yes, that's why they dropped the VDV in and tried to take Kiev....

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Simple thing is Putin thought he could pull off a 100 hour war...turns out, he couldn't.

Are you trying to be Jag? That article is from last year.

And if you are rich, you leave and protect your family. Would you do any different?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Yes, yes, that's why they dropped the VDV in and tried to take Kiev....

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

If and when Russia decides to take Kiev, the troops to do so will come in from Belarus. Reports are that Russia has had troops massed along the Belarus/Ukraine border for quite some time. Also, Belarus has committed its military in support of Russia.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Yes, yes, that's why they dropped the VDV in and tried to take Kiev....

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

If and when Russia decides to take Kiev, the troops to do so will come in from Belarus. Reports are that Russia has had troops massed along the Belarus/Ukraine border for quite some time. Also, Belarus has committed its military in support of Russia.

They did that...

We need to send US soldiers to fight for these corrupt billionaires. How's our economy doing today? Another 100 billion to Zelensky's Costa Rican offshore account. Slava Ukraine!!

https://www.occrp.org/en/the-pandor...ukrainian-president-and-his-inner-circle

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Ok. Wanna chat about gold? If not, piss off.

Huh?

Jag claims 22 trillion in gold was moved from the US to Britain.

His problem is, there isn't 22 trillion in gold in any country, or earth.

I'm having a bit of trouble with my arithmetic but I think a trillion dollars in gold is somewhere in the neighborhood of 29,000 short tons (2000 lbs.) or about 29,167 troy ounces per short ton. So 22 trillion is pretty easy to figure at 638,000 short tons. USGS says there are about 244,000 metric tons (2205 lbs.)of gold held in total on earth.

But there is issue of paper gold being traded around the world that has no gold behind it and there is a bunch of that going on which is what holds down the price. Ditto for silver.

I figured this roughly with a pencil on a paper towel so I may be off with my figures.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Yes, yes, that's why they dropped the VDV in and tried to take Kiev....

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

If and when Russia decides to take Kiev, the troops to do so will come in from Belarus. Reports are that Russia has had troops massed along the Belarus/Ukraine border for quite some time. Also, Belarus has committed its military in support of Russia.

They did that...

It was a feint intended to draw Ukranian troops north while Russia moved into the Donbass in the southeast

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Yes, yes, that's why they dropped the VDV in and tried to take Kiev....

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

If and when Russia decides to take Kiev, the troops to do so will come in from Belarus. Reports are that Russia has had troops massed along the Belarus/Ukraine border for quite some time. Also, Belarus has committed its military in support of Russia.

They did that...

It was a feint intended to draw Ukranian troops north while Russia moved into the Donbass in the southeast

So they killed their best airborne troops in a "feint?'

This was supposed to be Putins moment.

It failed in the first day.

Over a 100 billion to corrupt NAZis?

(JTA) — Ukrainian nationalists in Kiev chanted “Jews out” in German at a New Year’s Day march celebrating the birthday of a Nazi collaborator.

Thousands attended the event in the center of the Ukrainian capital celebrating Stepan Bandera, a leader of Ukraine’s nationalist movement in the 1930s and ’40s. They held up his portrait while an unidentified person shouted the anti-Semitic slogan on a loudspeaker, prompting many participants to repeat it, a video published by the Federal News Agency showed.

Originally Posted by ribka

Over a 100 billion to corrupt NAZis?

(JTA) — Ukrainian nationalists in Kiev chanted “Jews out” in German at a New Year’s Day march celebrating the birthday of a Nazi collaborator.

Thousands attended the event in the center of the Ukrainian capital celebrating Stepan Bandera, a leader of Ukraine’s nationalist movement in the 1930s and ’40s. They held up his portrait while an unidentified person shouted the anti-Semitic slogan on a loudspeaker, prompting many participants to repeat it, a video published by the Federal News Agency showed.

So, you will defend the Jews?

Anywhere?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It was a feint intended to draw Ukranian troops north while Russia moved into the Donbass in the southeast

So they killed their best airborne troops in a "feint?'

That's some real 4D chess right there.

Totally caught everyone of guard.

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Western media reports are notoriously unreliable. They've long been controlled by leftists.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's some real 4D chess right there.

Totally caught everyone of guard.

He's back.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Western media reports are notoriously unreliable. They've long been controlled by leftists.

Did they take over Kiev in 3 days?

Over a year now...

Russia should have spanked them...right?

Over a year...

You guys love America and the military...

Do you think if the US military could stage on Ukrains borders...it would take over a year?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

That's some real 4D chess right there.

Totally caught everyone of guard.

He's back.

Russia First Putin Pufter says what?

Originally Posted by Hastings

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down. Shouldn't be too hard, you look like you would get winded pretty quick.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Are you trying to be Jag? That article is from last year.

And if you are rich, you leave and protect your family. Would you do any different?

Quote

Patriotic Wealthy Ukrainian Families Flee Ukraine Motherland Leaving Defense To The Ukraine Common Citizens The Wealthy Have Grifted From For Years.

Slava Ukraine!

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's quite possible that the Russians don't want to advance past the Donbass region,..that they made Bahkmut a "killing field" where Zelensky continued sending troops into Bahkmut and the Russian military continued eliminating them.

It would make sense that Russia does not want to take the entirety of Ukraine where it would have to conduct an expensive, never ending occupation.

Russia wants to eliminate Ukraines ability to make war by eliminating its military and it wants the Donbass region returned to Russia.

Yes, yes, that's why they dropped the VDV in and tried to take Kiev....

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

If and when Russia decides to take Kiev, the troops to do so will come in from Belarus. Reports are that Russia has had troops massed along the Belarus/Ukraine border for quite some time. Also, Belarus has committed its military in support of Russia.

And if the invade from there, Poland will likely push their stool in.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Western media reports are notoriously unreliable. They've long been controlled by leftists.

Did they take over Kiev in 3 days?

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?

Reliable accounts concerning the situation in Ukraine are very difficult to come by. The American media just spews this and that,...whatever feeds its agenda.

It's easy to spot those on here who only look to the American media for their information.

AZgeopolitics is the best source I've found. But even it is spotty. A day or two usually elapses between its reports. But it does a good job of keeping up with where the line is drawn and if you watch it a while you can get a reasonably good idea of the direction Russia is taking.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Are you trying to be Jag? That article is from last year.

And if you are rich, you leave and protect your family. Would you do any different?

Quote

Patriotic Wealthy Ukrainian Families Flee Ukraine Motherland Leaving Defense To The Ukraine Common Citizens The Wealthy Have Grifted From For Years.

Slava Ukraine!

So, no answer?

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Western media reports are notoriously unreliable. They've long been controlled by leftists.

Did they take over Kiev in 3 days?

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?

Reliable accounts concerning the situation in Ukraine are very difficult to come by. The American media just spews this and that,...whatever feeds its agenda.

It's easy to spot those on here who only look to the American media for their information.

AZgeopolitics is the best source I've found. But even it is spotty. A day or two usually elapses between its reports. But it does a good job of keeping up with where the line is drawn and if you watch it a while you can get a reasonably good idea of the direction Russia is taking.

I believe Putin...dont you?

Most of the news coming from AZgeopolitics is about Xi's meeting with Putin. Although they don't go into great detail about it for the simple reason that nobody really knows what they discussed.

Of course, the western media will construct a complete narrative on what was discussed and present it to the people.

Current feed from AZgeopolitics.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Western media reports are notoriously unreliable. They've long been controlled by leftists.

Did they take over Kiev in 3 days?

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?

Reliable accounts concerning the situation in Ukraine are very difficult to come by. The American media just spews this and that,...whatever feeds its agenda.

It's easy to spot those on here who only look to the American media for their information.

AZgeopolitics is the best source I've found. But even it is spotty. A day or two usually elapses between its reports. But it does a good job of keeping up with where the line is drawn and if you watch it a while you can get a reasonably good idea of the direction Russia is taking.

A bunch of the pro-Russia crowd routinely post videos from sources that "called" the war over with Kiev under Russian control by days 3-4.

But they're "right" now......

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"Special operation" that is over a year...

Not so special. Your guy Putin messed up...

Originally Posted by goalie

A bunch of the pro-Russia crowd routinely post videos from sources that "called" the war over with Kiev under Russian control by days 3-4.

Are you speaking of people on here saying that?

I've not heard that from anyone on here. I've not seen anyone posting links from "news" organizations which said that.

Can you provide some?

My guess is "no".

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

A bunch of the pro-Russia crowd routinely post videos from sources that "called" the war over with Kiev under Russian control by days 3-4.

Are you speaking of people on here saying that?

I've not heard that from anyone on here. I've not seen anyone posting links from "news" organizations which said that.

Can you provide some?

My guess is "no".

Go on...

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

A bunch of the pro-Russia crowd routinely post videos from sources that "called" the war over with Kiev under Russian control by days 3-4.

Are you speaking of people on here saying that?

I've not heard that from anyone on here. I've not seen anyone posting links from "news" organizations which said that.

Can you provide some?

My guess is "no".

Go on...

Go on about what?

My statement is complete until somebody responds to it.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

A bunch of the pro-Russia crowd routinely post videos from sources that "called" the war over with Kiev under Russian control by days 3-4.

Are you speaking of people on here saying that?

I've not heard that from anyone on here. I've not seen anyone posting links from "news" organizations which said that.

Can you provide some?

My guess is "no".

Go on...

Go on about what?

My statement is complete until somebody responds to it.

Care to answer my questions?

Or just ignore them like Jag?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

"Special operation" that is over a year...

Not so special. Your guy Putin messed up...

The Puppet Ukraine Government the CYA installed preventing the implementation of the Minsk2 accord is who really messed up.

Prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

"Special operation" that is over a year...

Not so special. Your guy Putin messed up...

The Puppet Ukraine Government the CYA installed preventing the implementation of the Minsk2 accord is who really messed up.

Prove me wrong.

It is their country.

Prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

"Special operation" that is over a year...

Not so special. Your guy Putin messed up...

The Puppet Ukraine Government the CYA installed preventing the implementation of the Minsk2 accord is who really messed up.

Prove me wrong.

It is their country.

Prove me wrong.

And "their" is paying the price with death of "their" military soldiers.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

"Special operation" that is over a year...

Not so special. Your guy Putin messed up...

The Puppet Ukraine Government the CYA installed preventing the implementation of the Minsk2 accord is who really messed up.

Prove me wrong.

It is their country.

Prove me wrong.

And "their" is paying the price with death of "their" military soldiers.

That's what happens when you get invaded.

Nothing new.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

A bunch of the pro-Russia crowd routinely post videos from sources that "called" the war over with Kiev under Russian control by days 3-4.

Are you speaking of people on here saying that?

I've not heard that from anyone on here. I've not seen anyone posting links from "news" organizations which said that.

Can you provide some?

My guess is "no".

Go on...

Go on about what?

My statement is complete until somebody responds to it.

Care to answer my questions?

Or just ignore them like Jag?

I'm not sure what question you're speaking of. But no. I don't care to waste time responding to your blather. It became evident long ago that you're not tall enough for this ride. So I ignore you and say what I have to say.

What I say isn't intended for you. It's for those who are interested in keeping up with the situation in Ukraine.

You're not. You're just background noise.

Not the American taxpayer.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

A bunch of the pro-Russia crowd routinely post videos from sources that "called" the war over with Kiev under Russian control by days 3-4.

Are you speaking of people on here saying that?

I've not heard that from anyone on here. I've not seen anyone posting links from "news" organizations which said that.

Can you provide some?

My guess is "no".

Go on...

Go on about what?

My statement is complete until somebody responds to it.

Care to answer my questions?

Or just ignore them like Jag?

I'm not sure what question you're speaking of. But no. I don't care to waste time responding to your blather. It became evident long ago that you're not tall enough for this ride. So I ignore you and say what I have to say.

What I say isn't intended for you. It's for those who are interested in keeping up with the situation in Ukraine.

You're not. You're just background noise.

Big man. A true Libertarian.

Run and hide.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Putin...brilliant. "conserving infrastructure"

But that's their guy...

Ymmv

Got quiet quick.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

What does that even mean?

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

A bunch of the pro-Russia crowd routinely post videos from sources that "called" the war over with Kiev under Russian control by days 3-4.

Are you speaking of people on here saying that?

I've not heard that from anyone on here. I've not seen anyone posting links from "news" organizations which said that.

Can you provide some?

My guess is "no".

Lots of people right here are posting video daily from guys who called the war over on day three. Hint: a pedo and his buddy called it a tad early. They're still posted daily

Putin, Xi, guy from north korea...heros for some.

Weird.

Let's send another $130 billion to Zelenskiy and his wife. Screw Americans

Originally Posted by ribka

Let's send another $130 billion to Zelenskiy and his wife. Screw Americans

That is a VERY DIFFERENT ARGUMENT.

Lots here would agree.

Cmon Zelensky's wife wants another shopping spree in Paris

Cmon Zelenskiy patriots. We need to start another war to save the America!!

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

How about your lying dumbazz qoute.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I think it was on Task & Purpose channel on Youtube, they talked about supposedly captured Russian documents that showed a 2 week plan for cutting off Kiev. Seems to be pretty much on schedule.

Originally Posted by TryBoneHead the Lying Liar

Cmon super Patriots . Zelenskiy needs to break 5 billion in his offshore accounts and his wife needs to go shopping for luxury goods.

God bless Ukraine!! Lets kick some commie arse

Ukraine needs more money and blood!

Cmon patriots lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

How about your lying dumbazz qoute.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I think it was on Task & Purpose channel on Youtube, they talked about supposedly captured Russian documents that showed a 2 week plan for cutting off Kiev. Seems to be pretty much on schedule.

Originally Posted by TryBoneHead the Lying Liar

Let's go to wwar super patriots!!

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

Let's send another $130 billion to Zelenskiy and his wife. Screw Americans

That is a VERY DIFFERENT ARGUMENT.

Lots here would agree.

lol. clueless War is good and we treat our soldiers very good

Originally Posted by ribka

Ukraine needs more money and blood!

Cmon patriots lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

How about your lying dumbazz qoute.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I think it was on Task & Purpose channel on Youtube, they talked about supposedly captured Russian documents that showed a 2 week plan for cutting off Kiev. Seems to be pretty much on schedule.

Originally Posted by TryBoneHead the Lying Liar

Have fun not addressing any issue.

"Our sanctions against Russia actually improved our banking system and lowered inflation and DID NOT cause inflation" Joey Biden

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

How about your lying dumbazz qoute.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I think it was on Task & Purpose channel on Youtube, they talked about supposedly captured Russian documents that showed a 2 week plan for cutting off Kiev. Seems to be pretty much on schedule.

Originally Posted by TryBoneHead the Lying Liar

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Have fun not addressing any issue.[/quote]

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

How about your lying dumbazz qoute.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I think it was on Task & Purpose channel on Youtube, they talked about supposedly captured Russian documents that showed a 2 week plan for cutting off Kiev. Seems to be pretty much on schedule.

Johnny, tell us about how allowing an invading army 40 miles into your country screams "winning!"

Then tell us how your hero buddies won't defend you here because siding with a phag is bad for their business.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is forming a coalition against the west, and particularly against the U.S.A.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/geopolitical-rumblings-leave-us-behind.html

Men don't die in wars and it helps them become healthier in the mind. Slava Ukraine

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

Ukraine needs more money and blood!

Cmon patriots lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

How about your lying dumbazz qoute.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I think it was on Task & Purpose channel on Youtube, they talked about supposedly captured Russian documents that showed a 2 week plan for cutting off Kiev. Seems to be pretty much on schedule.

Originally Posted by TryBoneHead the Lying Liar

Have fun not addressing any issue.

With the extremely lowered standards in the military today, would they accept Jonnie Burns?

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is forming a coalition against the west, and particularly against the U.S.A.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/geopolitical-rumblings-leave-us-behind.html

Cheer them on...you hate your country. Don't you?

Originally Posted by ribka

With the extremely lowered standards in the military today, would they accept Jonnie Burns?

Are you joking?

Originally Posted by ribka

With the extremely lowered standards in the military today, would they accept Jonnie Burns?

Fighter pilots are allowed to have their own pufters in today's .mil. They don't even have to hide it.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by ribka

With the extremely lowered standards in the military today, would they accept Jonnie Burns?

Fighter pilots are allowed to have their own pufters in today's .mil. They don't even have to hide it.

What?

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

How about another of your lying dumbazz qoutes.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Good luck with that! We'll see how it ages.

(I give it week for the hunger to set in before Kyiv is abandoned.)

Originally Posted by TryBoneHead the Lying Liar

Originally Posted by JoeBob

It’s pretty apparent what happened.

Russia tried a lightning strike with very limited forces in unsupported flying columns to take over Ukraine. Those failed mainly because of US intelligence support. They were all ambushed and killed. There was even a statement by someone in the Ukrainian government that I’ve seen that admitted to as much.

Step two was a stronger approach designed to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table but still far less than all out war. That approach culminated in the peace plan put together in Istanbul agreed to by all last March but quickly squashed by a Boris Johnson trip to Kiev.

When that failed Russia mobilized reserves and here we are. It’s now a grinding war that Ukraine cannot win.

And as it stands, neither can Russia, just as long as we keep financing the ukrainians. You are in error about the original Russian assault. Their EOB was massive, but their combined arms was just as horribly planned and executed as Zhukov's was on the final assault on the Seelow heights where the remnants of the Wehrmacht (under Heinrici) exacted horrible losses. The Russians thought they could waltz into Kiev just like they did in Hungary, etc and just like their ineptness in Afghanistan, they got their asses handed to them. It's a third rate army and even worse officer corps.

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by JoeBob

It’s pretty apparent what happened.

Russia tried a lightning strike with very limited forces in unsupported flying columns to take over Ukraine. Those failed mainly because of US intelligence support. They were all ambushed and killed. There was even a statement by someone in the Ukrainian government that I’ve seen that admitted to as much.

Step two was a stronger approach designed to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table but still far less than all out war. That approach culminated in the peace plan put together in Istanbul agreed to by all last March but quickly squashed by a Boris Johnson trip to Kiev.

When that failed Russia mobilized reserves and here we are. It’s now a grinding war that Ukraine cannot win.

And as it stands, neither can Russia, just as long as we keep financing the ukrainians. You are in error about the original Russian assault. Their EOB was massive, but their combined arms was just as horribly planned and executed as Zhukov's was on the final assault on the Seelow heights where the remnants of the Wehrmacht (under Heinrici) exacted horrible losses. The Russians thought they could waltz into Kiev just like they did in Hungary, etc and just like their ineptness in Afghanistan, they got their asses handed to them. It's a third rate army and even worse officer corps.

Well, no kidding.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

How about another of your lying dumbazz qoutes.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Good luck with that! We'll see how it ages.

(I give it week for the hunger to set in before Kyiv is abandoned.)

I see you savor my posts, Giggles. 😂🤣😂

Save the one about your dad still not liking you. It'll be true for a long time.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Where did you get the information that Russia planned to take Kiev in three days?.

How about Dumbazz Dougie Macgregor?

Hey Johnny "Veteran Pufter", Mac is one person. Not a RU official either.

How about another of your lying dumbazz qoutes.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Good luck with that! We'll see how it ages.

(I give it week for the hunger to set in before Kyiv is abandoned.)

I see you savor my posts, Giggles. 😂🤣😂

Save the one about your dad still not liking you. It'll be true for a long time.

His old man don't like faqqs?

Originally Posted by Kodiakisland

China

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

Originally Posted by Raferman

His old man don't like faqqs?

Nobody does. They'll take his "gifts" though.

Kind of like the US walzing into Afghanistan going after high jackers who were from Saudi Arabia , UAE, Egypt ( of course we did nothing to these countries and they remained our friends) and spending 20 years there to end up fleeing in defeat arming terrorists with billions of dollars of our weapons so they can be used against us again. Kind of like us arming UKo NAZIs now in Ukraine

Funny as soon as we fled Afghanistan they started a proxy war with Russia

slava Ukraine

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by JoeBob

It’s pretty apparent what happened.

Russia tried a lightning strike with very limited forces in unsupported flying columns to take over Ukraine. Those failed mainly because of US intelligence support. They were all ambushed and killed. There was even a statement by someone in the Ukrainian government that I’ve seen that admitted to as much.

Step two was a stronger approach designed to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table but still far less than all out war. That approach culminated in the peace plan put together in Istanbul agreed to by all last March but quickly squashed by a Boris Johnson trip to Kiev.

When that failed Russia mobilized reserves and here we are. It’s now a grinding war that Ukraine cannot win.

And as it stands, neither can Russia, just as long as we keep financing the ukrainians. You are in error about the original Russian assault. Their EOB was massive, but their combined arms was just as horribly planned and executed as Zhukov's was on the final assault on the Seelow heights where the remnants of the Wehrmacht (under Heinrici) exacted horrible losses. The Russians thought they could waltz into Kiev just like they did in Hungary, etc and just like their ineptness in Afghanistan, they got their asses handed to them. It's a third rate army and even worse officer corps.

Jorge is our proxy war with Russia affecting our economy, inflation in a good way or bad way? Did sky rocketing inflation help collapse our banking system? How is our stock market doing with this proxy war? Anyone look at their 401k recently? lol

thanks

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by JoeBob

It’s pretty apparent what happened.

Russia tried a lightning strike with very limited forces in unsupported flying columns to take over Ukraine. Those failed mainly because of US intelligence support. They were all ambushed and killed. There was even a statement by someone in the Ukrainian government that I’ve seen that admitted to as much.

Step two was a stronger approach designed to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table but still far less than all out war. That approach culminated in the peace plan put together in Istanbul agreed to by all last March but quickly squashed by a Boris Johnson trip to Kiev.

When that failed Russia mobilized reserves and here we are. It’s now a grinding war that Ukraine cannot win.

And as it stands, neither can Russia, just as long as we keep financing the ukrainians. You are in error about the original Russian assault. Their EOB was massive, but their combined arms was just as horribly planned and executed as Zhukov's was on the final assault on the Seelow heights where the remnants of the Wehrmacht (under Heinrici) exacted horrible losses. The Russians thought they could waltz into Kiev just like they did in Hungary, etc and just like their ineptness in Afghanistan, they got their asses handed to them. It's a third rate army and even worse officer corps.

I love the attempt to act like, somehow, if only we didn't send money and equipment to Ukraine, that the money would be spent responsibly here on things like veterans programs.

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Originally Posted by goalie

I love the attempt to act like, somehow, if only we didn't send money and equipment to Ukraine, that the money would be spent responsibly here on things like veterans programs.

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Not giving them an excuse to spend it would have been best.

Just in. Another 350 million dollars in weaponry to Ukraine from Biden.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Just in. Another 350 million dollars in weaponry to Ukraine from Biden.

and no money for our homeless vets whose numbers are sky rocketing!!!

Slava Ukraine!!!!!!

Ukraine drone attacks against civilians in Crimea.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1637910722733649922

Originally Posted by goalie

I love the attempt to act like, somehow, if only we didn't send money and equipment to Ukraine, that the money would be spent responsibly here on things like veterans programs.

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Our social security is going teats up soon because we are in so much debt. No money for Americans who paid in the system . another $130 billion for Ukraine even though we have zero accountability where the money goes other than uko NAZis

slava Ukraine and laughing all of the way to the bank at American idiots

Another report

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1637911145217499139

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Another report

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1637911145217499139

typical, targeting families in their homes like they have been doing since 2014

Some fireworks in Crimea.
Russian holiday ?
Putin looks like he's up-armored pretty well under his puffy coat.

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Some fireworks in Crimea.
Russian holiday ?
Putin looks like he's up-armored pretty well under his puffy coat.

liar Putin died last May from cancer. Learned it here on the fire lol

I guess that depends on who you listen to and believe. For me Russis is in control. As they should be.

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Just in. Another 350 million dollars in weaponry to Ukraine from Biden.

and no money for our homeless vets whose numbers are sky rocketing!!!

Slava Ukraine!!!!!!

It's an issue now?

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I see you savor my posts, Giggles. 😂🤣😂

Save the one about your dad still not liking you. It'll be true for a long time.

My father died last Christmas and you're still a lying POS who brings family in because you suck at life.

Originally Posted by Raferman

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I see you savor my posts, Giggles. 😂🤣😂

Save the one about your dad still not liking you. It'll be true for a long time.

His old man don't like faqqs?

You're an envious bitter old man who sucks at life.

The Putin Pufters are only going to get more bitter as things progress in Ukraine.

Personal family attacks because they know they supported a Genocidal manic.

Originally Posted by NoDak

I guess that depends on who you listen to and believe. For me Russis is in control. As they should be.

Pravda or TASS ?

Laffin

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is forming a coalition against the west, and particularly against the U.S.A.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/geopolitical-rumblings-leave-us-behind.html

Cheer them on...you hate your country. Don't you?

Sounds like a liberal playing the race card when they are losing an argument, Instead of "you're a racist" it's "you hate your country"

MAGA!

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by goalie

I love the attempt to act like, somehow, if only we didn't send money and equipment to Ukraine, that the money would be spent responsibly here on things like veterans programs.

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Our social security is going teats up soon because we are in so much debt. No money for Americans who paid in the system . another $130 billion for Ukraine even though we have zero accountability where the money goes other than uko NAZis

slava Ukraine and laughing all of the way to the bank at American idiots

Yes, yes, that less than 1% of the budget we have sent to the Ukes is gonna break us, not the 50+% we spend on entitlement BS yearly.,......

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Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

"Special operation" that is over a year...

Not so special. Your guy Putin messed up...

The Puppet Ukraine Government the CYA installed preventing the implementation of the Minsk2 accord is who really messed up.

Prove me wrong.

It is their country.

Prove me wrong.

And "their" is paying the price with death of "their" military soldiers.

It is the country of the Ukrainians but they are governed by a POS puppet govt the NWO set up with Nuland, Soros, Zero, John McLame, Joe Bidet and Kilery after fomenting an illegal coup in order to steal Billions in US Foreign Aid money supposedly sent to help the people get businesses going. The aid was moneylaundered for illegal kickbacks in the form of bequeathments and book deals and great Hunter artwork to US politicians like Piglosi, Kerry, Joe, Schumer, Graham, etc. AND, Kilerys and Yovanovitchs billion dollar Baby Factories for "fetal" stem cell research and other Satanic purposes.

Like Q said, "These people are Sick.

Money was also laundered to the WEF and CEE WHY AYE.

Jqube and Burnsie don't want that money drying up for some reasons and Graham, Pedo Joe and others don't want it drying up for obvious reasons.

Too bad, as Q said, Hunters bank records will open the Pandoras Box of the Political Elite.

Sorry, Jque, it's all going to come out in the wash just as Q said.

Comer just got the documents.

GOD WINS.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I see you savor my posts, Giggles. 😂🤣😂

Save the one about your dad still not liking you. It'll be true for a long time.

My father died last Christmas and you're still a lying POS who brings family in because you suck at life.

Originally Posted by Raferman

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I see you savor my posts, Giggles. 😂🤣😂

Save the one about your dad still not liking you. It'll be true for a long time.

His old man don't like faqqs?

You're an envious bitter old man who sucks at life.

The Putin Pufters are only going to get more bitter as things progress in Ukraine.

Personal family attacks because they know they supported a Genocidal manic.

If you get scared about when Putin sends for you it might be a good idea to prepare one of those spider holes like the one Saddam Hussein was found in. Maybe you could get one fixed up and stocked with proper food and drink over on the Wind River Reservation. You'll be safe there. It's a big place and those Indians won't rat you out. Be sure and put a sealable 5 gallon bucket in there for sanitation.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

I see you savor my posts, Giggles. 😂🤣😂

Save the one about your dad still not liking you. It'll be true for a long time.

My father died last Christmas and you're still a lying POS who brings family in because you suck at life.

I like your father. May he RIP. It's you that I don't care for.

Originally Posted by Hastings

If you get scared about when Putin sends for you it might be a good idea to prepare one of those spider holes like the one Saddam Hussein was found in. Maybe you could get one fixed up and stocked with proper food and drink over on the Wind River Reservation. You'll be safe there. It's a big place and those Indians won't rat you out. Be sure and put a sealable 5 gallon bucket in there for sanitation.

I am far from scared because the Putin Pufters like you just brag about helping the Orcs put American Citizens in Russian prison from behind your keyboard.

You will never be schiet, simply suck at life, and hide behind a key board.

Just noting that the whine from the Putin Pufters is going to get higher as events unfold in Ukraine.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

If you get scared about when Putin sends for you it might be a good idea to prepare one of those spider holes like the one Saddam Hussein was found in. Maybe you could get one fixed up and stocked with proper food and drink over on the Wind River Reservation. You'll be safe there. It's a big place and those Indians won't rat you out. Be sure and put a sealable 5 gallon bucket in there for sanitation.

I am far from scared because the Putin Pufters like you just brag about helping the Orcs put American Citizens in Russian prison from behind your keyboard.

You will never be schiet, simply suck at life, and hide behind a key board.

Just noting that the whine from the Putin Pufters is going to get higher as events unfold in Ukraine.

Time will tell

Originally Posted by Hastings

Time will tell

We already know you're an Anti American Russia First traitor hiding behind her keyboard threatening to help the Orcs put Americans in Russian prison.

That's an established fact.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Time will tell

We already know you're an Anti American Russia First traitor hiding behind her keyboard threatening to help the Orcs put Americans in Russian prison.

That's an established fact.

And?

Ahead of a meeting between Putin and Xi, White House NSC spokesperson John Kirby declares that any "call for a ceasefire" in Ukraine is "unacceptable." https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1637627032686190593
— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) March 20, 2023

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Time will tell

We already know you're an Anti American Russia First traitor hiding behind her keyboard threatening to help the Orcs put Americans in Russian prison.

That's an established fact.

And?

Originally Posted by Hastings

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down. Shouldn't be too hard, you look like you would get winded pretty quick.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Jcubed

"Special operation" that is over a year...

Not so special. Your guy Putin messed up...

The Puppet Ukraine Government the CYA installed preventing the implementation of the Minsk2 accord is who really messed up.

Prove me wrong.

It is their country.

Prove me wrong.

And "their" is paying the price with death of "their" military soldiers.

It is the country of the Ukrainians but they are governed by a POS puppet govt the NWO set up with Nuland, Soros, Zero, John McLame, Joe Bidet and Kilery after fomenting an illegal coup in order to steal Billions in US Foreign Aid money supposedly sent to help the people get businesses going. The aid was moneylaundered for illegal kickbacks in the form of bequeathments and book deals and great Hunter artwork to US politicians like Piglosi, Kerry, Joe, Schumer, Graham, etc. AND, Kilerys and Yovanovitchs billion dollar Baby Factories for "fetal" stem cell research and other Satanic purposes.

Like Q said, "These people are Sick.

Money was also laundered to the WEF and CEE WHY AYE.

Jqube and Burnsie don't want that money drying up for some reasons and Graham, Pedo Joe and others don't want it drying up for obvious reasons.

Too bad, as Q said, Hunters bank records will open the Pandoras Box of the Political Elite.

Sorry, Jque, it's all going to come out in the wash just as Q said.

Comer just got the documents.

GOD WINS.

300,000,000 Blind Mice ..

See How they Shun the Light..

They seek No Truth ..

300,000,000 Blind Mice

See how they Run …

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Ahead of a meeting between Putin and Xi, White House NSC spokesperson John Kirby declares that any "call for a ceasefire" in Ukraine is "unacceptable." https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1637627032686190593
— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) March 20, 2023

Viewed the content in that link. John Kirby speaks with forked tongue. Almost babbling.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Fubarski

Ahead of a meeting between Putin and Xi, White House NSC spokesperson John Kirby declares that any "call for a ceasefire" in Ukraine is "unacceptable." https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1637627032686190593
— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) March 20, 2023

Viewed the content in that link. John Kirby speaks with forked tongue. Almost babbling.

Ya hafta babble, when you're tryin ta justify your country decreeing that two other countries hafta keep on fightin, and can't even talk bout stoppin.

They All speak in Tongues..

You ain’t Seen Nothing Yet ..

The latest word I've found says that Ukraine has launched a drone attack on a civilian area of Crimea. I strongly suspect that there will be serious retaliation for that. In fact, it may have already occurred. It takes a while for news to make it out of there.

You believe Russian propaganda? What a fool.

Furthermore, after Russia’s wholesale destruction of civilian areas in Ukraine the Russians can’t complain about Ukraine attacking Russian forces in civilian areas. What would be great if Ukraine could strike and destroy Russia’s energy sector including the distribution of electricity. A couple of thousand cruise missiles should do the job.

Pravda has nothing on our MSM.

Originally Posted by ConradCA

You believe Russian propaganda? What a fool.

Furthermore, after Russia’s wholesale destruction of civilian areas in Ukraine the Russians can’t complain about Ukraine attacking Russian forces in civilian areas. What would be great if Ukraine could strike and destroy Russia’s energy sector including the distribution of electricity. A couple of thousand cruise missiles should do the job.

california? lol. go take a nap old boomer and have your great leader Newsome read you a bedtime story .

The world has passed you by. The younger generations are tired of old demented chicken hawks like you wanting constant wars

Originally Posted by ConradCA

You believe Russian propaganda? What a fool.

Furthermore, after Russia’s wholesale destruction of civilian areas in Ukraine the Russians can’t complain about Ukraine attacking Russian forces in civilian areas. What would be great if Ukraine could strike and destroy Russia’s energy sector including the distribution of electricity. A couple of thousand cruise missiles should do the job.

Yeah,..well, keep on supporting Biden and the leftist crazies who control him. You'll get exactly what they have planned for you.

Originally Posted by ConradCA

You believe Russian propaganda? What a fool.

Furthermore, after Russia’s wholesale destruction of civilian areas in Ukraine the Russians can’t complain about Ukraine attacking Russian forces in civilian areas. What would be great if Ukraine could strike and destroy Russia’s energy sector including the distribution of electricity. A couple of thousand cruise missiles should do the job.

Those Things Don’t Grow on Trees Pugsley ..

Originally Posted by akrange

Originally Posted by ConradCA

You believe Russian propaganda? What a fool.

Furthermore, after Russia’s wholesale destruction of civilian areas in Ukraine the Russians can’t complain about Ukraine attacking Russian forces in civilian areas. What would be great if Ukraine could strike and destroy Russia’s energy sector including the distribution of electricity. A couple of thousand cruise missiles should do the job.

Those Things Don’t Grow on Trees Pugsley ..

we should send Conrad with his walker and bag of prunes, cricket phone and his TV guide ( big print version) over to Bakhmut to fight Putin

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The latest word I've found says that Ukraine has launched a drone attack on a civilian area of Crimea. I strongly suspect that there will be serious retaliation for that. In fact, it may have already occurred. It takes a while for news to make it out of there.

Railway hub in Dzhankoy.

The secondaries are Orc Kaliber cruise missles on railcars.

It's nice to be a WIZARD.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The latest word I've found says that Ukraine has launched a drone attack on a civilian area of Crimea. I strongly suspect that there will be serious retaliation for that. In fact, it may have already occurred. It takes a while for news to make it out of there.

Railway hub in Dzhankoy.

The secondaries are Orc Kaliber cruise missles on railcars.

It's nice to be a WIZARD.

Bottoms up Johnnie. See you've already OD'd again

Fights not over but for now:

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Originally Posted by ribka

Bottoms up Johnnie. See you've already OD'd again

Overweight senile diabetics with high blood pressure are ill advised to be drinking.

Who is on first.

Almost forgot todays report: Russia is winning.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Almost forgot todays report: Russia is winning.

Are they advancing?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Fights not over but for now:

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Reports indicate that Ukraine is transferring troops from everywhere to make a big push in Bakhmut on the 24th.

Zelensky has gotten the Ukraine military decimated in Bakhmut and he just keeps sending more in. Russia has already moved many troops west of Bakhmut.

I can only guess that Zelensky thinks if the carnage gets bad enough that NATO will step in.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Fights not over but for now:

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Originally Posted by Bristoe

Reports indicate that Ukraine is transferring troops from everywhere to make a big push in Bakhmut on the 24th.

Zelensky has gotten the Ukraine military decimated in Bakhmut and he just keeps sending more in. Russia has already moved many troops west of Bakhmut.

I can only guess that Zelensky thinks if the carnage gets bad enough that NATO will step in.

Who cares. Commies attacking money launderes.

Originally Posted by TimberRunner

Who cares. Commies attacking money launderes.

News flash: Russia no more Commie nation. USof A on the other hand....

Keep calling Russians "Orcs".

Never gets old. LMF

Originally Posted by TimberRunner

Who cares. Commies attacking money launderes.

Not exactly Commies anymore, but let 'em fight. Just not with our money. What is it to us if Ukraine gets annihilated?

Russia, China, and South Asia might just thwart the NWO plans.

Pray that the bankers, NWO, WEF, Soros, Klaus Schwab, all get their A$$ handed to them after it has been thoroughly bloodied.

Not likely, but we can hope.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by TimberRunner

Who cares. Commies attacking money launderes.

Not exactly Commies anymore, but let 'em fight. Just not with our money. What is it to us if Ukraine gets annihilated?

Russia, China, and South Asia might just thwart the NWO plans.

Pray that the bankers, NWO, WEF, Soros, Klaus Schwab, all get their A$$ handed to them after it has been thoroughly bloodied.

Not likely, but we can hope.

Russia First Commie says WHAT?

Originally Posted by Hastings

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down. Shouldn't be too hard, you look like you would get winded pretty quick.

Where are you in that picture John? I think it’s actually a cool picture. 👍🏼

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Where are you in that picture John? I think it’s actually a cool picture. 👍🏼

I took the picture.

Some other thread I broke down who was in the picture.

2 Delta guys, a SEAL, a Ranger Sniper, and an Army AMU shooter all who are now out of the service.

Add in the CEO of the Federalist and the Montana AG.

I couldn't find any elk so we were shooting LR rocks and goofing off in the desert. Fun day.

Gotcha. That is a cool photo.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Fights not over but for now:

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Reports indicate that Ukraine is transferring troops from everywhere to make a big push in Bakhmut on the 24th.

Zelensky has gotten the Ukraine military decimated in Bakhmut and he just keeps sending more in. Russia has already moved many troops west of Bakhmut.

I can only guess that Zelensky thinks if the carnage gets bad enough that NATO will step in.

VDV down by 50%
Wagner, the Russian Labor Ready in Bakhmut are pleading for ammo as they lose more and more personnel.
160,000, conservative estimate of Russian losses.
Pravda, "Don't worry, we are winning."

Originally Posted by ribka

Jorge is our proxy war with Russia affecting our economy, inflation in a good way or bad way? Did sky rocketing inflation help collapse our banking system? How is our stock market doing with this proxy war? Anyone look at their 401k recently? lol

thanks

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by JoeBob

It’s pretty apparent what happened.

Russia tried a lightning strike with very limited forces in unsupported flying columns to take over Ukraine. Those failed mainly because of US intelligence support. They were all ambushed and killed. There was even a statement by someone in the Ukrainian government that I’ve seen that admitted to as much.

Step two was a stronger approach designed to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table but still far less than all out war. That approach culminated in the peace plan put together in Istanbul agreed to by all last March but quickly squashed by a Boris Johnson trip to Kiev.

When that failed Russia mobilized reserves and here we are. It’s now a grinding war that Ukraine cannot win.

And as it stands, neither can Russia, just as long as we keep financing the ukrainians. You are in error about the original Russian assault. Their EOB was massive, but their combined arms was just as horribly planned and executed as Zhukov's was on the final assault on the Seelow heights where the remnants of the Wehrmacht (under Heinrici) exacted horrible losses. The Russians thought they could waltz into Kiev just like they did in Hungary, etc and just like their ineptness in Afghanistan, they got their asses handed to them. It's a third rate army and even worse officer corps.

What the F uck are you talking about? Where have I stated ANYTHING positive about the ukraine mess or are you just being an ass? As to Afghanistan, once again reading comprehension FAIL. The Russians got the asses handed to them there, we did not. As usual, an inept political class defeated us. It was the RIGHT MOVE to go into Afghanistan, but we should have left immediately after the defeat of Taliban. simple.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

WEREWOLVES!

Like John Kirby said yesterday, if Putin and Xi come up with " a plan for a cease fire, THAT WILL BE JUST UNACCEPTABLE ".

Is that a clue?

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Fights not over but for now:

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Reports indicate that Ukraine is transferring troops from everywhere to make a big push in Bakhmut on the 24th.

Zelensky has gotten the Ukraine military decimated in Bakhmut and he just keeps sending more in. Russia has already moved many troops west of Bakhmut.

I can only guess that Zelensky thinks if the carnage gets bad enough that NATO will step in.

VDV down by 50%
Wagner, the Russian Labor Ready in Bakhmut are pleading for ammo as they lose more and more personnel.
160,000, conservative estimate of Russian losses.
Pravda, "Don't worry, we are winning."

DD, as a liieberal, have you ever told the truth?

Always interesting with Scott...thanks for posting.

The in-depth history both he and Macgregor have of that region keeps one spellbound.

So we won the war in Afghanistan but fled , the government collapsed and let our allies get killed just like in Vietnam which we lost too.

and we left billions in weapons to terrorists.

Lol

That sounds like winning. Why did we invade Afghanistan again?

I forgot

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by ribka

Jorge is our proxy war with Russia affecting our economy, inflation in a good way or bad way? Did sky rocketing inflation help collapse our banking system? How is our stock market doing with this proxy war? Anyone look at their 401k recently? lol

thanks

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by JoeBob

It’s pretty apparent what happened.

Russia tried a lightning strike with very limited forces in unsupported flying columns to take over Ukraine. Those failed mainly because of US intelligence support. They were all ambushed and killed. There was even a statement by someone in the Ukrainian government that I’ve seen that admitted to as much.

Step two was a stronger approach designed to bring Ukraine to the negotiating table but still far less than all out war. That approach culminated in the peace plan put together in Istanbul agreed to by all last March but quickly squashed by a Boris Johnson trip to Kiev.

When that failed Russia mobilized reserves and here we are. It’s now a grinding war that Ukraine cannot win.

And as it stands, neither can Russia, just as long as we keep financing the ukrainians. You are in error about the original Russian assault. Their EOB was massive, but their combined arms was just as horribly planned and executed as Zhukov's was on the final assault on the Seelow heights where the remnants of the Wehrmacht (under Heinrici) exacted horrible losses. The Russians thought they could waltz into Kiev just like they did in Hungary, etc and just like their ineptness in Afghanistan, they got their asses handed to them. It's a third rate army and even worse officer corps.

What the F uck are you talking about? Where have I stated ANYTHING positive about the ukraine mess or are you just being an ass? As to Afghanistan, once again reading comprehension FAIL. The Russians got the asses handed to them there, we did not. As usual, an inept political class defeated us. It was the RIGHT MOVE to go into Afghanistan, but we should have left immediately after the defeat of Taliban. simple.

Originally Posted by CGPAUL

Always interesting with Scott...thanks for posting.

The in-depth history both he and Macgregor have of that region keeps one spellbound.

Does the fact that both have a long track record of always being wrong keep you "spellbound"?

It's interesting you are "spellbound" by a convicted sex offender.

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"Victory" is something Johnny won't define.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The latest word I've found says that Ukraine has launched a drone attack on a civilian area of Crimea. I strongly suspect that there will be serious retaliation for that. In fact, it may have already occurred. It takes a while for news to make it out of there.

Railway hub in Dzhankoy.

The secondaries are Orc Kaliber cruise missles on railcars.

It's nice to be a WIZARD.

This aged well as always.

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Yea, a hellofalot more Spellbound than what the jokers here have to say...but you keep trying.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by TimberRunner

Who cares. Commies attacking money launderes.

Not exactly Commies anymore, but let 'em fight. Just not with our money. What is it to us if Ukraine gets annihilated?

Russia, China, and South Asia might just thwart the NWO plans.

Pray that the bankers, NWO, WEF, Soros, Klaus Schwab, all get their A$$ handed to them after it has been thoroughly bloodied.

Not likely, but we can hope.

Russia First Commie says WHAT?

Originally Posted by Hastings

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down. Shouldn't be too hard, you look like you would get winded pretty quick.

Johnny: I see you're up and about. Good afternoon.

How are you today?

Why don't you think about admitting that sending all that money and equipment to Ukraine was a real bad idea?

Originally Posted by CGPAUL

Yea, a hellofalot more Spellbound than what the jokers here have to say...but you keep trying.

Liberals that deep throated the ghost of kiev, snake island and an old man that shot down a Russian fighter jet with a bolt action rifle, dis MacGregor because he took an umbrella to work one day, and it didn't rain.

I wish they would both disappear.

It's looking like Kiev is going to end up with a lot of ghosts before it's over.

For the Grownups.

Current
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10 hours old
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Originally Posted by jaguartx

Yes, I'm sure you think sending convicts as cannon fodder is a good thing. It's probably the only way to save us from the NWO globohomo invasion.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Yes, I'm sure you think sending convicts as cannon fodder is a good thing. It's probably the only way to save us from the NWO globohomo invasion.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

The US used convicts as cannon fodder in WW2, Vietnam so it must be ok

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Yes, I'm sure you think sending convicts as cannon fodder is a good thing. It's probably the only way to save us from the NWO globohomo invasion.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

The US used convicts as cannon fodder in WW2, Vietnam so it must be ok

Goldie doesn't realize I'm only reporting the news.

He doesn't mind the Nazi Ukes using 15 year old conscripts as cannon fodder.

Goldie, so how many more years are you OK with your satanic anti Christian Nazi buds of your bud Obamas puppet govt in Ukraine killing the Eastern Ukrainian Orthodox Russian Christians. They killed 14,000 since the Soros/Obama/Kilery/Bidet puppet undemocratic govt was set up in 2014?

We know the answer. You'd just as soon your antichristian UN buds killed them all, just as they and you approved of the Ugandan Christian massacres and the massacre of middle east Christian refuges by Muslims in the refugee camps and you're just fine with the UN only selecting muxxys for immigration to the US.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Goldie, so how many more years are you OK with your satanic anti Christian Nazi buds of your bud Obamas puppet govt in Ukraine killing the Eastern Ukrainian Orthodox Russian Christians. They killed 14,000 since the Soros/Obama/Kilery/Bidet puppet undemocratic govt was set up in 2014?

We know the answer. You'd just as soon your antichristian UN buds killed them all, just as they and you approved of the Ugandan Christian massacres and the massacre of middle east Christian refuges by Muslims in the refugee camps and you're just fine with the UN only selecting muxxys for immigration to the US.

Orcs are still sending human wave attacks but for now:

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Burns, you selling Ukraine those $5k long range mallets for their Leupis ?

You are really in LA LA land on anything Ukraine.

Congrats.....

Originally Posted by hicountry

Burns, you selling Ukraine those $5k long range mallets for their Leupis ?

You are really in LA LA land on anything Ukraine.

Congrats.....

Burnsie is scared now since I told I would help catch him when the Russians come for him. He doesn't want to have to eat beet soup the rest of his life. Although it would probably help him to get on a low fat, low glucose diet. I think Russia did away with the death penalty.

Lol !!!

By the looks of things, he ain't running away from anybody !

I'm waiting for him to volunteer to go arrest Putin....

Daily report: Russia is winning via the "Russian Grind"

Ukes are running out of warm bodies, they're toast. I just wish Pres. Putin would send a hypersonic missile up Zelensky's kosher backside.

Burns is a weak coward who purposefully chose a non combat MOS in the AF to remove himself from any risk then gloms on to Spec op guys now to market his second rate over priced fake tactics cool schit now .

The king of cough syrup grift. lol

Originally Posted by hicountry

Lol !!!

By the looks of things, he ain't running away from anybody !

I'm waiting for him to volunteer to go arrest Putin....

Originally Posted by ribka

Burns is a weak coward who purposefully chose a non combat MOS in the AF to remove himself from any risk then gloms on to Spec op guys now to market his second rate over priced fake tactics cool schit now .

The king of cough syrup grift. lol

Sad, and pathetic. He shouts 'Wolverines!!' from behind a big boulder and tells others to go die for his personal politics.

Originally Posted by ribbyKaKa

Originally Posted by gonehuntin

Originally Posted by ribka

Burns is a weak coward who purposefully chose a non combat MOS in the AF to remove himself from any risk then gloms on to Spec op guys now to market his second rate over priced fake tactics cool schit now .

The king of cough syrup grift. lol

Sad, and pathetic. He shouts 'Wolverines!!' from behind a big boulder and tells others to go die for his personal politics.

burns imbibing again

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Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by ribbyKaKa

Originally Posted by gonehuntin

Originally Posted by ribka

Burns is a weak coward who purposefully chose a non combat MOS in the AF to remove himself from any risk then gloms on to Spec op guys now to market his second rate over priced fake tactics cool schit now .

The king of cough syrup grift. lol

Sad, and pathetic. He shouts 'Wolverines!!' from behind a big boulder and tells others to go die for his personal politics.

Originally Posted by ribbyKaKa

Originally Posted by ribka

burns imbibing again

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ribka: See if you can keep Johnny Burns upset today. I will be out travelling most of the day and unable to point out his (bleep).

He probably won't be up and going until noon or later. Thanks

Gave Him some Space ..

The Burning Bush is suffering from Unattended Syphillis ..

Mr badaaasss Burns, can save the world by arresting Putin.

He can take his $10k Sendero "system", along with his $5k leupi long range mallet

Heck, I'll even pay for his airfare to Moscow....

Don’t care

Originally Posted by ribka

That sounds like winning. Why did we invade Afghanistan again?

I forgot

You are almost as good as Bristoe when it comes to cherry picking facts to fit your narrative, in 2002-3, Afghanistan was a complete victory by any valid measure and we should have left then. Unfortunately, the MIC got in the way and wanted to make money so we stayed and THAT was a waste. Then of course, I think even you can figure out the mess Biden created after Trump had a valid exit strategy. But anyway, something tells me you do better when pictures are involved. Yes I know they were Saudis, but Afghanistan was where they trained.

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Originally Posted by stevelyn

So, if/when the Ukes get long range strike capabilities, they should do the same to Russia, right? Or should they stick to just taking out Moscow's power grid and leave apartment buildings alone?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by stevelyn

So, if/when the Ukes get long range strike capabilities, they should do the same to Russia, right? Or should they stick to just taking out Moscow's power grid and leave apartment buildings alone?

If Ukraine tries that, Russia will use tactical nukes on them.

Biden and his pretend administration have another first to be proud about. They have encouraged our enemies to unite with Russia and test their weapons in actual combat situations. Both the Obama and Biden Administrations catered to the mullahs in Iran allowing them to arm themselves to the teeth while denigrating us as the “great satin”. This war which we are directly responsible for is bringing Russia, China and Iran together to fight our proxy war. We created the situation. We nurtured it. Now we will reap the benefits of out insanity.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by stevelyn

So, if/when the Ukes get long range strike capabilities, they should do the same to Russia, right? Or should they stick to just taking out Moscow's power grid and leave apartment buildings alone?

If Ukraine tries that, Russia will use tactical nukes on them.

So, with your logic, had Ukraine not given up their nukes, they'd be justified in using them already. Got it.

Originally Posted by goalie

So, with your logic, had Ukraine not given up their nukes, they'd be justified in using them already. Got it.

If Ukraine had nukes, Putin wouldn't be running wild like he is now.

Budapest Memorandum

On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Britain, and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state.

Russia has violated this agreement that's why we are where we are and why more states want to join NATO.
Russia, under the current regime, cannot be trusted.

Just wave an American flag in front of low IQ American and you can convince him/her to destroy our country in the name of democracy.

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by goalie

So, with your logic, had Ukraine not given up their nukes, they'd be justified in using them already. Got it.

If Ukraine had nukes, Putin wouldn't be running wild like he is now.

Budapest Memorandum

On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Britain, and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state.

Russia has violated this agreement that's why we are where we are and why more states want to join NATO.
Russia, under the current regime, cannot be trusted.

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by goalie

So, with your logic, had Ukraine not given up their nukes, they'd be justified in using them already. Got it.

If Ukraine had nukes, Putin wouldn't be running wild like he is now.

Budapest Memorandum

On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Britain, and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state.

Russia has violated this agreement that's why we are where we are and why more states want to join NATO.
Russia, under the current regime, cannot be trusted.

What’s your handle on hunttalk?

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by goalie

So, with your logic, had Ukraine not given up their nukes, they'd be justified in using them already. Got it.

If Ukraine had nukes, Putin wouldn't be running wild like he is now.

Budapest Memorandum

On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Britain, and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state.

Russia has violated this agreement that's why we are where we are and why more states want to join NATO.
Russia, under the current regime, cannot be trusted.

What’s your handle on hunttalk?

BAM!!! That'll leave a mark....

I thought they were trained in US flight schools in Minnesota, Florida, Arizona?

Why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia and the UAE? Why did Bush, the worst president in our history, secretly fly out the Saudi royal family on 911?

How many terrrorist training schools did we find in Afghanistan in 20 years? Why did the US arm these same terrorists in the 1980's?

FYI most of the terrorist aid and training was and still done in Pakistan which we still give billions of dollars in US aid

Why were us soldiers used to protect poppy heroin fields in Afghanistan? Is that to support democracy? Is that to help our drug epidemic in the US?

Why were US soldiers directed to not complain about the rampant rape of young slave boys occurring in front of them in Afghanistan?

To protect democracy? lol

making fake wars is good money

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by ribka

That sounds like winning. Why did we invade Afghanistan again?

I forgot

You are almost as good as Bristoe when it comes to cherry picking facts to fit your narrative, in 2002-3, Afghanistan was a complete victory by any valid measure and we should have left then. Unfortunately, the MIC got in the way and wanted to make money so we stayed and THAT was a waste. Then of course, I think even you can figure out the mess Biden created after Trump had a valid exit strategy. But anyway, something tells me you do better when pictures are involved. Yes I know they were Saudis, but Afghanistan was where they trained.

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Why did Bush The Moron tell our troops ‘No BOOZE!’ and force us to smuggle booze to our troops in Scope mouthwash bottles while the French and Germans had their RATIONS of wine and beer???

Originally Posted by Putin Pufter begining to Understand Genocide

Originally Posted by Bristoe

If Ukraine tries that, Russia will use tactical nukes on them.

And then hell will be unleashed on Moscow.

Originally Posted by ribka

Just wave an American flag infant of low IQ American and you can convince him/her to destroy our country in the name of democracy.

Hard to argue with a purse-swinging old lady that can't put a thought or a sentence together.
And you know I hate it when you post above your quote.
Fookin geezer.

Laffin

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ribka

burns imbibing again

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ribka: See if you can keep Johnny Burns upset today. I will be out travelling most of the day and unable to point out his (bleep).

He probably won't be up and going until noon or later. Thanks

ribka: I'm back. He's up and I'll handle it from here. Thanks

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Bristoe

If Ukraine tries that, Russia will use tactical nukes on them.

And then hell will be unleashed on Moscow.

Boomers love war.

Of course most have onset dementia and don't know what month it is.

Daily report: Russia winning, "Russia Grind"

Originally Posted by jorge

[/quote]I have to give them credit, they kicked our asses that day and we never saw it coming. They were called cowards. I think dedicated true believers is more accurate.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ribka

burns imbibing again

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ribka: See if you can keep Johnny Burns upset today. I will be out travelling most of the day and unable to point out his (bleep).

He probably won't be up and going until noon or later. Thanks

ribka: I'm back. He's up and I'll handle it from here. Thanks

Two peas in a pod. A Russian bot and a Putin worshipper.

Total IQ of 100.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by jorge

I have to give them credit, they kicked our asses that day and we never saw it coming. They were called cowards. I think dedicated true believers is more accurate.[/quote]

This from the person who would defend America if invaded, then, well parts of it but not California or the east coast states,,but maybe some other states.

Looks like cuckraine is windin up for a battle to retake Bahkmut.

Next few days should be interesting.

For now:

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Bristoe

If Ukraine tries that, Russia will use tactical nukes on them.

And then hell will be unleashed on Moscow.

Ha. NATO won't even send good jets to Zelensky now for fear of Moscow

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by jorge

I have to give them credit, they kicked our asses that day and we never saw it coming. They were called cowards. I think dedicated true believers is more accurate.

This from the person who would defend America if invaded, then, well parts of it but not California or the east coast states,,but maybe some other states.

Well.
1. They kicked our asses that day=true
2. We never saw it coming=true
3. They were called cowards=true (but they weren't cowards)
4. I think dedicated believers is more accurate=true ( how do you get more dedicated than that?)

I would defend only part of this country=true[/quote]

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by jorge

I have to give them credit, they kicked our asses that day and we never saw it coming. They were called cowards. I think dedicated true believers is more accurate.

This from the person who would defend America if invaded, then, well parts of it but not California or the east coast states,,but maybe some other states.

Well.
1. They kicked our asses that day=true
2. We never saw it coming=true
3. They were called cowards=true (but they weren't cowards)
4. I think dedicated believers is more accurate=true ( how do you get more dedicated than that?)

I would defend only part of this country=true

[/quote]

No need to explain yourself any further than you already have many times.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Well.
1. They kicked our asses that day=true
2. We never saw it coming=true
3. They were called cowards=true (but they weren't cowards)
4. I think dedicated believers is more accurate=true ( how do you get more dedicated than that?)

I would defend only part of this country=true

Well you are always ready to collaberate with the Orcs.

Originally Posted by Hastings

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Thought this was interesting

Photos: Ukraine soldiers ride out war stress with hippotherapy

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2...s-ride-out-war-stress-with-horse-therapy

More stuff for discussion

Iran’s Khamenei says US wants to keep Ukraine war going

The supreme leader accuses Washington of starting the war, saying it benefits US weapons manufacturers.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/21/irans-khamenei-says-us-wants-to-keep-ukraine-war

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by jorge

I have to give them credit, they kicked our asses that day and we never saw it coming. They were called cowards. I think dedicated true believers is more accurate.

This from the person who would defend America if invaded, then, well parts of it but not California or the east coast states,,but maybe some other states.[/quote]

toot remember you spent 2 years hiding under your bed during Covid like a frightened old frail lady?

You are a true patriot!!!

burns tell us why you chose a combat MOS in the airforce? lol

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Well.
1. They kicked our asses that day=true
2. We never saw it coming=true
3. They were called cowards=true (but they weren't cowards)
4. I think dedicated believers is more accurate=true ( how do you get more dedicated than that?)

I would defend only part of this country=true

Well you are always ready to collaberate with the Orcs.

Originally Posted by Hastings

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Russia isn't interested in ending the war quickly. It's realized that it can cause America to drain itself by keeping the war going on at a low level. Russia does just enough to match what the west throws into Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Russia isn't interested in ending the war quickly. It's realized that it can cause America to drain itself by keeping the war going on at a low level. Russia does just enough to match what the west throws into Ukraine.

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Bristoe

If Ukraine tries that, Russia will use tactical nukes on them.

And then hell will be unleashed on Moscow.

Boomers love war.

Of course most have onset dementia and don't know what month it is.

Its apparent you are a Russian sympathizer.
Go back to Moscow.

Boomers love war.

Of course most have onset dementia and don't know what month it is.[/quote]

Its apparent you are a Russian sympathizer.
Go back to Moscow.[/quot

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Bristoe

If Ukraine tries that, Russia will use tactical nukes on them.

And then hell will be unleashed on Moscow.

Boomers love war.

Of course most have onset dementia and don't know what month it is.

Its apparent you are a Russian sympathizer.
Go back to Moscow.

Nothing wrong with being a Russian sympathizer. Russia is in the right!....However, also sympathize with the tough and brave Ukrainian soldiers as well as Ukrainian citizens who have been tricked by the "Empire of Lies" into sacrificing all they have for the evil, elitist, neocon, warmongers and their defense contractor donors and Soros NWO lackeys that are using the most corrupt country in the world as a proxy.

Or you can be brainwashed by the "Empire of Lies" establishment media without bothering to learn all the facts of the matter going back to the Maidan coup and even further.

Like a liberal plays the race card when losing an argument, Uketards fall back on the Russian sympathizer or "you hate your country" bullshit like a little kid.

MAGA!

Originally Posted by TreeMutt

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent you are a Russian sympathizer.
Go back to Moscow.

Nothing wrong with being a Russian sympathizer. Russia is in the right!....However, also sympathize with the tough and brave Ukrainian soldiers as well as Ukrainian citizens who have been tricked by the "Empire of Lies" into sacrificing all they have for the evil, elitist, neocon, warmongers and their defense contractor donors and Soros NWO lackeys that are using the most corrupt country in the world as a proxy.

Or you can be brainwashed by the "Empire of Lies" establishment media without bothering to learn all the facts of the matter going back to the Maidan coup and even further.

Like a liberal plays the race card when losing an argument, Uketards fall back on the Russian sympathizer or "you hate your country" bullshit like a little kid.

MAGA!

Could not agree more. "Patriotism, the last refuge of a scoundrel"

Originally Posted by ribka

I thought they were trained in US flight schools in Minnesota, Florida, Arizona? That is a particularly OBTUSE half-truth statement.

Why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia and the UAE? Why did Bush, the worst president in our history, secretly fly out the Saudi royal family on 911? : Simple, economics and neither the Saudi or UAE governments had anything to do with it. Bush the worst? That explains a LOT.

How many terrrorist training schools did we find in Afghanistan in 20 years? Why did the US arm these same terrorists in the 1980's? We found quite a few and destroyed them during the first six months we were there, ergo, we should have LEFT then.

FYI most of the terrorist aid and training was and still done in Pakistan which we still give billions of dollars in US aid: DUH.

Why were us soldiers used to protect poppy heroin fields in Afghanistan? Is that to support democracy? Is that to help our drug epidemic in the US? SOURCE

Why were US soldiers directed to not complain about the rampant rape of young slave boys occurring in front of them in Afghanistan?

To protect democracy? lol : SOURCE?

making fake wars is good money

Originally Posted by jorgeI

Originally Posted by ribka

That sounds like winning. Why did we invade Afghanistan again?

I forgot

You are almost as good as Bristoe when it comes to cherry picking facts to fit your narrative, in 2002-3, Afghanistan was a complete victory by any valid measure and we should have left then. Unfortunately, the MIC got in the way and wanted to make money so we stayed and THAT was a waste. Then of course, I think even you can figure out the mess Biden created after Trump had a valid exit strategy. But anyway, something tells me you do better when pictures are involved. Yes I know they were Saudis, but Afghanistan was where they trained.

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Exactly..one reason I was "spellbound" in learning from both Ritter and MacGregor the background history of this event, and the fact that it could have easly been prevented.
Ofcourse one has to get their head out of their forth-point-of-contact, and realize propaganda, lies, for the kids here, does not just flow from the "East".

You can hear it every morning, if you turn the TV on.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by TreeMutt

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent you are a Russian sympathizer.
Go back to Moscow.

Nothing wrong with being a Russian sympathizer. Russia is in the right!....However, also sympathize with the tough and brave Ukrainian soldiers as well as Ukrainian citizens who have been tricked by the "Empire of Lies" into sacrificing all they have for the evil, elitist, neocon, warmongers and their defense contractor donors and Soros NWO lackeys that are using the most corrupt country in the world as a proxy.

Or you can be brainwashed by the "Empire of Lies" establishment media without bothering to learn all the facts of the matter going back to the Maidan coup and even further.

Like a liberal plays the race card when losing an argument, Uketards fall back on the Russian sympathizer or "you hate your country" bullshit like a little kid.

MAGA!

Could not agree more. "Patriotism, the last refuge of a scoundrel"

Have no fear of yourself ever being accused of being Patriotic.

That’s been taken off of the table quite a while back.

Originally Posted by CGPAUL

Exactly..one reason I was "spellbound" in learning from both Ritter and MacGregor the background history of this event, and the fact that it could have easly been prevented.
Ofcourse one has to get their head out of their forth-point-of-contact, and realize propaganda, lies, for the kids here, does not just flow from the "East".

You can hear it every morning, if you turn the TV on.

Shooting out of the back of the wagon is always so “educational “.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Originally Posted by Hastings

Could not agree more. "Patriotism, the last refuge of a scoundrel"

Have no fear of yourself ever being accused of being Patriotic.

That’s been taken off of the table quite a while back.

If one is an Orc lover are they just a patriot for Orc Land?

Originally Posted by Hastings

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Old Bradlys wake from slumber for the coming Orc Hunt.

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It's seems to be shaping up that Ukraine is preparing another big push in Bakhmut soon. It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

Russian forces have already moved northwest of Bakhmut and the word is there's only one road into Bakhmut.

My guess is, Russia will use this opportunity to put a major smackdown on what's left of the Ukranian military

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

WE being the Global Enforcement Arm? WE should not provide that service.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

WE being the Global Enforcement Arm? WE should not provide that service.

Whether WE like it or not, Isolationism died along time ago.

Point, counterpoint and proxy wars are the reality.

Wish in one hand and scchitt in the other,,,,,

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

WE being the Global Enforcement Arm? WE should not provide that service.

We agreed to protect Ukraine in 1994 when we brokered a deal to remove nuclear arms, signed by the UK, the US, Ukraine and Russia. Maybe called the Budapest Memorandum

MR 2 dogs,

Global enforcement arm ....a service????

How about another idiotic statement or 2. !!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

WE being the Global Enforcement Arm? WE should not provide that service.

We being the West.

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Whether WE like it or not, Isolationism died along time ago.

Point, counterpoint and proxy wars are the reality.

Wish in one hand and scchitt in the other,,,,,

The original EU members did not get the message....clearly

Please quote for Ol Toot's benefit

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Whether WE like it or not, Isolationism died along time ago.

The people in charge better revive it. Military enlistments are way down and wokism has destroyed what there is of America's military.

Nato's industrial base has been severely damaged by the lack of energy that it got from Russia before the neocons wrecked the Nordstream pipeline and Western Europe has no enthusiasm for going to war with Russia.

Russia and China have set aside their differences in order to counter the hegemonic desires of the U.S.A. (which is too weak to implement them, anyway)

Saudi Arabia, which has been aligned with the U.S.A., is stepping back and forming a cooperative with Iran and Syria. It's very likely that the rest of the Middle East will go along.

America is 31 trillion dollars in debt and banks are collapsing.

Basically, the west is in a severe decline while the global south is forming a coalition which will establish a new world order. China is the largest manufacturer on the planet and is constructing a rail system to deliver it's goods across Russia and Europe.

If an announcement of a new alliance between Iran and Israel would be a ten on the international Richter scale, then an alliance between Saudi and Iran is about a 9.5. They hate each other that much. They’ve been fighting an active proxy war in Yemen for a decade.

The fact that they are now aligned and Syria too, show you how drastically things are shifting. The missteps are huge. There is the last thirty years of us going around and invading who we want, pissing people off needlessly and so on and so forth. There is this insane green energy mess that is 180 degrees opposed to what is good for a country like Saudi that relies on oil revenue. There is the massive spending and devaluation of our dollar, the world reserve currency, that causes economic hardship in all of these countries. There is the loss of any moral superiority we had with our illegal invasions, rampant political and economic corruption, blatantly fraudulent elections, and prosecution of political enemies. And then there is our weakness.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Whether WE like it or not, Isolationism died along time ago.

The people in charge better revive it. Military enlistments are way down and wokism has destroyed what there is of America's military.

Nato's industrial base has been severely damaged by the lack of energy that it got from Russia before the neocons wrecked the Nordstream pipeline and Western Europe has no enthusiasm for going to war with Russia.

Russia and China have set aside their differences in order to counter the hegemonic desires of the U.S.A. (which is too weak to implement them, anyway)

Saudi Arabia, which has been aligned with the U.S.A., is stepping back and forming a cooperative with Iran and Syria. It's very likely that the rest of the Middle East will go along.

America is 31 trillion dollars in debt and banks are collapsing.

Basically, the west is in a severe decline while the global south is forming a coalition which will establish a new world order. China is the largest manufacturer on the planet and is constructing a rail system to deliver it's goods across Russia and Europe.

This is hilarious. Russia and China are desperate, banks collapsing, chicken little.

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

WE being the Global Enforcement Arm? WE should not provide that service.

We agreed to protect Ukraine in 1994 when we brokered a deal to remove nuclear arms, signed by the UK, the US, Ukraine and Russia. Maybe called the Budapest Memorandum

Ok. Minsk2 was not implemented due to the US removing and then installing <2014> a government in Ukraine that would follow US orders. Seems that these agreements are bound to be broken.

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Houston_2

Whether WE like it or not, Isolationism died along time ago.

The people in charge better revive it. Military enlistments are way down and wokism has destroyed what there is of America's military.

Nato's industrial base has been severely damaged by the lack of energy that it got from Russia before the neocons wrecked the Nordstream pipeline and Western Europe has no enthusiasm for going to war with Russia.

Russia and China have set aside their differences in order to counter the hegemonic desires of the U.S.A. (which is too weak to implement them, anyway)

Saudi Arabia, which has been aligned with the U.S.A., is stepping back and forming a cooperative with Iran and Syria. It's very likely that the rest of the Middle East will go along.

America is 31 trillion dollars in debt and banks are collapsing.

Basically, the west is in a severe decline while the global south is forming a coalition which will establish a new world order. China is the largest manufacturer on the planet and is constructing a rail system to deliver it's goods across Russia and Europe.

This is hilarious. Russia and China are desperate, banks collapsing, chicken little.

Tell me what I said that is incorrect.

Originally Posted by cisco1

MR 2 dogs,

Global enforcement arm ....a service????

How about another idiotic statement or 2. !!!!!!!!

Ok genius, what would you label it as?

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The people in charge better revive it. Military enlistments are way down and wokism has destroyed what there is of America's military.

Nato's industrial base has been severely damaged by the lack of energy that it got from Russia before the neocons wrecked the Nordstream pipeline and Western Europe has no enthusiasm for going to war with Russia.

Russia and China have set aside their differences in order to counter the hegemonic desires of the U.S.A. (which is too weak to implement them, anyway)

Saudi Arabia, which has been aligned with the U.S.A., is stepping back and forming a cooperative with Iran and Syria. It's very likely that the rest of the Middle East will go along.

America is 31 trillion dollars in debt and banks are collapsing.

Basically, the west is in a severe decline while the global south is forming a coalition which will establish a new world order. China is the largest manufacturer on the planet and is constructing a rail system to deliver it's goods across Russia and Europe.

This is hilarious. Russia and China are desperate, banks collapsing, chicken little.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Tell me what I said that is incorrect.

Just this stuff in the quote.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The people in charge better revive it. Military enlistments are way down and wokism has destroyed what there is of America's military.

Nato's industrial base has been severely damaged by the lack of energy that it got from Russia before the neocons wrecked the Nordstream pipeline and Western Europe has no enthusiasm for going to war with Russia.

Russia and China have set aside their differences in order to counter the hegemonic desires of the U.S.A. (which is too weak to implement them, anyway)

Saudi Arabia, which has been aligned with the U.S.A., is stepping back and forming a cooperative with Iran and Syria. It's very likely that the rest of the Middle East will go along.

Basically, the west is in a severe decline while the global south is forming a coalition which will establish a new world order. China is the largest manufacturer on the planet and is constructing a rail system to deliver it's goods across Russia and Europe.

Merkel let the cat out of the bag....the 2014 Minsk Agreement was negotiated in bad faith.

It was simply a ploy to allow Ukraine time to build up their military.

Spoken like a true war monger and neocon...

Burns, you refuse to deal with the realities of the situation. I'm not sure why. But even the mainstream media is more truthful than you.

You really need to get a grip.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's seems to be shaping up that Ukraine is preparing another big push in Bakhmut soon. It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

Russian forces have already moved northwest of Bakhmut and the word is there's only one road into Bakhmut.

My guess is, Russia will use this opportunity to put a major smackdown on what's left of the Ukranian military

Yes, they're bringing in 70 year old tanks to put a major smackdown on the ukes.......

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's seems to be shaping up that Ukraine is preparing another big push in Bakhmut soon. It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

Russian forces have already moved northwest of Bakhmut and the word is there's only one road into Bakhmut.

My guess is, Russia will use this opportunity to put a major smackdown on what's left of the Ukranian military

Yes, they're bringing in 70 year old tanks to put a major smackdown on the ukes.......

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

I saw some information on that which has proven to be false. What is your source?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's seems to be shaping up that Ukraine is preparing another big push in Bakhmut soon. It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

Russian forces have already moved northwest of Bakhmut and the word is there's only one road into Bakhmut.

My guess is, Russia will use this opportunity to put a major smackdown on what's left of the Ukranian military

Yes, they're bringing in 70 year old tanks to put a major smackdown on the ukes.......

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

It might work, If they have ammo to feed them.
Grins

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Burns, you refuse to deal with the realities of the situation. I'm not sure why. But even the mainstream media is more truthful than you.

You really need to get a grip.

I have been consistanty right and you have been consistanty wrong on all things about the Ukraine invasion.

It's a great example of how confirmation bias drives you to double down with Anti American posts that always prove wrong.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

I wonder what the next one will be.

The end of the American Empire and Poland back under the thumb of Russia?

Somebody once said that history doesn't repeat. But it rhymes.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's seems to be shaping up that Ukraine is preparing another big push in Bakhmut soon. It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

Russian forces have already moved northwest of Bakhmut and the word is there's only one road into Bakhmut.

My guess is, Russia will use this opportunity to put a major smackdown on what's left of the Ukranian military

Yes, they're bringing in 70 year old tanks to put a major smackdown on the ukes.......

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

This is the kind of dumschit thinking on display around here.

Guess what, against infantry a 70 year old T-55 is as effective now as it was the day it left the factory. And it’s no more vulnerable to anti-tank missiles than a new T-90m. So if you’re going to use a tank fighting entrenched infantry and it is likely to eventually be lost to an anti-tank missile, it’s better if it is a seventy year old T-55 than a new T-90m.

It’s an example of Russian ingenuity that we would never do because some defense contractor would be afraid it might cause us to order one less brand new fee whiz weapons system. Russia has tens of thousands of Cold War era tanks. May as well put some of them to use where you can. I would be surprised if some of them aren’t drones either. You could convert them to drones nowadays for what amounts to radio shack parts and use them to soak up anti-tank missiles. Leave the crew and the main gun ammo out and it might take half a dozen missiles to make one stop moving.

Keeping 70 year old tanks running will require Russian ingenuity.

Originally Posted by johnn

Keeping 70 year old tanks running will require Russian ingenuity.

Much easier than keeping modern ones going.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

This is the kind of dumschit thinking on display around here.

Guess what, against infantry a 70 year old T-55 is as effective now as it was the day it left the factory. And it’s no more vulnerable to anti-tank missiles than a new T-90m. So if you’re going to use a tank fighting entrenched infantry and it is likely to eventually be lost to an anti-tank missile, it’s better if it is a seventy year old T-55 than a new T-90m.

LOL.

T-55 is vulnerable to a whole host of old ATMs that can't put a scratch on a modern tank.

Cheap and plentiful RPG-7s will kill it with a single shot.

The Putin Pufters are taking massive amount of copium.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's seems to be shaping up that Ukraine is preparing another big push in Bakhmut soon. It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

Russian forces have already moved northwest of Bakhmut and the word is there's only one road into Bakhmut.

My guess is, Russia will use this opportunity to put a major smackdown on what's left of the Ukranian military

Yes, they're bringing in 70 year old tanks to put a major smackdown on the ukes.......

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

This is the kind of dumschit thinking on display around here.

Guess what, against infantry a 70 year old T-55 is as effective now as it was the day it left the factory. And it’s no more vulnerable to anti-tank missiles than a new T-90m. So if you’re going to use a tank fighting entrenched infantry and it is likely to eventually be lost to an anti-tank missile, it’s better if it is a seventy year old T-55 than a new T-90m.

It’s an example of Russian ingenuity that we would never do because some defense contractor would be afraid it might cause us to order one less brand new fee whiz weapons system. Russia has tens of thousands of Cold War era tanks. May as well put some of them to use where you can. I would be surprised if some of them aren’t drones either. You could convert them to drones nowadays for what amounts to radio shack parts and use them to soak up anti-tank missiles. Leave the crew and the main gun ammo out and it might take half a dozen missiles to make one stop moving.

The reports about Russia sending WW2 era tanks to Ukraine are false. Somebody put some footage of T-34 tanks being transported by rail in the internet and said that they were headed to Ukraine. It's some old footage of T-34s being transported to Russia to be used in various monuments and museums.

The ace up the sleeve in the armor game is artillery.
Does Russia have it in place?

Here's the real situation.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Burns, you refuse to deal with the realities of the situation. I'm not sure why. But even the mainstream media is more truthful than you.

You really need to get a grip.

I have been consistanty right and you have been consistanty wrong on all things about the Ukraine invasion.

It's a great example of how confirmation bias drives you to double down with Anti American posts that always prove wrong.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

I wonder what the next one will be.

The end of the American Empire and Poland back under the thumb of Russia?

Somebody once said that history doesn't repeat. But it rhymes.

You've not predicted sheit....so yeah you've technically NOT BEEN WRONG.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's seems to be shaping up that Ukraine is preparing another big push in Bakhmut soon. It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

Russian forces have already moved northwest of Bakhmut and the word is there's only one road into Bakhmut.

My guess is, Russia will use this opportunity to put a major smackdown on what's left of the Ukranian military

Yes, they're bringing in 70 year old tanks to put a major smackdown on the ukes.......

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

This is the kind of dumschit thinking on display around here.

Guess what, against infantry a 70 year old T-55 is as effective now as it was the day it left the factory. And it’s no more vulnerable to anti-tank missiles than a new T-90m. So if you’re going to use a tank fighting entrenched infantry and it is likely to eventually be lost to an anti-tank missile, it’s better if it is a seventy year old T-55 than a new T-90m.

It’s an example of Russian ingenuity that we would never do because some defense contractor would be afraid it might cause us to order one less brand new fee whiz weapons system. Russia has tens of thousands of Cold War era tanks. May as well put some of them to use where you can. I would be surprised if some of them aren’t drones either. You could convert them to drones nowadays for what amounts to radio shack parts and use them to soak up anti-tank missiles. Leave the crew and the main gun ammo out and it might take half a dozen missiles to make one stop moving.

The reports about Russia sending WW2 era tanks to Ukraine are false. Somebody put some footage of T-34 tanks being transported by rail in the internet and said that they were headed to Ukraine. It's some old footage of T-34s being transported to Russia to be used in various monuments and museums.

Um, was talking about the 62s seen recently on rails from Eastern Russia. If they were sending 34s they'd have to get them from the museum.

But, yes, sending old, obsolete tanks to die is probably great strategy and tactics if you're Russia......

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by CGPAUL

Exactly..one reason I was "spellbound" in learning from both Ritter and MacGregor the background history of this event, and the fact that it could have easly been prevented.
Ofcourse one has to get their head out of their forth-point-of-contact, and realize propaganda, lies, for the kids here, does not just flow from the "East".

You can hear it every morning, if you turn the TV on.

You realize those two fuqutards have been wrong about literally everything ever since they both said Kiev had fallen on day three, right?

Originally Posted by goalie

Um, was talking about the 62s seen recently on rails from Eastern Russia.

You can't show a source for that, can you?

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It's seems to be shaping up that Ukraine is preparing another big push in Bakhmut soon. It will be interesting to see what the outcome will be.

Russian forces have already moved northwest of Bakhmut and the word is there's only one road into Bakhmut.

My guess is, Russia will use this opportunity to put a major smackdown on what's left of the Ukranian military

Yes, they're bringing in 70 year old tanks to put a major smackdown on the ukes.......

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

This is the kind of dumschit thinking on display around here.

Guess what, against infantry a 70 year old T-55 is as effective now as it was the day it left the factory. And it’s no more vulnerable to anti-tank missiles than a new T-90m. So if you’re going to use a tank fighting entrenched infantry and it is likely to eventually be lost to an anti-tank missile, it’s better if it is a seventy year old T-55 than a new T-90m.

It’s an example of Russian ingenuity that we would never do because some defense contractor would be afraid it might cause us to order one less brand new fee whiz weapons system. Russia has tens of thousands of Cold War era tanks. May as well put some of them to use where you can. I would be surprised if some of them aren’t drones either. You could convert them to drones nowadays for what amounts to radio shack parts and use them to soak up anti-tank missiles. Leave the crew and the main gun ammo out and it might take half a dozen missiles to make one stop moving.

The reports about Russia sending WW2 era tanks to Ukraine are false. Somebody put some footage of T-34 tanks being transported by rail in the internet and said that they were headed to Ukraine. It's some old footage of T-34s being transported to Russia to be used in various monuments and museums.

Um, was talking about the 62s seen recently on rails from Eastern Russia. If they were sending 34s they'd have to get them from the museum.

But, yes, sending old, obsolete tanks to die is probably great strategy and tactics if you're Russia......

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Here is a read...

article on Russian tanks

Check out the comments for more info...

Ymmv

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Um, was talking about the 62s seen recently on rails from Eastern Russia.

You can't show a source for that, can you?

Well, Russia published a "62s are as good as modern tanks" propaganda piece, so.....

64's

The largest tank manufacturing plant in the world are making T-90s.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/new-t90m-batchhow-many-uzv-deliver

The Russian Army received a new batch of T-90M ‘Breakthrough’ tanks from the Uralvagonzavod factory on January 12, where assembly lines have reportedly been working around the clock to accelerate production amid the ongoing war effort in Ukraine. "Uralvagonzavod (part of UVZ Group) has successfully fulfilled its next contract for the delivery of T-90M Proryv tanks. The armour batch has already been sent to the Defence Ministry of Russia," UVZ announced. Russian Deputy Prime Minister and Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov elaborated that the vehicles integrated a new turret, next generation explosive reactive armour, a new main gun, superior communications systems and a more powerful engine, adding that “they are outfitted with advanced equipment that helps the tank crew effectively strike targets. UVZ has fulfilled the defence procurement plan on time.” The last T-90M batch was delivered to the Russian Army five months prior in August, with UVZ during the Soviet era having been capable of producing over 1000 similarly sized vehicles per year.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by CGPAUL

Exactly..one reason I was "spellbound" in learning from both Ritter and MacGregor the background history of this event, and the fact that it could have easly been prevented.
Ofcourse one has to get their head out of their forth-point-of-contact, and realize propaganda, lies, for the kids here, does not just flow from the "East".

You can hear it every morning, if you turn the TV on.

You realize those two fuqutards have been wrong about literally everything ever since they both said Kiev had fallen on day three, right?

Fuqutards stick together, as shown by our resident fuqutards that adore Ritter and MacGregor.
R&M are blabbering on Youtube like Walmart greeters to supplement their gov't pensions.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The largest tank manufacturing plant in the world are making T-90s.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/new-t90m-batchhow-many-uzv-deliver

The Russian Army received a new batch of T-90M ‘Breakthrough’ tanks from the Uralvagonzavod factory on January 12, where assembly lines have reportedly been working around the clock to accelerate production amid the ongoing war effort in Ukraine. "Uralvagonzavod (part of UVZ Group) has successfully fulfilled its next contract for the delivery of T-90M Proryv tanks. The armour batch has already been sent to the Defence Ministry of Russia," UVZ announced. Russian Deputy Prime Minister and Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov elaborated that the vehicles integrated a new turret, next generation explosive reactive armour, a new main gun, superior communications systems and a more powerful engine, adding that “they are outfitted with advanced equipment that helps the tank crew effectively strike targets. UVZ has fulfilled the defence procurement plan on time.” The last T-90M batch was delivered to the Russian Army five months prior in August, with UVZ during the Soviet era having been capable of producing over 1000 similarly sized vehicles per year.

The Ukes have shown that they can pop the tops off of them faster than the Russians can replace them.
They can't get the T-14 working right so they're monkeying with the T-90's
Same movie.

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The largest tank manufacturing plant in the world are making T-90s.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/new-t90m-batchhow-many-uzv-deliver

The Russian Army received a new batch of T-90M ‘Breakthrough’ tanks from the Uralvagonzavod factory on January 12, where assembly lines have reportedly been working around the clock to accelerate production amid the ongoing war effort in Ukraine. "Uralvagonzavod (part of UVZ Group) has successfully fulfilled its next contract for the delivery of T-90M Proryv tanks. The armour batch has already been sent to the Defence Ministry of Russia," UVZ announced. Russian Deputy Prime Minister and Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov elaborated that the vehicles integrated a new turret, next generation explosive reactive armour, a new main gun, superior communications systems and a more powerful engine, adding that “they are outfitted with advanced equipment that helps the tank crew effectively strike targets. UVZ has fulfilled the defence procurement plan on time.” The last T-90M batch was delivered to the Russian Army five months prior in August, with UVZ during the Soviet era having been capable of producing over 1000 similarly sized vehicles per year.

The Ukes have shown that they can pop the tops off of them faster than the Russians can replace them.
They can't get the T-14 working right so they're monkeying with the T-90's
Same movie.

So, Ukraine wins any day now[and we quit sending monies over]?

Originally Posted by Envious Bitter Old Man Raeford

You've not predicted sheit....so yeah you've technically NOT BEEN WRONG.

Originally Posted by rte

This is the opinion of a military analyst and former Army officer who claims Putin has already won in Ukraine.

Originally Posted by ...The WIZARD known as JohnBurns from 1 year ago

LOL.

That video is a week old and has not aged well at all.

Macgregor's predictions are for schitt.

Originally Posted by Nyquil Fueled Burns

Originally Posted by Raeford

You've not predicted sheit....so yeah you've technically NOT BEEN WRONG.

Originally Posted by rte

This is the opinion of a military analyst and former Army officer who claims Putin has already won in Ukraine.

Originally Posted by ...The WIZARD known as JohnBurns from 1 year ago

LOL.

That video is a week old and has not aged well at all.

Macgregor's predictions are for schitt.

As stated

Lot's of people on here lack the ability to wade through all of the propaganda that's being put out by the U.S. mainstream media. And of course, there's still a lot of "stuck in the Cold War" cheerleading mentality that some people can't shake.

I'll admit that it's a big job. You really have to dig to find out *any*thing about the Ukraine conflict. The situation is so dangerous that no journalists want to get close enough to the real action to report on it.

If you read the U.S. mainstream propaganda however, you would think that it's got a whole string of journalists right up front watching it all.

The common sense facts are, Ukraine's military ain't a pimple on the ass of what Russia can put up. It's totally dependent of equipment provided by the west. Another common sense perspective is, the Ukraine military, even when it was at full strength, couldn't utilize western heavy arms to their full potential,...and the regular Ukrainian military has been decimated by a year of war against an opponent that is huge in comparison.

The situation now is, the U.S. has gotten itself bogged down in a proxy conflict that it wasn't prepared to fight,..and it will allow Ukraine to be flattened before it admits that it was a bad idea.

The NATO countries are contributing just enough assistance to keep the U.S. off their backs, but nobody in Western Europe wants to see the conflict escalate further. (with the possible exception of Poland)

So that's where it stands. And, as mentioned previously, Ukraine is preparing to send another group of poorly trained conscripts into Bakhmut to get them ran through the meat grinder, too.

Two outcomes are possible, at this point. Either Ukraine gets crushed, or the U.S. coerces NATO to put boots on the ground in Ukraine,...and cranks up body bag production.

In other words, accept that Ukraine is lost, or accept WW3.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Lot's of people on here lack the ability to wade through all of the propaganda that's being put out by the U.S. mainstream media. And of course, there's still a lot of "stuck in the Cold War" cheerleading mentality that some people can't shake.

I'll admit that it's a big job. You really have to dig to find out *any*thing about the Ukraine conflict. The situation is so dangerous that no journalists want to get close enough to the real action to report on it.

If you read the U.S. mainstream propaganda however, you would think that it's got a whole string of journalists right up front watching it all.

The common sense facts are, Ukraine's military ain't a pimple on the ass of what Russia can put up. It's totally dependent of equipment provided by the west. Another common sense perspective is, the Ukraine military, even when it was at full strength, couldn't utilize western heavy arms to their full potential,...and the regular Ukrainian military has been decimated by a year of war against an opponent that is huge in comparison.

The situation now is, the U.S. has gotten itself bogged down in a proxy conflict that it wasn't prepared to fight,..and it will allow Ukraine to be flattened before it admits that it was a bad idea.

The NATO countries are contributing just enough assistance to keep the U.S. off their backs, but nobody in Western Europe wants to see the conflict escalate further. (with the possible exception of Poland)

So that's where it stands. And, as mentioned previously, Ukraine is preparing to send another group of poorly trained conscripts into Bakhmut to get them ran through the meat grinder, too.

Two outcomes are possible, at this point. Either Ukraine gets crushed, or the U.S. coerces NATO to put boots on the ground in Ukraine,...and cranks up body bag production.

In other words, accept that Ukraine is lost, or accept WW3.

This article on Putin, Xi, and what happened after the summit I'd interesting...

https://www.businessinsider.com/xi-snubs-putin-amid-summit-with-central-asia-power-play-2023-3

Russian troops on the move again.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1638959196455464971

The cowards always push for endless wars

"All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
- George Orwell

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by CGPAUL

Exactly..one reason I was "spellbound" in learning from both Ritter and MacGregor the background history of this event, and the fact that it could have easly been prevented.
Ofcourse one has to get their head out of their forth-point-of-contact, and realize propaganda, lies, for the kids here, does not just flow from the "East".

You can hear it every morning, if you turn the TV on.

You realize those two fuqutards have been wrong about literally everything ever since they both said Kiev had fallen on day three, right?

Fuqutards stick together, as shown by our resident fuqutards that adore Ritter and MacGregor.
R&M are blabbering on Youtube like Walmart greeters to supplement their gov't pensions.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

This article on Putin, Xi, and what happened after the summit I'd interesting...

https://www.businessinsider.com/xi-snubs-putin-amid-summit-with-central-asia-power-play-2023-3

I wondered who illiterate dummies were who read business insider

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Business insider said all of the BLM and Antifa protests were peaceful lol. Really, what dummies use this as a news source?

https://www.businessinsider.com/geo...riots-destruction-righteous-cause-2020-6

93% of Black Lives Matter Protests Have Been Peaceful, New Report Finds

Originally Posted by Jcubed

This article on Putin, Xi, and what happened after the summit I'd interesting...

https://www.businessinsider.com/xi-snubs-putin-amid-summit-with-central-asia-power-play-2023-3

More western media propaganda.

Here's a much better synopsis:

https://www.unz.com/pescobar/in-moscow-xi-and-putin-bury-pax-americana/

excerpt:

Moscow, finally welcoming the first sunny days of Spring, provided this week a larger-than-life illustration of “weeks where decades happen” compared to “decades where nothing happens.”

The two presidents bid farewell in a poignant manner.

Xi: “Now, there are changes that haven’t happened in 100 years. When we are together, we drive these changes.”

Putin: “I agree.”

Xi: “Take care, dear friend.”

Putin: “Have a safe trip.”

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

This article on Putin, Xi, and what happened after the summit I'd interesting...

https://www.businessinsider.com/xi-snubs-putin-amid-summit-with-central-asia-power-play-2023-3

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Funny sentence you wrote, considering you were attempting to call me illiterate...carry on.

Wow what idiots believe that the Covid vaccine is safe and should be given to babies?

Dumb and Dumber

https://www.businessinsider.com/fda-panel-covid-19-vaccines-for-babies-kids-safe-effective-2022-6

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

This article on Putin, Xi, and what happened after the summit I'd interesting...

https://www.businessinsider.com/xi-snubs-putin-amid-summit-with-central-asia-power-play-2023-3

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Funny sentence you wrote, considering you were attempting to call me illiterate...carry on.

And more proven lies from business insider. Serious what morons use this as a news source?

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-russia-timeline-election-meddling-2017-11

Business insider says Biden is Fit and vigorous and a strong healthy leader. lmao

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe...colonoscopy-fit-office-wh-doctor-2021-11

Originally Posted by ribka

Wow what idiots believe that the Covid vaccine is safe and should be given to babies?

Dumb and Dumber

https://www.businessinsider.com/fda-panel-covid-19-vaccines-for-babies-kids-safe-effective-2022-6

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

This article on Putin, Xi, and what happened after the summit I'd interesting...

https://www.businessinsider.com/xi-snubs-putin-amid-summit-with-central-asia-power-play-2023-3

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Funny sentence you wrote, considering you were attempting to call me illiterate...carry on.

Do you only peruse one news source? Can you not read various sources and "connect the dots?"

I merely said it was interesting...esp the fact that Xi holds the first ever China-central Asia summit immediately after meeting with Putin. That is Russias sphere.

Ymmv

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Lot's of people on here lack the ability to wade through all of the propaganda that's being put out by the U.S. mainstream media.

Same can be said for the Russian propaganda. And there is plenty of that here.

Originally Posted by AKwolverine

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Lot's of people on here lack the ability to wade through all of the propaganda that's being put out by the U.S. mainstream media.

Same can be said for the Russian propaganda. And there is plenty of that here.

Give me an example of Russian propaganda on here.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Lot's of people on here lack the ability to wade through all of the propaganda that's being put out by the U.S. mainstream media. And of course, there's still a lot of "stuck in the Cold War" cheerleading mentality that some people can't shake.

I'll admit that it's a big job. You really have to dig to find out *any*thing about the Ukraine conflict. The situation is so dangerous that no journalists want to get close enough to the real action to report on it.

If you read the U.S. mainstream propaganda however, you would think that it's got a whole string of journalists right up front watching it all.

The common sense facts are, Ukraine's military ain't a pimple on the ass of what Russia can put up. It's totally dependent of equipment provided by the west. Another common sense perspective is, the Ukraine military, even when it was at full strength, couldn't utilize western heavy arms to their full potential,...and the regular Ukrainian military has been decimated by a year of war against an opponent that is huge in comparison.

The situation now is, the U.S. has gotten itself bogged down in a proxy conflict that it wasn't prepared to fight,..and it will allow Ukraine to be flattened before it admits that it was a bad idea.

The NATO countries are contributing just enough assistance to keep the U.S. off their backs, but nobody in Western Europe wants to see the conflict escalate further. (with the possible exception of Poland)

So that's where it stands. And, as mentioned previously, Ukraine is preparing to send another group of poorly trained conscripts into Bakhmut to get them ran through the meat grinder, too.

Two outcomes are possible, at this point. Either Ukraine gets crushed, or the U.S. coerces NATO to put boots on the ground in Ukraine,...and cranks up body bag production.

In other words, accept that Ukraine is lost, or accept WW3.

Says the guy who literally quotes Russian propaganda verbatim.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by AKwolverine

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Lot's of people on here lack the ability to wade through all of the propaganda that's being put out by the U.S. mainstream media.

Same can be said for the Russian propaganda. And there is plenty of that here.

Give me an example of Russian propaganda on here.

Any video posted by Jag on Ukraine or Russia...

Lol

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by AKwolverine

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Lot's of people on here lack the ability to wade through all of the propaganda that's being put out by the U.S. mainstream media.

Same can be said for the Russian propaganda. And there is plenty of that here.

Give me an example of Russian propaganda on here.

Macgregor and Ritter are both literally repeating Russian propaganda verbatim, and they're quoted daily here.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Go Biden!

I mean Zalensky lol

Same [bleep].

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by AKwolverine

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Lot's of people on here lack the ability to wade through all of the propaganda that's being put out by the U.S. mainstream media.

Same can be said for the Russian propaganda. And there is plenty of that here.

Give me an example of Russian propaganda on here.

Macgregor and Ritter are both literally repeating Russian propaganda verbatim, and they're quoted daily here.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Give me a specific example and then show what you have have to discredit it.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by AKwolverine

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Lot's of people on here lack the ability to wade through all of the propaganda that's being put out by the U.S. mainstream media.

Same can be said for the Russian propaganda. And there is plenty of that here.

Give me an example of Russian propaganda on here.

Any video posted by Jag on Ukraine or Russia...

Lol

Bristoe loves to post lying Putin Pufter Macgregor Orc propaganda videos.

Even when shown how wrong Macgregor has been he still finds comfort watching a proven liar feed his child like bias.

Liar Macgregor from a year ago.

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Go Biden!

I mean Zalensky lol

Same [bleep].

The inability to realize over can support Ukraine fighting against the raping, pillaging and child stealing orcs invading their country without liking the leader is rather sad.

I guess since I hate Biden and wish him the worst that I also must hate America?

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Go Biden!

I mean Zalensky lol

Same [bleep].

The inability to realize over can support Ukraine fighting against the raping, pillaging and child stealing orcs invading their country without liking the leader is rather sad.

I guess since I hate Biden and wish him the worst that I also must hate America?

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

So you got nothing except more ignorant bullshit. Just what I figured.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Go Biden!

I mean Zalensky lol

Same [bleep].

The inability to realize over can support Ukraine fighting against the raping, pillaging and child stealing orcs invading their country without liking the leader is rather sad.

I guess since I hate Biden and wish him the worst that I also must hate America?

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

The lady doth protest too much.

Supporting the ukraine with my tax money is rather less admirable than donating your own funds. When you use fantasy critters to describe the other guys like the MSM and Biden lovers do, you're painting you're own portrait.

You "hate Biden" but are balls deep in "supporting" his criminal enterprise in the ukraine is kinda hard to reconcile at this point if you're willing to be intellectually honest.

It's not rocket science, and I don't need to post an sf-50 to prove it.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Go Biden!

I mean Zalensky lol

Same [bleep].

The inability to realize over can support Ukraine fighting against the raping, pillaging and child stealing orcs invading their country without liking the leader is rather sad.

I guess since I hate Biden and wish him the worst that I also must hate America?

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

How many extra $$$'s did you send with your 2022 taxes to support this?
I feel confident that Burns sent 5-6 figures[minimum].

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by jorge

I have to give them credit, they kicked our asses that day and we never saw it coming. They were called cowards. I think dedicated true believers is more accurate.[/quote]
We never saw it coming because W and his people were ignored the warning signs.

Originally Posted by Raeford

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Go Biden!

I mean Zalensky lol

Same [bleep].

The inability to realize over can support Ukraine fighting against the raping, pillaging and child stealing orcs invading their country without liking the leader is rather sad.

I guess since I hate Biden and wish him the worst that I also must hate America?

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

How many extra $$$'s did you send with your 2022 taxes to support this?
I feel confident that Burns sent 5-6 figures[minimum].

What's the status of our stockpile of arms and ammo for our military right now? I've read it's rather scarily low. But Goalie, Burns, et al seem cool with that. I've not read any pushback. It's pull the condom off and raw dog that bitch. And the US taxpayers are getting raped on the front end, and when/if things really go hot we will have compromised our capabilities, which to follow the analogy means the gay bastard in Kiev gave us AIDS and we'd better start praying to whoever healed Magic Johnson to save our asses.

Originally Posted by goalie

Just another MN liberal lol.

Distro TV Euro news is reporting Bakhmut is holding, and the orcs are pondering moving elsewhere.

If we're using fantasy books/movies to label forces, I'm going to have to assume the Ukes are Hobbits. And Biden is Gandalf.

Burns is dumbledorf, but that's a gay wizard from a different franchise so it wouldn't really fit.

Originally Posted by Angus1895

Distro TV Euro news is reporting Bakhmut is holding, and the orcs are pondering moving elsewhere.

Russia has already moved on, for the most part. I would strongly suspect that the poorly trained conscripts that have been sent into the Bakhmut meat grinder are happy to keep as low of a profile as possible. To do anything else is to ask for more artillery dropping on their heads.

My intellectual failing no doubt for simply believing Putin and Russia know exactly what they are doing in spite of US and NATO stupidly provoking things farther than they can bluff. They will adapt. No idea of any reliable day to day sources. So if there are any without cartoons I'd be grateful. It's a big mistake to underestimate a determined foe pushed back to a wall with his entire future at stake. Cooler heads better sit the money changers down for some serious debriefing. Ukraine won't be the only burnt toast.

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by goalie

Just another MN liberal lol.

If not sucking Russia and China's cock make you a liberal......

But, hey, if that's all you got, fire away. I personally hate leftists, and despite what commie infiltrators have done to it institutions her in the US. I couldn't give a [bleep] what someone supporting Russia and China thinks of me. 😉

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by goalie

Just another MN liberal lol.

If not sucking Russia and China's cock make you a liberal......

But, hey, if that's all you got, fire away. I personally hate leftists, and despite what commie infiltrators have done to it institutions her in the US. I couldn't give a [bleep] what someone supporting Russia and China thinks of me. 😉

Stick in the eye kinda thing.

I dont support Russia.

But I don’t support the ukraine ever more.

As soon as you cut a check to Kiev you can get behind the pulpit.

How you can reconcile being America first, yet genuflecting to Zalensky and gifting him our largesse is a level of mental gymnastics that I can’t begin to understand.

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by goalie

Just another MN liberal lol.

If not sucking Russia and China's cock make you a liberal......

But, hey, if that's all you got, fire away. I personally hate leftists, and despite what commie infiltrators have done to it institutions her in the US. I couldn't give a [bleep] what someone supporting Russia and China thinks of me. 😉

Stick in the eye kinda thing.

I dont support Russia.

But I don’t support the ukraine ever more.

As soon as you cut a check to Kiev you can get behind the pulpit.

How you can reconcile being America first, yet genuflecting to Zalensky and gifting him our largesse is a level of mental gymnastics that I can’t begin to understand.

This is where I stand. (emphasis mine)

The complete and utter catastrophe, that is the Biden admin, is right about this, but is wrong about every other policy both foreign and domestic???????
But I'm the "America hater". Talk about a clown world.

And Gruff, WHEN 'flave gets back, he gonna have a field day.....

Tell him he aint gotta wait til April 1st

Clyde

I'm for whatever outcome presents the least damage to the U.S. At this point it's obvious that the quicker the conflict is over, the less damage the U.S. will incur.

I couldn't give a less of a damn about Ukraine. Russia can have the whole place if it keeps the crazies from launching WW3 over a corrupt little backwards ass country.

As for Poland, if it wants to fight the Russians over Ukraine, good luck. But Poland isn't worth WW3 to me either.

As for those who want to claim that Russia is in the process of building a Soviet Empire again, that's bullshit. But the *real* fact of the matter is, the U.S. has stirred the pot so much that Russia and China has formed an alliance to counter the U.S. and nations all over the globe are signing on to be a part of it.

There's not going to be a reassembly of the Soviet Union. There's going to be something much stronger and much more wealthy with much more manufacturing ability,..and the U.S. is going to be shut out from it along with U.S. Dollars.

,...and that damage has already been done and it's not going away anytime soon.

Goldie hates everything Bidet does, except for importing antiChristian muxies and supporting Pukraine.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

I'm for whatever outcome presents the least damage to the U.S. At this point it's obvious that the quicker the conflict is over, the less damage the U.S. will incur.

I couldn't give a less of a damn about Ukraine. Russia can have the whole place if it keeps the crazies from launching WW3 over a corrupt little backwards ass country.

As for Poland, if it wants to fight the Russians over Ukraine, good luck. But Poland isn't worth WW3 to me either.

As for those who want to claim that Russia is in the process of building a Soviet Empire again, that's bullshit. But the *real* fact of the matter is, the U.S. has stirred the pot so much that Russia and China has formed an alliance to counter the U.S. and nations all over the globe are signing on to be a part of it.

There's not going to be a reassembly of the Soviet Union. There's going to be something much stronger and much more wealthy with much more manufacturing ability,..and the U.S. is going to be shut out from it along with U.S. Dollars.

,...and that damage has already been done and it's not going away anytime soon.

This, until Trump gets back in and gets us on the Gold Std and trash cans the Fiat US Neonazi petrodollar, F bee Y, and See Why Yea and Neonazi DNC and Rinos.

Bring on the nuclear war baby!!! Us and UK sending over depleted uranium ammunition. This should make the Biden idiots happy

Preach it Bristoe.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

I'm for whatever outcome presents the least damage to the U.S. At this point it's obvious that the quicker the conflict is over, the less damage the U.S. will incur.

I couldn't give a less of a damn about Ukraine. Russia can have the whole place if it keeps the crazies from launching WW3 over a corrupt little backwards ass country.

As for Poland, if it wants to fight the Russians over Ukraine, good luck. But Poland isn't worth WW3 to me either.

As for those who want to claim that Russia is in the process of building a Soviet Empire again, that's bullshit. But the *real* fact of the matter is, the U.S. has stirred the pot so much that Russia and China has formed an alliance to counter the U.S. and nations all over the globe are signing on to be a part of it.

There's not going to be a reassembly of the Soviet Union. There's going to be something much stronger and much more wealthy with much more manufacturing ability,..and the U.S. is going to be shut out from it along with U.S. Dollars.

,...and that damage has already been done and it's not going away anytime soon.

You really are a Russian sympathizer..... likely a Russian BOT...

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Bristoe

I'm for whatever outcome presents the least damage to the U.S. At this point it's obvious that the quicker the conflict is over, the less damage the U.S. will incur.

I couldn't give a less of a damn about Ukraine. Russia can have the whole place if it keeps the crazies from launching WW3 over a corrupt little backwards ass country.

As for Poland, if it wants to fight the Russians over Ukraine, good luck. But Poland isn't worth WW3 to me either.

As for those who want to claim that Russia is in the process of building a Soviet Empire again, that's bullshit. But the *real* fact of the matter is, the U.S. has stirred the pot so much that Russia and China has formed an alliance to counter the U.S. and nations all over the globe are signing on to be a part of it.

There's not going to be a reassembly of the Soviet Union. There's going to be something much stronger and much more wealthy with much more manufacturing ability,..and the U.S. is going to be shut out from it along with U.S. Dollars.

,...and that damage has already been done and it's not going away anytime soon.

You really are a Russian sympathizer..... likely a Russian BOT...

lolol,...Boomer talk like you do is why the young people want all of us Boomers dead.

I hate to say it. But I can understand why.

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

I’m trying to understand patriotism in re the U.S. and how it relates to spending billions in cash and matériel to Kiev to launder for the Biden/Romney crime families.

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

OK, what is your reason for supporting Russia...?

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

OK, what is your reason for supporting Russia...?

Do you have any Japanese vehicles in your driveway or garage?

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

I’m trying to understand patriotism in re the U.S. and how it relates to spending billions in cash and matériel to Kiev to launder for the Biden/Romney crime families.

Fair question, forget patriotism as that is subjective, tell me, why do you support Russia?

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

I quoted you so there's that, but Laughing at You for that post!

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

The biggest pooosies always run their mouths wanting war.

Eat more prunes boomer lol

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

I’m trying to understand patriotism in re the U.S. and how it relates to spending billions in cash and matériel to Kiev to launder for the Biden/Romney crime families.

Fair question, forget patriotism as that is subjective, tell me, why do you support Russia?

I don’t support Russia. I’m simply against spending our capitol on the ukraine.

Originally Posted by johnn

OK, what is your reason for supporting Russia...?

They support Russia because they are probably Russian immigrants and they're cheering for the Home Team.
It's that way with a lot of these Russian sympathizers.
We let too many in, it appears.

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

OK, what is your reason for supporting Russia...?

You chitheads compare not supporting our illegal gov to supporting Russia. We dont support a bullchit war that we have no business being in and we dont want WW3. Ukraine is a bigger chithole than america so we dont care what happens there. None of that mean we support russia. You clowns are just to dumb to make the proper connection

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

If you were intellectually honest and a serious poster, you’d realize how ridiculous this statement is.

What’s your handle on hunttalk?

Originally Posted by gunchamp

You chitheads compare not supporting our illegal gov to supporting Russia. We dont support a bullchit war that we have no business being in and we dont want WW3. Ukraine is a bigger chithole than america so we dont care what happens there. None of that mean we support russia. You clowns are just to dumb to make the proper connection

Your blabber screams "I am a Russian sympathizer."
Other than that, carry on.

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

If you were intellectually honest and a serious poster, you’d realize how ridiculous this statement is.

What’s your handle on hunttalk?

Congratulations.
Lucky for you, I'm using barbless hooks today.

Laffin

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by gunchamp

You chitheads compare not supporting our illegal gov to supporting Russia. We dont support a bullchit war that we have no business being in and we dont want WW3. Ukraine is a bigger chithole than america so we dont care what happens there. None of that mean we support russia. You clowns are just to dumb to make the proper connection

Your blabber screams "I am a Russian sympathizer."
Other than that, carry on.

Yours screams "I dress like a woman and enjoy tucking my little dick"

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

If you were intellectually honest and a serious poster, you’d realize how ridiculous this statement is.

What’s your handle on hunttalk?

Congratulations.
Lucky for you, I'm using barbless hooks today.

Laffin

Keep laffin bitch. Some guys here are actually debating sincerely held positions.

You dumb schits. Russia isn’t going to lose this war. They will not allow it. They will nuke somebody before they allow that. Therefore, anyone supporting Ukraine is ultimately supporting nuclear war. I would sooner see Russia kill every single man, woman, and child in Ukraine, or for that matter the entirety of Europe before I would see any any American city nuked.

I don’t care enough about any of them. So, if Russia isn’t going to be beaten and the longer this goes on, the more likely it escalates to something that might harm my children, then phuqe the Ukrainians and phuqe anybody supporting this mess. I hope you die. And I hope you and the Ukrainians die quickly so the rest of us can get on in peace.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

I quoted you so there's that, but Laughing at You for that post!

The funny thing is that you had to learn MY language.
I have no reason to learn yours, Russian.

Laffin

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

OK, what is your reason for supporting Russia...?

You chitheads compare not supporting our illegal gov to supporting Russia. We dont support a bullchit war that we have no business being in and we dont want WW3. Ukraine is a bigger chithole than america so we dont care what happens there. None of that mean we support russia. You clowns are just to dumb to make the proper connection

Actually, there are quite a few people in here saying Russia and China are trying to save the world from the globohomo NWO, so if you're here, seeing that, and not commenting, one could more reasonably conclude you support Russia than could say I'm a Biden supporter.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

The biggest pooosies always run their mouths wanting war.

ol

Yep, as long as they are safely at home sucking suds bought with Obama bucks.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You dumb schits. Russia isn’t going to lose this war. They will not allow it. They will nuke somebody before they allow that. Therefore, anyone supporting Ukraine is ultimately supporting nuclear war. I would sooner see Russia kill every single man, woman, and child in Ukraine, or for that matter the entirety of Europe before I would see any any American city nuked.

I don’t care enough about any of them. So, if Russia isn’t going to be beaten and the longer this goes on, the more likely it escalates to something that might harm my children, then phuqe the Ukrainians and phuqe anybody supporting this mess. I hope you die. And I hope you and the Ukrainians die quickly so the rest of us can get on in peace.

Yes, yes, the voice of reason.

I can smell the fear just reading it. F'puzzy

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

OK, what is your reason for supporting Russia...?

You chitheads compare not supporting our illegal gov to supporting Russia. We dont support a bullchit war that we have no business being in and we dont want WW3. Ukraine is a bigger chithole than america so we dont care what happens there. None of that mean we support russia. You clowns are just to dumb to make the proper connection

Actually, there are quite a few people in here saying Russia and China are trying to save the world from the globohomo NWO, so if you're here, seeing that, and not commenting, one could more reasonably conclude you support Russia than could say I'm a Biden supporter.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Uh no. Taking a failure to repudiate and making it a tacit supporting position, still does t rise to the level of cheerleading the positions and actions of Biden in regards to the ukraine.

But a for effort.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You dumb schits. Russia isn’t going to lose this war. They will not allow it. They will nuke somebody before they allow that. Therefore, anyone supporting Ukraine is ultimately supporting nuclear war. I would sooner see Russia kill every single man, woman, and child in Ukraine, or for that matter the entirety of Europe before I would see any any American city nuked.

I don’t care enough about any of them. So, if Russia isn’t going to be beaten and the longer this goes on, the more likely it escalates to something that might harm my children, then phuqe the Ukrainians and phuqe anybody supporting this mess. I hope you die. And I hope you and the Ukrainians die quickly so the rest of us can get on in peace.

Yes, yes, the voice of reason.

I can smell the fear just reading it. F'puzzy

Yes, you are a complete dumb schit, obviously. Let me guess, no kids. You were too stupid and repulsive to find someone to mate with.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You dumb schits. Russia isn’t going to lose this war. They will not allow it. They will nuke somebody before they allow that. Therefore, anyone supporting Ukraine is ultimately supporting nuclear war. I would sooner see Russia kill every single man, woman, and child in Ukraine, or for that matter the entirety of Europe before I would see any any American city nuked.

I don’t care enough about any of them. So, if Russia isn’t going to be beaten and the longer this goes on, the more likely it escalates to something that might harm my children, then phuqe the Ukrainians and phuqe anybody supporting this mess. I hope you die. And I hope you and the Ukrainians die quickly so the rest of us can get on in peace.

Yes, yes, the voice of reason.

I can smell the fear just reading it. F'puzzy

Yes, you are a complete dumb schit, obviously. Let me guess, no kids. You were too stupid and repulsive to find someone to mate with.

You don’t pay enough attention dude.

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

I’m trying to understand patriotism in re the U.S. and how it relates to spending billions in cash and matériel to Kiev to launder for the Biden/Romney crime families.

Fair question, forget patriotism as that is subjective, tell me, why do you support Russia?

I appreciate any leader who fights to protect his nation. I especially like Putin because he is taking out the illegal DOD Neonazi financed Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine that have been infecting the world and killing untold millions.

I particularly appreciate Putin having his countrymen, Russians, die to keep another virus similar to but worse than Covid-19 from killing me and my countrymen, even if they are dumbasses such as you.

If you had half a brain and could connect the dots, you might figure out Bill Gates, Faukki and the genius Bidet were not just lucky or clairvoyant when they all predicted Trump would face a pandemic during his term.

I really like it that Putin has a fughking clue and evidently Xi does too as they, more than you, can get another clue.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

I really like it that Putin has a fughking clue and evidently Xi does too as they, more than you can get another clue.

This sums up Jag to a T. In a post sucking off Putin for saving us from Biolabs he talks about how Xi has a clue.

The ability to ignore any inconvenient truths is actually pretty impressive.

Me and Puti don't like this POS.I ESPECIALLY don't like the way they are grinning after giving us who can connect the dots a clue about tbe next virus coming after Covid-19 THAT WILL GET EVERYONES ATTENTION.

I'll post a link to the video below this pic so some of you can tune in and get a clue. Schiett gets real just after the 7 min mark, but listen far a couple of min before that to see how Gates is planning on protecting you.

supergirl vs wonderwoman

Enjoy.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?473341-1/bill-melinda-gates-covid-19

Originally Posted by gunchamp

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

OK, what is your reason for supporting Russia...?

You chitheads compare not supporting our illegal gov to supporting Russia. We dont support a bullchit war that we have no business being in and we dont want WW3. Ukraine is a bigger chithole than america so we dont care what happens there. None of that mean we support russia. You clowns are just to dumb to make the proper connection

They are far too stupid to be able to connect the dots on that set of facts.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

I’m trying to understand patriotism in re the U.S. and how it relates to spending billions in cash and matériel to Kiev to launder for the Biden/Romney crime families.

Fair question, forget patriotism as that is subjective, tell me, why do you support Russia?

I appreciate any leader who fights to protect his nation. I especially like Putin because he is taking out the illegal DOD Neonazi financed Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine that have been infecting the world and killing untold millions.

I particularly appreciate Putin having his countrymen, Russians, die to keep another virus similar to but worse than Covid-19 from killing me and my countrymen, even if they are dumbasses such as you.

If you had half a brain and could connect the dots, you might figure out Bill Gates, Faukki and the genius Bidet were not just lucky or clairvoyant when they all predicted Trump would face a pandemic during his term.

I really like it that Putin has a fughking clue and evidently Xi does too as they, more than you, can get another clue.

The first sentence of Jags post is so hypocritical and HILARIOUS. LMAO

Had to stop reading right there.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

I’m trying to understand patriotism in re the U.S. and how it relates to spending billions in cash and matériel to Kiev to launder for the Biden/Romney crime families.

Fair question, forget patriotism as that is subjective, tell me, why do you support Russia?

I appreciate any leader who fights to protect his nation. I especially like Putin because he is taking out the illegal DOD Neonazi financed Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine that have been infecting the world and killing untold millions.

I particularly appreciate Putin having his countrymen, Russians, die to keep another virus similar to but worse than Covid-19 from killing me and my countrymen, even if they are dumbasses such as you.

If you had half a brain and could connect the dots, you might figure out Bill Gates, Faukki and the genius Bidet were not just lucky or clairvoyant when they all predicted Trump would face a pandemic during his term.

I really like it that Putin has a fughking clue and evidently Xi does too as they, more than you, can get another clue.

The first sentence of Jags post is so hypocritical and HILARIOUS. LMAO

Had to stop reading right there.

LOL
Jag-Wire sucks on the teat of the Dark Web and worships Ritter and MacGregor.
There's no hope for him, but he is entertaining.

The leftists who run this country and stirred up the Ukraine conflict hate *you* more than they hate Russians.

The King..

Egypt, Libya, Syria, Ukraine

And Israel but wasn’t Successful..

In his Third Term as Potentate the End of All Mankind.

That will Fix Netanyahu..

Funny chit...

Sitrep.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Sitrep.

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"General Mud" or the "Rasputitsa" is well known to WWII historians as the Black Earth. some of the most fertile soil in the world, in southern and central Ukraine becomes a literal quagmire during the wet Autumn and early Spring as well as intermittent periods during Winter.. This earth was so fertile that the Nazis actually shipped rail cars of it back to Germany when they occupied Ukraine early in the war in the East.

Tracked or wheeled vehicles cannot operate off any hard roads or they will literally sink into this mud, sometimes as much as 10 feet or more becoming immobile .. Grunts will often find themselves waist deep if they get caught in this heavy, wet, black, soil.

This often worked to Russia's and the USSR's advantage in their wars with Napoleon and Hitler for obvious reasons but is now a major hindrance to their operations. They were hoping the ground would freeze enough in January to enable mobile strikes but this didn't happen.

Right now, the Russians are content to bleed the Ukrainians with stand off weapons; artillery, missiles, rockets, drones, etc. They are in no hurry and by employing these stand off weapons they are keeping their own casualties relatively minimal.

They are in no hurry to advance as a consequence of the season of mud, however they have amassed large attack Armies waiting for the ground to harden as well as a large number of reserves mostly up near and in White Russia in case of NATO interference. You don't think they would neglect contingency plans to counter a NATO incursion?

Time will tell.

MAGA!

Originally Posted by TreeMutt

Right now, the Russians are content to bleed the Ukrainians with stand off weapons; artillery, missiles, rockets, drones, etc. They are in no hurry and by employing these stand off weapons they are keeping their own casualties relatively minimal.

They are in no hurry to advance as a consequence of the season of mud, however they have amassed large attack Armies waiting for the ground to harden as well as a large number of reserves mostly up near and in White Russia in case of NATO interference. You don't think they would neglect contingency plans to counter a NATO incursion?

Time will tell.

MAGA!

I am always a bit suprised that a few here are consistantly wrong but never in doubt.

How do some posters just keep posting stupid takes and act like they don't have a history of stupid takes and are a laughing stock.

Originally Posted by TreeMutt 1/2 a year ago

Like the old Indian said when asked "who's side you on", reply; "whose winnin?"...hard to believe the Ukes are running out of anything, especially ammo, after the billions we've given them!....Won't be long now. Wonder how the peace is gonna make the Brandon click look after all the usual lies and squandered billions?

Originally Posted by ...PeedMutty

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The leftists who run this country and stirred up the Ukraine conflict hate *you* more than they hate Russians.

Truth. That's why we have Constitutionally illegal open borders, illegal muxxy immigration, Chynese Fentanyl, Billions to the Taliban and Nazi World Order.

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Daveinjax

Originally Posted by johnn

Its apparent on the Fire Russia can do whatever they want and patriotism is dead.
Sure, plenty of political inclusions and yep, its possible something could have been negotiated early on.

But guess what, we are where we are, like it or not, I detest war.... but no way do I support Russia in this.

They dont like bloc confrontation so they invade Ukraine and remove the buffer between them and NATO... some of you buying into that BS!

We should not have let then skate when they invaded Crimea.

All the Russian sympathizers need to leave the US.

Russia is not our friend and long live patriotism.

John , you wouldn’t know patriotism if it bit you on the ass ! I served to protect America not empire!

I’m trying to understand patriotism in re the U.S. and how it relates to spending billions in cash and matériel to Kiev to launder for the Biden/Romney crime families.

Fair question, forget patriotism as that is subjective, tell me, why do you support Russia?

I appreciate any leader who fights to protect his nation. I especially like Putin because he is taking out the illegal DOD Neonazi financed Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine that have been infecting the world and killing untold millions.

I particularly appreciate Putin having his countrymen, Russians, die to keep another virus similar to but worse than Covid-19 from killing me and my countrymen, even if they are dumbasses such as you.

If you had half a brain and could connect the dots, you might figure out Bill Gates, Faukki and the genius Bidet were not just lucky or clairvoyant when they all predicted Trump would face a pandemic during his term.

I really like it that Putin has a fughking clue and evidently Xi does too as they, more than you, can get another clue.

The first sentence of Jags post is so hypocritical and HILARIOUS. LMAO

Had to stop reading right there.

LOL
Jag-Wire sucks on the teat of the Dark Web and worships Ritter and MacGregor.
There's no hope for him, but he is entertaining.

Coming from you and your corksucking commie crew, that is no less than a Supreme complement.

Originally Posted by ...JaggedEyeballs

Originally Posted by kk alaska

Just gonna qoute this for future reference.

You posting of a video made by a convicted sex offender is Duly Noted.

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SitRep.

Finland has just opened it's airspace to NATO ISR platforms.

US and NATO Rivet Joints are flying ISR missions now.

Who knows what else is up not squawking. 2 ships of F-35s with a 50 mile wide aperture on the AESA?

The Orcs so miscalculated the blowback from invading Ukraine.

Daily post: Russia is winning...."Russian Grind"

Direct Drive is stupid

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Sitrep.

You and Jque and Direct Drivel keep playing with you egos and nuts while Putin saves your worthless asses from the Ill Lumin Natti.

Keep wishing in one hand and ......

Popcorn farts sound big to kernels of corn and you suckers are primo at popping off while others with brains try to give you a clue. Too bad you have to have a brain to catch a clue.

Zelensky will be dead and gone while your crew will still be wanting to suck his dong..

Enjoy.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

Daily post: Russia is winning...."Russian Grind"

Direct Drive is stupid

Exactly right.

And ya got cucktards postin maps of Bahkmut, showin cuckraine owns less of it then ever before, as if it's some sort of success.

Yet aginst the the largest land army in Eurasia:

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SitRep.

Counter Attack.

Originally Posted by Reuters

Ukraine's top ground forces commander Oleksandr Syrskyi said his forces would soon begin a counter offensive after withstanding Russia's brutal winter campaign.

He said Russia's Wagner mercenaries, who have been at the front line of Moscow's assault on eastern and southern Ukraine, "are losing considerable strength and are running out of steam".

"Very soon, we will take advantage of this opportunity, as we did in the past near Kyiv, Kharkiv, Balakliya and Kupiansk," he said, listing Ukrainian counteroffensives last year that recaptured swathes of land.

There was no immediate response from Moscow to suggestions its forces in Bakhmut were losing momentum, but Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin issued statements in recent days, warning of a Ukrainian counterassault.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by TreeMutt

Right now, the Russians are content to bleed the Ukrainians with stand off weapons; artillery, missiles, rockets, drones, etc. They are in no hurry and by employing these stand off weapons they are keeping their own casualties relatively minimal.

They are in no hurry to advance as a consequence of the season of mud, however they have amassed large attack Armies waiting for the ground to harden as well as a large number of reserves mostly up near and in White Russia in case of NATO interference. You don't think they would neglect contingency plans to counter a NATO incursion?

Time will tell.

MAGA!

I am always a bit suprised that a few here are consistantly wrong but never in doubt.

How do some posters just keep posting stupid takes and act like they don't have a history of stupid takes and are a laughing stock.

Originally Posted by TreeMutt 1/2 a year ago

Like the old Indian said when asked "who's side you on", reply; "whose winnin?"...hard to believe the Ukes are running out of anything, especially ammo, after the billions we've given them!....Won't be long now. Wonder how the peace is gonna make the Brandon click look after all the usual lies and squandered billions?

Originally Posted by ...PeedMutty

No joy in "Mudville" soon!

MAGA!

Still don’t care

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

There's nothing nastier than a white guy who's racist against white people. ^^^^

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by stevelyn

So, if/when the Ukes get long range strike capabilities, they should do the same to Russia, right? Or should they stick to just taking out Moscow's power grid and leave apartment buildings alone?

If Ukraine tries that, Russia will use tactical nukes on them.

Won't hurt my feelers any.

I'm not sure who is winning but I do know for certain that the American tax payer is losing!

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The people in charge better revive it. Military enlistments are way down and wokism has destroyed what there is of America's military.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...kest_levels_since_postvietnam_nadir.html

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

There's nothing nastier than a white guy who's racist against white people. ^^^^

It's more of a culture thing than a race thing. Russia has been the drunk, white trash, trailer park of Eurasia for over 100 years.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

There's nothing nastier than a white guy who's racist against white people. ^^^^

It's more of a culture thing than a race thing. Russia has been the drunk, white trash, trailer park of Eurasia for over 100 years.

Just like the Baltics have been drunk, white trash, trailer park socialists of Northern Europe for 100 years.
But crickets on them.

Don't forget those darned Irish blokes.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Don't forget those darned Irish blokes.

Oh, yes! Darn those Mics! Send tanks after them!

Originally Posted by Virginian2

I'm not sure who is winning but I do know for certain that the American tax payer is losing!

No schit. Funny the number of alcoholic anti Americans on here support this needless war

Come spring Zelinskyy will be fertilizer.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

There's nothing nastier than a white guy who's racist against white people. ^^^^

It's more of a culture thing than a race thing. Russia has been the drunk, white trash, trailer park of Eurasia for over 100 years.

Just like the Baltics have been drunk, white trash, trailer park socialists of Northern Europe for 100 years.
But crickets on them.

During Covid Goalie stated that the medical establishment was doing a tremendous job and that ivermectin was toxic. So there's your credible source lol

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Virginian2

I'm not sure who is winning but I do know for certain that the American tax payer is losing!

No schit. Funny the number of alcoholic anti Americans on here support this needless war

And.... dont forget to include the Russian sympathizers on meds

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Virginian2

I'm not sure who is winning but I do know for certain that the American tax payer is losing!

No schit. Funny the number of alcoholic anti Americans on here support this needless war

Or oppose it. I mean, nobody thinks Jag is sober, right?!?!???

Me, well, I don't drink.....

Originally Posted by ribka

During Covid Goalie stated that the medical establishment was doing a tremendous job and that ivermectin was toxic. So there's your credible source lol

??????

Um, you may want to go back and do some reading. Trying to say i said that, which is literally the opposite of what I said at the beginning of the covid BS, just makes you a lying POS.

Seriously, GFY with an AIDS infected cactus you lying worm.

Edit: remember when Toot was trying to say my new job was punishment, not a promotion, because I wouldn't get the jab? I do.

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Virginian2

I'm not sure who is winning but I do know for certain that the American tax payer is losing!

No schit. Funny the number of alcoholic anti Americans on here support this needless war

And.... dont forget to include the Russian sympathizers on meds

Well, I'm a Russian sympathizer to the extent that I hope Russia prevails against the nasty country of Ukraine that I am near certain was being pushed by NATO, international bankers, et al to destabilize Russia which is not necessarily a good thing. Not wanting a NWO and Russia stands in the way of that.

And I'm on meds every day. Amlodipine 5mg twice a day for HBP.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Virginian2

I'm not sure who is winning but I do know for certain that the American tax payer is losing!

No schit. Funny the number of alcoholic anti Americans on here support this needless war

And.... dont forget to include the Russian sympathizers on meds

Well, I'm a Russian sympathizer to the extent that I hope Russia prevails against the nasty country of Ukraine that I am near certain was being pushed by NATO, international bankers, et al to destabilize Russia which is not necessarily a good thing. Not wanting a NWO and Russia stands in the way of that.

And I'm on meds every day. Amlodipine 5mg twice a day for HBP.

"Near certain"....Laughing, that just sounds so credible.

Anyone for Ukraine is either stupid as a box of rocks (insulting to rocks by the way) or has been duped by the MSM. There are other ways to get to the truth but many are 2 damned lazy to look into it.

Do some research.

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by johnn

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Virginian2

I'm not sure who is winning but I do know for certain that the American tax payer is losing!

No schit. Funny the number of alcoholic anti Americans on here support this needless war

And.... dont forget to include the Russian sympathizers on meds

Well, I'm a Russian sympathizer to the extent that I hope Russia prevails against the nasty country of Ukraine that I am near certain was being pushed by NATO, international bankers, et al to destabilize Russia which is not necessarily a good thing. Not wanting a NWO and Russia stands in the way of that.

And I'm on meds every day. Amlodipine 5mg twice a day for HBP.

"Near certain"....Laughing, that just sounds so credible.

They don't invite me to their strategy meetings. But you know, if it looks like a duck.........

Anyone for Ukraine must answer the question why they refused to talk with Putin early in this conflict when he urged them to. His demands were reasonable. It's been pretty well established that our government urged them to fight him. How'd that work out?

Originally Posted by rainshot

Anyone for Ukraine must answer the question why they refused to talk with Putin early in this conflict when he urged them to. His demands were reasonable. It's been pretty well established that our government urged them to fight him. How'd that work out?

You mean our government that publicly tried to get Zman to fly out of the country as the war started? Funny way to urge then to fight.

Our government that didn't provide arms until waaaaay too late? Funny way to urge them to fight.

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by rainshot

Anyone for Ukraine must answer the question why they refused to talk with Putin early in this conflict when he urged them to. His demands were reasonable. It's been pretty well established that our government urged them to fight him. How'd that work out?

You mean our government that publicly tried to get Zman to fly out of the country as the war started? Funny way to urge then to fight.

Our government that didn't provide arms until waaaaay too late? Funny way to urge them to fight.

You stated what our government "publicly" tried to do.

Which likely means they privately did the opposite. Zman just like Biden is NOT calling the shots.

Disclaimer: I was not in on the meetings when these decisions were made. You don't need to remind me that I don't 100% know what's up. You don't either but at least I go on the overwhelming probabilities.

Originally Posted by Hastings

You stated what our government "publicly" tried to do.

Which likely means they privately did the opposite. Zman just like Biden is NOT calling the shots.

Disclaimer: I was not in on the meetings when these decisions were made. You don't need to remind me that I don't 100% know what's up. You don't either but at least I go on the overwhelming probabilities.

What about the providing arms part? It seems like if "the deep state" wanted the ukes to duke it out with Russia, they would have had their puppet Obama load them up with arms.

And, FWIW, Biden appeared even more senile and stupid than usual when Zman didn't take him up on his offer to flee. We'll have to disagree on the support secret real but not real hidden intention stuff.

Goalie….Are you asserting that we didn’t start sending arms and equipment until AFTER Russia “invaded” Ukraine? In other words when Obongo-Klinton-Nuland fomented civil insurrection in 2014 in Ukraine you’re stating that we didn’t start equipping them with arms, ammunition, intelligence, etc until February 2022?

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Goalie….Are you asserting that we didn’t start sending arms and equipment until AFTER Russia “invaded” Ukraine? In other words when Obongo-Klinton-Nuland fomented civil insurrection in 2014 in Ukraine you’re stating that we didn’t start equipping them with arms, ammunition, intelligence, etc until February 2022?

No.

I'm noting that, to a reasonable person, if the assertion that "the deep state" wanted the ukes to duke it out with Russia, Obama wouldn't have sent blankets, he would have sent bombs. But he didn't send any real amount of arms.

Which, considering Obama is the stooge of all deep state stooges, makes me question the validity of said assertion.

Two winning comments from ZeroHedge:

"Why are we in Syria and not respecting their sovereignty like we accuse Russia of doing to Ukraine?"

and this:

"The US, thousands of miles from its mainland, attacking another country and it's OK but Russia defending its borders and people from NATO threats is a war crime. Really unbelievable.

The US continues to illegally occupy Eastern Syria and steal its oil and grain, yet hypocritically asks Russia to vacate Crimea, which voted to join Russia!

US hypocrisy doesn't have any limits !!"

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Those Russians are a nasty race of people.
They cause the world a lot of grief.
Accept that you suck and go back to your own country.
And maybe try some new leadership.

There's nothing nastier than a white guy who's racist against white people. ^^^^

How does that happen?

Originally Posted by gonehuntin

Two winning comments from ZeroHedge:

"Why are we in Syria and not respecting their sovereignty like we accuse Russia of doing to Ukraine?"

and this:

"The US, thousands of miles from its mainland, attacking another country and it's OK but Russia defending its borders and people from NATO threats is a war crime. Really unbelievable.

The US continues to illegally occupy Eastern Syria and steal its oil and grain, yet hypocritically asks Russia to vacate Crimea, which voted to join Russia!

US hypocrisy doesn't have any limits !!"

Ukraine had sovereignty.

The Russians are sitting back, drinking vodka, eating cabbage rolls around an artillery piece just waiting for that Jewish guy to send another wave of poor, stupid Ukrainians forward.

Then they blow them up and go back to drinking and eating until that Jewish guy sends the next wave.

Occasionally they look at each other, shake their heads in a sympathetic manner and ask, "How long before those poor, stupid Ukranians learn about Bolsheviks?"

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The Russians are sitting back, drinking vodka, eating cabbage rolls around an artillery piece just waiting for that Jewish guy to send another wave of poor, stupid Ukrainians forward.

Then they blow them up and go back to drinking and eating until that Jewish guy sends the next wave.

Occasionally they look at each other, shake their heads in a sympathetic manner and ask, "How long before those poor, stupid Ukranians learn about Bolsheviks?"

Yes, yes that's exactly what you see in all the drone footage.

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Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by gonehuntin

Two winning comments from ZeroHedge:

"Why are we in Syria and not respecting their sovereignty like we accuse Russia of doing to Ukraine?"

and this:

"The US, thousands of miles from its mainland, attacking another country and it's OK but Russia defending its borders and people from NATO threats is a war crime. Really unbelievable.

The US continues to illegally occupy Eastern Syria and steal its oil and grain, yet hypocritically asks Russia to vacate Crimea, which voted to join Russia!

Ukraine had sovereignty.

Syria had sovereignty!
Iraq had sovereignty!

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The Russians are sitting back, drinking vodka, eating cabbage rolls around an artillery piece just waiting for that Jewish guy to send another wave of poor, stupid Ukrainians forward.

Then they blow them up and go back to drinking and eating until that Jewish guy sends the next wave.

Occasionally they look at each other, shake their heads in a sympathetic manner and ask, "How long before those poor, stupid Ukranians learn about Bolsheviks?"

Russians drinking vodka

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The Russians are sitting back, drinking vodka, eating cabbage rolls around an artillery piece just waiting for that Jewish guy to send another wave of poor, stupid Ukrainians forward.

Then they blow them up and go back to drinking and eating until that Jewish guy sends the next wave.

Occasionally they look at each other, shake their heads in a sympathetic manner and ask, "How long before those poor, stupid Ukranians learn about Bolsheviks?"

Russians drinking vodka

Pro Ukraine propaganda account. There's no shortage of them.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Bristoe

The Russians are sitting back, drinking vodka, eating cabbage rolls around an artillery piece just waiting for that Jewish guy to send another wave of poor, stupid Ukrainians forward.

Then they blow them up and go back to drinking and eating until that Jewish guy sends the next wave.

Occasionally they look at each other, shake their heads in a sympathetic manner and ask, "How long before those poor, stupid Ukranians learn about Bolsheviks?"

Russians drinking vodka

Pro Ukraine propaganda account. There's no shortage of them.

I know. It's fitting, because it was in reply to someone who posts literal Russian propaganda.

It's funny due to irony. 😜

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by rainshot

Anyone for Ukraine must answer the question why they refused to talk with Putin early in this conflict when he urged them to. His demands were reasonable. It's been pretty well established that our government urged them to fight him. How'd that work out?

You mean our government that publicly tried to get Zman to fly out of the country as the war started? Funny way to urge then to fight.

Our government that didn't provide arms until waaaaay too late? Funny way to urge them to fight.

We began training the Ukrainian Army to destroy Russia in 2014 after the Maidan coup, the USA backed, globalist, neocon, warmonger, overthrow of a Russia friendly Ukrainian government

Weapons were approved for Ukraine at least as early as the Obama Administration, probably earlier, and the USA approved Javelin anti-tank missiles, among other supplies, to Ukraine in 2016 or 2017.

MAGA!

So Biden didn't give Ukraine Billions after they agreed not to prosecute Hunter? ??

Billions buys lots of weapons. That is if there is enough of those billions left after Zman and the Big guy pocket their shares......which is what this is about.

Originally Posted by kenjs1

So Biden didn't give Ukraine Billions after they agreed not to prosecute Hunter? ??

Billions buys lots of weapons. That is if there is enough of those billions left after Zman and the Big guy pocket their shares......which is what this is about.

You realize that was a different regime and leader, right?

The pro Russia people here say that we toppled the pro Russia puppet regime and ignore that that regime was who hunter and a bunch of other politicians kids (both sides of the aisle) were in bed with.

Originally Posted by kenjs1

So Biden didn't give Ukraine Billions after they agreed not to prosecute Hunter? ??

Billions buys lots of weapons. That is if there is enough of those billions left after Zman and the Big guy pocket their shares......which is what this is about.

Make No Mistake ..

Their All in On It ..

Their all Guilty of the Cum’n Leveling..

For all the losers that give two phuggs about this regional conflict, go over and fight for whatever side you love.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

For all the losers that give two phuggs about this regional conflict, go over and fight for whatever side you love.

You realize that you don't have to love a side to think a proxy war is a good idea. After two decades and tens of thousands of American lives wasted, I'm happy to see Russia get it's chitt pushed in with the west's weapons. Granted, IMO, the EU should be footing the bill (yes, you Germany, you fugg'n leeches) and we should only be providing material not money.

But, this is 24HC, so everything is black and white. There's never any grey, and my thoughts on the matter apparently mean that, despite despising liberals and never voting for a Democrat ever in my life, I apparently now love Biden.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

For all the losers that give two phuggs about this regional conflict, go over and fight for whatever side you love.

You realize that you don't have to love a side to think a proxy war is a good idea. After two decades and tens of thousands of American lives wasted, I'm happy to see Russia get it's chitt pushed in with the west's weapons. Granted, IMO, the EU should be footing the bill (yes, you Germany, you fugg'n leeches) and we should only be providing material not money.

But, this is 24HC, so everything is black and white. There's never any grey, and my thoughts on the matter apparently mean that, despite despising liberals and never voting for a Democrat ever in my life, I apparently now love Biden.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

You could've typed a lot less to say "I'm phuggin dumb".

Every single time the U.S. does exactly what you're describing, it comes back to bite us in the azz. (See Afghan mujahideen for an easy example)

All these phuggin globalist loving boomers can't comprehend it is neither our obligation or interest to police the world.

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

For all the losers that give two phuggs about this regional conflict, go over and fight for whatever side you love.

You realize that you don't have to love a side to think a proxy war is a good idea. After two decades and tens of thousands of American lives wasted, I'm happy to see Russia get it's chitt pushed in with the west's weapons. Granted, IMO, the EU should be footing the bill (yes, you Germany, you fugg'n leeches) and we should only be providing material not money.

But, this is 24HC, so everything is black and white. There's never any grey, and my thoughts on the matter apparently mean that, despite despising liberals and never voting for a Democrat ever in my life, I apparently now love Biden.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

You could've typed a lot less to say "I'm phuggin dumb".

Every single time the U.S. does exactly what you're describing, it comes back to bite us in the azz. (See Afghan mujahideen for example)

All these phuggin globalist loving boomers can't comprehend it is neither our obligation or interest to run the world.

You forgot “I’m also an evil phuqer who jacks off to hundreds of thousands of people dying”.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

For all the losers that give two phuggs about this regional conflict, go over and fight for whatever side you love.

You realize that you don't have to love a side to think a proxy war is a good idea. After two decades and tens of thousands of American lives wasted, I'm happy to see Russia get it's chitt pushed in with the west's weapons. Granted, IMO, the EU should be footing the bill (yes, you Germany, you fugg'n leeches) and we should only be providing material not money.

But, this is 24HC, so everything is black and white. There's never any grey, and my thoughts on the matter apparently mean that, despite despising liberals and never voting for a Democrat ever in my life, I apparently now love Biden.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

You could've typed a lot less to say "I'm phuggin dumb".

Every single time the U.S. does exactly what you're describing, it comes back to bite us in the azz. (See Afghan mujahideen for example)

All these phuggin globalist loving boomers can't comprehend it is neither our obligation or interest to run the world.

You forgot “I’m also an evil phuqer who jacks off to hundreds of thousands of people dying”.

True.

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

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Originally Posted by goalie

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

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That you are a short sighted idiot that can't see that every time we fund instability it impacts us negatively?

Go fight if you love it so much.

Update 25mar2023: Russia winning......"Russian Grind"

Side note for the Uketards: how come the Russian banks aren't COLLAPSING???????

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by goalie

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

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That you are a short sighted idiot that can't see that every time we fund instability it impacts us negatively?

Go fight if you love it so much.

Instability would be caused by the Russians invading another country.

And, sorry, I don't need a star on my CAR. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Feel free to join Wagner though.....

Originally Posted by goalie

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Originally Posted by goalie

Thanks for reinforcing my point.

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That you are a short sighted idiot that can't see that every time we fund instability it impacts us negatively?

Go fight if you love it so much.

Instability would be caused by the Russians invading another country.

And, sorry, I don't need a star on my CAR. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Feel free to join Wagner though.....

Instability would be what the U.S. and nato were doing in Ukraine (for decades). IE the foreign meddling people like you love.

Go fight for Ukraine...

Years ago, we signed an agreement that if Ukraine would give up it's nuclear weapons, we would protect Ukraine in the event of an invasion from Russia. Many do not know this fact or think that we are not bound by our agreements/treaties.

It seems to me history has got it wrong.

The Orcs must be the greatest lovers known.

If they breed like they “ win “ wars…….must be hours upon hours of foreplay.
Maybeee….weeks?

No?

PS

I never knew the US would not honor an agreement

Said Sitting Bull never.

Originally Posted by keith

Years ago, we signed an agreement that if Ukraine would give up it's nuclear weapons, we would protect Ukraine in the event of an invasion from Russia. Many do not know this fact or think that we are not bound by our agreements/treaties.

And there is the crux of the issue. Globalism.

Idiots believe it's "the way"......it sure is the way to trillions of debt and decades of bullschiet nation building wars.

Globalists never saw a war they didn't want someone else to die in..

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Globalists never saw a war they didn't want someone else to die in..

^---Bottom line. Keep your children out of the .mil at all costs or you will pay the cost of their enlistment when they come home from a foreign land in a flag-draped box.

Originally Posted by gonehuntin

Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy

Globalists never saw a war they didn't want someone else to die in..

^---Bottom line. Keep your children out of the .mil at all costs or you will pay the cost of their enlistment when they come home from a foreign land in a flag-draped box.

Or missing arms, legs, brain injuries, burns. Battle or otherwise related injuries they will live with the rest of their lives. So that Team Biden, MIC, NWO, Globalist interests can bloat their Egos. Refer to the thread where Baby Bush and the audience were joking about the WMD of Iraq.

And the US keeps on sending retired MG's to build these puppet leader's military, shaping their gov't policy on how to accept the graft funding while insuring these puppets write BIG checks to Raytheon, Pratt, Lockheed/Martin, Bell Textron, Sikorsky and the rest of the military industrial complex.

Abject stupidity.

Originally Posted by keith

Years ago, we signed an agreement that if Ukraine would give up it's nuclear weapons, we would protect Ukraine in the event of an invasion from Russia. Many do not know this fact or think that we are not bound by our agreements/treaties.

Then trained and outfitted their military, overthrew their government, installed an anti Putin dictator then goaded them into instigating Russia by threatening to include Ukraine membership in NATO. A move that the Globalists knew would trigger war with Russia and that's exactly what they wanted and is the hidden reason why they promised to defend Ukraine.

But Ukraine is paying the price and George Soros is cheering their death rate on and the illegal government in Washington continues to funnel taxpayer funded everything into a black hole of corruption and deceit.

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You forgot “I’m also an evil phuqer who jacks off to hundreds of thousands of people dying”.

We didn't forget and you remind us on a regular basis of your hate for the USA and Puint Pufter love of the Orcs.

Evil Phuqer says WHAT?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You are undoubtedly the dumbest [bleep] on this board. I was bitching about the stupidity of confronting Russia over a pissant country full of beggars. That’s not appeasement. I hope he takes it and kills them all. I’m rooting for him. I prefer him to those [bleep].

The fire is fraught with anti-American Russian sympathizers, bitchin and whining about our industrial military complex whilst they bask in the safety and security that comes with living in the US of A.

And the awesome Russian military attacked Bakhmut when....? They started shelling August first 2022... SEVEN months later they still haven't taken the Ukes.

I am not pro-war, but Red or Dead... which is it...?

As Q said, Rig for Red.

To answer the op's question. Nobody.

Originally Posted by johnn

The fire is fraught with anti-American Russian sympathizers, bitchin and whining about our industrial military complex whilst they bask in the safety and security that comes with living in the US of A.

And the awesome Russian military attacked Bakhmut when....? They started shelling August first 2022... SEVEN months later they still haven't taken the Ukes.

I am not pro-war, but Red or Dead... which is it...?

The America you're cheering on hasn't existed for a long, long time.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by johnn

The fire is fraught with anti-American Russian sympathizers, bitchin and whining about our industrial military complex whilst they bask in the safety and security that comes with living in the US of A.

And the awesome Russian military attacked Bakhmut when....? They started shelling August first 2022... SEVEN months later they still haven't taken the Ukes.

I am not pro-war, but Red or Dead... which is it...?

The America you're cheering on hasn't existed for a long, long time.

Well not to many years ago anyone advocating running down Americans and putting them is Russian prison because they got butt hurt would have been shunned here at the Campfire.

Now you Putin Pufters cheer a dictator and dream of using the far lefts suppression of speech for anyone not in lock step.

So things have changed a bit but some of us still believe in freedom and are working to stop you and the other Commies.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

My money and more importantly my prayers are with Russia.

They have the advantage.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

I am praying for Russian victory and an end to this before the whole world gets involved. The Russian money I have I believe could be negotiated through Mexico but I am going to consider it a loan to Russia for now.

What has happened to those who didn't roll over for the UN, WEF and NWO and the Rothschilds?

They dethroned Trump and are working to destroy Putin. Why, because they are Believers in Christ and are Nationalists.

I believe GOD can use who HE wants, when HE wants. I believe He is moving and using people just as HE used Paul.

td branch

exchange near me

Originally Posted by goalie

Instability would be caused by the Russians invading another country.

And, sorry, I don't need a star on my CAR. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Feel free to join Wagner though.....

And we should be spending 100s of BILLIONS and debasing our dollar even more because of a fight caused by who knows what??

Exactly what have we gained but hatred and misery for our meddling the last 10+ decades?

That we lost our treasury and our best young men beyond measure is for certain.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

I believe GOD can use who HE wants, when HE wants. I believe He is moving and using people just as HE used Paul.

td branch

exchange near me

You are officially declared a nutty zealot LOL

Hey Dumbass, I didn't say it was going to rain 40 days and nights, enough to float my Ark and I didn't say YOU could be reborn and have everlasting life in Heaven.

I don't support these guys. Keep sucking your MSM cock.

Mental illness is real.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You forgot “I’m also an evil phuqer who jacks off to hundreds of thousands of people dying”.

We didn't forget and you remind us on a regular basis of your hate for the USA and Puint Pufter love of the Orcs.

Evil Phuqer says WHAT?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You are undoubtedly the dumbest [bleep] on this board. I was bitching about the stupidity of confronting Russia over a pissant country full of beggars. That’s not appeasement. I hope he takes it and kills them all. I’m rooting for him. I prefer him to those [bleep].

Yes, I absolutely hope he does because it protects my people and because anyone prolonging this mess needs to die. But I’m not cheering on stupid bullschit like you are a bragging about the virtues of killing “orcs”. I’m not the one who goes on and on about it’s a good thing to kill Russians without having to use American boots in the ground.

You’re a fat alcoholic piece of schit who probably doesn’t have too much longer to live. You should probably reflect upon that and think about getting right with God. Do so, because you don’t offer anyone anything. You don’t have a wife. You don’t have kids. You’re just a sad overweight, short, alcoholic piece of schit who jacks off to war.

Here's your bud who went to Ukraine in 2007 along with Richard Lugar to set up internationally illegal US Neonazis Bioweapons Labs to make millions die and Big Pharma rich.

Your kind of people.

And I don't support your NWO/WEF pukes.

Cleary you are bored and your blood pressure is peaking..

Calm yer azz down, nothing to prove to me, jus saying

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You forgot “I’m also an evil phuqer who jacks off to hundreds of thousands of people dying”.

We didn't forget and you remind us on a regular basis of your hate for the USA and Puint Pufter love of the Orcs.

Evil Phuqer says WHAT?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You are undoubtedly the dumbest [bleep] on this board. I was bitching about the stupidity of confronting Russia over a pissant country full of beggars. That’s not appeasement. I hope he takes it and kills them all. I’m rooting for him. I prefer him to those [bleep].

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Yes, I absolutely hope he does because it protects my people and because anyone prolonging this mess needs to die. But I’m not cheering on stupid bullschit like you are a bragging about the virtues of killing “orcs”. I’m not the one who goes on and on about it’s a good thing to kill Russians without having to use American boots in the ground.

You’re a fat alcoholic piece of schit who probably doesn’t have too much longer to live. You should probably reflect upon that and think about getting right with God. Do so, because you don’t offer anyone anything. You don’t have a wife. You don’t have kids. You’re just a sad overweight, short, alcoholic piece of schit who jacks off to war.

Originally Posted by jaguartx

If you believe all that, why have the Russians been struggling for SEVEN MONTHS of attacking Bakhmut and still haven't accomplished that goal?

That is a undisputed fact, the videos that come out, on each side are questionable. You essentially look for videos that support what you believe and you sit there mouth agape saying, YAS, YAS, would ya look at that.....

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

[quote=JoeBob]
You forgot “I’m also an evil phuqer who jacks off to hundreds of thousands of people dying”.

We didn't forget and you remind us on a regular basis of your hate for the USA and Puint Pufter love of the Orcs.

Evil Phuqer says WHAT?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You are undoubtedly the dumbest [bleep] on this board. I was bitching about the stupidity of confronting Russia over a pissant country full of beggars. That’s not appeasement. I hope he takes it and kills them all. I’m rooting for him. I prefer him to those [bleep].

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Yes, I absolutely hope he does because it protects my people and because anyone prolonging this mess needs to die. But I’m not cheering on stupid bullschit like you are a bragging about the virtues of killing “orcs”. I’m not the one who goes on and on about it’s a good thing to kill Russians without having to use American boots in the ground.

You’re a fat alcoholic piece of schit who probably doesn’t have too much longer to live. You should probably reflect upon that and think about getting right with God. Do so, because you don’t offer anyone anything. You don’t have a wife. You don’t have kids. You’re just a sad overweight, short, alcoholic piece of schit who jacks off to war.

John Burns: Are you feeling OK today?

Originally Posted by Hastings

John Burns: Are you feeling OK today?

Quisling says WHAT?

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

My money and more importantly my prayers are with Russia.

They have the advantage.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

I am praying for Russian victory and an end to this before the whole world gets involved. The Russian money I have I believe could be negotiated through Mexico but I am going to consider it a loan to Russia for now.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

[quote=JoeBob]
You forgot “I’m also an evil phuqer who jacks off to hundreds of thousands of people dying”.

We didn't forget and you remind us on a regular basis of your hate for the USA and Puint Pufter love of the Orcs.

Evil Phuqer says WHAT?

Originally Posted by JoeBob

You are undoubtedly the dumbest [bleep] on this board. I was bitching about the stupidity of confronting Russia over a pissant country full of beggars. That’s not appeasement. I hope he takes it and kills them all. I’m rooting for him. I prefer him to those [bleep].

Originally Posted by JoeBob

Yes, I absolutely hope he does because it protects my people and because anyone prolonging this mess needs to die. But I’m not cheering on stupid bullschit like you are a bragging about the virtues of killing “orcs”. I’m not the one who goes on and on about it’s a good thing to kill Russians without having to use American boots in the ground.

You’re a fat alcoholic piece of schit who probably doesn’t have too much longer to live. You should probably reflect upon that and think about getting right with God. Do so, because you don’t offer anyone anything. You don’t have a wife. You don’t have kids. You’re just a sad overweight, short, alcoholic piece of schit who jacks off to war.

John Burns: Are you feeling OK today?

He's upset cause you put your money where your mouth is with your "loan to Russia" quote.

It shows what a punk he is because he won't (or can't afford to) use his own money to support a cause he believes is just. He's happy to rip off the American people vicariously through govt taxation.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Hastings

John Burns: Are you feeling OK today?

He's upset cause you put your money where your mouth is with your "loan to Russia" quote.

It shows what a punk he is because he won't (or can't afford to) use his own money to support a cause he believes is just. He's happy to rip off the American people vicariously through govt taxation.

And here I was almost feeling sorry for him after I saw those Fakebook photos of him on the Wyoming Arms site. He is obviously a very sick man. There is a dramatic deterioration from a few years ago. I have to suspect his support of Ukraine results from something besides a clear analysis of the situation. A victory for Ukraine is near impossible and would be real bad for the USA.

I am not so much a supporter of Russia as I am no friend of Ukraine who I view as an enemy of clean government in the USA and a supporter of politicians I despise.

I stole a sentence from you Hastings because I like and agree with it. It is perfect regarding the Russia/Ukraine situation.

Quote

I am not so much a supporter of Russia as I am no friend of Ukraine who I view as an enemy of clean government in the USA and a supporter of politicians I despise.

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I stole a sentence from you Hastings because I like and agree with it. It is perfect regarding the Russia/Ukraine situation.

Quote

I am not so much a supporter of Russia as I am no friend of Ukraine who I view as an enemy of clean government in the USA and a supporter of politicians I despise.

Here's a few more.

Can we assume you like and agree?

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

My money and more importantly my prayers are with Russia.

They have the advantage.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

I am praying for Russian victory and an end to this before the whole world gets involved. The Russian money I have I believe could be negotiated through Mexico but I am going to consider it a loan to Russia for now.

“We do not have ammunition. For us the situation in the East is not good. ”

Gaylensky - 03/25/2023

Originally Posted by Fubarski

“We do not have ammunition. For us the situation in the East is not good. ”

Gaylensky - 03/25/2023

BFD. The Burnsie Homo Zelensky needs no ammo. He and Burnsie have mouth.

Still don’t care

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Fubarski

“We do not have ammunition. For us the situation in the East is not good. ”

Gaylensky - 03/25/2023

BFD. The Burnsie Homo Zelensky needs no ammo. He and Burnsie have mouth.

We all know what the Ol Perv dreams about and how she tries to get ahead.

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Originally Posted by ...JaggedEyeballz

Originally Posted by 700LTR

Still don’t care

Then why do you care to let us know you don't care? Are you stupid enough to think we care that you don't care?

Nevermind, we don't care.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Originally Posted by Fubarski

“We do not have ammunition. For us the situation in the East is not good. ”

Gaylensky - 03/25/2023

BFD. The Burnsie Homo Zelensky needs no ammo. He and Burnsie have mouth.

We all know what the Ol Perv dreams about and how she tries to get ahead.

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Originally Posted by ...JaggedEyeballz

Hahaha, TFF. You stupidly thinking Zelensky would win proves you don't know schiett from shineola.

Originally Posted by ...JaggedEyeballz

Hahaha. Finally a good one, Burnsie.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns The Addled

Originally Posted by Mr_TooDogs

I stole a sentence from you Hastings because I like and agree with it. It is perfect regarding the Russia/Ukraine situation.

Quote

I am not so much a supporter of Russia as I am no friend of Ukraine who I view as an enemy of clean government in the USA and a supporter of politicians I despise.

Here's a few more.

Can we assume you like and agree?

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

My money and more importantly my prayers are with Russia.

They have the advantage.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

I am praying for Russian victory and an end to this before the whole world gets involved. The Russian money I have I believe could be negotiated through Mexico but I am going to consider it a loan to Russia for now.

You quoted me accurately and even though it is out of context you did not distort the meaning of what I previously wrote.

Are you getting medical care?

Originally Posted by Hastings

You quoted me accurately and even though it is out of context you did not distort the meaning of what I previously wrote.

Are you getting medical care?

Of couse I accurately quoted you. I don't lie.

But the Quisling says WHAT?

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

My money and more importantly my prayers are with Russia.

They have the advantage.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

I am praying for Russian victory and an end to this before the whole world gets involved. The Russian money I have I believe could be negotiated through Mexico but I am going to consider it a loan to Russia for now.

Oh, for Pete's sake, Burns. You've quoted that stuff Hastings said to you 50 times. Nobody cares.

Watch this:

Everybody that cares what Hastings said to Burns, raise your hand.

Watch this space. Nobody cares;.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Oh, for Pete's sake, Burns. You've quoted that stuff Hastings said to you 50 times. Nobody cares.

Watch this:

Everybody that cares what Hastings said to Burns, raise your hand.

Watch this space. Nobody cares;.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Oh, for Pete's sake, Burns. You've quoted that stuff Hastings said to you 50 times. Nobody cares.

Watch this:

Everybody that cares what Hastings said to Burns, raise your hand.

Watch this space. Nobody cares;.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by ...Strider4

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

You quoted me accurately and even though it is out of context you did not distort the meaning of what I previously wrote.

Are you getting medical care?

Of couse I accurately quoted you. I don't lie.

But the Quisling says WHAT?

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

My money and more importantly my prayers are with Russia.

They have the advantage.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

I am praying for Russian victory and an end to this before the whole world gets involved. The Russian money I have I believe could be negotiated through Mexico but I am going to consider it a loan to Russia for now.

Mr. Burns: Oh addled one, except for my $6000 dollar loan to Russia (which isn't much) I would imagine the majority of the 24HCF folks would feel the same as me and wouldn't be sending bail money or care packages if you did fall into Russian hands.

Not sure why you think the USA should antagonize a nuclear superpower that has in the recent past made friendly overtures to this country.

The USA has no reason to support Ukraine. And now we have China and Russia forming an anti-American alliance which will likely attract a lot of other countries.

All this intervening in other countries, debasing our currency, social equity crap is making us irrelevant. Mostly being broke will be what makes us irrelevant. Remember the saying about a broke man and a dead man being the same in that neither one can talk.

Get some rest and think about reconsidering this Russia/Ukraine thing.

I have good tanks.
Sometimes turrets fly off.
No problem, we can fix.

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Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

I have good tanks.
Sometimes turrets fly off.
No problem, we can fix.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

So, uh, Zelensky won, right?

Has Russia surrendered yet?

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

You quoted me accurately and even though it is out of context you did not distort the meaning of what I previously wrote.

Are you getting medical care?

Of couse I accurately quoted you. I don't lie.

But the Quisling says WHAT?

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

My money and more importantly my prayers are with Russia.

They have the advantage.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

I am praying for Russian victory and an end to this before the whole world gets involved. The Russian money I have I believe could be negotiated through Mexico but I am going to consider it a loan to Russia for now.

Mr. Burns: Oh addled one, except for my $6000 dollar loan to Russia (which isn't much) I would imagine the majority of the 24HCF folks would feel the same as me and wouldn't be sending bail money or care packages if you did fall into Russian hands.

Not sure why you think the USA should antagonize a nuclear superpower that has in the recent past made friendly overtures to this country.

The USA has no reason to support Ukraine. And now we have China and Russia forming an anti-American alliance which will likely attract a lot of other countries.

All this intervening in other countries, debasing our currency, social equity crap is making us irrelevant. Mostly being broke will be what makes us irrelevant. Remember the saying about a broke man and a dead man being the same in that neither one can talk.

Get some rest and think about reconsidering this Russia/Ukraine thing.

Here's another quisling to put on the deportation list.

Daily update: Russia is winning...."Russian Grind"

Direct Drive is stupid <bonus update>

Originally Posted by Hastings

Mr. Burns: Oh addled one, except for my $6000 dollar loan to Russia (which isn't much) I would imagine the majority of the 24HCF folks would feel the same as me and wouldn't be sending bail money or care packages if you did fall into Russian hands.
.

It's a far cry from sending bail money or care packages to wanting to actively run me down and throw me in Russian prison because you don't like what I say here on the Campfire.

You are an authoritarian Quisling as your posts prove. The other side of the Commie coin.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

If the Russians come looking for you I'll help them run you down.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

Johnny might ought to learn to like Russian prison food himself when we catch him and send him to them.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

My money and more importantly my prayers are with Russia.

They have the advantage.

Originally Posted by Hastings The Quisling

I am praying for Russian victory and an end to this before the whole world gets involved. The Russian money I have I believe could be negotiated through Mexico but I am going to consider it a loan to Russia for now.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Mr. Burns: Oh addled one, except for my $6000 dollar loan to Russia (which isn't much) I would imagine the majority of the 24HCF folks would feel the same as me and wouldn't be sending bail money or care packages if you did fall into Russian hands.
.

It's a far cry from sending bail money or care packages to wanting to actively run me down and throw me in Russian prison because you don't like what I say here on the Campfire.

Frankly, nobody really cares what you say on the Campfire. What we care about you doing shady deals with the Gov't and the Army, putting kit in the hands of Nazis and wasting our tax dollars & running up the federal debt.

Another thing that concerns us is the influence peddling going on between your friends and you.

I think you should man up and give full disclosure.

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

Originally Posted by ERK

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

the correct answer....bob

Without going off on a tangent about who's right and who's wrong or the suspected sexual proclivities of anyone who disagrees with me, the answer to the question in the original post is Zelensky and Biden. Those two will come out winners, filthy rich at the expense of the American taxpayer.

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

Yes or no will work as a response.

Regards

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

Do you believe in the concept of "consent of the governed"?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

Originally Posted by Bob_mt

Originally Posted by ERK

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

the correct answer....bob

Exactly. I hope the few who don't understand this is the majority opinion here are pretending and not really as stupid as they make out. Stop feeding those lackey trolls already.

As far as border sanctity goes in this context I liken it to a drunk extoling sobriety. Bit hypocritical.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

Do you believe in the concept of "consent of the governed"?

I can address you later.

Originally Posted by kenjs1

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

Originally Posted by Bob_mt

Originally Posted by ERK

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

the correct answer....bob

Exactly. I hope the few who don't understand this is the majority opinion here are pretending and not really as stupid as they make out. Stop feeding those lackey trolls already.

As far as border sanctity goes in this context I liken it to a drunk extoling sobriety. Bit hypocritical.

Oddly and probably baffling to you...I agree with ERK.

Originally Posted by ERK

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

That's a good attitude.

Originally Posted by cra1948

the answer to the question in the original post is Zelensky and Biden. Those two will come out winners, filthy rich at the expense of the American taxpayer.

For sure unless Russia gets tired of this and blows up the place.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

As far as a border issue over across the ocean with countries that have been at war for 2000 years, I don't care. Not something that can be solved by us.

We (The USA) have involved ourselves for over 100 years and only made things worse. And bankrupted ourselves.

Unfortunately, our "elected" folks in DC have made this our problem by their involvement in "nation-building" and their interference in the natural order of that region. Goes back a few administrations.

All attempts so far have been to keep up appearances and graft.

We used to be the first to negotiate and lead conflicts to the peace table.
Now, we are the first to write checks so a select few can make deposits.

Playing with fire. And there are not enough firetrucks on duty.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ERK

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

That's a good attitude.

Originally Posted by cra1948

the answer to the question in the original post is Zelensky and Biden. Those two will come out winners, filthy rich at the expense of the American taxpayer.

For sure unless Russia gets tired of this and blows up the place.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

As far as a border issue over across the ocean with countries that have been at war for 2000 years, I don't care. Not something that can be solved by us.

We (The USA) have involved ourselves for over 100 years and only made things worse. And bankrupted ourselves.

I simply asked a very simple question.

Yes or no?

Borders exist and are enforceable or they don't.

So, yes or no?

Oddly, it is kinda like the gender argument, male and female exist or they dont....

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Borders exist and are enforceable or they don't.

So, yes or no?

Oddly, it is kinda like the gender argument, male and female exist or they dont....

In this case, NO. And in most any case but our own national border, NO. And personally I'm not defending the liberal coastal cities of this country although I guess it would be necessary to not allow a beachhead.

So, as to your question which must deal with the situation at hand,NO.

HELL NO!!!

Thought about caring today, but nope.

Borders are fluid.
That is a fact proven time and time again throughout history.
Want a border? There is a cost to hold it.
Who pays the cost? Why do 3rd parties chip in?

The US has had a plan in place to aggravate and cut at the Achilles tendon of the bear for many years. Ukrainian speaking US citizens have been earmarked early in their lives in the US for USMA West Point, then given commands and trained in the highest artforms of combat. After years of active military service at the highest levels of command and conflict experience, they have been sent by the highest powers in our government (Executive, CIA, Pentagon, State Dept) to build the military of Ukraine and attempt to shape its leadership to democratic standards. That led to opening doors for illicit business and the manufacture of some pretty strange things, many of them could not be done stateside without scrutiny. It is no secret the largesse that has poured into the country, and the graft that is being paid out. The pace has increased.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Borders exist and are enforceable or they don't.

So, yes or no?

Oddly, it is kinda like the gender argument, male and female exist or they dont....

It's nothing like the gender argument. Borders are arbitrary lines superimposed on the geography of the planet. A border only exists as long as everyone agrees with it, and the interested parties can defend it.

In the current situation, Ukraine is unable to defend the border without a lot of help. But they decided to antagonize their bigger neighbor, who then no longer recognized the border. The only reason we got involved is so the political class can continue to profit from Ukrainian graft. And anyone supporting Ukraine (and our involvement) is tacitly supporting the graft.

There are two genders. They are determined by the combination of Xs and Ys. Not by the imagination of the mentaly I'll.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I believe if a Nation wants to maintain its borders it should't allow the globalists to manipulate its political autonomy.

Especially if those borders are next to Russia and the Nation with those borders decides to use its newfound association with the globalists to begin exterminating the ethnic Russians who live within its borders.

If you live in/near a bear's pissin' ground, don't fug with the bear. The bear has a long established reputation for protecting its domain.

Challenge it at you own peril.

I don’t care about the border security of any state but my own. Of course, I abstractly believe in the right of a state to have borders. However, it is just that, abstract. It is an entirely different thing as to whether a nation has any reasonable expectation of border security, the ability to maintain it, or the moral high ground in any dispute involving it. In short, there a million things that could impact those factors.

One may as well look at a fresh corpse and asked if it has the right to breathe air.

Basically, the poor stupid Ukranians believed that the globalists would protect it as it carried out its transgressions against ethic Russians who lived within its borders.

It's paid a big price to learn that the globalists are no match for the bear and those who are aligned with the bear.

Western Europe, who had developed a peaceful trade agreement with Russia has learned that the globalists will throw it under the bus in its agenda to spit in the bear's face.

So now the globalists have turned America in a homosexual/negro worshipping entity, it cut off supplies of energy from Russia to Western Europe,..and it's got America involved in a conflict with a nuclear power which has united the global south in a coalition which plans to eliminate the West from its sphere of influence and crash the U.S. Dollar.

Good job globalists!

You've killed the West and established a New World Order which is based in Russia and China.

I'm happy that I got to live in America before it was destroyed. I have some very fond memories of the place.

[Linked Image from blogger.googleusercontent.com]

Amen, MW.

Our Neonazi World Order Govt pays them to oversee us.

Lots of people helping Russian citizens by hosting tor bridges on their browser. That will allow Russian citizens to get around state censorship and have access to news reports outside official government channels.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Panama, Somalia, Vietnam, Yemen have borders? lol. what a clown show

The Insanity is revealed in the first 3 minutes

Originally Posted by 19352012

Some guys here usually have some actual knowledge from some military connections or something. Thanks

Chyna

The US should bring our democracy to this region

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

What are Army regulations for someone, say an AMU member, accepting "free" travel & hunts?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I do.

It's similar to the right to life. The right to life can be forfeited by some actions, such as committing murder.

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Panama, Somalia, Vietnam, Yemen have borders? lol. what a clown show

The left, Bidet and Rinos getting rich off the Nazis running Ukraine are much more concerned with its borders than ours.

Gee, I wonder why? Love of money more than love of America?

Fughkers are bleeding America down as fast as they can. Money out, Muxies in. That's why they hate Trump and also why they hate Putin.

Trump and Putin are taking the Nazi World Order down.

PTL, our prayers are answered. The satanic WEF and UN are screwed. Why? Trump and the Patriots are in control.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I do.

It's similar to the right to life. The right to life can be forfeited by some actions, such as committing murder.

Seems logical and rational.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ERK

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

That's a good attitude.

Originally Posted by cra1948

the answer to the question in the original post is Zelensky and Biden. Those two will come out winners, filthy rich at the expense of the American taxpayer.

For sure unless Russia gets tired of this and blows up the place.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

As far as a border issue over across the ocean with countries that have been at war for 2000 years, I don't care. Not something that can be solved by us.

We (The USA) have involved ourselves for over 100 years and only made things worse. And bankrupted ourselves.

Simple yes or no question posed to Bristoe but you can answer as well...

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I believe if a Nation wants to maintain its borders it should't allow the globalists to manipulate its political autonomy.

Especially if those borders are next to Russia and the Nation with those borders decides to use its newfound association with the globalists to begin exterminating the ethnic Russians who live within its borders.

If you live in/near a bear's pissin' ground, don't fug with the bear. The bear has a long established reputation for protecting its domain.

Challenge it at you own peril.

Superfluous...answer the question posed.

Yes or no on borders?

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

Find someone else to play with. Burns et al are retard enough for me. You’ve not posted anything yourself except dancing around asking questions, playing Columbo as I stated prior. You’re not as clever as you believe yourself to be.

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

Find someone else to play with. Burns et al are retard enough for me. You’ve not posted anything yourself except dancing around asking questions, playing Columbo as I stated prior. You’re not as clever as you believe yourself to be.

I'm not trying to play clever. I just want one of you to answer yes or no on the border question.

This isn't hard.

Then we can have an actual honest conversation, starting from a common point.

It is basic.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

Find someone else to play with. Burns et al are retard enough for me. You’ve not posted anything yourself except dancing around asking questions, playing Columbo as I stated prior. You’re not as clever as you believe yourself to be.

I'm not trying to play clever. I just want one of you to answer yes or no on the border question.

This isn't hard.

No it’s not hard, but you’re framing your questions to elicit an answer that will prove your hypothesis of hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

Find someone else to play with. Burns et al are retard enough for me. You’ve not posted anything yourself except dancing around asking questions, playing Columbo as I stated prior. You’re not as clever as you believe yourself to be.

I'm not trying to play clever. I just want one of you to answer yes or no on the border question.

This isn't hard.

No it’s not hard, but you’re framing your questions to elicit an answer that will prove your hypothesis of hypocrisy.

Ain't that weird?

All these smart guys afraid of a yes or no question.

A basic question at that, philosophically speaking.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

As do you. "Get back to you later" is a mealy mouth response to if you support the Concept of consent of the governed.

Yet here you are demanding a yes or no to your question.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

As do you. "Get back to you later" is a mealy mouth response to if you support the Concept of consent of the governed.

Yet here you are demanding a yes or no to your question.

I said I would get back to you. Here or another thread?

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

lol. and failing miserably again

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

lol. and failing miserably again

You didn't answer my question either...I guess ignorance is, truly, bliss.

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ERK

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

That's a good attitude.

Originally Posted by cra1948

the answer to the question in the original post is Zelensky and Biden. Those two will come out winners, filthy rich at the expense of the American taxpayer.

For sure unless Russia gets tired of this and blows up the place.

If Putin "..blows up the place..." do you think Zelensky is going to be there? If, for some reason, Putin follows through and crushes Ukraine, Zelensky will be long gone. He will be living in exile somewhere, living on a big, big stack of money. I think you're making the mistake of somehow thinking Zelensky is serious about fighting the Russians. He doesn't give a schitt. All these big actors are above the fray. It's just a show to keep money flowing from the US that he can then split up with the Biden cartel and possible Putin.

Originally Posted by cra1948

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ERK

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

That's a good attitude.

Originally Posted by cra1948

the answer to the question in the original post is Zelensky and Biden. Those two will come out winners, filthy rich at the expense of the American taxpayer.

For sure unless Russia gets tired of this and blows up the place.

If Putin "..blows up the place..." do you think Zelensky is going to be there? If, for some reason, Putin follows through and crushes Ukraine, Zelensky will be long gone. He will be living in exile somewhere, living on a big, big stack of money. I think you're making the mistake of somehow thinking Zelensky is serious about fighting the Russians. He doesn't give a schitt. All these big actors are above the fray. It's just a show to keep money flowing from the US that he can then split up with the Biden cartel and possible Putin.

Or his countrymen are being killed?

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Mr. Burns: Oh addled one, except for my $6000 dollar loan to Russia (which isn't much) I would imagine the majority of the 24HCF folks would feel the same as me and wouldn't be sending bail money or care packages if you did fall into Russian hands.

It's a far cry from sending bail money or care packages to wanting to actively run me down and throw me in Russian prison because you don't like what I say here on the Campfire.

Frankly, nobody really cares what you say on the Campfire. What we care about you doing shady deals with the Gov't and the Army, putting kit in the hands of Nazis and wasting our tax dollars & running up the federal debt.

Another thing that concerns us is the influence peddling going on between your friends and you.

I think you should man up and give full disclosure.

From the same idiotic post.

Originally Posted by ..Retarded TryHarder

Frankly, nobody really cares what you say on the Campfire.

Originally Posted by ..Retarded TryHarder

I think you should man up and give full disclosure.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I do.

It's similar to the right to life. The right to life can be forfeited by some actions, such as committing murder.

Seems logical and rational.

You propose a straw argument based upon irrelevant premise. So yes, logic alone will lead gullible fools down the path you wish. Rational people will see you for what you truly are, manipulative for sure, desperately misinformed no doubt. Or shamefully dishonest? Probably all three.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Mr. Burns: Oh addled one, except for my $6000 dollar loan to Russia (which isn't much) I would imagine the majority of the 24HCF folks would feel the same as me and wouldn't be sending bail money or care packages if you did fall into Russian hands.

It's a far cry from sending bail money or care packages to wanting to actively run me down and throw me in Russian prison because you don't like what I say here on the Campfire.

Frankly, nobody really cares what you say on the Campfire. What we care about you doing shady deals with the Gov't and the Army, putting kit in the hands of Nazis and wasting our tax dollars & running up the federal debt.

Another thing that concerns us is the influence peddling going on between your friends and you.

I think you should man up and give full disclosure.

From the same idiotic post.

Of course you want to obfuscate this. Your graft may be a criminal issue. Or a UCMJ issue for the recipients of your "free" (from your boss) hunts.

BTW, "full retard" is what you'll be if Feds get involved.

Originally Posted by Crash_Pad

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I do.

It's similar to the right to life. The right to life can be forfeited by some actions, such as committing murder.

Seems logical and rational.

You propose a straw argument based upon irrelevant premise. So yes, logic alone will lead gullible fools down the path you wish. Rational people will see you for what you truly are, manipulative for sure, desperately misinformed no doubt. Or shamefully dishonest? Probably all three.

Wanna start with premises?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

As do you. "Get back to you later" is a mealy mouth response to if you support the Concept of consent of the governed.

Yet here you are demanding a yes or no to your question.

I said I would get back to you. Here or another thread?

It's a yes or no question.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

As do you. "Get back to you later" is a mealy mouth response to if you support the Concept of consent of the governed.

Yet here you are demanding a yes or no to your question.

I said I would get back to you. Here or another thread?

It's a yes or no question.

As to consensual consent of the governed?

Yes.

Agents must enter into agreements for their safety...gasp...it's where borders come from.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

As do you. "Get back to you later" is a mealy mouth response to if you support the Concept of consent of the governed.

Yet here you are demanding a yes or no to your question.

I said I would get back to you. Here or another thread?

It's a yes or no question.

As to consensual consent of the governed?

Yes.

Don't get more mealy mouthed. Just yes or no. Don't add to or alter the question. Just answer the question I asked.

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Hastings

Mr. Burns: Oh addled one, except for my $6000 dollar loan to Russia (which isn't much) I would imagine the majority of the 24HCF folks would feel the same as me and wouldn't be sending bail money or care packages if you did fall into Russian hands.

It's a far cry from sending bail money or care packages to wanting to actively run me down and throw me in Russian prison because you don't like what I say here on the Campfire.

Frankly, nobody really cares what you say on the Campfire. What we care about you doing shady deals with the Gov't and the Army, putting kit in the hands of Nazis and wasting our tax dollars & running up the federal debt.

Another thing that concerns us is the influence peddling going on between your friends and you.

I think you should man up and give full disclosure.

From the same idiotic post.

Originally Posted by ..Retarded TryHarder

Frankly, nobody really cares what you say on the Campfire.

Originally Posted by ..Retarded TryHarder

I think you should man up and give full disclosure.

Looks like the Nyquil finally wore off. Get a good night sleep?

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

As do you. "Get back to you later" is a mealy mouth response to if you support the Concept of consent of the governed.

Yet here you are demanding a yes or no to your question.

I said I would get back to you. Here or another thread?

It's a yes or no question.

As to consensual consent of the governed?

Yes.

Don't get more mealy mouthed. Just yes or no. Don't add to or alter the question. Just answer the question I asked.

I literally said yes.

Are you dense?

I’ve answered your inane question that you think somehow proves your point about justifying our hundreds of billions of dollars wasted in Ukraine.

The only borders that make any difference to me are the borders of MY country that are being ignored by your leader, Biden.

Now that I’ve answered your question.. AGAIN, please return the favor and answer my questions…

Please tell me why is should give a flyingfuck about Ukrainian borders when my border and country is currently being invaded as well?

Why do you place the Ukrainian citizen above the American citizen?

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Columbo discovered the Socratic method and is trying it out on the ‘fire lol

Hardly. It's just most of you guys speak out of both sides of your mouth. Asking simple questions usually makes one think when your mouth talks you into a corner.

So yes or no from you?

As do you. "Get back to you later" is a mealy mouth response to if you support the Concept of consent of the governed.

Yet here you are demanding a yes or no to your question.

I said I would get back to you. Here or another thread?

It's a yes or no question.

As to consensual consent of the governed?

Yes.

Don't get more mealy mouthed. Just yes or no. Don't add to or alter the question. Just answer the question I asked.

I literally said yes.

Are you dense?

You modified the question.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

I’ve answered your inane question that you think somehow proves your point about justifying our hundreds of billions of dollars wasted in Ukraine.

The only borders that make any difference to me are the borders of MY country that are being ignored by your leader, Biden.

Now that I’ve answered your question.. AGAIN, please return the favor and answer my questions…

Please tell me why is should give a flyingfuck about Ukrainian borders when my border and country is currently being invaded as well?

Why do you place the Ukrainian citizen above the American citizen?

You assume a lot about me.

I asked if borders mean anything. You stated the US borders mean something to you. I'm sorry I had to ask questions to piss you off to the point you think I'm the enemy...but you FINALLY said borders mean something. Thx.

I answered your question, dassa.

With yes.

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Agents must enter into agreements for their safety...gasp...it's where borders come from.

Did the US military illegally and aggressively cross the border in Syria to take their oil?
Slava Ukraine

lol

Originally Posted by ribka

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Agents must enter into agreements for their safety...gasp...it's where borders come from.

Did the US military illegally and aggressively cross the border in Syria to take their oil?
Slava Ukraine

lol

Lol is correct. You don't understand what I'm asking. It is why you are gullible.

Regards

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I believe if a Nation wants to maintain its borders it should't allow the globalists to manipulate its political autonomy.

Especially if those borders are next to Russia and the Nation with those borders decides to use its newfound association with the globalists to begin exterminating the ethnic Russians who live within its borders.

If you live in/near a bear's pissin' ground, don't fug with the bear. The bear has a long established reputation for protecting its domain.

Challenge it at you own peril.

Superfluous...answer the question posed.

Yes or no on borders?

Do you see how obtuse you sound when you post like this?

Moving on, which is more important to you, national borders, or that just govt derives its power from the consent of the governed?

Russian will win in the end. They will win by attrition, they will just keep throwing bodies at Ukraine and eventually the Ukranie will run out of bodies to fight them. That's the way the Russians have won most of their wars.

Population
Ukraine
43,745,640 (July 2021 est.)

Russia
142,320,790 (July 2021 est.)

drover

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I believe if a Nation wants to maintain its borders it should't allow the globalists to manipulate its political autonomy.

Especially if those borders are next to Russia and the Nation with those borders decides to use its newfound association with the globalists to begin exterminating the ethnic Russians who live within its borders.

If you live in/near a bear's pissin' ground, don't fug with the bear. The bear has a long established reputation for protecting its domain.

Challenge it at you own peril.

Superfluous...answer the question posed.

Yes or no on borders?

Do you see how obtuse you sound when you post like this?

Moving on, which is more important to you, national borders, or that just govt derives its power from the consent of the governed?

Asking for an answer on an online forum is now obtuse?

Lol...

Borders derive from consent.

Do you not agree?

Obviously, you have a bone to pick with me.

Let's hash it out.

Originally Posted by dassa

Looks like the Nyquil finally wore off. Get a good night sleep?

I feel sad that the Putin Pufters don't have a life beyond posting on the Campfire.

I enjoy setting the Pufters right but I have lots of Irons in other fires and won't be here all day every day like you Putin Pufters.

You assign more emotion to this topic than is needed. You are welcome for the answer but I HAVE answered your question a couple times in the past so it’s not “pissed off” as much as it’s frustrating when your side ignores anything that doesn’t support your war-mongering position. You are NOT my enemy, at least I never felt that way, you are being obstuse and intentionally (I think) ignorant.

You have to admit that when you pro Ukraine crowd start chanting the same mantra as the MSM and your “pithy quips” are nothing more than regurgitated White House talking points you all start looking like a monolithic front in support of the democrat agenda.

I’ve stated my position ad nauseum here but the more time that goes by and the more the dead continue to pile up along with more HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS from OUR treasury the more I question the sanity of any supposed “conservative” that continues supporting Biden!

The very act of our meddling in Ukraine is the ANTITHESIS of CONSERVATIVE values! No self-respecting conservative can, with a straight face, support our meddling in Ukraine while concurrently considering themselves conservative.

You either support the democrats meddling mission and war in Ukraine and everything the USA has done there since at least 2014…..

Or

…..you don’t.

I DON’T. I am 100% America FIRST!……….. I don’t give a flyingfuck about Ukraine or Belarus or Georgia or Turkmenistan or any other former Soviet sh.ithole. I don’t give a flyingfuck about their borders! Read that one more time…I’ll type slow….I DON’T GIVE A FLYINGFUCK ABOUT SH.ITHOLE BORDERS 12,000 mile’s away.

The truth is that neither do you or your side. It’s all a ruse to further weaken our country by the left. The left knows what they are doing and the left knows that they can elicit support from the useful idiots (to the left) on the right. The left knows that there are some incredibly gullible, doe-eyed-idiots on the right as well as blood thirsty war mongers that have never seen a war that they didn’t approve of.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

You assign more emotion to this topic than is needed. You are welcome for the answer but I HAVE answered your question a couple times in the past so it’s not “pissed off” as much as it’s frustrating when your side ignores anything that doesn’t support your war-mongering position. You are NOT my enemy, at least I never felt that way, you are being obstuse and intentionally (I think) ignorant.

You have to admit that when you pro Ukraine crowd start chanting the same mantra as the MSM and your “pithy quips” are nothing more than regurgitated White House talking points you all start looking like a monolithic front in support of the democrat agenda.

I’ve stated my position ad nauseum here but the more time that goes by and the more the dead continue to pile up along with more HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS from OUR treasury the more I question the sanity of any supposed “conservative” that continues supporting Biden!

The very act of our meddling in Ukraine is the ANTITHESIS of CONSERVATIVE values! No self-respecting conservative can, with a straight face, support our meddling in Ukraine while concurrently considering themselves conservative.

You either support the democrats meddling mission and war in Ukraine and everything the USA has done there since at least 2014…..

Or

…..you don’t.

I DON’T. I am 100% America FIRST!……….. I don’t give a flyingfuck about Ukraine or Belarus or Georgia or Turkmenistan or any other former Soviet sh.ithole. I don’t give a flyingfuck about their borders! Read that one more time…I’ll type slow….I DON’T GIVE A FLYINGFUCK ABOUT SH.ITHOLE BORDERS 12,000 mile’s away.

The truth is that neither do you or your side. It’s all a ruse to further weaken our country by the left. The left knows what they are doing and the left knows that they can elicit support from the useful idiots (to the left) on the right. The left knows that there are some incredibly gullible, doe-eyed-idiots on the right as well as blood thirsty war mongers that have never seen a war that they didn’t approve of.

Do you think we should enforce our southern border?

No emotion needed. Just a yes or no.

Crossfire is spinning in his grave...ask miss lynn

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Care to not post Russian propaganda?

Jag,

Cheers against his own nation.

What a patriot!

Trust the science.
Deport the Russian sympathizers.
Send them to their Fuhrer.

Originally Posted by Direct_Drive

Trust the science.
Deport the Russian sympathizers.
Send them to their Fuhrer.

Yeah, I don't think you understand the US.

Are you from here?

This applies to contractors too, i.e. anyone who has a contract to train troops, etc. So, that's not only DOD employees, like soldiers, it's guys who supply tactical training too.

Quote

OSD EMPLOYEE INFORMATION & OVERVIEW
The following is a general summary of the gift laws and regulations. For details and information specific to your circumstances, contact your local ethics official.

What is a gift?

Generally, anything that has a monetary value is considered a gift.

Gift to DoD employee from outside source

With some exceptions, you may not accept a gift from:

1. Anyone who is giving the gift to you because of your Government position. Ask yourself if the gift would have been offered if you were not working for the Government. If the answer is no, then the gift is being offered because of your position; or.
2. A prohibited source. A prohibited source is anyone doing business with or seeking official action from DoD. It also includes any organization, the majority of whose members are prohibited sources.

Originally Posted by cra1948

Originally Posted by Hastings

Originally Posted by ERK

I don’t support the Nazi gov or Russia. Fug them all. Seems like it’s not really our problem. Edk

That's a good attitude.

Originally Posted by cra1948

the answer to the question in the original post is Zelensky and Biden. Those two will come out winners, filthy rich at the expense of the American taxpayer.

For sure unless Russia gets tired of this and blows up the place.

If Putin "..blows up the place..." do you think Zelensky is going to be there? If, for some reason, Putin follows through and crushes Ukraine, Zelensky will be long gone. He will be living in exile somewhere, living on a big, big stack of money. I think you're making the mistake of somehow thinking Zelensky is serious about fighting the Russians. He doesn't give a schitt. All these big actors are above the fray. It's just a show to keep money flowing from the US that he can then split up with the Biden cartel and possible Putin.

Man, thats really, really good, just what color is that koolaid?

Originally Posted by jaguartx

Hurastan times yet again, you believe that crap?

Originally Posted by drover

Russian will win in the end. They will win by attrition, they will just keep throwing bodies at Ukraine and eventually the Ukranie will run out of bodies to fight them. That's the way the Russians have won most of their wars.

Population
Ukraine
43,745,640 (July 2021 est.)

Russia
142,320,790 (July 2021 est.)

drover

And .... seven months of trying to take Bakhmut.... population of 70K...
Those Russians sure are something!

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

You assign more emotion to this topic than is needed. You are welcome for the answer but I HAVE answered your question a couple times in the past so it’s not “pissed off” as much as it’s frustrating when your side ignores anything that doesn’t support your war-mongering position. You are NOT my enemy, at least I never felt that way, you are being obstuse and intentionally (I think) ignorant.

You have to admit that when you pro Ukraine crowd start chanting the same mantra as the MSM and your “pithy quips” are nothing more than regurgitated White House talking points you all start looking like a monolithic front in support of the democrat agenda.

I’ve stated my position ad nauseum here but the more time that goes by and the more the dead continue to pile up along with more HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS from OUR treasury the more I question the sanity of any supposed “conservative” that continues supporting Biden!

The very act of our meddling in Ukraine is the ANTITHESIS of CONSERVATIVE values! No self-respecting conservative can, with a straight face, support our meddling in Ukraine while concurrently considering themselves conservative.

You either support the democrats meddling mission and war in Ukraine and everything the USA has done there since at least 2014…..

Or

…..you don’t.

I DON’T. I am 100% America FIRST!……….. I don’t give a flyingfuck about Ukraine or Belarus or Georgia or Turkmenistan or any other former Soviet sh.ithole. I don’t give a flyingfuck about their borders! Read that one more time…I’ll type slow….I DON’T GIVE A FLYINGFUCK ABOUT SH.ITHOLE BORDERS 12,000 mile’s away.

The truth is that neither do you or your side. It’s all a ruse to further weaken our country by the left. The left knows what they are doing and the left knows that they can elicit support from the useful idiots (to the left) on the right. The left knows that there are some incredibly gullible, doe-eyed-idiots on the right as well as blood thirsty war mongers that have never seen a war that they didn’t approve of.

Do you think we should enforce our southern border?

No emotion needed. Just a yes or no.

I’ll play. Yes on borders. Can we start with ours?

With that said, we need Ukraine to come help us secure ours. It’s been proven we can’t or won’t do it ourselves. Should I hold my breath while we wait for the troops and the money to come rolling in? I mean it’s only fair……..right?

We can get involved with the consent of the governed. Without that consent, actions taken are always for some ulterior motive.

We shouldn’t be involved. Russia was not an issue until WE made it an issue.

Clyde

Originally Posted by Tyrone

This applies to contractors too, i.e. anyone who has a contract to train troops, etc. So, that's not only DOD employees, like soldiers, it's guys who supply tactical training too.

Quote

OSD EMPLOYEE INFORMATION & OVERVIEW
The following is a general summary of the gift laws and regulations. For details and information specific to your circumstances, contact your local ethics official.

What is a gift?

Generally, anything that has a monetary value is considered a gift.

Gift to DoD employee from outside source

With some exceptions, you may not accept a gift from:

1. Anyone who is giving the gift to you because of your Government position. Ask yourself if the gift would have been offered if you were not working for the Government. If the answer is no, then the gift is being offered because of your position; or.
2. A prohibited source. A prohibited source is anyone doing business with or seeking official action from DoD. It also includes any organization, the majority of whose members are prohibited sources.

$$$

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Jag,

Cheers against his own nation.

What a patriot!

This is why you and your Pro-Ukrainian side are not taken seriously……unless you know something that the rest of us don’t JaguarTX is NOT Russian or Ukrainian…..therefore he CAN’T be cheering on his “own nation”.

Ukraine is NOT the USA…Ukraine has never been a part or protectorate of the USA….Ukraine is NOT THE USA…Ukraine IS UKRAINE RUSSIA IS RUSSIA and neither of those sh.itholes are Jag’s “own nation” so he can’t be “cheering” against his own nation.

The truth and fact of the matter is that by supporting Biden and the hundreds of billions he’s sent to Ukraine to the detriment of the USA you’re working AGAINST the best interests of the USA. By supporting the Biden regime’s agenda for drawing out and prolonging the war you’re working AGAINST America and her citizens. By supporting the Biden regime’s continuation of Obongo-Klinton-Nuland’s 2014 Maidan CIA organized (unsuccessful) coup you are supporting the despotic meddling in the sovereign affairs of a democratically elected president! The CIA/USA under Obongo fomented a violent and illegal insurrection and attempted coup because they didn’t like the guy the Ukrainians elected and instead wanted a yes-man puppet so that they could protect their money and arms laundering operations.

The entire clusterfuck that we’re seeing today is the DIRECT consequence for our attempt to topple the democratically elected president at the time and install a puppet government favorable to the west. This bullshitt has absolutely NOTHING to do with “borders” and everything to do with 2 bullies (USA-Russia) fighting over the nerds (Ukraine) lunch money. We caused unnecessary death and chaos in Ukraine…..that’s why this began, not borders.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Jag,

Cheers against his own nation.

What a patriot!

This is why you and your Pro-Ukrainian side are not taken seriously……unless you know something that the rest of us don’t JaguarTX is NOT Russian or Ukrainian…..therefore he CAN’T be cheering on his “own nation”.

Ukraine is NOT the USA…Ukraine has never been a part or protectorate of the USA….Ukraine is NOT THE USA…Ukraine IS UKRAINE RUSSIA IS RUSSIA and neither of those sh.itholes are Jag’s “own nation” so he can’t be “cheering” against his own nation.

The truth and fact of the matter is that by supporting Biden and the hundreds of billions he’s sent to Ukraine to the detriment of the USA you’re working AGAINST the best interests of the USA. By supporting the Biden regime’s agenda for drawing out and prolonging the war you’re working AGAINST America and her citizens. By supporting the Biden regime’s continuation of Obongo-Klinton-Nuland’s 2014 Maidan CIA organized (unsuccessful) coup you are supporting the despotic meddling in the sovereign affairs of a democratically elected president! The CIA/USA under Obongo fomented a violent and illegal insurrection and attempted coup because they didn’t like the guy the Ukrainians elected and instead wanted a yes-man puppet so that they could protect their money and arms laundering operations.

The entire clusterfuck that we’re seeing today is the DIRECT consequence for our attempt to topple the democratically elected president at the time and install a puppet government favorable to the west. This bullshitt has absolutely NOTHING to do with “borders” and everything to do with 2 bullies (USA-Russia) fighting over the nerds (Ukraine) lunch money. We caused unnecessary death and chaos in Ukraine…..that’s why this began, not borders.

Your assumptions make everything else wrong.

Nice try.

Worked in the yard for a few hours. Still don’t care.

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

This bullshitt has absolutely NOTHING to do with “borders” and everything to do with 2 bullies (USA-Russia) fighting over the nerds (Ukraine) lunch money. We caused unnecessary death and chaos in Ukraine…..that’s why this began, not borders.

It takes a special kind of beaten wife syndrome the think we made the Orc invade Ukraine.

If the Orcs had stayed home they would not have Finland and Sweden in NATO and would be selling energy to Europe at much higher prices without having a massive brain drain from mobilization and emigration.

Putin intended to ethnically cleanse Ukraine from the get go so any idea of appeasement is silly.

Putin Intenes to Cleanse Ukraine.

Quote

Russian President Vladimir Putin planned a “total cleansing” of Ukraine with “house-to-house terror” to subdue its people, leaked spy documents reportedly show.

Chilling emails from within Russia’s FSB intelligence service talk about orders “from the very top” for civilians to be taken to concentration camps in a bid to conquer Ukraine.

The emails were leaked by a source within the FSB to Russian human rights activist Vladimir Osechkin, who founded Gulagu, a website that highlights the conditions in the country’s prison system, the US Sun reported.

The leak comes a week after the International Criminal Court charged Putin with war crimes on charges related to an alleged scheme to deport Ukrainian children to Russia.

Let wabi eat his supper and think...

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by AcesNeights

This bullshitt has absolutely NOTHING to do with “borders” and everything to do with 2 bullies (USA-Russia) fighting over the nerds (Ukraine) lunch money. We caused unnecessary death and chaos in Ukraine…..that’s why this began, not borders.

It takes a special kind of beaten wife syndrome the think we made the Orc invade Ukraine.

If the Orcs had stayed home they would not have Finland and Sweden in NATO and would be selling energy to Europe at much higher prices without having a massive brain drain from mobilization and emigration.

Putin intended to ethnically cleanse Ukraine from the get go so any idea of appeasement is silly.

Putin Intenes to Cleanse Ukraine.

Quote

Russian President Vladimir Putin planned a “total cleansing” of Ukraine with “house-to-house terror” to subdue its people, leaked spy documents reportedly show.

Chilling emails from within Russia’s FSB intelligence service talk about orders “from the very top” for civilians to be taken to concentration camps in a bid to conquer Ukraine.

The emails were leaked by a source within the FSB to Russian human rights activist Vladimir Osechkin, who founded Gulagu, a website that highlights the conditions in the country’s prison system, the US Sun reported.

The leak comes a week after the International Criminal Court charged Putin with war crimes on charges related to an alleged scheme to deport Ukrainian children to Russia.

His best hit the airports on day one, most forget that...

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I believe if a Nation wants to maintain its borders it should't allow the globalists to manipulate its political autonomy.

Especially if those borders are next to Russia and the Nation with those borders decides to use its newfound association with the globalists to begin exterminating the ethnic Russians who live within its borders.

If you live in/near a bear's pissin' ground, don't fug with the bear. The bear has a long established reputation for protecting its domain.

Challenge it at you own peril.

Superfluous...answer the question posed.

Yes or no on borders?

Do you see how obtuse you sound when you post like this?

Moving on, which is more important to you, national borders, or that just govt derives its power from the consent of the governed?

Asking for an answer on an online forum is now obtuse?

Lol...

Borders derive from consent.

Do you not agree?

No, demanding the answer in the form you dictate, and after you get an answer, demanding the answer again is obtuse.

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by dassa

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

Originally Posted by Jcubed

Originally Posted by Bristoe

It seems as if this is Ukraine's last big push. The NATO countries have donated about all the equipment it can spare. Even little, poor, Slovakia donated four MIG-29s.

It should take Russia a couple of weeks to rid Ukraine of it's most recent arrivals of equipment and then the peace talks will get serious.

The only question to be answered at this point is if Putin is still open to them. It very well could be that he's decided to complete the job before he leaves Ukraine.

I have never asked you specifically...

Do you believe in the sanctity of a nation's borders? Seems like a simple question.

I believe if a Nation wants to maintain its borders it should't allow the globalists to manipulate its political autonomy.

Especially if those borders are next to Russia and the Nation with those borders decides to use its newfound association with the globalists to begin exterminating the ethnic Russians who live within its borders.

If you live in/near a bear's pissin' ground, don't fug with the bear. The bear has a long established reputation for protecting its domain.

Challenge it at you own peril.

Superfluous...answer the question posed.

Yes or no on borders?

Do you see how obtuse you sound when you post like this?

Moving on, which is more important to you, national borders, or that just govt derives its power from the consent of the governed?

Asking for an answer on an online forum is now obtuse?

Lol...

Borders derive from consent.

Do you not agree?

No, demanding the answer in the form you dictate, and after you get an answer, demanding the answer again is obtuse.

Demanding?

It's an online forum. If people wish to have discourse and answer a question, that's their choice.

Would you like to enter into discourse?

How old are you?

Regards

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by Tyrone

This applies to contractors too, i.e. anyone who has a contract to train troops, etc. So, that's not only DOD employees, like soldiers, it's guys who supply tactical training too.

Quote

OSD EMPLOYEE INFORMATION & OVERVIEW
The following is a general summary of the gift laws and regulations. For details and information specific to your circumstances, contact your local ethics official.

What is a gift?

Generally, anything that has a monetary value is considered a gift.

Gift to DoD employee from outside source

With some exceptions, you may not accept a gift from:

1. Anyone who is giving the gift to you because of your Government position. Ask yourself if the gift would have been offered if you were not working for the Government. If the answer is no, then the gift is being offered because of your position; or.
2. A prohibited source. A prohibited source is anyone doing business with or seeking official action from DoD. It also includes any organization, the majority of whose members are prohibited sources.

$$$

Oh, no. Value, Giggles, value. Actually anything worth over $20.

How much do guided hunts go for?

You claimed all those guys use your rifles too. That would be retail value on those.

BTW, what was the name of the AMU guy(s)?

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

Originally Posted by dassa

Looks like the Nyquil finally wore off. Get a good night sleep?

I feel sad that the Putin Pufters don't have a life beyond posting on the Campfire.

I enjoy setting the Pufters right but I have lots of Irons in other fires and won't be here all day every day like you Putin Pufters.

Remember when you were chanting about binary and such awhile back? The fact that you classify everyone who disagrees with you as a Putin pufter shows how simple minded you are.

Originally Posted by Tyrone

Originally Posted by JohnBurns

$$$

Oh, no. Value, Giggles, value. Actually anything worth over $20.

How much do guided hunts go for?

You claimed all those guys use your rifles too. That would be retail value on those.

BTW, what was the name of the AMU guy(s)?

Any hunt with me would start at $20,000. Big Bucks. Much Value.