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Hi Guys and Gals and both closet Bud Light drinkers still on the forums...

If one were to stack gold and silver...what would be the end goal for a decent stack?

I was thinking 60 ounces of each...big enough to be stacked, but small enough to hide/carry.

What are your goals and how do you determine them?

Of course we know that no one on this forum would have any real precious metals nor guns after the great boating accident of 2021...still, I'd like to know your insights to learn from others.

Thanks,

John
For me, it's 75% gold and 25% silver, in terms of dollars into it. That will result in a much greater number of ounces of silver than gold, the idea being that the ratio of silver to gold is much higher than it should be right now, and in fact when metals go parabolic, silver usually quickly catches up to gold, meaning that most of your profits will come from silver, i.e., it will go from, e.g., 100 to 1 to, e.g., 20 to 1 on their way up to their peaks, giving your silver the best profit making potential, so you want lots of it in terms of ounces, vs gold.

Silver has the better profit potential due to the tendency described above, while gold prices tend to be more stable (less volatile).
I do more silver than gold by probably 50 to 1. Silver is much better for using to barter if needed.
Originally Posted by NoDak
I do more silver than gold by probably 50 to 1. Silver is much better for using to barter if needed.
That, too. Gold is a store of wealth, while silver functions better as day to day money for regular folks during a monetary collapse.
A good goal would be 5% to 10% of your personal net wealth in P.M.'s.
As Hawk said silver is the better play today, when the gold to silver $ ratio drops to around 30 to 1 , sell the silver and buy gold
Also, while junk silver used to be the best deal in town, that's no longer the case. You will pay a huge premium on it today, due to their becoming harder to find.

Your best bet in silver today is one ounce generic rounds (not coins from national mints, and certainly not US Silver Eagles), and 10 oz or 1 kilo bars.

These are the best for getting into and getting out of, vs national mint coins or junk.
So I've been watching more youtube concerning stacking philosophies...Bald Guy Money...that he guestimated the stacks of ownership based upon nongovernment stackers. So real people:

Silver
Top 1% = 406-541 ounces
Top 5% = 132-176 ounces
Top 20% = 41-54 ounces

Gold
1% = 164 ounces
5% = 53 ounces
20% = 16 ounces

Of course mean median and modes will bias these numbers, but they are nice ballparks to strive for...I was just guessing a fist full for easy transport is what most non-addicted people would do.

I'm looking for more information on platinum too, but that seems more speculative than either gold or silver.

As a noobie precious metals interest...I am not confidant in bars and stuff and would like to stick with coins.

Should I just go with Britain and Krugerands in Silver since they are the lowest to accumulate ounces or go for like old peace dollars or for American Eagles or what?
What's your purpose in having PMs? Investing, or prepping?
To bribe boarder guards.
Originally Posted by dassa
What's your purpose in having PMs? Investing, or prepping?

It seems like a fun hobby with some investment potential.
Premiums on eagles are very high. Sometimes you can get things like krugarrands, Britannias, or philharmonic for not much more than generic rounds so that makes them not too bad of way to go.

I like 90% junk too but the premiums are too high right now. The other government minted stuff like Brits, Krugers, and Phil's aren't a bad way to go in this market but the lowest spread is generic stuff.

The generic rounds sell easy and have the lowest premiums. I should buy more generic but I mostly have eagles, maples, Phil's, and 90%.

These are a good deal today.

https://sdbullion.com/2023-1-oz-silver-britannia-coin-king-charles

https://bullionexchanges.com/tube-of-20-2023-armenia-1-oz-noahs-ark-silver-coin-500-dram

Bb
You guys must be rich. If I could buy a few ounces of silver I'd buy a box of Hammer Hunter 7mm 90 grain bullets.
It's a scam people. Gold and silver are constantly being manipulated by the banks. You would do better in investing in brass and copper - for when the SHTF.
Originally Posted by bigwhoop
It's a scam people. Gold and silver are constantly being manipulated by the banks. You would do better in investing in brass and copper - for when the SHTF.

I received some gold from my grandfather in 1970. It was worth about $40/ounce then.

The spot paper price is manipulated...but there are times when it shoots up to account for massive currency creation.

Gold price has not kept up with currency printing the past 5 years, that is for sure. Might be due for a reset.

Burley Boy's advice above is good.
Originally Posted by bigwhoop
It's a scam people. Gold and silver are constantly being manipulated by the banks. You would do better in investing in brass and copper - for when the SHTF.
Of course it's manipulated. Wait until they lose control. How long are they going to keep this ponzi scheme going? I like to have physical assets. Property, tools, guns, food, firewood. Yes, especially brass,lead,primers. How much precious metals should I have? What ever amount you don't want to lose.
Originally Posted by Twopatch
How much precious metals should I have? What ever amount you don't want to lose.


My thought exactly.

Once I had the house and 300 acres paid off and a year's worth of food and a lifetime of ammo and such, I started converting excess fiat into gold/silver.
I kind of wish I would have bought a few tunes when I posted those links. The Noah's asks were $3.25 over spot any quantity but that deals already gone. The brits were $3.99 over any quantity but that's gone too.

I've got my home paid off, food storage, plenty of ammo and reloading components so stacking is an ok hobby for me. I like having some hard assets these days. My stack is less than 15% of my net worth and I really don't trust stocks right now. Most of my ira is in cds and recently bonds. I spread the cds out among several different banks at $5000 to $10,000 per bank. I'm averging just under 5% on them which doesn't keep up with bidenflation but it's pretty safe and better than nothing.

My recent regret was not buying $75k of tesla at the end of last year. I had it typed in but didn't press go. Other than that I've not had too much interest in stock. Although last year I should have bought in the maker of ozembic when my Dr told me how well it worked for weight loss. I occasionally get a stock idea but have a hard time pulling the trigger anymore. I've been in hunker down mode for 2 years.

Bb
Invest in lead.......first. Save your 22LR fired casings, too.

Filters, iodine, bleach, antibiotics.......second.

Guess what's third.
I usually buy gold and silver when everybody else is selling. Everybody’s buying right now.
Anyone do business with Moneymetals?
Are they considered trustworthy, any others that would be a better choice?
How do you guys store this stuff, generally speaking? In plastic?
who have you known or found that has built real wealth from precious metal investing that didn't involve mining? real wealth isn't 250k in a 401k, LOL. I mean took their money invested in gold or silver and made enough to retire comfortable. that means at least 100k per year in retirement income.

I bet you can't find anyone. investing in gold or silver is great but its not a strategy for wealth. its a strategy to hedge against inflation or other things. its a store of value outside the banking system. gold and silver is investing for appreciation. you're speculating its going to be worth more in the future. Thats gambling in my book.
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
who have you known or found that has built real wealth from precious metal investing that didn't involve mining? real wealth isn't 250k in a 401k, LOL. I mean took their money invested in gold or silver and made enough to retire comfortable. that means at least 100k per year in retirement income.

I bet you can't find anyone. investing in gold or silver is great but its not a strategy for wealth. its a strategy to hedge against inflation or other things. its a store of value outside the banking system. gold and silver is investing for appreciation. you're speculating its going to be worth more in the future. Thats gambling in my book.
Five thousand year track record.
I don't buy it to build wealth. I buy it to preserve wealth. I like to diversify and have hard assets, guns, gold, ammo, real estate, food storage. I tell people not to own more then 10-15% of their net worth in metals. Lately I just don't trust stock.

Bb
The ultra wealthy have always have gold and art for preservation. You can pack both up and take them with you when the peasants revolt and take over your castle.
Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
who have you known or found that has built real wealth from precious metal investing that didn't involve mining? real wealth isn't 250k in a 401k, LOL. I mean took their money invested in gold or silver and made enough to retire comfortable. that means at least 100k per year in retirement income.

I bet you can't find anyone. investing in gold or silver is great but its not a strategy for wealth. its a strategy to hedge against inflation or other things. its a store of value outside the banking system. gold and silver is investing for appreciation. you're speculating its going to be worth more in the future. Thats gambling in my book.
Are you really saying that gold and silver aren't real wealth, but federal reserve notes are?
If you like Gold, buy all the silver you can afford and when it reaches parity with gold after having been rigged for 150 or more years and Trump/Putin/Xi /Salmon and the BRICS destroy the COMEX and FED then sell the silver for $2000/Oz and then you can buy a LOT of gold.

Yeah, I know, but we have a short supply of silver and it's required for all modern electronics.

Clue: I think there is a reason JESUS CHRIST drank from a silver Chalice. whistle
Originally Posted by Burleyboy
I don't buy it to build wealth. I buy it to preserve wealth. I like to diversify and have hard assets, guns, gold, ammo, real estate, food storage. I tell people not to own more then 10-15% of their net worth in metals. Lately I just don't trust stock.

Bb

Yeah, that's why i screwed up and didn't buy more gold at $280/Oz when it dropped from $800 years ago when i told my brother to because i had bought at $600.

Its a piss poor way to make money. whistle
Money changers still doing what they've always done..
Originally Posted by NoDak
I do more silver than gold by probably 50 to 1. Silver is much better for using to barter if needed.

True That.
In 2009 I had over 6000 ounces of silver. Then I did the Dave Ramsey get out of debt plan and sold a lot of it at around $14 an ounce. A year or two later it hit $48 an ounce. Every once in a while it makes a run. I felt that one was coming but listen to Dave. At least I'm out of debt and have several green plastic boxes to store stuff in. I sold 1000 ounces in one day at a gunshow in SLC back then. Came home with $14k of which maybe $500 was profit.

Bb
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