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Posted By: Bristoe Not how to train a Doberman - 05/25/23
A lesson was learned. But not by the Doberman.

https://twitter.com/4Mischief/status/1661733646804590593
I wonder how long it will take that dog to get the taste out of his mouth.
Posted By: Steve Re: Not how to train a Doberman - 05/25/23
"Who's a good boy!?!"
Originally Posted by Bristoe
A lesson was learned. But not by the Doberman.

https://twitter.com/4Mischief/status/1661733646804590593
Can't stop laughing. Those folks shouldn't be allowed to have a dog.
Good dog..
dey be stoopid
Puerto Rican for breakfast.
Posted By: Stix Re: Not how to train a Doberman - 05/25/23
FAFO
Who's a good doggie... 🤣🤣🤣
As much as I enjoyed it, and got a good laugh at the consequences of their screw up, they are actually not far off from the correct way to protection train a guard breed of dog.

The very first step in so training a protection dog is to teach them lesson number one. Lesson number one is a two parter, i.e., 1) There are bad people in this world who will do you or your master harm, and 2) that he (i.e., the dog), has teeth and jaws, and that bad guys can be effectively dealt with by their prodigious application.

That was the stage they were working on there, assuming it wasn't just by accident that they were doing stage one correctly.

The mistakes they made were 1) not using a proper leash and holding on to it, 2) the agitator was not using a sleeve and/or proper protective gear.

And, assuming the agitator was known to the dog, that would constitute mistake number three. Never use an agitator that your dog knows or might see in public.

My own Doberman, of happy memory, was protection trained, and I was his handler throughout the process, learning much about how it's done. He had three different instructors (all experienced and professional police and security dog trainers) who either operated as agitators or directed the agitators.

PS Also, the pretraining should include the out (i.e., "let go?) command. This should be solid before protection training begins.
Posted By: jwp475 Re: Not how to train a Doberman - 05/25/23
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
As much as I enjoyed it, and got a good laugh at the consequences of their screw up, they are actually not far off from the correct way to protection train a guard breed of dog.

The very first step in so training a protection dog is to teach them lesson number one. Lesson number one is a two parter, i.e., 1) There are bad people in this world who will do you or your master harm, and 2) that he (i.e., the dog), has teeth and jaws, and that bad guys can be effectively dealt with by their prodigious application.

That was the stage they were working on there, assuming it wasn't just by accident that they were doing stage one correctly.

The mistakes they made were 1) not using a proper leash and holding on to it, 2) the agitator was not using a sleeve and/or proper protective gear.

And, assuming the agitator was known to the dog, that would constitute mistake number three. Never use an agitator that your dog knows or might see in public.

My own Doberman, of happy memory, was protection trained, and I was his handler throughout the process, learning much about how it's done. He had three different instructors (all experienced and professional police and security dog trainers) who either operated as agitators or directed the agitators.


Exactly 💯
Posted By: gunzo Re: Not how to train a Doberman - 05/25/23
I never cared much for a Doberman, but that one gave me joy.
Originally Posted by gunzo
I never cared much for a Doberman, but that one gave me joy.
LOL.
Posted By: LBP Re: Not how to train a Doberman - 05/25/23
Originally Posted by Winchester21
I wonder how long it will take that dog to get the taste out of his mouth.

That poor dog! I’ve always said that why police dogs are always licking their azz, trying to get the taste out of their mouths.
Posted By: LBP Re: Not how to train a Doberman - 05/25/23
Originally Posted by gunzo
I never cared much for a Doberman, but that one gave me joy.

Me too, such a good boy!!
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
As much as I enjoyed it, and got a good laugh at the consequences of their screw up, they are actually not far off from the correct way to protection train a guard breed of dog.

The very first step in so training a protection dog is to teach them lesson number one. Lesson number one is a two parter, i.e., 1) There are bad people in this world who will do you or your master harm, and 2) that he (i.e., the dog), has teeth and jaws, and that bad guys can be effectively dealt with by their prodigious application.

That was the stage they were working on there, assuming it wasn't just by accident that they were doing stage one correctly.

The mistakes they made were 1) not using a proper leash and holding on to it, 2) the agitator was not using a sleeve and/or proper protective gear.

And, assuming the agitator was known to the dog, that would constitute mistake number three. Never use an agitator that your dog knows or might see in public.

My own Doberman, of happy memory, was protection trained, and I was his handler throughout the process, learning much about how it's done. He had three different instructors (all experienced and professional police and security dog trainers) who either operated as agitators or directed the agitators.

PS Also, the pretraining should include the out (i.e., "let go?) command. This should be solid before protection training begins.
Since they did none of that, and only agitated the dog, it’s safe to assume that it was simply a POS tormenting a dog.

#nottraining
It pays dividends to be smarter than the dog.
Stupid games, stupid prizes.
Is the dog not supposed to know, don't bite his own handler?
Posted By: Mike_S Re: Not how to train a Doberman - 05/25/23
Hurt in all the right places I bet.
I wonder how much he wants for it?
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