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I wonder how long it will take that dog to get the taste out of his mouth.
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Can't stop laughing. Those folks shouldn't be allowed to have a dog.
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Who's a good doggie... 🤣🤣🤣
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As much as I enjoyed it, and got a good laugh at the consequences of their screw up, they are actually not far off from the correct way to protection train a guard breed of dog.
The very first step in so training a protection dog is to teach them lesson number one. Lesson number one is a two parter, i.e., 1) There are bad people in this world who will do you or your master harm, and 2) that he (i.e., the dog), has teeth and jaws, and that bad guys can be effectively dealt with by their prodigious application.
That was the stage they were working on there, assuming it wasn't just by accident that they were doing stage one correctly.
The mistakes they made were 1) not using a proper leash and holding on to it, 2) the agitator was not using a sleeve and/or proper protective gear.
And, assuming the agitator was known to the dog, that would constitute mistake number three. Never use an agitator that your dog knows or might see in public.
My own Doberman, of happy memory, was protection trained, and I was his handler throughout the process, learning much about how it's done. He had three different instructors (all experienced and professional police and security dog trainers) who either operated as agitators or directed the agitators.
PS Also, the pretraining should include the out (i.e., "let go?) command. This should be solid before protection training begins.
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As much as I enjoyed it, and got a good laugh at the consequences of their screw up, they are actually not far off from the correct way to protection train a guard breed of dog.
The very first step in so training a protection dog is to teach them lesson number one. Lesson number one is a two parter, i.e., 1) There are bad people in this world who will do you or your master harm, and 2) that he (i.e., the dog), has teeth and jaws, and that bad guys can be effectively dealt with by their prodigious application.
That was the stage they were working on there, assuming it wasn't just by accident that they were doing stage one correctly.
The mistakes they made were 1) not using a proper leash and holding on to it, 2) the agitator was not using a sleeve and/or proper protective gear.
And, assuming the agitator was known to the dog, that would constitute mistake number three. Never use an agitator that your dog knows or might see in public.
My own Doberman, of happy memory, was protection trained, and I was his handler throughout the process, learning much about how it's done. He had three different instructors (all experienced and professional police and security dog trainers) who either operated as agitators or directed the agitators. Exactly 💯
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I never cared much for a Doberman, but that one gave me joy.
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I never cared much for a Doberman, but that one gave me joy. LOL.
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I wonder how long it will take that dog to get the taste out of his mouth. That poor dog! I’ve always said that why police dogs are always licking their azz, trying to get the taste out of their mouths.
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I never cared much for a Doberman, but that one gave me joy. Me too, such a good boy!!
Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.
Will Munny: We all got it coming, kid.
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As much as I enjoyed it, and got a good laugh at the consequences of their screw up, they are actually not far off from the correct way to protection train a guard breed of dog.
The very first step in so training a protection dog is to teach them lesson number one. Lesson number one is a two parter, i.e., 1) There are bad people in this world who will do you or your master harm, and 2) that he (i.e., the dog), has teeth and jaws, and that bad guys can be effectively dealt with by their prodigious application.
That was the stage they were working on there, assuming it wasn't just by accident that they were doing stage one correctly.
The mistakes they made were 1) not using a proper leash and holding on to it, 2) the agitator was not using a sleeve and/or proper protective gear.
And, assuming the agitator was known to the dog, that would constitute mistake number three. Never use an agitator that your dog knows or might see in public.
My own Doberman, of happy memory, was protection trained, and I was his handler throughout the process, learning much about how it's done. He had three different instructors (all experienced and professional police and security dog trainers) who either operated as agitators or directed the agitators.
PS Also, the pretraining should include the out (i.e., "let go?) command. This should be solid before protection training begins. Since they did none of that, and only agitated the dog, it’s safe to assume that it was simply a POS tormenting a dog. #nottraining
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Is the dog not supposed to know, don't bite his own handler?
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Hurt in all the right places I bet.
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