May build "Papa Bear" as a Cheslight

...from these guys... https://www.baysidejoinery.com/

VERY ROUGH PRELIMINARY... Just thinking outloud...





"Papa Bear" will be a dedicated carpentry shop with a small guest studio above...

Had Laura work a sketch to visualize some of the elements I will be putting together...



And a basic shop drawing for material take-offs and fabrication details...

I like it. Vaguely Monticello inspired?

Nice shop drawings. Did you sneeze? LOL

Always hated that, spend hours working on a set of detailed shops with a good old-fashioned # 2-1/2 pencil and a scale, then one of the bastards sneaks up on ya'.

Tater chips probably...

It is only a working (fabrication) sketch.

We won't actually be doing plans... don't need them. No permits required... No bank loan... Just a building being built by men on fair exchange Capitalism.

We ain't much on kissing the Emperor's ring round here.

Have you got enough height figured in the lower shop to put in a decent dust collector system?
Looking good.

Osky

We called our great grampa Papa Bear.

…on the inlaw’s side

He was kind of an ass hole But I ended up with many of his snap on, proto and sk tools.

6x19+/- Timber joists (primary) and 6x12 (secondary)... leaves me 9'-2" clear (bottom chord of the joist) and 10'-6" to the underside of the floor (12/4 T&G White Pine (probably)).

Not sure if I will do dust collection... probably not. Big French doors 3 O'clock and 9 O'clock and a leaf blower kinda thing.

If I set the columns on piers or Sono tubes... it be easy enough to raise the height 8"-12".

Placed the order ($12,500) an hour ago for 14k+ BF of lumber to build Papa Bear.

Unreal how low the Pro Desk at HD got bulk prices for me...

$0.43 BF on 2 x 8 x 16s SYP???

Fugg, that is unreal CHEAP...

Laura's XLS cut and paste...



*$12.5k was for others hacks as well... not just the dimensional lumber.

*Oops... Couple of blanked out quantities... call it 16k BF

That is cheap!!! Hope your HD actually supplies decent, straight boards! Ones around here sell alot ot absolute garbage and I try to avoid having them pick the boards, rather take the time to do it myself, but understand that would be quite impractical in your case.

Oooh doggie...

These builds sure do appreciate in value...

Just listed 6 hours ago.

Looks like a great project. Too many corners, though. Every time I lose something, it always turns up in a "corner" somewhere.

Not liking the look cash. Doesn't quit fit the landscape imo.

I respect that opinion... stay tuned...

This is a 6 month turn and burn.

Mine since replaced.

Roughing out the Secondary Joists...







Roughing out the center column also...



Roof panels (another job)... mine are MUCH BIGGER...



Save the link below iffing you want to follow along... I made it "Shareable"

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hUaRCrbMV9QoLFs46

Tag

Nice work[esp for an illiterate hillbilly]!

10' clear to the bottom of joists... 11'7" to the ceiling...

11'+ ceiling 2nd floor...



Mechanically distressing the SYP...

Lookin good👍👍

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Think I am going to add a Fire Pole...



If anyone has any 22'+/- brass or SS they want to part with... Thanks

Were those fabrication photos in the Bayside Joinery shop?

Tag. This is absolutely incredible.

Correct Jeff...

Lots of twists and turns in the telling...

They lost 100% of everything a years or three ago to a fire... Insurance denied claim.

A bunch more stuff as well... but we are helping them come back huge... hopefully.

Even the landlord is part of the solution (i.e. rock bottom rent).

Outstanding community.

I did them a 20' x 20' cabin design just last week that can leave their shop on a bumper pull trailer (you install)... that will sell at $15k... 10" x 10" x 10'/12' columns, 6" x 19" beams (that will be another post in a few months).

Edit... anyone driving the Florida Keys can see the purple ChesLight just after the 7 mile bridge (I think I have that right).

This is Bayside’s shop, or yours?

This is for your west va property correct?

Their shop... but I am an unusual client.

I volunteer labor and architecture there...

Kinda solve problems that come up... tweek efficiencies etc.

Bought them a 25" Shaper/Molder last month... cuts the dados... gang rips... saves a boat load of time.

They benefit... I benefit... kinda thing.

Correct Sir...



"Papa Bear" will be a dedicated carpentry shop with a small guest studio above...

This is some VERY impressive craftsmanship to go with a challenging design. Atta boy, Leonard!

Any final house plans yet?

LOL...

Hell... I ain't even got the road in to Papa Bear. Then 42 yard of concrete up a mountain 7.8 CY at a time... one load a day max...

Simple answer is yes I did... but I chitcanned it (terrible terrible design)... https://photos.app.goo.gl/BUqiTG7drn9Er6Dq6

The site is a tad rough yet...



But free rocks... all a man could ever eat...

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No matter how a man looks at life...

It is always a whole lotta fun... or a whole lotta work...

Or both.

😂👍👍

Making the 6" x 19" Primary Joists...

Wood chips be a flying...

Is this on the backside of North Fork Mountain?

No Sir...

If you fell you need to know the mountain... please drop me a Private message...

No man we are good, I think where I seen sink hole cabin and thought smoke hole cabin got me confused lol.

I got a big ass sink hole on the mountain... That is where the name came from... Might come up with a better name later.

It must get its shear strength from being octagon. A lot of openings. For a shop, I’m a fan of the clear story.

Looks like you could crack the window and shoot a deer from up there.

This is the center column.

The 2nd floor joists (6" x 19") bear on top of that column.

Danny asked me how much weight that column could bear...

Assuming 9k PSI compressive strength of SYP (Southern Yellow Pine)... ON AVERAGE SAMPLES TAKEN...

1.35 million pounds.

Slenderness Ratio would be maybe (pure guess) half of that... and the control criteria... SO only 675,000 pounds...

61" glue-up



I am having fun...

SORRY I POST TOO MUCH...

Been busy at Rick's shop while my computers got overhauled...

Couple of pics of the parts and pieces we have built this winter so far... Lotta fun...

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Also built the two Summer beams for "Mama Bear"... 6.5" wide x 19" tall and 20 feet long.

And a crazy strong flooring system for "Baby Bear" with a pre-finished SYP ceiling...

Dang right! Exceptional working knowledge of materials on display.

Thanks for the update on this cool project.

Milling up a bunch of eastern cedar as an interior veneer...







Hopefully... to offset the effects of the bean chili... I do love so...

That is a good sized cedar tree. I’ve only milled a few that would look to be bigger.

Working out the roof panels...

They will be crane set...

LIKE

Widow walk...



Load out is a coming...



Spring is near...

👍👍👍

Back from lightin' them injectors... my Bride, 4 hounds, bourbon, the Bay, a fine cigar... and a Golden Winged Warbler hat...



And NO ONE can stop me...

Hell ya

Haha! Atta boy!

What bay you settin’ beside?

Looks kingly!

Chesapeake... Sir.

Outstanding.

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BTW... The cigar is a Lewinsky...

If you must know...

Geez

Looks like you have some awesome projects!

I’m surprised you got it lit.

A fantastic thread, through and through.

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Looking good Cash, don't know how I missed the update



Uh, ummmmmm ......... OK

Rick is building these Cheslights for several customers at the same time...

This is NOT mine... Mine is all wood.

But overall this is the same size.

This one will be in Chincoteague, VA



That sheen is fiberglass and epoxy.

Secondary Rafters...





12 total...

Two of the roof panels will be massive dormers...

AND...

Laura made "Papa Bear" cookies fo me an da boys...



Updated pics on Papa Bear and the tow 20' x 20' cottages...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/hUaRCrbMV9QoLFs46

Nice

Gearing up...

"Papa Bear" parts are nearing completion...

Stay tuned for more pics...

Standing on the table saw at Bayside.

About 1/2 my stuff is already in storage.

Finishing out the balance next few weeks...

👍👍keep us posted

Papa Bear = Jer Bear

Second load ready to roll out in the AM...





In all truthfulness, these are the parts for the two 20x20 cottages that I am also building.

- Four 12" x 12" x 12' columns

- Eight 20' Summer beams

- 22 Rafters.

Eight+/- loads total... regarding parts.

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Good thread! I wished I lived near. Would enjoy seeing the assembly . Are you getting any twisting of the columns after install ? Do you know the moisture content of the wood prior to glue up ?

No, he has no idea. He's doing all of this on a wing and a prayer.

You should stop using Google to learn things, and stick with being a fedboi.

We use a poly adhesive (https://purchaseadhesives.com/products/polyurethane-adhesive-solfre2-3161) it is moisture activated (identical to Gorilla glue). The wood is kiln dried before building the beams.

Internal blocking or EPS foam keep the XY axis very very stable.

From a L/240 or L/360 perspective these are as structural as LVLs or Lams.