Absolutely. No complaints about legitimate service dogs.

Those animals are a big help to a lot of people. But the system is clearly being abused. I've seen the difference they can make with some special needs kids and wouldn't want to see them lose their animals. Usually dogs. I don't know what the answer is. Seems we always have someone who ruins things for everyone.

I know for sure there are motels and hotels that do not allow animals. Would this be a violation of the ADA? A motel owner ought to be allowed to keep animals out.

Emotional support animal =/= service animal

I know for sure there are motels and hotels that do not allow animals. Would this be a violation of the ADA? A motel owner ought to be allowed to keep animals out.

Which Animals Count as Service Animals in Louisiana?

In Louisiana, a service animal is a dog who is trained to do work or tasks for someone with a disability, whether physical or mental. A service dog might be a guide dog, a hearing dog, a mobility dog, an autism service dog, a seizure alert dog, a dog that provides assistance during a medical crisis, or a dog that assists people (including veterans) with post-traumatic stress disorder or traumatic brain injuries.

Under the ADA, a service animal is a dog (or in some cases, a miniature horse). In addition to guide dogs and hearing dogs, here are some examples of service animals that must be allowed into public accommodations under the ADA:

psychiatric service animals, which help their handlers manage mental and emotional disabilities by, for example, interrupting self-harming behaviors, reminding handlers to take medication, checking spaces for intruders, or providing calming pressure during anxiety or panic attacks
seizure alert animals, which let their handlers know of impending seizures, and may also guard their handlers during seizure activity, and
allergen alert animals, which let their handlers know of foods or other substances that could be dangerous (such as peanuts).


Neither the ADA nor Louisiana's service animal law includes therapy dogs or what some people call "emotional support animals": animals that provide a sense of safety, companionship, and comfort to those with psychiatric or emotional disabilities or conditions. Although these animals often have therapeutic benefits, they are not individually trained to perform specific tasks for their handlers. Under the ADA and Louisiana law, owners of public accommodations are not required to allow emotional support animals, only service animals. These laws also don't apply to pets.

"... Under the ADA and Louisiana law, owners of public accommodations are not required to allow emotional support animals, only service animals. ..."

Don't know about Louisiana, but I know there has been alot of hoopla with people taking their "ESA" onto airplanes!
The airlines "were" allowing it.
Then people starting bringing pigs, snakes, lizards, etc.
Not sure airlines still allow ESA's.

On a flight from Tucson, AZ to DFW, the young lady in the window seat placed a bag at her feet. Then a clawed, black paw came out of the bag! It was a cat. She and the cat have a Facebook page all about their travels and activities. She and her cat were quite interesting.
No, the cat wasn't an ESA.

You mostly see "therapy" dogs (animals?) at retirement and nursing homes and healthcare facilities. Their "job" is just to be soft, warm and friendly. Nonresponsive and nonverbal people will quite often respond to a therapy animal.

When my service dog is wearing his vest, he will drink, but he WILL NOT eat until we remove his vest.
An ADA certified "service animal" will not eat while "on duty"! It's part of their training as a "service dog".
Idiot people WILL try to distract your dog with treats. They think they are being cute. I've had them try.

Service Animals were defined in 2011 as Service DOGS...only exception is mini-horses for the blind. Emotional Support Animals are a SCAM on their best day and other than rentals theres no legal accommodation given them.

The Service Dog thing has been so abused by people putting a vest on their pets that I can honestly say Ive only seen one real Service Dog in the last 3 years. I used to train them..I kinda know what to look for and 99% of what Im seeing are fakes.

People try and mess with mine every now and then. I had a dude tell me my service dog wasn't actually a service dog and was an emotional support dog or whatever, and was kicking us out of the restaurant. I was getting more and more irritated, but my dog was looking at me like "bro let's just gtfo of here and go home". Damn dog was right. Those emotional support people really screw things up for the rest of us.

Service Animals were defined in 2011 as Service DOGS...only exception is mini-horses for the blind. Emotional Support Animals are a SCAM on their best day and other than rentals theres no legal accommodation given them.

The Service Dog thing has been so abused by people putting a vest on their pets that I can honestly say Ive only seen one real Service Dog in the last 3 years. I used to train them..I kinda know what to look for and 99% of what Im seeing are fakes.

@ingwe

I was at a photo kiosk making some photos. It was in the back corner of a Walgreens. My service dog (Rotweiller) was lying quietly, soaking up the cool from the tile floor.
I hear the front door open and instinctively turn to look.
A sort of chubby chick sees my dog and breaks into a run.
I quickly got him to his feet and stepped between her and the dog. The flying tackle nearly knocked me down!
She looked up at me smiling...and I realized she was a "functional, special needs" from a nearby home. Fat boy got some big hugs and a young special needs kid (probably +/-20, hard to tell) got a big treat.
As much as I brush/bathe him, he sheds hair....BAD!
Poor kid was absolutely coated with hair when she left, grinning from ear to ear!

The old man is 11 years old and depends on me now about as much as I depend on him! LOL! I haven't had him out in about 2 years now. He has hip problems and can't get in the truck and I can't lift him!
There won't be another service dog. I'll just go to a wheelchair or walker.

In Montana Sheep are considered Service Animals .

Apparently, the guy couldn't get a Komodo Dragon.

Less people have been bitten by Alligator service animals than any other breed.

https://www.9news.com/article/news/...507-54574d61-9b71-4f56-a8b1-e2628b6c4943

In a just world only the blind get an assistance animal in a public space...no ifs, no buts, and no maybes.

It's all bull crap. Animals of any kind shouldn't be allowed in stores or public places at all. If you can't function properly in society, keep you azz at home. Your rights end where mine begin.

It's sad people's lives are so empty they have to drag their damn pets everywhere.

It's all bull crap. Animals of any kind shouldn't be allowed in stores or public places at all. If you can't function properly in society, keep you azz at home. Your rights end where mine begin.

It's sad people's lives are so empty they have to drag their damn pets everywhere.

I was in a Dr Office waiting room. Big gal in there waiting wearing a moo-moo had a little chihuahua with a Service Dog vest on. Same cheap vest you can get off of Amazon for $12.

Anyway, dog under her chair would bark, lunge, go apeshît whenever another patient would come in. After getting it calmed down, it would sit there all bug-eyed and shiver and whine. Occasionally it would snap out and commence to furiously licking its azz-hole and munching fleas.

Oh but yall got your little vest thingies, so that makes it OFFICIAL!! LOL

It's all bull crap. Animals of any kind shouldn't be allowed in stores or public places at all. If you can't function properly in society, keep you azz at home. Your rights end where mine begin.

What problems have genuine service dogs caused for you?

They're dogs.

For starters.

What problems have genuine service dogs caused for you?

I've stayed a couple of times at the Battle Rock Motel in Port Orford Oregon and that lady will not let a dog stay at her place

Where does the right of someone that has to have a dog with them everywhere they go, end and the right to be left alone begin?

Besides an attention whore, what kind of weirdo needs a reptile for emotional support?

Where have you been when a real service dog wouldn't leave you alone?

I don’t have enough time to tell you and you don’t have enough time to listen. It is impossible to go anywhere in public that some jackass doesn’t have a dog on a leash or even loose and that boundary of personal space gets invaded.

Where does his right to comfort exceed mine and everyone else’s right to be left unmolested?

I don’t have enough time to tell you and you don’t have enough time to listen. It is impossible to go anywhere in public that some jackass doesn’t have a dog on a leash or even loose and that boundary of personal space gets invaded.

Where does his right to comfort exceed mine and everyone else’s right to be left unmolested?

Where have you been when a real service dog wouldn't leave you alone?

There are other legitimate disabilities that service dogs cover. They may not be obvious, but if the dog is well-trained and behaves (like a real service dog always is) it's really none of anyone else's business.

Besides an attention whore, what kind of weirdo needs a dog/cat/hamster/gerbil/whatever for emotional support?

That's the guy's point.

The easiest way to flush out the scammers is to ask them what disability the dog is trained in. They pause, heehaw around for awhile then just admit it is their ESA.

That, sir, is illegal. Only a crass a-hole would ask that question.
It's none of your business what the disability is or what the dog is trained for.
My dog is trained for a specific chore....and he performs it admirably! ....and has, several times!

It's like the door gnomes at Walmart that ask to see my receipt as I leave.
I politely tell them, "No." and proceed.
I've yet to be run down or arrested or searched!

Actually by ADA law you can be asked two questions:

Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?

What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?

I wonder if I need an Emotional Support dog?

Actually by ADA law you can be asked two questions:

Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?

What work or task has the dog been trained to perform?

I wonder if I need an Emotional Support dog?

Care to name a few.


Because I am only aware of guide dogs being legitimate use.

Already been covered on the first page by Valsdad.

Tell that to a vet with PTSD.

That would be a douche move. I doubt you'd do it but let me ask you this. If the dog is well-trained and behaves, why is the person's disability any of your business?

That would be a douche move. I doubt you'd do it but let me ask you this. If the dog is well-trained and behaves, why is the person's disability any of your business?

Say someone has "ptsd". What exactly does a "service dog" do for their "ptsd"?

I met an Iraq vet hiking the Appalachian trail. He got Fugged up with ptsd fighting in Falluga. One of the things the service dog did was wake him up from his reoccurring nightmares. Real service dogs are cool, they are 100% focused on their owners.

Because they’re not well-trained because most aren't legitimate. I’ve maybe seen 2 legit service dogs in my life.

I don’t want to hear someone’s slobbering dog panting in a restaurant while I fish its hairs out of my food while some allergic kid has a sneezing fit.

I had to sit next to some idiot on a plane for 6 hours who had a “service cat” that yowled the entire way from Seattle to Tampa. Thats a comfort animal? Gimme a break.

I met an Iraq vet hiking the Appalachian trail. He got Fugged up with ptsd fighting in Falluga. One of the things the service dog did was wake him up from his reoccurring nightmares. Real service dogs are cool, they are 100% focused on their owners.

Say someone has "ptsd". What exactly does a "service dog" do for their "ptsd"?

, I think it's over-diagnosed because a mini-industry has sprung up around it.

That would be a douche move. I doubt you'd do it but let me ask you this. If the dog is well-trained and behaves, why is the person's disability any of your business?

Why do you put PTSD in quotes? You think it's bogus?

Benefits to vets with PTSD are well-docunentded and easy to look up. Personally, I think it's over-diagnosed because a mini-industry has sprung up around it.

But I'm OK with that because anyone who put on a uniform and went to war because my country asked them to deserves consideration and I'll cut them some slack. And if they have a properly-trained service dog it won't be a problem anyway.

Yeah it's a douche move to fùck with a vet with PTSD because you "don't like dogs "

Just own it.

Dog woke the guy up in the middle of a nightmare?

Sounds very useful.

Color me a douche.

Don't have to, you're doing a great job of it yourself.

I work with a vet with PTSD. He has a dog and he says it really helps.

Having never been at war and put in situations that could cause PTSD, I don't feel like I'm in a position to judge him.

Apparently, without having met the guy and knowing jack schidt about him, you do.

Congratulations.

I don’t give a fugk about your friend.

I don’t give a fugk if somebody is a veteran.

I don’t give a fugk if a person is a “first responder.”

I don’t give a fugk if you’re a nurse.

I don’t give a fugk if you’re a school teacher.

I don’t give a fugk if your family member “died of COVID.”

Leave your fugking dog at home.


-Douche Deflave

I didn’t press for details on every aspect that dog might benefit him and I don’t remember if he gave any more.

Is there anyone you do give a fugk about besides yourself?

Almost forgot, I don't give a fugk about what you think is important, or who you give a fugk about.

flave, is the God of All CATFISH, All mouth no brains, he's so tough he makes other CATFISH look like minnows, flave is the RAMBO of CATFISH, he will be here before long to tell all us peons how wonderful he is. Rio7

Grow the fugk up.

flave, I'm a old man but whipping your ass would be like walking over a field of bare tittys,iv'e kicked 10 little asss wholes like you out of my way just to get to a fight, it would be my pleasure to tear you little chicken wing off when and where?? Rio7

LOL

You've kicked 10 little ass wholes to get to a fight, as often as you've walked over a field of bare tittys.

LOL, irony exemplified.

flave, I'm a old man but whipping your ass would be like walking over a field of bare tittys,iv'e kicked 10 little asss wholes like you out of my way just to get to a fight, it would be my pleasure to tear you little chicken wing off when and where?? Rio7

He’s a Texan lol.