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Posted By: Tyrone The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/05/23
Recently I've come in contact with a bunch of people who strongly support abortion. I'll admit there are a few "abortion Barbies" out there, but for the most part, they strike me as some of the ugliest people you have ever seen. And they are FREAKY too. Anything goes with them.

I can't for the life of me figure that out. Why would people who you'd think would have to tie a pork chop around their neck just to get a dog to play with them be such big supporters of abortion & all that is LGBT?

And they are meaner than sinus infections too.
Posted By: kwg020 Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/05/23
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Recently I've come in contact with a bunch of people who strongly support abortion. I'll admit there are a few "abortion Barbies" out there, but for the most part, they strike me as some of the ugliest people you have ever seen. And they are FREAKY too. Anything goes with them.

I can't for the life of me figure that out. Why would people who you'd think would have to tie a pork chop around their neck just to get a dog to play with them be such big supporters of abortion & all that is LGBT?

And they are meaner than sinus infections too.
It's all they have in the toolbox. Pretty looks and a pleasant personality didn't land in their A/O. They are just trying to make everyone else as miserable as they are. I will say, after 6 years of working in a high school, any girl that wants to look attractive can be attractive. They have to choose to do it. Lose some weight, change their clothes, exercise and develop a healthy attitude and it's possible. The healthy attitude will make even those who have marginal looks, attractive to someone.

Apparently, that is just too difficult for some. You see the results.

kwg
Posted By: Jeff_O Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/05/23
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice with some boundaries, personally, which describes most of the good-lookin’, kind, folks I know. Certainly, to be fair, not all of them. I have great empathy for both sides of this one. It’s a brutal topic with no clean end of the turd to grab. Pick your poison.
Posted By: irfubar Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/05/23
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice with some boundaries, personally, which describes most of the good-lookin’, kind, folks I know. Certainly, to be fair, not all of them. I have great empathy for both sides of this one. It’s a brutal topic with no clean end of the turd to grab. Pick your poison.

Your mother should have had an abortion....
Posted By: rainshot Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/05/23
It has become fashionable for a variety of reasons. They framed the argument around women’s rights. “You can’t tell me what to do with my body “ they are all over the place on defining life. As we have drifted away from religion it has no more stigma so it’s fashionable.
All the arguments are moot because before Roe abortion was legal in a few states. Planned Parenthood has been trying to legalize it nationally since it was founded by Margaret Sanger. She was a racist snd believed in eugenics and population control. It was continually brought before the courts waiting for a sympathetic Supreme Court and they finally got it with William Rinquist and his famous “penumbra “.
Posted By: High_Noon Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/05/23
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice with some boundaries, personally, which describes most of the good-lookin’, kind, folks I know. Certainly, to be fair, not all of them. I have great empathy for both sides of this one. It’s a brutal topic with no clean end of the turd to grab. Pick your poison.

I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.

- Ronald Reagan
My issue with abortion isn't necessarily because it's the obvious killing of another life. My issue is where the fùck is the fathers rights? That's half of his too.

Furthermore, when a woman doesn't want the responsibility of a child, she can kill it with no consequences but if a man doesn't want the responsibility of a child, he's labeled a deadbeat, wages garnished, license suspended, and jailed. Women don't want the government to legislate them but want the government to legislate men.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
A complete lack of moral standards makes advocating for Abortion easy.
Posted By: 12344mag Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice with some boundaries, personally, which describes most of the good-lookin’, kind, folks I know. Certainly, to be fair, not all of them. I have great empathy for both sides of this one. It’s a brutal topic with no clean end of the turd to grab. Pick your poison.


Look at that, a pedophile that has boundaries.......
Posted By: shrapnel Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice with some boundaries, personally, which describes most of the good-lookin’, kind, folks I know. Certainly, to be fair, not all of them. I have great empathy for both sides of this one. It’s a brutal topic with no clean end of the turd to grab. Pick your poison.


I love how idiots claim "it's the mother's choice".

The only difference in an aborted fetus and a 80 year old man is time. Why not give the mother the same option and let her shoot any kids that are disappointing. The only difference is time...
Posted By: JoeMama Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
I would like to point out that slave owners told abolitionists to bugger-off. Their argument was that the opinion of abolitionists didn't count because they didn't have slaves, never had slaves and never would have slaves.

Following this line of reasoning, Pro-Abortion people must find the freeing of the slaves by abolitionists to be reprehensible.
Posted By: Scotty Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Can't tell a woman what to do with her body, but she can kill her baby and that is ok.
Let's ALL be honest. Abortion is a convenient solution to an inconvenient problem.
And an abomination to mankind.
Posted By: irfubar Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Originally Posted by Winchester21
Let's ALL be honest. Abortion is a convenient solution to an inconvenient problem.
And an abomination to mankind.

Unfortunately true..... morality is dead
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Religion doesn’t really figure in to my objections to abortion; I see it as an unnatural, brutal, violent solution for someone’s lack of responsibility. With all the birth control options out there, including Plan B pills that prevent a pregnancy after unprotected sex, available over the counter or from Amazon, there seems little reason to undergo an invasive surgical procedure. Late-term abortions and the so-called partial-birth abortions are just ghastly, cruel acts of violence. It boggles my mind how anyone can be in favor of those. Medical science has developed miraculous methods to help couples conceive a child and also of protecting a fetus from various maladies in the womb, yet there’s an entire industry built around killing them.

Fathers’ rights are another case of injustice. The father has no say in the choice whether to abort, and yet he’s responsible for the child’s support if the pregnancy goes full-term. A pregnant woman can hold him hostage either way, threatening to kill his child on the one hand, or keeping him on a financial string if she has the child. A man really needs to think about that before squirting his seed into some nut-job.
Originally Posted by Scotty
Can't tell a woman what to do with her body, but she can kill her baby and that is ok.
True - babies HAVE no rights - kill 'em all!
At least according to current thinking.
Posted By: gunchamp Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Originally Posted by rainshot
It has become fashionable for a variety of reasons. They framed the argument around women’s rights. “You can’t tell me what to do with my body “ they are all over the place on defining life. As we have drifted away from religion it has no more stigma so it’s fashionable.
All the arguments are moot because before Roe abortion was legal in a few states. Planned Parenthood has been trying to legalize it nationally since it was founded by Margaret Sanger. She was a racist snd believed in eugenics and population control. It was continually brought before the courts waiting for a sympathetic Supreme Court and they finally got it with William Rinquist and his famous “penumbra “.
She should have spit him down the shower drain
Posted By: killerv Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
These babies are seen as lesser human beings and property to dispose of if you wish. Sort of like slavery. And the left is cool with that.
I'm pro-choice. Give the kid the choice. Mom can register the unborn child as a potential abortion. Then when the kid is, say 10 or 12, he/she can make the choice of whether to be euthanized.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
The same leftist that promote abortion with all of their might are also the same group that tried to mandate the shot for every last one of us. They are also the same group calling for children to be forced to take the covid shot. So where is the so called "rights of the mother and her body" in regard to this? I fully understand the will not listen to reason of any kind because they are all psychopaths.

Abortion is something that someday I truly believe our nation will be judged for by almighty God!
In 1916 Planned Parenthood was conceived to contain the black population explosion.

Today black Americans make up 13.6% of the population but account for 40% of abortions in the US.

So I would suggest that abortions have worked as intended.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
In 1916 Planned Parenthood was conceived to contain the black population explosion.

Today black Americans make up 13.6% of the population but account for 40% of abortions in the US.

So I would suggest that abortions have worked as intended.
Genocide is what that's called.
Posted By: reivertom Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
It has become another way for society's misfits and geeks to feel like they are part of the "cool kids". Add this on to Socialism/Communism, CRT, Climate Change, Just Stop Oil, BLM, and Antifa. People with self loathing can fill their empty hole up with this garbage instead of a religion.
Considering that globally this year alone, we as a human race have aborted 37+ million children, I have to believe that somewhere in all those dead children,over decades, a few of them could have been the answer to a ton of world issues.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Benjamin Franklin may have been aborted in his day.
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
In 1916 Planned Parenthood was conceived to contain the black population explosion.

Today black Americans make up 13.6% of the population but account for 40% of abortions in the US.

So I would suggest that abortions have worked as intended.
Margaret Sanger founded The American Birth Control League which later became Planned Parenthood. Sanger was a crusader for birth control but was adamantly anti-abortion. As a nurse, she saw many serious cases of damage to women by back alley abortions. She hated abortions and realized that legal birth control was the only way to end the practice. In her time, most forms of birth control were illegal and she fought to get them legal. She was successful in getting a number of laws reversed to make contraceptives legal. She worked closely with several black organizations to bring birth control to blacks. PP didn't get seriously into abortions until after her death.
She was into eugenics which is the study of improving the human genome, largely by excluding 'inferior' gene pools. While she worked with black organizations, I don't doubt that, as a eugenist, she considered them to be inferior.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
These Marxists have a lot of sympathy for the Devil.

"We've got to have legal abortion to save women from back-alley abortions." That's like saying we have to save muggers from getting shot.
at the local library the other day, a pretty decent gal had a table set up outside with clipboards and petitions to support 'choice'. Controls are pretty tight here in FL and the infanticide maniacs are trying to put abortion on demand into the state Constitution via the amendment process.
I tried to just walk by, but she stopped me and asked if I would add my name to the list. I smiled at her, and told her we held similar thoughts on the issue of what to do with the cute but unwanted, but that I was in a rush to get to Home Depot and buy a brick to put in the burlap bag full of kittens I was going to drop off the bridge. Took her a few seconds to figure that out. She called me an azzhole. I called her a homicidal infant murderer.
Bet she won't be asking more old bearded white males to sign her garbage. lol
Posted By: RickyD Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Most likely, she did.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice with some boundaries, personally, which describes most of the good-lookin’, kind, folks I know. Certainly, to be fair, not all of them. I have great empathy for both sides of this one.
There seems to be a huge divide between the purple-haired whackos who view abortion rights as a key to their survival and Joe/Jill Sixpack who understands abortion is murder but favors abortion within limits just to keep the whackos from going postal.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Sam, you certainly have a way with words! laugh
Posted By: richj Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Multiply Chicago by 10 if abortion was NOT an option
Posted By: MickeyD Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice.....
I'd be more supportive of pro choice if it wasn't someone else's body and life that was being destroyed!
When a woman gets pregnant she instantly becomes a mother. Her choice is to either be the mother of a living child or a dead one.
When a mother chooses to kill her child (born or unborn) it is the taking another's life....it's murder.
Posted By: ribka Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice with some boundaries, personally, which describes most of the good-lookin’, kind, folks I know. Certainly, to be fair, not all of them. I have great empathy for both sides of this one. It’s a brutal topic with no clean end of the turd to grab. Pick your poison.

Your mother should have had an abortion....

Jeff's mom decided to keep a child with a mental defect and undersized brain
Posted By: reivertom Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/06/23
Sam.....they definitely care more about baby animals than baby humans.
Posted By: JakeBlues Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/07/23
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice with some boundaries, personally, which describes most of the good-lookin’, kind, folks I know. Certainly, to be fair, not all of them. I have great empathy for both sides of this one. It’s a brutal topic with no clean end of the turd to grab. Pick your poison.
That's because you know a bunch of worthless jackasses.
Originally Posted by MickeyD
Originally Posted by Jeff_O
Not denying your reality, but it’s contrary to what I’ve personally seen WRT folks I know.

I’m pro-choice.....
I'd be more supportive of pro choice if it wasn't someone else's body and life that was being destroyed!
When a woman gets pregnant she instantly becomes a mother. Her choice is to either be the mother of a living child or a dead one.
When a mother chooses to kill her child (born or unborn) it is the taking another's life....it's murder.

and in EVERY instance, it is the infant's own MOTHER that condemns them to being dismembered and sold for parts.
Here are some of those aborted blobs of cells that they talk about.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Ain't hot enough yet.

[Linked Image from cdn.catholic.com]
RC - Pointing out the obvious, but those are blobs of plastic. But I do support recycling so....
Posted By: Fireball2 Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/07/23
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
In 1916 Planned Parenthood was conceived to contain the black population explosion.

Today black Americans make up 13.6% of the population but account for 40% of abortions in the US.

So I would suggest that abortions have worked as intended.

Sign 'em up for more winning!
For the record, I view abortion as legal murder. If women who wants to murder their baby and it's legal in the eyes of the State, then it's on them and not me.

But for those who advocate ending abortion, who's going to be responsible for the 930,000 unwanted babies each year? And figure the cost of raising a child is $250,000 from 0-18. That's $232 billion a year. Pregnancies are not going to end with the end of abortion.

That's no small matter to address...
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
RC - Pointing out the obvious, but those are blobs of plastic. But I do support recycling so....
It's very hard to find real ones to photograph but that's exactly what they look like.
Posted By: Burleyboy Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/07/23
The left is a satanic death cult and abortion is their sacrament.

Bb
Posted By: Tyrone Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/07/23
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
But for those who advocate ending abortion, who's going to be responsible for the 930,000 unwanted babies each year? And figure the cost of raising a child is $250,000 from 0-18. That's $232 billion a year. Pregnancies are not going to end with the end of abortion.

That's no small matter to address...
No, no it isn't. But there is a tremendous shortage of children available for adoption. If there were any left over, orphanages are a good thing. I know several fine people who spent most of their youth in an orphanage. May not have been the easiest, but they are all thankful to be alive and striving like the rest of us.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
But for those who advocate ending abortion, who's going to be responsible for the 930,000 unwanted babies each year? And figure the cost of raising a child is $250,000 from 0-18. That's $232 billion a year. Pregnancies are not going to end with the end of abortion.

That's no small matter to address...
No, no it isn't. But there is a tremendous shortage of children available for adoption. If there were any left over, orphanages are a good thing. I know several fine people who spent most of their youth in an orphanage. May not have been the easiest, but they are all thankful to be alive and striving like the rest of us.


You're talking about doubling and then some the number of children (per year I might add) in foster care/orphanages like that's no big deal. And our current foster care system is failing and funding is drying up. So how's that going to work?

Currently there are about 400,000 in foster care and somehow we can add another 930,000 a year... for the next few decades?
Well, if we’re going to argue that the burden on society is such that it’s better to kill all those babies, it makes sense also to anyone too old to work.

It’s negotiable, I’ll start the bidding at 70. Anyone at 70 gets scissors to the spinal column.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/07/23
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
You're talking about doubling and then some the number of children (per year I might add) in foster care/orphanages like that's no big deal. And our current foster care system is failing and funding is drying up. So how's that going to work?

Currently there are about 400,000 in foster care and somehow we can add another 930,000 a year... for the next few decades?
Each state has it's own laws and all of them aren't going to magically change overnight. So, it wouldn't be 930k at once, but over the course of years. Heck, it could be only 1 state per year over the course of 50 years.

Most kids in foster care are older, not newborns. Newborns are in great demand for adoption, so that further pairs down on the 930k number. An even greater number would be kept by the birth mothers and the birth mother's relatives.
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
For the record, I view abortion as legal murder. If women who wants to murder their baby and it's legal in the eyes of the State, then it's on them and not me.

But for those who advocate ending abortion, who's going to be responsible for the 930,000 unwanted babies each year? And figure the cost of raising a child is $250,000 from 0-18. That's $232 billion a year. Pregnancies are not going to end with the end of abortion.

That's no small matter to address...

Might as well just kill off all the infirm, the elderly and the poor. Right?
Posted By: Tyrone Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/07/23
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
For the record, I view abortion as legal murder. If women who wants to murder their baby and it's legal in the eyes of the State, then it's on them and not me.

But for those who advocate ending abortion, who's going to be responsible for the 930,000 unwanted babies each year? And figure the cost of raising a child is $250,000 from 0-18. That's $232 billion a year. Pregnancies are not going to end with the end of abortion.

That's no small matter to address...
Might as well just kill off all the infirm, the elderly and the poor. Right?
They got the 'Rona to thin those Medicare rolls.
Posted By: JakeBlues Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/08/23
They passed a pro abortion initiative in Ohio and they showed a headquarters for the initiative and the place was packed full of 100s of fat, butt ugly fugks. I literally didn't see a single attractive person in the entire room.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
But for those who advocate ending abortion, who's going to be responsible for the 930,000 unwanted babies each year? And figure the cost of raising a child is $250,000 from 0-18. That's $232 billion a year. Pregnancies are not going to end with the end of abortion.

That's no small matter to address...
No, no it isn't. But there is a tremendous shortage of children available for adoption. If there were any left over, orphanages are a good thing. I know several fine people who spent most of their youth in an orphanage. May not have been the easiest, but they are all thankful to be alive and striving like the rest of us.
If the government was serious about stopping abortions, they'd arrange for adoptions to be reasonably priced. Adopting can cost $50k in some cases. There are many thousands of really great would-be parents who are lower or middle income and simply can't afford to adopt.
Posted By: JakeBlues Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/08/23
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
If the government was serious about stopping abortions, they'd arrange for adoptions to be reasonably priced. Adopting can cost $50k in some cases. There are many thousands of really great would-be parents who are lower or middle income and simply can't afford to adopt.
The government literally ruins everything.
Posted By: CCCC Re: The Ugliness of Abortion - 11/08/23
Those who are sufficiently selfish to suit only their own needs and wishes can conjure a vast array of positions, arguments and slogans to cloud the fact. But, as ever, it is a very simple and brutal matter - the intentional murder of a helpless and innocent human.
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