This is certainly not another cookie cutter, mind-dead copy, paste and run report. Fourth graders playing basketball and the adults in the room have a brawl. Why in the hell does a 4th grade game need four refs?

https://www.tmz.com/2023/12/11/refe...uth-basketball-lakewood-police-colorado/

NBN!!

Jeez Paul, ain't it obvious? The ref called a 3 second violation and by my count it was only 2 1/2 seconds

He deserved an ass-whoopin.'

FOUR refs for a damn 4th grade basketball game. Good lort.

Well you gotta have a fair fight as well as a fair game.

Boy, basketball is getting almost as good as hockey!!

You completely missed the elephant in the room---the race of the combatants.

That didn't register with me. I did note that they were all males. Since males are responsible for an overwhelming amount of violence in this country should we hold prejudices against all males and hurl invective at them categorically?

Paul;
Top of the morning to you sir, I hope the day in your part of LA has started out with promise and you're all well.

As a parent attending high school sports, I was somewhat surprised to see that the same kids who played volleyball earlier in the year turned into little savages on the basketball court.

Likewise their parents' behavior deteriorated noticeably for the entire basketball season, but by next year's volleyball season they'd all - parents and kids that is to say - returned to some semblance of normality.

Our youngest was quite involved with high school basketball, being voted team captain 3 years in a row by her team, then turning to coaching in her senior year and is now a high school teacher who - that's right - coaches both basketball and volleyball.

That said, this fall she refused to coach one particular group, though for the life of me I think it was boys and not girls Paul, but she said they were a bunch of non attentive miscreants whose behavior didn't warrant or deserve her time. It was something like that...

She's got two degrees and some other stuff behind her name, so can string verbiage together in a substantially better manner than I'll ever be able to.

Although our kids didn't play hockey, I hear that hockey parents are the absolute worst, but that's an "I hear" so please take it as such.

All the best to you all this Christmas Season Paul.

Dwayne

Thanks for the well wishes Dwayne, and likewise I hope you and yours enjoy your Christmas.

Things are very different these days than they were when I played basketball. My parents expected my coach to correct me. They expected my neighbors to correct me. They expected my teachers to correct me. Then when I got home, there was more correction in store for me. Today, parents make the job of teachers, coaches and neighbors nigh impossible. Today parents think their kids are precious little angels and take offense to anyone setting them straight.

Don’t say that! Now Paul can signal up his virtue! He was waiting for someone to interject just that, noticing that blacks (again!) have very little impulse control and are commonly filmed yelling and fighting in airports, restaurants, weddings, sporting events, school, church, the library, police stations, grammas house, outside, inside, day, night, on Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving. No place is immune from a black flash brawl that would be easily diffused by others with a modicum of impulse control.

Paul;
Thanks for the reply and well wishes.

When discussing this very issue with our daughter, we do take into account that basketball has no net to keep the teams apart whereas volleyball does.

Obviously in a game where opposing players come into physical contact with each other there's going to be more aggressive behavior and tempers are more apt to flare.

As a final "for whatever it's worth" thought, where our daughter teaches down at the coast Canadian born white kids are a minority and in some cases none will be in her classes. Her school is a mix of East Indian/South Asian, Philippine, Korean, Vietnamese with a smattering of kids from various Latin American countries, a few Russian and Ukrainian kids tossed in and two African countries which now slip my mind.

Here in the valley the kids were a mix of Canadian born white, East Indian/South Asian, Philippine and First Nations mostly.

If there was an ethnic group up here that was worse than another, I missed that bit of data gathering.

All the best once more to you and all the 'Fire here this Christmas.

Dwayne

exactly, his plan all along.

Oh bullschit. Of course it registered with you! How could it not? And where did I suggest holding prejudices and hurling invective at blacks? Stop lying.

Can you help me understand the consequence of their race?

Don't be obtuse. The consequences are all around us. Your video is but one example.

Can you spell it out for me?

For several years, I coached our high school Air Force Jr. ROTC drill team. Many of the drill meets we attended were two day events involving interstate bus trips, overnight motel stays, and competition events with a thousand kids or so in attendance- - - -male, female, and all races represented. Our team had an average of 20-something members, plus coaches and parent chaperones. Those kids were incredibly self-disciplined and motivated to WIN!

When it takes a herd of cops to maintain the peace at a 2-hour football or basketball game, how many LEOs do you think were needed to ride herd on a thousand kids for two days of intense competition, all carrying clubs (AKA demilled drill rifles)? NOT A ONE! The kids aren't the problem- - - -maybe it's the example set by by the adults who have an influence in their lives!

Summed up in four words:

Diversity Is Killing Us!!

https://reason.com/2017/09/08/penn-law-prof-amy-wax-on-her-controversi/

"There has been one silver lining for Wax: support has poured in from people around the country. She has received quiet whispers of support at Penn, but the real show of support 'has come from ordinary citizens, from the forgotten man, and many have been quite thoughtful and intelligent. I have learned—although I already knew—the progressive professoriat really is despised by a good part of the citizenry. People believe that the elite academy is destroying our country, and what's good about it.'"

You are painting with a rather broad brush.

Some coaches/teachers are good. A lot are idiots. Some are downright dangerous.

Come on Paul. While it’s true males are overwhelmingly responsible for most violence, black males are overwhelmingly responsible for most violence in the male population.

Truer words were never spoken.

I had a hunch if the conversation turned to race we'd end up with this opportunity.

Let's play with some round numbers here.

Men are 10 times more likely to engage in violent crime than women. It's not okay hate all men, to be bigoted toward all men, to have a prejudicial disposition toward all men and/or to disparage the gender as a whole on account of that.

Blacks men are 5 times more likely than white men to engage in violent crime. That makes it okay to hate all blacks, to be bigoted toward all blacks, to have a prejudicial disposition toward all blacks and/or to disparage the race as a whole.

Please engage in whatever mental gymnastics, moral justification, intellectual dishonesty or obfuscation is necessary to explain that.

Who and where in this thread did anyone argue for hatred and bigotry? Literally, the only person obfuscating and engaging in intellectual dishonesty in this thread is you.

This thread? What makes you think my comments are about this thread? Have you not seen the rampant pervasive racial bigotry and prejudice on display in this forum through the years?

Your comment falls squarely in the intellectual dishonesty column.

Next!

No, TWO. The video shows 2 adjacent courts. The foursome was congregating between games.

Okay, I can stand down from my rant.

Now you're doubling down on your intellectual dishonesty by falsely claiming the people who you invited in this thread to engage in "mental gymnastics, moral obfuscation and intellectual dishonesty [as] necessary" are actually unnamed discussants in another (unnamed) thread who we have no way of knowing are even participating in this one. Your lies are transparent and pathetic. The only discussant in this thread who has said anything provably dishonest is you, repeatedly.

+1

Men are 10 times more likely to engage in violent crime than women. It's not okay hate all men, to be bigoted toward all men, to have a prejudicial disposition toward all men and/or to disparage the gender as a whole on account of that.

Blacks men are 5 times more likely than white men to engage in violent crime. That makes it okay to hate all blacks, to be bigoted toward all blacks, to have a prejudicial disposition toward all blacks and/or to disparage the race as a whole.

Blacks men???

To answer your question, not at all. Not even in the least little bit but even you have to see where a WHOLE LOT of peoples thinking is.

I have no hate of blacks, none. They are people same as me and you and I live in an area where there aren't many. BUT I understand that those who live in an area where there are a lot they may have some preconceptions. You should too.

As to Tarqueen, Fugk him.

They probably don't - there looks to be multiple courts, multiple games.