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Posted By: KFWA Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Watching the local news tonight

Cinci is passing some gun laws to go after gunowners who leave guns in cars and have them stolen

They are saying 2 guns are reported stolen a day in a Cincinnati

$750 fine for stolen guns that aren't reported immediately
$200 fee to return stolen gun to owner - fee covers ballistics testing and serial number database checking

whatever, what I want to know



Who leaves a gun in their car in an urban city?
At least two people per day leave a gun in their car
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by KFWA
Watching the local news tonight

Cinci is passing some gun laws to go after gunowners who leave guns in cars and have them stolen

They are saying 2 guns are reported stolen a day in a Cincinnati

$750 fine for stolen guns that aren't reported immediately
$200 fee to return stolen gun to owner - fee covers ballistics testing and serial number database checking

whatever, what I want to know



Who leaves a gun in their car in an urban city?

Probably about as many who leave their company computer in the same car. I've heard it a thousand times "This is a nice neighborhood. Nothing ever happens here". Yea right . As the guy says Here's your sign".

Of all the places one goes a city is the place where one would need a firearm the most. If you have to stop at a place that you can’t bring a firearm in with you then the law requires that you leave it locked in your vehicle. If they don’t want you leaving it locked in your vehicle then they should provide lockers for temporary safe storage.

I’m not going into any city unarmed and if I have to stop somewhere that doesn’t allow firearms by law, not company policy, then it gets locked in my vehicle.

The former dipshit chief of Seattle police department had his service weapon stolen at LEAST TWICE from his UNLOCKED department vehicle.
I think this is a PERFECT TIME and perfect opportunity for the citizens of Cincinnati to DEMAND an audit of the police department weapon inventory! For every firearm missing from their inventory they should be required to pay the same fines as well as additional serious consequences for their irresponsible recklessness!
Let’s blame the law abiding citizens for burglars. Fugkin idiot
Posted By: 19352012 Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by KFWA
Watching the local news tonight

Cinci is passing some gun laws to go after gunowners who leave guns in cars and have them stolen

They are saying 2 guns are reported stolen a day in a Cincinnati

$750 fine for stolen guns that aren't reported immediately
$200 fee to return stolen gun to owner - fee covers ballistics testing and serial number database checking

whatever, what I want to know



Who leaves a gun in their car in an urban city?
Someone who's been paid $1000 to leave it in the car so it can be stolen
Posted By: SupFoo Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by KFWA
Who leaves a gun in their car in an urban city?

As opposed to ......?
Originally Posted by 19352012
Originally Posted by KFWA
Watching the local news tonight

Cinci is passing some gun laws to go after gunowners who leave guns in cars and have them stolen

They are saying 2 guns are reported stolen a day in a Cincinnati

$750 fine for stolen guns that aren't reported immediately
$200 fee to return stolen gun to owner - fee covers ballistics testing and serial number database checking

whatever, what I want to know



Who leaves a gun in their car in an urban city?
Someone who's been paid $1000 to leave it in the car so it can be stolen

Ok, frost bit Turdsicle.
We’re I somebody important, I’d consider punishing thieves rather than victims.
Posted By: RAM Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Oh yeah. This will pass Constitutional voir dire.🙄
Posted By: KFWA Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
I guess it could be people just running into a quickie mart and getting the car broken into, but I get the impression from the news story , its cars parked long term.

I said urban because I wouldn't leave a gun in the car overnight in a city, I *might* do that if I lived in the country

I'm not leaving a laptop in a car in the city long term either, or a cell phone, or anything valuable

Given its Cincinnati, its probably not a lot of white people living outside the city going to high theft areas in the city
Well, it seems no one will be reporting stolen guns then.

Morons.
Posted By: Potsy Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Laws are for people with jobs that can afford to pay fines.

No money in jailing a meth head that broke into a car and stole a gun.

Hint…….
Originally Posted by KFWA
Watching the local news tonight

Cinci is passing some gun laws to go after gunowners who leave guns in cars and have them stolen

They are saying 2 guns are reported stolen a day in a Cincinnati

$750 fine for stolen guns that aren't reported immediately
$200 fee to return stolen gun to owner - fee covers ballistics testing and serial number database checking

whatever, what I want to know



Who leaves a gun in their car in an urban city?

Easy question.....goofballs leave their guns in cars. I don't even want to leave a gun in a car to go in and eat a sandwich, much less over night. At least get one of those lock boxes fastened to the car and make them work for it.
Leave a gun anywhere you want. String up the fugking thieves.
Posted By: plumbum Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by KFWA
Watching the local news tonight

Cinci is passing some gun laws to go after gunowners who leave guns in cars and have them stolen

They are saying 2 guns are reported stolen a day in a Cincinnati

$750 fine for stolen guns that aren't reported immediately
$200 fee to return stolen gun to owner - fee covers ballistics testing and serial number database checking

whatever, what I want to know



Who leaves a gun in their car in an urban city?

At least 2 people per day in Cincinnati apparently.

I don't get it either.
Posted By: plumbum Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Well, it seems no one will be reporting stolen guns then.

Morons.

Uh no. When a thief get caught with Joe's gun, if Joe had not timely report it as stolen, then Joe is in trouble.
Originally Posted by MadMooner
Leave a gun anywhere you want. String up the fugking thieves.
This
Posted By: KFWA Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
wanted to find out more about the statistics of this. Here is what I found

In cities that report crime data to the FBI:

On average, at least one gun is stolen from a car every 15 minutes.

Thefts from cars divert guns away from the legal market, making them particularly dangerous.

A decade ago, less than a quarter of gun thefts were from cars; in 2020, over half were.

2019–2020 saw recent history’s biggest spike in gun thefts from cars, in unison with spikes in gun sales and homicides, and the speed of crime gun recoveries.

Cars parked at residences (driveways, outside homes, etc.) are the most common source of stolen guns, demonstrating the importance of securely storing guns at all times and locations.

the last one is what I don't get people doing
The residents should sue the city every time a person who should be in jail for previous crime steals a gun.
Originally Posted by MadMooner
Leave a gun anywhere you want. String up the fugking thieves.


That's where common decency brings you.
Leave a Lorcin or a High Point 45 ACP in plain view and the doors unlocked. Just be sure the ammo in it has a compressed load of Bullseye and a really tight barrel obstruction just ahead of the chamber. The crackhead thief, or whomever buys it from him won't be stealing another gun once the trigger gets pulled the first time.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
The Liberal mindset.
Posted By: Ranger99 Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by BrokenarrowII
Originally Posted by MadMooner
Leave a gun anywhere you want. String up the fugking thieves.
This


Yes
You should be able to set your gun or rolex or
whatever you want to on your car or front porch
or whatever place that is your private property

Bad people are the problem. I've yet to figure
why everybody doesn't agree with that.
You don't mess with something that you know
doesn't belong to you. That's common sense.

Same with the ptb here that wanted to ban
the plastic grocery bags that everybody throws
down. Write a ticket for those that litter.
That's a law everywhere I've ever been, and
as far as I know, it's a law everywhere in the
country.

Punish bad people that break the law
A gun stolen from your car, used in a high profile crime and traced back to you could result in a lawsuit that even if you win, would ruin you fighting it.
Posted By: hookeye Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Copy:

Someone who's been paid $1000 to leave it in the car so it can be stolen

..................

Bingo. Same law in Indy.

This BS is to supposedly stop a form of a straw purchase.

Like those that do it are now gonna stop because they could be fined.
Lawless group of society.
As usual
Originally Posted by wabigoon
The Liberal mindset.
I know. Can’t start a damn 1950 model gas engine that’s getting fuel
Originally Posted by KFWA
Who leaves a gun in their car in an urban city?

That’d be me. Today. In Cincinnati.

Had to go to the zoning board on court street. Locked the J-frame in the glove box. When I got inside the bldg, I had to go back to the car ‘cause security wouldn’t let me through with my Kershaw, nor would they hold it for me while I took my paperwork upstairs.

I normally never go north of 6th street in Cincy without a .45 with 2 extra mags. But for having to go to the zoning office, I’d not have been there.

FC
Leaving anything valuable out in plain sight, even in a locked vehicle, is a dumb thing to do.
I’ll not excuse a thief, but I tend to look after my possessions, and I’ll always be on my guard.
Here in rural Pennsylvania your stuff is fairly safe.
That said, I won’t leave a rifle in the truck overnight anymore than I’d leave it in the same spot I’m hunting at tomorrow.
But in hunting season you can bet I’ll be keeping it handy.
Same with a trip to the range or a competition shoot on the weekend.
If I stop for smokes or a cup of coffee, the truck gets locked, and if I have a gun, it gets covered with a jacket or something.
Hell, for that matter, if I stop at the store and have a bag or two full of goodie’s, they’ll go on the floor and get covered up if I’m getting out of the truck, and it’s locked up.
Like I said, I cannot abide a thief, but I’m not going to tempt the honest guys either.
And charging someone a fee to recover their stolen property would be fine if the thief pays the fee. Otherwise it’s theft even if it is the municipality!
Reon
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Let’s blame the law abiding citizens for burglars. Fugkin idiot

Right. Stupid Bastards.
Posted By: JamesJr Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by gregintenn
We’re I somebody important, I’d consider punishing thieves rather than victims.


Dat's racist. Little Jarquarvious wouldn't have stolen that gun if that ole racist Whitey hadn't left in his car. Jarquarvious, he a good boy, he didn't do nuffin.
I spent ~20 of the last 40 years working in downtown Cincy. The last 10 years, anytime I was in downtown Cincy, I had a legally carried CCDW in the center console.

There is also the concept of not looking like a target. Don't cover the vehicle with NRA / Hunting / Firearms related decals. No bumper stickers. No custom/vanity license plates. NOTHING of value visible inside the car. Zero external visual clues to draw attention to your vehicle. Not a 100% guarantee that your vehicle will not be molested. But, goes a long way to reduce probability.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Since when is locking up a gun in a car (or a house) not locking the gun up?
Posted By: Tyrone Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by plumbum
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Well, it seems no one will be reporting stolen guns then.

Morons.

Uh no. When a thief get caught with Joe's gun, if Joe had not timely report it as stolen, then Joe is in trouble.
Proof it was Joe's?
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I think this is a PERFECT TIME and perfect opportunity for the citizens of Cincinnati to DEMAND an audit of the police department weapon inventory! For every firearm missing from their inventory they should be required to pay the same fines as well as additional serious consequences for their irresponsible recklessness!
This.
Originally Posted by gregintenn
Were I somebody important, I’d consider punishing thieves rather than victims.
Bingo!
Originally Posted by Potsy
Laws are for people with jobs that can afford to pay fines.

No money in jailing a meth head that broke into a car and stole a gun.

Hint…….
Yep.
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
The residents should sue the city every time a person who should be in jail for previous crime steals a gun.
Great point.
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Since when is locking up a gun in a car (or a house) not locking the gun up?
This.
Posted By: Swifty52 Re: Stolen Guns in Cincinnati - 12/14/23
Originally Posted by RAM
Oh yeah. This will pass Constitutional voir dire.🙄


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Been going on for over 20 years bud. The only thing it does is fine you for being a fugging idiot, As it should be.
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