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Posted By: BrotherBart Grackles - 04/12/24
When grackles are in a group, they are referred to as a "plague".
I'm wondering is Grackles have anything good to contribute to the world.
From what I've gathered, all they do is empty bird feeders and harass every
other species that they come in contact with. I did a little bit of poking around
and found that their population is in decline. I've been feeding the birds for many
years and I think that I've seen more Grackles here than anywhere I've ever lived.
These bastards squawk at me every time I have the nerve to wander around in my
backyard.
I have a badass 1970's vintage Sheridan Silver Streak in .20 caliber. I went through
it a few years ago and replaced the internals so it shoots like a brand new gun.
I also put a Williams peep-sight on it. Putting that sight on it prolly doubled its value.
Anyone know if Grackles are considered a nuisance? It sure would save me aolt of
money when it comes to buying bird seed to run them off or get rid of them. Anyone???
Posted By: steveredd1 Re: Grackles - 04/12/24
more states have grackles protected, go figure
Posted By: DMc Re: Grackles - 04/12/24
Bummer, but Grackles are protected.
Posted By: BOBBALEE Re: Grackles - 04/12/24
I think they are under the migratory act. Same as ducks and doves. Except there's no season.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Grackles - 04/12/24
Back in 1979, my dad's best friend was the mayor of Alice Tx Crackles had made the oak trees around the Jim Wells County courthouse their roost, the smell from the chit would make you sick and puke. Ken the mayor my dad and I and several cops surrounded the court at night with shotguns and went to town. We killed thousands there were several piles of birds over 6 feet tall, that was some fun chit.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Uncommon this (west) side of the Rockies. Only seen one in a little over 50 yrs in SE Oregon.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Bart, I'd just shoot them, I don't care about some bull chit law that was made to be broken.
Posted By: BrotherBart Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Bart, I'd just shoot them, I don't care about some bull chit law that was made to be broken.
Hehehehehe... I might Rog, since you put it like that...
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
I like grackles.


At least they run off the starlings.
Posted By: RupertBear Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Smart. Now that you've announced it to the world, and there are considerable federal penalties involved, YES. DO IT. Let's see of the feds are watching!
RB
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Penalties for smoking a grackle?


Like what?
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
I've always found it extremely difficult, ta distinguish tween starlings and gracks, when decidin ta pull the trigger.

Innocent mistake.
Posted By: TheLastLemming76 Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I like grackles.


At least they run off the starlings.

I lived for killing starlings and grackles as a 8-10 year old kid. The starlings would come into to pick bird seed from under the bird feeder first. If I didn’t shoot one the grackles would run them off. The grackles were the trophy bird😂 usually I just went ahead and shot the starlings.
Posted By: JamesJr Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by TheLastLemming76
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I like grackles.


At least they run off the starlings.

I lived for killing starlings and grackles as a 8-10 year old kid. The starlings would come into to pick bird seed from under the bird feeder first. If I didn’t shoot one the grackles would run them off. The grackles were the trophy bird😂 usually I just went ahead and shot the starlings.

Same here. We had a bunch of big cedar trees that they roosted in, and I'd go through several boxes of 22's each spring just shooting grackles.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Grackles will also take eggs out of another bird's nest and lay their own in it letting the other bird raise it's young.
Posted By: BrotherBart Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by RupertBear
Smart. Now that you've announced it to the world, and there are considerable federal penalties involved, YES. DO IT. Let's see of the feds are watching!
RB
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Penalties for smoking a grackle?


Like what?
Inquiring minds wanna know...
Posted By: BrotherBart Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Grackles will also take eggs out of another bird's nest and lay their own in it letting the other bird raise it's young.
I don't think so. Cowbirds do that. Injuns thought that cowbirds nested on the backs of bufflers cuz they couldn't find their nests.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
$15k and 6 months, tho harsher penalties have been proposed.
Posted By: Jim1611 Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by BrotherBart
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Grackles will also take eggs out of another bird's nest and lay their own in it letting the other bird raise it's young.
I don't think so. Cowbirds do that. Injuns thought that cowbirds nested on the backs of bufflers cuz they couldn't find their nests.

Yes, you're right. Thanks for reminding me. I'm seeing quite a few cowbirds around my feeders.
Posted By: RupertBear Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Penalties for smoking a grackle?
Up to a year in the federal slammer, and fines (google it you ownself, lazy fuqq).
The good news is that it isn't a felony, so when the sun again shines on your pale hide, you can still carry.
RB
Posted By: BrotherBart Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by RupertBear
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Penalties for smoking a grackle?
Up to a year in the federal slammer, and fines (google it you ownself, lazy fuqq).
SCREW YOU you sanctimonious A-HOLE! Crawl back in your hole.
Posted By: RupertBear Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Got a problem with the truth, do you?
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Penalties for smoking a grackle?


Like what?
Probably not in TX, at least if one can show they are a nuisance or health hazard (as in Roger's example)

Quote
Wild Birds: All wild birds that migrate through or are indigenous to Texas, along with their plumage or other parts, eggs, nests and young are protected from harming, killing and/or possession by state and federal law except that European starlings, English sparrows, and feral pigeons may be killed at any time and their nests and eggs may be destroyed. A permit is not required to control grackles; cowbirds; yellow-headed, red-winged, rusty or Brewer's blackbirds; crows or magpies when these birds are considered a nuisance or causing a public health hazard. No birds may be controlled by any means considered illegal by local city or county ordinance

https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/wild/rehab/protected/
Posted By: BrotherBart Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
No... I have a problem with Frozen Socialists.
Posted By: basdjs Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Grackles are native to North America and consume a lot of insects. I see no more good reason to shoot them than any other native songbird.
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by RupertBear
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Penalties for smoking a grackle?
Up to a year in the federal slammer, and fines (google it you ownself, lazy fuqq).
The good news is that it isn't a felony, so when the sun again shines on your pale hide, you can still carry.
RB
Are you sure about that?

see my post with the quote directly from Texas Parks and Wildlife.
Posted By: RupertBear Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
And so, when you cannot discuss a subject rationally, resort to ad hominem attacks. They may assist you in diverting attention to your ignorance, eh?
RB
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by RupertBear
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Penalties for smoking a grackle?
Up to a year in the federal slammer, and fines (google it you ownself, lazy fuqq).
The good news is that it isn't a felony, so when the sun again shines on your pale hide, you can still carry.
RB
Are you sure about that?

see my post with the quote directly from Texas Parks and Wildlife.

Migratory Bird Act is a federal law.

Some States allow it, like dope, but the feds can still step in.

SSS
Posted By: RupertBear Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Like so many other things, it depends on the officer involved. It does bring up the question of precedence of law. Does a state statute over rule a federal one?
RB
Posted By: JeffyD Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Ruh-Roh! I hope there's a statute of limitations on shooting grackles, because back in the day...
Posted By: efw Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
4-Ss
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by RupertBear
And so, when you cannot discuss a subject rationally, resort to ad hominem attacks. They may assist you in diverting attention to your ignorance, eh?
RB

Old woman turned you out eh?

Go lay down.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by efw
4-Ss

4?
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Fubarski
I've always found it extremely difficult, ta distinguish tween starlings and gracks, when decidin ta pull the trigger.

Innocent mistake.

Happened to me once.


Ma said come shoot these starlings.

Can't say no to your ma....right? Leastways no one has ever been convicted of war crimes when acting on orders from their mother.

Was riding around town with a buddy later on and he spotted a big starling. He says...man...that's a nice grackle.

Oh? Grackle huh?


Yeah...thats a nice one.....
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I like grackles.


At least they run off the starlings.

You have regular common grackles. We have great-tailed grackles, twice the size.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I like grackles.


At least they run off the starlings.

You have regular common grackles. We have great-tailed grackles, twice the size.

They just look big because you guys are a bit on the shorter side of things.
Posted By: TreeMutt Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
They nest in the Spring in a row of Hemlocks and tall shrubs by my house.

I used to shoot one or two with a pellet gun years ago and they would get the message and seemed to know they were being targeted. Smart like crows? I had an uncle who used to call them [bleep]-- birds smile

I don't plink them anymore as they seem to almost disappear after nesting. I don't think they are as destructive as starlings just don't have a pleasant sing song, kinda raspy....I've evolved into kinda liking them.

MAGA!
Posted By: pavementends Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
I may be incorrect but I think they were added to the migratory bird act as part of the same treaty with Mexico that added crows to the list.
Posted By: Reloder28 Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Grackles are excellent food for Raptors.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Geno pretty well covered it.

Calldumb/lostbitch60 threatened to tattle on me for shooting magpies.


He's real up on things you know.
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
SSS, they are not even remotely endangered, but beware Karen neighbors.

Anyways, grackles, even our big great-tailed grackle ARE protected by the migratory bird act. TPWD does issue depredation permits for commercial operations but prob’ly not for your bird feeder.

Great tailed grackle males are twice the size of females. A single male grackle stakes out a number of adjacent trees, drives off other males and mates with every female nesting in his trees. Male great-tails have it rough, being bigger, they require more food as young birds and many starve. As adults only about one in five ever succeeds in establishing a territory.

They take no part in raising their young but do defend against predators.

If you shoot a female (smaller and brown) this time of year you’re starving her nest of young which may or may not be a problem. Males are usually non-territorial males or sometimes the successful one in five on territory with females. Neither sort of male feeds the young much if at all.
Posted By: Fubarski Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by efw
4-Ss

4?

starling.
Posted By: gkt5450 Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Had a lib acquaintance who once told me that those Great Grackles were endangered. I told him “yes, yes they are.”
Posted By: efw Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by efw
4-Ss

4?


Ha touché

Ummm

Sleep well?
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Good enough.
Posted By: Jackson_Handy Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
I stacked grackles like cord wood as a kid. Browning sa-22 and Remington subsonics...
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Geno pretty well covered it.

Calldumb/lostbitch60 threatened to tattle on me for shooting magpies.


He's real up on things you know.
Well, I almost hate to admit it, but upon further reading.........................one may need a "permit" declaring the things a nuisance or health problem.

Once again, we're in the realm of dealing with "authorities"

Seems, from my reading just now, house sparrows and starlings, and the big doves with the collar are not protected as they are non-native AND invasive.

Good thing, as a few more will likely die around here this year.

Haven't seen a grackle in these parts yet. Noisy bastards as I recall, and not a pleasant noise.
Posted By: stxhunter Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
F-CKING Grackles here, you have to be real careful if you're eating in your car or truck because as soon as you turn your head they will swoop in and steal your fries or whatever else they can carry off to eat.
Posted By: Birdwatcher Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Seems, from my reading just now, house sparrows and starlings, and the big doves with the collar are not protected as they are non-native AND invasive.

Good thing, as a few more will likely die around here this year.

Haven't seen a grackle in these parts yet. Noisy bastards as I recall, and not a pleasant noise.

Yepper, non-native, not protected. And if you’re trapping house sparrows and starlings out of purple Martin or bluebird houses, well heck, their heads just pull right off, minimal effort.
Posted By: DaveR Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
SSS, they are not even remotely endangered, but beware Karen neighbors.

Exactly, nobody gives a chit except for the "they were here first, we are guests in their territory" types. Yeah, BS. Lived in the valley here in AZ for a few years as a kid. Never saw or heard one of those aggressive, obnoxious, loud bastards back in the early 80's. Now they are everywhere here. Racket like you can't believe.

Most disliked bird for me, above the crow, and that's saying a lot. The shrill calls these cocky bastards puts out just pierces my ears. Impossible to enjoy a nice day outside with any semblance of peace and quiet. Or at least it was....

First moved back a couple years ago, and wanted to get the Gambel's quail in the yard and started spreading seed for them. The n1ger birds moved in, and took over. Couldn't get hummers to the feeders because these fuggers would try and chase down the hummers to kill them. Seen grackles take off after hummers several times like they would a grasshopper. Oh no the fug you aren't!

I've heard that doing a "sniper's hide" kind of thing and zapping them fuggers from inside the house through a slightly cracked open door or window with a quiet pellet rifle won't alert the Karens of the neighborhood, beyond the occasional dead grackle in their yard.

Whatever someone is doing is working. I hear one of them bastards anywhere near my yard now, and all I have to do is walk outside and out from under the patio, and any grackle within 50 yards or so scoots right off with a few alarm vocalizations anytime I step out from under the patio and come into view. I'm now fortunate to have pretty much (apparently) a recognized grackle no fly zone around my place for a good enough area that they don't bother much anymore. The occasional dumb one or newcomer seems to show up every now and then (for a short...very short time anyway), but for the most part they sure must have a pretty good sense of self preservation, because those are few and far between these days.

Hate them, but never said they were dumb.
Posted By: milespatton Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
I neer saw a grackle here, until lately. The first ones that I saw was in Oklahoma, the first time that I went to the
Quemado shindig. They were in every parking lot where people would throw out french fries and other left over food. I knew they were not any bird that I had ever seen, so I asked around and they turned out to be grackles. Now you see them here in the same places, parking lots. I don't have them at my house. Strarlings migrate through, and we have red-wing blackbirds year round. They nest aroung most anyplace there is standing water. miles
Posted By: poboy Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
[bleep] a bunch of Grackles.
Posted By: OldmanoftheSea Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
They are more pleasant to listen to than Cankles or Kneepads.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I like grackles.


At least they run off the starlings.


Both will spread coccidiosis to your animals.
Posted By: Tminc Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Once upon a time,way before it was unlawful.The was a game played in texas backyards.It was called gobs of grackles.Throw out some bird seed sit on the couch with the back door open.The Trophy ones,the males with their dark purple iridescent glowing in the early morning raysare nice,but we r after the grackles factories the females.The weapon of choice is a beeman r1 .20 caliber pellet rifle.The standing record is 7 although anything over 4 is worthy.After careful selection in my target rich backyard,u bust a female or two w/o spooking the rest,only headshots count and when they pile up u just wait for another to hop over to c what's up with their girlfriend u bust them too.After a while u can make a pretty good pile of feathers and cat food for cheap.Good entertainment and u can work on your trigger pull,breath control and it ain't as intense as bowhunting but when ur u ain't got nothing else to do,cept sip and dip,smoke and poke,I think the demorats have suspended the rule of law so if they ain't enforcing TREASON.........What's a migratory bird law or two?If ya think their endangered,your wrong,and the only thing endangered is your way of life here in the USA.Your gonna need the practice,so what r u waiting for?Pictures r it dont count😎
Posted By: poboy Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
My buddy would prop up the dead ones with twigs and sticks
to bring in more targets.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by poboy
My buddy would prop up the dead ones with twigs and sticks
to bring in more targets.

laugh
Posted By: Tminc Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
I think I know him🤣😁😎
Posted By: steveredd1 Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
had the game warden at my house a few times as neighbors where finding dead birds in there yards, i ask the warden birds just don't die. also told him if i shoot them they dont fly off to die, last time they where here i had a suet cake out with 5 starling laying dead under it, said go look at them, all head shots
Posted By: LRoyJetson Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Never heard of a "Grackle"
I thought it was slang for blacks. ( go read the thread again)
Posted By: Jerry_Lundegaard Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Years ago I saw a grackle swoop in and grab a young dove that flew out of its nest. Soon as the young dove made its uncontrolled hard landing near the shed, in comes a grackle to snatch it up and proceed to fly away. I was like, Huh? Looked it up and sure enough, they’re omnivores. Crazy.
Posted By: steveredd1 Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
anyone know of a accurate or semi accurate soft air gun
Posted By: Valsdad Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by poboy
My buddy would prop up the dead ones with twigs and sticks
to bring in more targets.

laugh
Works quite well with starlings I've heard.

And the sparrow trap folks said to always leave on in the trap with some food and water to lure more in.
Posted By: BrotherBart Re: Grackles - 04/13/24
Originally Posted by RupertBear
And so, when you cannot discuss a subject rationally, resort to ad hominem attacks. They may assist you in diverting attention to your ignorance, eh?
RB
I have to say that you are an idiot. You called me a "lazy fuqq" then seem to be confused when I react to your name calling.
I've cooled my jets as of late but I can tell you with 100% certainty that you would never call me anything to my face.
You have no respect for others. You remind me of the biggest dickhead on here, Brad... That's not good company. Now, piss off...
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