The word respect used to mean we held someone in high regard or admired
them. Over the last few decades the word had degenerated into meaning tolerate
or tolerance. We used to respect the police and held the FBI in high regard. They
were respected. Almost any clergy was respected. Now we are told to respect
everyone’s opinion on everything.

We have hunters telling other hunters they should respect the way they hunt. I
couldn’t care less if a guy climbs up in a tree and ambushes his deer. Just as much I
don’t care if a guy learns to read the wind and kills his deer from 600 yards. I
admire the patience of the ambusher and the ability of long range hunter. But I
don’t respect them. I don’t even know them.

We encounter religious people who claim not to be religious and we are told to
respect them. Why? Some are so full of nonsense they can’t defend their position
without resorting to emotional outburst. I remember one guy told me, “Don’t raise
your voice, reinforce your argument.” He, of course, would not be respected by
those touting respect.

And just when I thought you people couldn't get any more ridiculous.....your leader goes and puts up a thread like that.


Wow.

Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me....

K

What's up with the pond?

Ever make a decision on what kind of fish? Ask ODFW?

He is too busy making up stories.

I have my eye on 77 acres for a decent price. It has three streams on it. Based on what the people here have said, I can make a more intelligent decision on how big the pond should be, how deep it should be and the kind of fish I should be put in it and who to talk to locally about stocking it.

I guess I should have thanked everybody for their input. I'll see if I can scrounge up that thread and do that.

If you wanna see a [bleep] fit - tell someone that respect is earned - not owed.
Fewer and fewer people seem to earn my respect, these days.

Good luck.

Listen to this guy, OP.

Courtesies are given.

Respect is earned.

Probably hard for many younger people to grasp.

Be sure to check the water rights with the property. As they say in the West....."Whiskey's for drinkin', water's for fightin'". The property might have 3 streams, but not have any rights to use it, especially "storage" for a pond.

I don't know Oregon-I do know that here in Colorado it is a complicated system.

Good luck!

LHS

Yep.

That was pointed out to him in the pond thread.

Up to him to research it now.

Rich, be aware, there is more to building a pond these days than just pushing some dirt around to make a dam. Idaho has a pretty strict permitting process about such. I am sure Oregon is much more stringent.

Heck, we are severely limited on how much ground water we can expose. Example, If you are excavating a gravel pit, and the pit fills with ground water. One might think it a nice addition to the property, and stock it with fish.

But no. If the pond is over a specific square footage in surface area, it must be permitted. Permits may often be denied and the pond filled in with dirt until no water is exposed.

The reason is ascribed to evaporative loss of ground water.

Also, dams are strictly regulated. An improperly constructed dam can fail and endanger properties downstream. An irrigation dam failed on a property I was once employed on. It took the owners years to get plans for a replacement dam approved. In the meantime their croplands went dry and died.

This does not even begin to address the issue of water rights.

There is much research to do before starting upon such a project.

MM,
Great thought!

Again, thanks for the pond info.

I was taught that "respect", as a verb, is the act honoring, giving deference to to, abiding by and sometimes even obeying the position of another person - one who has earned that position of respect through exercise of excellent values and good/wise judgment.

Yes - in these times, the term and concept seem to be interpreted and used in many other ways - some of those way off the original mark. Nothing new - this kind of drift and change of usage has been the case in most languages. Only rigorous adherence to meaning in usage can prevent such drift, and most among us simply do not devote enough thought to meaning and word choice - so we drift.

I like the word, It symbolizes a lot and wish I could see and hear more of the real thing each day.

It’s becoming increasingly more common for idiots to latch onto a word, especially one that evokes emotion, and use it ad nauseum until it loses its meaning. Words like rape or terms like sexual assault no longer mean what it used to mean, genocide is another one that has been stripped of its original significance. The liberals are the biggest offenders of misuse and overuse of a word until it becomes meaningless but conservatives are starting to emulate them. It only serves to make them look stupid and easier to ignore. Equal rights has morphed into special rights. LGBTQ has morphed into a forced acceptance of pedophilia. Racism, Islamophobia, antisemitism, homophobia, black lives matter, etc has become nothing more than marketing quips without meaning.

How about assault rifle?

So sick of the idiots using that phrase.

Here's what Aretha Had to say about it:

Well, she did know how to spell it.

Our political heroes lying under oath before Congress all the time
kinda makes it hard to respect them.

^ Lost on a great many lately, isnt it?

The Norwegians seem to believe they are simply owed it.

I told my father that respect was earned once when he jumped me about being disrespectful. He didn't take it well at all.

I lived within 200 yards of an uncle with 4 children in my age group. He was adamant about getting respect from the kids and brutally enforced it with a belt and stick until they got too big to whip. At that point he resorted to ridicule. He was extremely racist and overbearing. He got fear but I don't think there was respect. Two of my cousins ended up in psychiatric care as adults with him being the root cause.

That uncle died of a hypertension induced heart attack in 1969 at less than 60 years old. I believe worrying about the civil rights movement and integration killed him.

Young AND old.

of course if you grew up in the south....you were always preached to from adults of the old saying..
" spare the rod, spoil the child".... what a bunch of horse Scheiss!

Every time I hear the word "RACIST!" come out of a liberal's mouth, I want to take my "assault" hammer and put a few dents in their skull. They use it like its an "assault word" to get someone to go on the defensive about themselves, any time its convenient for them.

I don't fall for this ruse. My attitude is pretty darn simple. How I react to someone is pretty much going to mirror how they react to me. I show anyone respect, no matter who they are, until they give me a reason not to. Pretty simple logic. Don't be an Azz Whole in my direction, you won't find me being one in your direction. That's respect.

I hear the word RACIST, out of someone's mouth, directed toward anyone, not just myself, I'll have my dandruff up.
They are "verbally assaulting" someone else with that slander, because they think they have the right to do so with impunity.
Not on my planet. That's DISRESPECT.

as Woodrow McCall said in Lonesome Dove " its rude behavior and I WON'T tolerate it".

And that is exactly how I feel about it. When someone else throws the first shot, that clears me to be able to return the second shot... with a clear conscience. Why is it that liberals think every thing is a one way street? They think they can offend anyone, but every one else is beneath them and we are supposed to kiss their ass....

John, long ago - as a kid - I learned to never automatically expect respect or sensibility from anyone I met. So, it is a pleasant surprise if it happens. Some such surprises have revealed great people.

In those now rare occasions when some social tool stoops to saying "that's racist" in response to an observation or comment, I simply ask the following:

Using your particular race as a base example, will you please explain exactly why "that is racist"?

Still waiting for the first rational answer, and I'm old.

When I used to watch football about twenty years ago, I noticed certain things. Quarterbacks tended to be white. Tight ends tended to be white. Wide receivers tended to be black. Runing backs tended to be black. Kickers tended to be Hispanic. The nastiest guy on the field tended to be white.

One day a young family member came by to visit and the conversation turned to sports. I reiterated the above. He called me racist.

Hear is how racist I am. I used to varmint hunt with a friend who happened to be black. One time he didn't go with the group.

We stopped on the ay to get some breakfast. The waitress heard me talking Bible.
“Are you a pastor?” She asked with a little enthusiasm.
“No. We work in a furniture manufacturing plant in Grants Pass. This is James. He’s an engineer. That’s Bob who operates a panel saw. I’m a head builder and Dave (who happens to be a legal Mexican immigrant), here, runs the case good department. We were looking for a token Black when we got him but he was the best we could come up with,” I told her. Everyone except the waitress laughed uproariously. She was obviously unimpressed with my humor.

You have quite the imagination....I will give you that.

When anyone says I'm racist. I just look them in the eye and say, I got your racist hanging!! The word has no meaning any longer.