here they come, had a van load of about 10 of them today come get a tire fixed 10 people and 6 dogs in one van, across the street at the filling station there was probably 30 of them begging for gas money, i hate hippies

Don't worry too much, they're just passin' through on their way to.......here. Already about 100 of them in camp today.

No way dude, they are coming HERE.

Veneta, Oregon, for the Country Fair.

BMT

We get mobbed every year come Country Fair time because our property is so close. Friends from "back in the day" come camp at our place, play music, BBQ, drink beer, etc. Some of them even... gasp... have LONG HAIR!!

It's a really good time. Ya'll need to lighten up a little! :-)

When I lived in Fort Collins they had a "gathering" in the hills west of town. Sorry bunch of miscreants as you've ever seen. I guess that's what you become when you've lost self respect and visions of a meaningful future. Watch your belongings!

Wayne

I won't stand up for that (or any) band of miscreants; that would be stupid.

The hippie movement is not a bunch of miscreants, though. I live right here in hippie central, in Eugene. I know some wonderful, productive people who if you saw them walking down the street you might call them a hippie. Yet they are great parents, productive workers, very interesting, intelligent people... etc.

Anyway, paint with as broad a brush as you care to- I won't argue, what's the point- but you'll be wrong, if that matters.

Hippie women that shave are usually keepers.

Hey I like hippies! Think of them as free entertainment when there's nothing interesting on TV.

Jeff:

Is they have jobs, they ain't hippies--by definition (conservative definition, that is).

Those long haired folks with JOBS and tie dyed shirts, subarus, and birkenstocks are called "liberals."

The long haired folks ON WELFARE wearing tie dyed shirts, driving ancient VW buses, with dirty fingernails, and a substance abuse problem are called "hippies."


BMT

I asked a guy at work why his hair was so long, if he was trying to look like his mother;
he replied "no, my moms got short hair"...I was at a loss for words.

FUNNY thread, this,......

...................go get a job, Hippy.

ROTFLMAO,

GTC

Years ago they set up camp here for a couple weeks, 100s. Bus covered in bikes, lots o nakedness in town. Took awhile for the sheriff to get them all rounded up and out of the county. Lot of places to hide around these woods.

There is a large group of the rainbow family that lives year round just south of me, down in the Ocala National Forrest. On some sort of schedual, known only to them, the numbers swell, and decrease from time to tome.
Mostly they are out of sight, but don't think for a moment, that despite what Jeff thinks, the crime stats spike when more come to visit.
I absolutly despise hippies.

Would have thought the skeeters up there would keep the nakedness down!

There is a big permanent population of them in Taos, NM. Most of em were decent sorts and many of them are "Trust Fund babies" that get money once a month from a family trust.

Descendants of Fonda and easy rider cult?

I live two blocks from Berkeley, CA & actually work for that city...the stories I could tell about hippies.

Had a run in with 'em once in N. New Mexico in the Carson forest...twern't pretty...Didn't know there were that many VW micro-busses still around...It was their annual free for all about 20,000 strong and lasted several days...wheweee...

Actually, the 2008 World Gathering is going to be held near Pinedale and the Wind River Range. There's still time to get involved for anyone who's interested. http://www.welcomehere.org/gathering_of_the_tribes/annual/

I don't care how people dress or if they want to run around the forest naked. But, they do tend to overwhelm the carrying capacity of the land they take over. I understand it's quite a mess after they leave, for which the taxpayers wind up footing the bill.

The ones with Dreadlocks who drive Mercedes and live in mountain towns are commonly referred to as Trustafarians.

That's often the case. Any time you get hundreds of people in one spot in the woods for a week, Leave No Trace ain't happening...

That's funny!!

It's as much the attitude of the Rainbows as their huge numbers that destroy an area where they gather. They're dirty people who don't care about anything other than themselves.

Pretty good definition BMT, but you forgot the SMELL!!!

HIPPIES STINK!!!

It's what they are smokin' that smells!

Indeed! It's also a result of being too wash up, or drop their drawers when they go to the bathroom.

"Soap isn't part of Mother Nature, Maaannnn........"

Back when I was a musician in WY I had long hair as did several of the other �pickers�. A couple of us went to Ft. Collins one night for some beer and to try and score a couple of those shaved hippie chicks. One of the Ft. Collins college-hippies mistakenly thought we were one of them until I pointed out a few things to him.

We had showered that day.

We weren�t wearing or smoking anything made from hemp.

The Copenhagen in the back pocket

No patchouli.

Funny thing my 4 year old boy started out of the blue.
We had been visiting a old hippie town called Jerome up near Presscott Arizona, and he was asking about the people. The conversation went like this
ME: Stephen do you want to be a hippie when you grow up?
Stephen: No Daddy they stink!!!

We call those, "Trustafarians" around here! :-)

On a more philosophical note, I think what is missing from our society is any sense of tribalism. The modern-day hippie movement (the only one I have any real familiarity with, being that I was just a kid in the 60's) is all about tribalism and FAMILY. So, I think that it can be a powerful draw for young kids raised in some bland suburb somewhere. Everybody want to belong to something visceral and "real"- especially young people.

As a guitar-picker and recording studio owner from way back I guess maybe I've been around this stuff a lot more than most of you... lots of great hippie or semi-hippie musicians out there. I think some of you would be appalled at how some of the very talented people I've worked with LOOKED on the outside... but creative interesting people sometimes look a little... interesting.

You know, the back to the earth movement, IE people moving way back in the woods, has led to a sub-class of hippie (here in western Oregon anyway) best described as, perhaps, redneck hippies or hippie rednecks. In some ways I resemble that remark and I'm proud of it. In the realm of ideas of how to live, the hippies have some good ones... and if you pick and choose from this philosophy and that one, you can assemble your own Rube Goldberg-esque life philosophy that, well, works for me!

Peace, brutha's! :-)

-jeff

You dang dirty hippie

Yipes! I better go hop in the shower. :-)

Not a session I'm involved with, but Josh is running a 3-day session out in my studio right now that will bring me about $700... yeah they are dressed like hippies but do I care? Nope! Really nice people too, a school teacher and engineer among them... acoustic band (guitars, standup bass, ukelele, violin, washboard percussion) playing sort of gypsy swing, if anyone here is familiar with that. Very cool music.

do they got any weed?

That would indeed be a proud moment! You must be raising your son right.

Cool music indeed. Easy to mike too.

Yep! Especially since the flat-top player/singer is just a scratch track... miking a person singing and playing a flat top guitar for KEEPER tracks can be a real PITA with the phase relationship between the two mics causing havoc, the player moving around, etc.

There's also a drummer playing a tiny kit that we put in the big iso booth and miked with two mikes... a kick mike, and a $2500 tube mic set to OMNI up above him... sounds fantastic.

It helps to have great gear <g>. Josh has about $25k worth of mics to choose from out there... and great preamps... this session is going straight into Pro Tools (after the outboard mic preamps) but usually, with more rock-n-roll type stuff we'd go to 16-trk analog tape first, then dump it into the 'puter.

Billhilly, you and I could have some fun over a few beers! What's your main guitar(s)? I'm a Martin guy but I have a couple other really neat acoustics- a '49 Epi Broadway being one very special one.

LMAO...trustafarians...that's funny I don't care who you are. Telluride and the Aspen/Carbondale valley are thick with them. 'Cept mostly packaged in Beemers and Saabs.

Very similar conversation if you ask him if he wants to be a liberal when he grows up.
ME: Stehpen, do you want to be a liberal when you grow up?
Stephen: No Daddy, because they suck!!

Honest we have never coached him to say thing either. Yesterday he asked me "Daddy will you buy me a wireless phone?"

Jeff, I�m a bass guy. I use an old plywood Englehardt with a high-tech sm58 wrapped in a dish towel wedged under the tailpiece for recording and an Azola EUB and assorted other electrified customs for the live stuff.

I still like the 2� tape before the puter myself as well. Seems warmer to me.

Let me know when you�re ready for them beers

The Rainbow Family had one of their big gatherings up in northern NM back in about 97 or 98, up on the Carson NF. The gathering spot was right where I'd hoped we could put out elk camp in October. The last of them pulled out in early August and I walked over the area on a scouting trip. You could tell a lot of vehicles and people had been there from the way the grass was beaten down and the condition of the road, but there was no trash, no fire pits, and no other sign. A couple of months later, you could never tell that a few thousand people had camped there. I don't know if all their gatherings are as conscientious, but that particular event impressed me.

There are no shortage of long-haired scum (and short-haired scum too) in this world... but in my experience, having run with 'em a bit, "hippies" (for want of a better word) are good people.

As Elvis (not that one) once said, "What's so funny about peace love and understanding?"

But anyway, I'm pissin' against the wind here so...

Billhilly, the standup bass out in the studio right now is a plywood one, though it does sound pretty good. A while ago, a guy brought in an all-solid-wood German standup bass that was over 100 years old. Probably worth around $20k (according to him, that's outside my expertise). That was a gorgeous machine right there! Incredibly hairy, smooth tone. Hardly compressed it at all.

Here's a pic for you, Billhilly. This is me holding up the stock for my Sendero in my control room. I had to glue the damn recoil pad on there, and I didn't want to gross out the family in the house... and my shop wasn't clean enough...



I should take a picture of some of the "hippies" out there right now, making great music and paying me $50 an hour! Love 'em. :-)


(oh yeah- dig the poster in the upper left! That's vintage 70's right there!)

I'll have to wait till I get home to check out the pic Jeff. The IT nazis at work have all the pics blocked.

A 100 yo carved top probably would be in that price range. I'll have to settle for the plywood version.

By the way, I'm with ya on the longhairs having been one myself for so many years.

There is a "hippie" in my town. He runs the coffee shop that has no hours, has poetry readings, risque art on the walls, and wears patagonia. He adds color to an uptight, republican, conservative town.

I kind of like him....

He wears a geographic region containing the southernmost portion of South America?

Nope, no dreads or Mercedes in this bunch. Lotsa junk cars & trucks or walkers. 'Bout 30 of them were regulars at the "Shared Table" a soup kitchen sponsored by a local Methodist Church.

Little kids are sponges. It's great to hear that yours is soaking up such words of wisdom! A 4yr old boy being so wise while still so young gives me hope for the future of our country.

Big Sandy Campgroud. Can you say Grizzly?

they gathered in steamboat co a few years ago and we had problems with them in laramie then, this is why i wish national forests charged camping fee's for out of state visitors, i know it's a national forest but it would let locals enjoy the surronding area and keep these people out

I generally dislike hippies, unless they provide for themselves and don't root for an ignorant cause that infringes on my legal rights. Those folks are just colorful citizens, who don't take life too seriously and are enjoyable to be around.

We have a few of the weirdo Trustafarians around here too. They don't bother anybody but I've never seen anyone worth so much be totally worthless.......

I know a few hippies also but they can�t grow hair anymore so they shave their heads bald. They blend right in with the rest of the population. Lots of them in BC. LOL

That's too funny- the shaved head- I have a couple friends who went that route too! Still has an "edge" to it, but is not pathetic the way someone who is balding but still has (some) long hair!

I like my head shaved; it's kind of fun. Done it a couple times. But it's too extreme for my line of work.