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But, they do tend to overwhelm the carrying capacity of the land they take over. I understand it's quite a mess after they leave, for which the taxpayers wind up footing the bill.
That's often the case. Any time you get hundreds of people in one spot in the woods for a week, Leave No Trace ain't happening...
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There is a big permanent population of them in Taos, NM. Most of em were decent sorts and many of them are "Trust Fund babies" that get money once a month from a family trust. The ones with Dreadlocks who drive Mercedes and live in mountain towns are commonly referred to as Trustafarians. That's funny!! It's as much the attitude of the Rainbows as their huge numbers that destroy an area where they gather. They're dirty people who don't care about anything other than themselves.
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The hippie movement is not a bunch of miscreants, though. I live right here in hippie central, in Eugene. I know some wonderful, productive people who if you saw them walking down the street you might call them a hippie. Yet they are great parents, productive workers, very interesting, intelligent people... etc. Jeff: Is they have jobs, they ain't hippies--by definition (conservative definition, that is). Those long haired folks with JOBS and tie dyed shirts, subarus, and birkenstocks are called "liberals." The long haired folks ON WELFARE wearing tie dyed shirts, driving ancient VW buses, with dirty fingernails, and a substance abuse problem are called "hippies." BMT Pretty good definition BMT, but you forgot the SMELL!!! HIPPIES STINK!!!
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The hippie movement is not a bunch of miscreants, though. I live right here in hippie central, in Eugene. I know some wonderful, productive people who if you saw them walking down the street you might call them a hippie. Yet they are great parents, productive workers, very interesting, intelligent people... etc. Jeff: Is they have jobs, they ain't hippies--by definition (conservative definition, that is). Those long haired folks with JOBS and tie dyed shirts, subarus, and birkenstocks are called "liberals." The long haired folks ON WELFARE wearing tie dyed shirts, driving ancient VW buses, with dirty fingernails, and a substance abuse problem are called "hippies." BMT Pretty good definition BMT, but you forgot the SMELL!!! HIPPIES STINK!!! It's what they are smokin' that smells!
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Indeed! It's also a result of being too wash up, or drop their drawers when they go to the bathroom.
"Soap isn't part of Mother Nature, Maaannnn........"
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. --Winston Churchill
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Back when I was a musician in WY I had long hair as did several of the other �pickers�. A couple of us went to Ft. Collins one night for some beer and to try and score a couple of those shaved hippie chicks. One of the Ft. Collins college-hippies mistakenly thought we were one of them until I pointed out a few things to him.
We had showered that day.
We weren�t wearing or smoking anything made from hemp.
The Copenhagen in the back pocket
No patchouli.
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Funny thing my 4 year old boy started out of the blue. We had been visiting a old hippie town called Jerome up near Presscott Arizona, and he was asking about the people. The conversation went like this ME: Stephen do you want to be a hippie when you grow up? Stephen: No Daddy they stink!!!
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Back in the heartland, Thank God!
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There is a big permanent population of them in Taos, NM. Most of em were decent sorts and many of them are "Trust Fund babies" that get money once a month from a family trust. We call those, "Trustafarians" around here! :-)
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On a more philosophical note, I think what is missing from our society is any sense of tribalism. The modern-day hippie movement (the only one I have any real familiarity with, being that I was just a kid in the 60's) is all about tribalism and FAMILY. So, I think that it can be a powerful draw for young kids raised in some bland suburb somewhere. Everybody want to belong to something visceral and "real"- especially young people.
As a guitar-picker and recording studio owner from way back I guess maybe I've been around this stuff a lot more than most of you... lots of great hippie or semi-hippie musicians out there. I think some of you would be appalled at how some of the very talented people I've worked with LOOKED on the outside... but creative interesting people sometimes look a little... interesting.
You know, the back to the earth movement, IE people moving way back in the woods, has led to a sub-class of hippie (here in western Oregon anyway) best described as, perhaps, redneck hippies or hippie rednecks. In some ways I resemble that remark and I'm proud of it. In the realm of ideas of how to live, the hippies have some good ones... and if you pick and choose from this philosophy and that one, you can assemble your own Rube Goldberg-esque life philosophy that, well, works for me!
Peace, brutha's! :-)
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Yipes! I better go hop in the shower. :-)
Not a session I'm involved with, but Josh is running a 3-day session out in my studio right now that will bring me about $700... yeah they are dressed like hippies but do I care? Nope! Really nice people too, a school teacher and engineer among them... acoustic band (guitars, standup bass, ukelele, violin, washboard percussion) playing sort of gypsy swing, if anyone here is familiar with that. Very cool music.
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Funny thing my 4 year old boy started out of the blue. We had been visiting a old hippie town called Jerome up near Presscott Arizona, and he was asking about the people. The conversation went like this ME: Stephen do you want to be a hippie when you grow up? Stephen: No Daddy they stink!!! That would indeed be a proud moment! You must be raising your son right.
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Yipes! I better go hop in the shower. :-)
Not a session I'm involved with, but Josh is running a 3-day session out in my studio right now that will bring me about $700... yeah they are dressed like hippies but do I care? Nope! Really nice people too, a school teacher and engineer among them... acoustic band (guitars, standup bass, ukelele, violin, washboard percussion) playing sort of gypsy swing, if anyone here is familiar with that. Very cool music. Cool music indeed. Easy to mike too.
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Yep! Especially since the flat-top player/singer is just a scratch track... miking a person singing and playing a flat top guitar for KEEPER tracks can be a real PITA with the phase relationship between the two mics causing havoc, the player moving around, etc.
There's also a drummer playing a tiny kit that we put in the big iso booth and miked with two mikes... a kick mike, and a $2500 tube mic set to OMNI up above him... sounds fantastic.
It helps to have great gear <g>. Josh has about $25k worth of mics to choose from out there... and great preamps... this session is going straight into Pro Tools (after the outboard mic preamps) but usually, with more rock-n-roll type stuff we'd go to 16-trk analog tape first, then dump it into the 'puter.
Billhilly, you and I could have some fun over a few beers! What's your main guitar(s)? I'm a Martin guy but I have a couple other really neat acoustics- a '49 Epi Broadway being one very special one.
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LMAO...trustafarians...that's funny I don't care who you are. Telluride and the Aspen/Carbondale valley are thick with them. 'Cept mostly packaged in Beemers and Saabs.
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Funny thing my 4 year old boy started out of the blue. We had been visiting a old hippie town called Jerome up near Presscott Arizona, and he was asking about the people. The conversation went like this ME: Stephen do you want to be a hippie when you grow up? Stephen: No Daddy they stink!!! That would indeed be a proud moment! You must be raising your son right. Very similar conversation if you ask him if he wants to be a liberal when he grows up. ME: Stehpen, do you want to be a liberal when you grow up? Stephen: No Daddy, because they suck!! Honest we have never coached him to say thing either. Yesterday he asked me "Daddy will you buy me a wireless phone?"
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Jeff, I�m a bass guy. I use an old plywood Englehardt with a high-tech sm58 wrapped in a dish towel wedged under the tailpiece for recording and an Azola EUB and assorted other electrified customs for the live stuff.
I still like the 2� tape before the puter myself as well. Seems warmer to me.
Let me know when you�re ready for them beers
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The Rainbow Family had one of their big gatherings up in northern NM back in about 97 or 98, up on the Carson NF. The gathering spot was right where I'd hoped we could put out elk camp in October. The last of them pulled out in early August and I walked over the area on a scouting trip. You could tell a lot of vehicles and people had been there from the way the grass was beaten down and the condition of the road, but there was no trash, no fire pits, and no other sign. A couple of months later, you could never tell that a few thousand people had camped there. I don't know if all their gatherings are as conscientious, but that particular event impressed me.
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