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Posted By: amax155 Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
He aint got a clue on how to answer these questions without a teleprompter. laugh
Posted By: 25souper Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Yes I was until I saw the 800,000,000,000 read god help us
He's a buffoon
teleprompter??? in a Q&A session??? hmmm
Posted By: bearmgc Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Can't watch more than a couple minutes of him. A "bluffoon"...
Posted By: remfak Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
What an absolute friggin moron!!! I still can't believe so many people voted this mother fu*ker into office. I have never, ever, seen a President struggle to answer questions! "Um, mm, and, uh, that". What a bozo!!
Posted By: Barkoff Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Is it my imagination, but in the past weren't reporters picked after raising their hands? Obama seems to have a list he is choosing off of.

Wouldn't this suggest that the reporters had to submit their questions ahead of time, time enough to cherry pick and prepare?

Am I wrong on this, did Bush have a predetermined list?

Nobody has the balls to ask him what he is doing so far to hunt down Bin Ladin?

Helen Thomas.."these so called terrorists".

WTF is the Huffington Post doing there asking questions?
Posted By: MagMarc Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Welcome to the Jimmy Carter years take 2.
Posted By: twodogs Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
BUFFOON

I think I used that one too, on the other thread. smile

I turned him off shortly after it started. Just about the time he forgot to mention we could create real jobs and real results by exploiting our technologies in the energy arena, coal, nuke, oil and gas.
No pork in this bill that is nicknamed Porkulous by evil right winger Rush Limbaugh. Pork is offensive to our new friends, the Islamic terrorists.
Posted By: RJD Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
I can't believe he's still breathing!
i noticed the same thing like they where cherry picked
Posted By: AFTERUM Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
I just can't watch.....
Anyone watching the Prez?

Hell NO
Holy crap we are in for a long 4 yrs...most dopes thst voted for him still don't have a clue the crap storm they ordered up....
Posted By: CWG Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
watching what? Is he on?
Yah were are the hard questions. George would have had them. No he's getting a pass and spreading more Obama BS.

They have even figured out how to bring accountability into giving out the second half of the first bailout and he's rushing to get more. I say sort out the good use of what is left and then and only then you get more but much less than you're asking for. Cut out the pork this isn't communtiy planning 101.
Posted By: Barkoff Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
How is he it he blames the congress for the outrageous spending that lead to this mess that he "inherited" but acts as if he wasn't a part of the Congress?
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Opening speech was exceptional, with all the polish (minus the subtle fatherly aspect) of Reagan and the crisp execution of Clinton, if not better; this guy really knows how to lay in a speech...gotta respect that.

Question answering. Very measured, but his answers go on forever, and when you do that, everyone in the room knows you're making it up as you go along. His response to the Iran question was really weak. You get the sense that he understands the gravity of the situation, and has put some thought to it, but in the end, hasn't come up with a damn thing...welcome to the presidency; no one for the last 30 years has had a real answer to the Iran thing.

It was encouraging to hear that he feels that a nuclear Iran is a destabilizing thing in the middle east, and this is the first time I've heard him mention Israel in any sort of sympathetic mannor. I get the impression that the pentagon has been briefing him and that reality is starting to gain some small ground over leftist ideology.

Keep in mind, I'm very independent, so I don't see things as a Republican or a Democrat. I see the good and bad, and I don't necessarily see Obama as a whole lot worse than Bush or McCain. I just see the areas where they suck as different.

I welcome some of Obama's foreign policy and even some of his domestic policy; and then I cringe on some of his foreign policy as well as his domestic policy...Just like I did under Bush.

Why can't they be reasonable and do things my way???
Posted By: bigwhoop Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
I am forcing myself to watch. His speaking style is really bothersome. I did put a bid in for him on Gunbroker.
The road to socialism has begun!
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Is it my imagination, but in the past weren't reporters picked after raising their hands? Obama seems to have a list he is choosing off of.

Wouldn't this suggest that the reporters had to submit their questions ahead of time, time enough to cherry pick and prepare?

Am I wrong on this, did Bush have a predetermined list?

Nobody has the balls to ask him what he is doing so far to hunt down Bin Ladin?

Helen Thomas.."these so called terrorists".

WTF is the Huffington Post doing there asking questions?


Skippy said he wouldn't be taking questions at random a few weeks ago. The WH is selecting journalists before pressers that can ask questions and I believe they have to submit the questions beforehand as well.

Welcome to 1984.
Posted By: Barkoff Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
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It was encouraging to hear that he feels that a nuclear Iran is a destabilizing thing in the middle east,


But didn't use the term that many others have used.."unacceptable"
Posted By: isaac Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
When I heard the Obamanator say "I inherited this mess" for the 4th time in 20 minutes, I volunteered to do the dishes.
Posted By: rost495 Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
and I don't necessarily see Obama as a whole lot worse than Bush or McCain. I just see the areas where they suck as different.


Wow that says a lot, I think.
At least you'll get some brownie points from the real Cheif....
Posted By: isaac Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
She just laid on the couch and yelled out to me everytime he said it or alluded to it.

Talk about a "CMA" speech!
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Opening speech was exceptional, with all the polish (minus the subtle fatherly aspect) of Reagan and the crisp execution of Clinton, if not better; this guy really knows how to lay in a speech...gotta respect that.

Question answering. Very measured, but his answers go on forever, and when you do that, everyone in the room knows you're making it up as you go along. His response to the Iran question was really weak. You get the sense that he understands the gravity of the situation, and has put some thought to it, but in the end, hasn't come up with a damn thing...welcome to the presidency; no one for the last 30 years has had a real answer to the Iran thing.

It was encouraging to hear that he feels that a nuclear Iran is a destabilizing thing in the middle east, and this is the first time I've heard him mention Israel in any sort of sympathetic mannor. I get the impression that the pentagon has been briefing him and that reality is starting to gain some small ground over leftist ideology.

Keep in mind, I'm very independent, so I don't see things as a Republican or a Democrat. I see the good and bad, and I don't necessarily see Obama as a whole lot worse than Bush or McCain. I just see the areas where they suck as different.

I welcome some of Obama's foreign policy and even some of his domestic policy; and then I cringe on some of his foreign policy as well as his domestic policy...Just like I did under Bush.

Why can't they be reasonable and do things my way???


I'm game. Tell me what part of Obama's domestic and foreign policy you look forward to. Specific policy changes, not just the ambiguous, generic, feel good stuff the masses have been passing around.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by bigwhoop
I did put a bid in for him on Gunbroker.
The road to socialism has begun!
Now that's voting with your wallet, bravo wink

I find myself shopping EBR's (Evil Battle Rifles) as a salute to Obama and Pelosi.
Posted By: shreck Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Watch as Obamassa� goes grey. First at the temples, later all over. I almost feel sorry for the socalist.
I wouldn't waste my time. He'll NEVER be my president!!!!!
negative
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by Foxbat
I'm game. Tell me what part of Obama's domestic and foreign policy you look forward to. Specific policy changes, not just the ambiguous, generic, feel good stuff the masses have been passing around.
FB, you and I have gone round and round on this one, but I'll play along.

Energy (deja-vu all over again???) with the exception of no domestic drilling and nuclear, I think Obama's energy plan is the first realistic plan to come along in a long time. Bush started the ball rolling with the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and then watered it down with the 2007 version. Obama's plan is solid with the exception of nuclear and domestic drilling. Even without those two, his investment in alternative energy resources (non-alternative needs no investment, they work), is excellent.

On foreign policy:

Negotiating with Iran: For the past 30 years we have taken a hard line with Iran and it has netted us dick. Negotiating can't hurt...really, it can't.

Missile shield in Eastern Europe: Stupid waste of resources. Missile shield...good idea. Eastern Europe, against Russia, where MAD has worked for 55 years; big waste of money. Russia gets it, play with us and we'll level you back to the stone ages.

Now, spend that money placing a missile shield in Israel, Japan, South Korea and India...now you're talking most bang for the buck. Eastern Europe is the least bang for the buck. Russia knows and respects our Boomers and Bombers.
Idiot, moron , bafoon, idgit, smuck, numbskull, dweeb, simpleton, jerk, imbisil, jerkoff, ...
Posted By: Barkoff Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
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Obama's plan is solid with the exception of nuclear and domestic drilling. Even without those two, his investment in alternative energy resources (non-alternative needs no investment, they work), is excellent.



Well you pass on nuclear & domestic drilling as casual exceptions that really are the only proven viable solutions, the rest is theory.

Wind, wave, solar, bio-diesel, ethanol, these are all alternative energy that have been paraded, then turned out to be rank with unintended problems and not as efficient as most had hoped.

Obama will chose to put the money in the unproven and virtually will ignore what is reliable and proven (nuclear, domestic drilling), and you call that a good energy policy?
I have no prez
Posted By: nemesis Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Opening speech was exceptional, with all the polish (minus the subtle fatherly aspect) of Reagan and the crisp execution of Clinton, if not better; this guy really knows how to lay in a speech...gotta respect that.



Just what you'd expect from a used car salesman isn't it?
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
[quote=Foxbat]On foreign policy:

Negotiating with Iran: For the past 30 years we have taken a hard line with Iran and it has netted us dick. Negotiating can't hurt...really, it can't.


What hard line? Saber rattling. Now if we'd bombed their one refinery or the two oil shipping terminals you could say hardline. Our issues with them would have ended. We wouldn't have even needed to envade just an air and sea blockade nothing in nothing out. Six months max and the world would have known the paper tiger was no more.

Hard line you're not fooling anyone with that BS.
Posted By: Joel/AK Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Nah, I didnt watch the circus. I had to watch paint dry. at least the paint didnt BS me or spend my money on stupid crap.

Posted By: Foxbat Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
No energy plan, without increasing short/mid term supply, will be effective. The Dem's have paid lip service to alternative energy for decades, but when the time comes to build it, they don't want it in their backyard. One need only look to Cape Cod and the support the limousine liberals have given the Cape Wind project.

Investing in alternative energy is fine with me, but we've heard this song the last three presidents and worse, this one has no interest in keeping supply up in the interim, until the investments can pan out or be built. The result will be European oil prices in a country that requires cheap transportation to survive. We don't have European ass transit and we're three times as large as Europe, not to mention we are not urban centric like they are. The result will be further economic heartache in order to make a few of Obama's special interest groups happy and what happens if technology isn't there after the investments to keep up with rising demand and decreasing domestic supply? He's betting our future on a horse that's never raced.

We will have to agree to disagree on Iran. I'll bet a case of beer, kissing their arse won't net us any change and his approach will likely weaken our standing in the middle east as these people do not respect weakness, which is what Iran is already perceiving from Obama by their mocking of him this past week.

Missile shields aren't high on my priority list. You may be right, you may not be. I simply haven't given it much thought as a high priority issue.

I have to say if those few items are enough to leave you enthusiastic, I envy the small plate you're concerned with. Obama's policies that have me nervous and concerned, number in the dozens.
When he starts negotiating with Iran he's going to end up like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Opening speech was exceptional, with all the polish (minus the subtle fatherly aspect) of Reagan and the crisp execution of Clinton, if not better; this guy really knows how to lay in a speech...gotta respect that.



I hear Adolph could give a whale of a speech as well. wink
Yeah, I just took an after dinner dump and looked at the terd in the bowl before I flushed.
Posted By: rpowell Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
i don't remember who called obama a bafoon, but i think they meant a baboon.
It's not one man....it is the majority of people that think his way is the correct way, and the politicians that have to ride side-saddle to keep their position(s). We created it.....so it shouldn't hold much shock value.

Different socio-economic times....same dance, far as I can see.

He is simply a mouth for the majority of sentiment that was already in play.

He is less the threat....for the weight of his following. It's a perspective riddled with people that actually think that the government can give them something they can't afford themselves.

Somewhere, in the numbers...we lost our clearity and direction as independent people that cherished the basic freedom(s) that comes from hard times and difficult choices.

Just my worthless assessment of the dance.

Off to run my dogs....before I get in a pizz poor mood<grin>....
No, I am not watching or listening to him.
He just can't stop campaigning.........no real substance to any of his response, just more & more generalizing or evasion.

We are in for a bad time until he, Piglosi & Reid are replaced.

MM
Where do you start?

1) "not a single earmark". Liar.

2) "Tax cuts alone, don't work". Tax cuts increase revenue every time it's done!

It's the spending Stupid

3) On the war: He now claims there is a working democracy in Iraq. mad mad mad mad

4) Hey Bozo, YOU were a member of the senate when the SPENDING orgy was going on. HE was part of the problem!

This man is flat out ridiculous.
Posted By: rpowell Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
i still say he is a baboon.
At this point I'm just going with deceitful, manipulative and WRONG to boot.
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
He just can't stop campaigning.........no real substance to any of his response, just more & more generalizing or evasion.

We are in for a bad time until he, Piglosi & Reid are replaced.

MM


That's because campaigning and giving speeches is actually the only real skills he has. The country just elected a guy that has never served in the military, never run a company, and even when he was in congress, he voted "present" over a hundred times instead of taking a position.

He is a an empty suit, a paper tiger etc who has accomplished absolutely NOTHING in life except fooling the people into thinking that he HAS accomplished EVERYTHING in life. He is simply a snake oil salesman.
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot

He is simply a snake oil salesman.


Now you're giving him a lot more credit than he deserves snake oil salesman have to work hard for a living.
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
[quote He is simply a snake oil salesman.
[/quote]

That would be an upward interpretation... a more concerning one is that he is a Trojan horse with "really bad" people pulling his strings...
Posted By: GeoW Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
I wonder who shines the insides of the Magic Doods ears? Right spiffy grin

Really, the teleprompters in a press conference? Get real!

g
Posted By: Jeepers Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
I'm embarrassed to be living under this president now. I was never "embarrassed" under Bush, despite the world's hatred of him. But this one. This one is, well, unpresidential and YOUNG.
He has BALL'S the size of BB'S & a spine made of JELLO!
Posted By: ConradCA Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
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Negotiating with Iran: For the past 30 years we have taken a hard line with Iran and it has netted us dick. Negotiating can't hurt...really, it can't.


The Demos have lied their way into power and this is one of them.

You dont know what your talking about. We have been talking to Iran for years and it has gotten us no were. The Europeans have been doing the talking, but they have been consulting with us. This has netted us dick.

Nogotiations with Iran

Originally Posted by Barkoff
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Obama's plan is solid with the exception of nuclear and domestic drilling. Even without those two, his investment in alternative energy resources (non-alternative needs no investment, they work), is excellent.



Well you pass on nuclear & domestic drilling as casual exceptions that really are the only proven viable solutions, the rest is theory.

Wind, wave, solar, bio-diesel, ethanol, these are all alternative energy that have been paraded, then turned out to be rank with unintended problems and not as efficient as most had hoped.

Obama will chose to put the money in the unproven and virtually will ignore what is reliable and proven (nuclear, domestic drilling), and you call that a good energy policy?

Spot on Barkoff!, Spot on.

Methinks Kevin has been sneaking too many sips from the koolaid jug. wink
Near the beginning of his speech , Obama said that ONLY THE GOVERNMENT could fix this thing. He blamed Bush and the private sector for the money mess we are in. Something he failed to mention was Barney Frank and cohorts compliance with Sallie and Freddy.

He lied about pork spending. Not one reporter had the nads to question any of the free giveaways in this bill. Toatally shameful.

BP...
Oh I'm sure the right questions were there, they just didn't make the pre selected list.

BO is already frustrated, so early in the game & he's showing a lot of frustration. He's using every opportunity to defend himself, he looks like an idiot up there, it's sickening to watch.

Reminds me of Jr high school kids running to their group of friends to campaign for themselves, build themselves up after finding out that some of the other kids are not exactly in love with him/her and there ideas.

It�s like he�s upset to be finding that the rainbow wave of mindless bliss that got him elected is powerless against real issues, real problems.

Big boy problems, presidential even.

Moron, who will play him on Saturday night Live? I can�t wait, they should have a lot of fun with the character.


Posted By: GunGeek Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Well you pass on nuclear & domestic drilling as casual exceptions that really are the only proven viable solutions, the rest is theory.
Alternative energy sources have proven to be viable, but need further development. The idea is to spend this stimulus money to develop those energy sources. Nuclear and oil are fully developed and proven, so you don't need to spend any money, you just need to let it happen. You do that through pressuring your representatives. Whether he likes it or not, in the coming years, he's going to have to allow nuclear because we desperately need it. As for drilling, that's going to be a battle.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by StubbleDuck
Methinks Kevin has been sneaking too many sips from the koolaid jug. wink
Many people think that...I'm not offended.

I work in energy and study it every day. Alternative energy sources have no more problems than the proven sources did when they started up. If we invest in alternative energy, it will make 100x more difference to the energy equation than domestic drilling (and all for domestic drilling).
Posted By: CWG Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
I think Hussiens auntie would have been an EXCELLENT president. She knows how to save every penny, stay under the radar of government and knows what its like to have a crap job.
SHE has experience! Barrys just a finger pointer and whiner.

Obama says: Only gov can fix this problem?
Obama says: Quit listening to (insert private citizen)
Obama says: he will drop another trillion if this package doesn't work???? WTF, then ah, WHY are we dropping the hammer on this package in the first place???
Even my one and only real black friend is beginning to wonder where the dude on the campaign trail went to.
Was Mccain really our only choice??
Posted By: Ready Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
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Alternative energy sources have no more problems than the proven sources did when they started up. If we invest in alternative energy, it will make 100x more difference to the energy equation than domestic drilling (and all for domestic drilling).


+1. I hope, we learn that before everything is drilled apart.
Posted By: Stan V Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Drilled apart? What does that mean....that it's possible to split the earth?

Geez, I see a new global threat from the oil industry coming.

Originally Posted by 25souper
Yes I was until I saw the 800,000,000,000 1,300,000,000,000 read god help us


Fixed it for you.
Posted By: burner Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
What president? I thought we were like Somalia now -- leaderless.
Posted By: CWG Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Anyone hear the quote where bambam has the cure for oil??


OBAMA: "We could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and -- and -- and getting regular tune-ups, you can actually save just as much."
Posted By: Steve_NO Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by Foxbat

Skippy said he wouldn't be taking questions at random a few weeks ago. The WH is selecting journalists before pressers that can ask questions and I believe they have to submit the questions beforehand as well.

Welcome to 1984.



Can you imagine the hue and cry if a Republican did that?
Posted By: Redneck Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Did anyone notice older-than-dirt Helen Thomas in the front row when she tried to ask a question? P-BO just totally ignored her and went right over her and to the right to take a question from the next libby on his list.

Only thing good about the whole night...

I did, i wonder what she was trying to say?

Posted By: GunGeek Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by cmg
+1. I hope, we learn that before everything is drilled apart.
Thanks for the support, but I'm actually for domestic drilling.
Posted By: GunGeek Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by Redneck
Did anyone notice older-than-dirt Helen Thomas in the front row when she tried to ask a question? P-BO just totally ignored her and went right over her and to the right to take a question from the next libby on his list.

Only thing good about the whole night...

Yeah, that was good; I'm tired of that wind bag.
Posted By: Ready Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
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Alternative energy sources have no more problems than the proven sources did when they started up. If we invest in alternative energy.


Thanks for the support. All I am saying, is lets not drill everything apart and then start on alternatives when we could start now, while drilling.

Maybe just me, but I value unspoiled wilderness, I just do not have enough dough to pay for it. wink
Posted By: Barkoff Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by KevinGibson
Originally Posted by Barkoff
Well you pass on nuclear & domestic drilling as casual exceptions that really are the only proven viable solutions, the rest is theory.
Alternative energy sources have proven to be viable, but need further development. The idea is to spend this stimulus money to develop those energy sources. Nuclear and oil are fully developed and proven, so you don't need to spend any money, you just need to let it happen. You do that through pressuring your representatives. Whether he likes it or not, in the coming years, he's going to have to allow nuclear because we desperately need it. As for drilling, that's going to be a battle.


Viable on paper. Being that I work for a company in CA that prides itself on cutting edge green, we have abandoned our efforts on bio diesel.

Our mechanics were wearing themselves thin changing clogged fuel filters along the side of the highways. They promised us a additive that never materialized, and the whole experiment cost the company thousands. Ethanol we are finding cost more to produce and more gallons to arrive at the same destination. We can't supply enough of it to quench our thirst at least for the years to come. All of these alternatives are in their infancy and still need to be worked on to develop the right product and then figure out how to supply in huge numbers that are needed in this country.

Is there doubt in your mind that oil will be our primary source of energy and transportation for at least the next ten to twenty years?

So why send billions to countries that despise us when in a few years we could be keeping all those dollars in the USA, pay off our debts and provide jobs on top of it, and not have to concern ourselves as much with the middle eastern mess?

The only reason, is Barak Obama bowing down to liberal environmentalist, and for that we send billions to other countries and put our national security at risk. That is not good energy policy!.

Posted By: W7ACT Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
I'd much rather watch the Military Channel even though for some reason they have a fixation on Hitler's Body Guard as it appears that's all they want to run on that channel anymore.

Maybe it's an omen as to what's happening in this country, with Obama, could it be a parallel to that sad event in history and thhis is what has become of this country.
Posted By: BMT Re: Anyone watching the Prez? - 02/10/09
Originally Posted by MagMarc
Welcome to the Jimmy Carter years take 2.


Spooky part is that Jimmy Carter was a sharper tool.

Jimmy was just a misguided liberal.

Barak is that AND incapable of practical thoughts.

BMT
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