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Posted By: gitano Real-life Reloading Practices 2 - 02/15/10
I did not find a "poll" option on the editor, so please forgive the clumsiness of creating a poll in a thread.

As you may be able to tell from the thread title, this is hte second in a series of questions I am asking regarding REAL reloading practices. As such, I will be repeating most of the "background" I presented in the first one.

I am interested in the ACTUAL practices of ACTUAL reloaders regarding some elements of reloading. Please only reply if you are a reloader and you ARE using/not using the practices I list below. There's nothing nefarious going on, nor are there any "hidden agendas". I'm not a lawyer and this has nothing to do with "business" of any sort. It's simply a discussion among a few friends regarding what to tell folks considering getting into reloading.

In the context of "full disclosure":

I am not particularly "fond" of those that practice one thing, and tell others to "do" something else. I find this behavior all too common among our nation's lawmakers, as well as among MANY reloaders. They are very quick to tell others how they are supposed to behave, but don't come close to that behavioral standard themselves. In the case of advising those new to reloading, or contemplating starting reloading, I think such "advice" is discouraging and ultimately harmful. (Just as the same behavior is harmful when our legislators practice it.)

So here's the first pair of questions:

I DO NOT HAVE IN MY HOUSE MORE PRIMERS THAN THAT AMOUNT THAT SATIFIES MY IMMEDIATE RELOADING NEEDS. I HAVE A SPECIAL FIRE-PROOF STORAGE "SAFE" FOR STORING MY PRIMERS.

I KEEP AS MANY AS 1000 PRIMERS IN MY HOUSE AT ANY ONE TIME. AND I HAVE NO SPECIAL "SAFE" TO KEEP THEM IN.

Now, I'm NOT suggesting that "primer safes" aren't a "good idea' FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO USE THEM. Nor am I saying that you should have a stockpile of primers on hand that would make Sportsman's Warehouse jealous. What I am "opposed to" is telling a newby that they "HAVE" to have a "primer safe" if they intend to reload, and if they don't, they are being "irresponsible" and they are "hurting all of us in the shooting community". Frankly, the last phrase annoys the hades out of me.

Again, in the context of "full disclosure":
I have been reloading for exactly 45 years, six months and four days, and I have never had a "primer safe". Futhermore, I have used for more than 40 years, that "dangerous device" the automatic primer tube on the RCBS press in the presence of my "stockpile" of 1000 or more primers. I have all my fingers and toes and faculties, and have never been to or needed to go to the emergency room.

So, IF YOU RELOAD, I'm interested in WHAT YOU ACTUALLY DO, not what you THINK every body else should do. IF YOU DON'T RELOAD but you are the OSHA representative for your union shop, please save your opinions for a thread you start. It isn't OPINIONS I'm seeking, it's ACTUAL PRACTICE.

Thanks for your time and honesty.

Paul
Nope, none of those, just primer cord and dynomite grin grin WTF mad
I think an option for 'No one's [bleep] business' should be allowed.
I keep my stuff in the oven.

Not the bullets, just the primers and powder.

Used to keep them by the fireplace, but my nephew thru some in during the Holidays and was blown into the Christmas tree, setting it on fire. wink
"I think an option for 'No one's [bleep] business' should be allowed."

That's the default option. You can select it by not commenting.

Paul
wow...
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I think an option for 'No one's [bleep] business' should be allowed.


From the responses, I'm getting the feeling that others are thinking the same way, on the whole series of questions.

My thoughts? +1 to SH.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I think an option for 'No one's [bleep] business' should be allowed.


What he said.
I'm still trying to figure out what the question is...
C.
NYFB
I am with Steelhead on this one.
I use my primers more than once.

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I bury my primers in an ammo can on my neighbor's property.
Do you have a special designed CAD program to find them later, may need to hire a good surveyor. wink whistle

Kent
Originally Posted by krp
Do you have a special designed CAD program to find them later, may need to hire a good surveyor. wink whistle

Kent


If you know a know a good surveyor that can use CAD, let me know.

I've been drawing the map using charcoal on a large rock...
Lee24.... self allegedly....

give'm a call.

Kent
OH NO, not another Lee thread! laugh
Lost interest on the second paragraph of the first thread.

Felt compelled to comment about it a few lines into the second thread..
Not sure what the questions is!! I do have enough components to start a small insurrection and resupply the 101st Airborne Division at the same time. A 1000 primers on hand WTF. I have two Dillon 550s and hire teens after school to refill the primer tubes. Gotta go, here come the brown truck.
I keep mine in big glass pickle jars, with the blasting caps, above the dynamite,.......out by the chicken coop. There's hens all over that shelf, as I type.

Is this dangerous,....?

GTC
Originally Posted by gitano
It's simply a discussion among a few friends regarding what to tell folks considering getting into reloading.


Tell them to purchase a reloading manual (or two, or three) and start reading. That is how I did it. If a person is interested in reloading they can get advice from people they know and trust. If they don't know anyone who reloads and they are not capable of teaching themselves they should probably leave the powder and primers alone...

I was installing a ceiling fan last night, and the section of the instruction booklet that covered the wiring had a statement that basicaly said:

"If you do not understand these instructions, STOP and contact a qualified electrician."
Depends how you define "immediate needs."
I store everything in a temperature controlled enviroment to avoid the risk of humidity, extreme temp fluctuations, etc. My water heater closet serves this purpose very well. I've built shelves for powder, primers, fireworks, gas cans, volitile chemicals, paint and anything else that I don't want to git spoilt.

Gotta run, I smell something burning.

fish head
I tumble the brass till clean
I spray it with One Shot
I shove it into a sizer die
I retumble it to remove the lube
I shove a primer into it
I put some powder into it
I shove a bullet into it
I pull the trigger and it goes BOOM

What more do you need to know?
are you not supposed to keep your fertilizer diesel cans and powder and primerss together in the room with the fireplace and don't forget the 1/4 sticks for fishing
24 hours later:

While no one chose to answer the question, I don't think it's unreasonable to say that it's highly unlikely that any of the respondents use "fire safes".

Paul
Straight answer, no I don't wear saftey glasses. I have reading glasses down on my nose some because I'm blind up close, or my arms are too short. Of the 10's of thousands of rounds I have loaded I've had one primer pop. That was when I first started and was attempting to load military brass with a LEE Loader and did not know to trim the crimp out
I think the idea of storing even a several thousand primers in a fire safe is laughable. The original containers are plenty safe and will not mass detonate even in a fire.

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Thanks for your answer crosshair. It's the first non-joking one. However, I think you're referring to the other thread I started about glasses. This one is about primer storage. Still, I want to thank you again for an straight-forward answer.

Thanks to you in too BarryC. I appreciate the straight answer.

Paul
OK, I'll try to give a straight answer . . . well, mostly anyhow.

I keep as many primers on hand as will fit in the storage cabinet drawer. I'm not going to say what size the drawer is, though. I don't keep them in a "fire-proof" container. I do have more than 20 primers on hand at any given time, but do not have the hundreds of thousands of primers that some seem to need. I have only been reloading for about 15 years and have not had any reloading mishaps of any magnitude at all . . . at least not yet - but I go slow and do not try to set quantity benchmarks, either.
I'm not sure if you're intentionally trying to make people suspicious, naive, or attemping to accumulate information for some unspecified purpose. You ever been in a black helicopter?
I really don't understand the paranoia.

I asked straight-forward questions.

I explained EXACTLY why I was asking those questions.

I gave my backgound and personally answered the questions I asked.

I made NO suggestions that ANYONE should avoid using ANY device THEY CHOSE for their own safety.

While the number of posts I have made may be small, I have been a member at 24hr Campfire for years.

Good grief! Exactly what more could I do in trying to get straight answers to simple questions?

Paul
Ok, I'll bite, the reality is if the black helicopters think you have something they want, they already know about you.

I try to have at least 3000 primers in the ones that I shoot. Some, like Small pistol primers, I have 1000 more. It's what stacks on the shelf nicely and they are not in a fire safe, but on wood shelf in a concrete enclosure where I load. If you look at the photos provided earlier in your first question, you can see the primers stacked up in that old wooden office piece. Again, $30 at a flea market.
I have extras too.

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