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The Saudis did not appreciate Barack Hussein OBAMA's treasonous behavior and gave him a still lesson on how to treat friends and allies of the USA and of Saudi Arabia!

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/

SAUDIS TOLD OBAMA TO BACK MUBARACK

Saudi Arabia has threatened to prop up President Mubarak if the White House tries to force a swift change of regime in Egypt. In a testy personal telephone call on January 29, King Abdullah told President Obama not to humiliate Mr Mubarak and warned that he would step in to bankroll Egypt if the US withdrew its aid programme, worth $1.5 billion annually.

America�s closest ally in the Gulf made clear that the Egyptian President must be allowed to stay on to oversee the transition towards peaceful democracy and then leave with dignity.

�Mubarak and King Abdullah are not just allies, they are close friends, and the King is not about to see his friend cast aside and humiliated,� a senior source in the Saudi capital told The Times. Two sources confirmed details of the King�s call, made four days after the...


For the complete article, please go to the Times site.
Time for Hussein to rush to Riyadh and bow to the Saudi king again...
Originally Posted by deersmeller
The Saudis did not appreciate Barack Hussein OBAMA's treasonous behavior and gave him a still lesson on how to treat friends and allies of the USA and of Saudi Arabia!

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/

SAUDIS TOLD OBAMA TO BACK MUBARACK

Saudi Arabia has threatened to prop up President Mubarak if the White House tries to force a swift change of regime in Egypt. In a testy personal telephone call on January 29, King Abdullah told President Obama not to humiliate Mr Mubarak and warned that he would step in to bankroll Egypt if the US withdrew its aid programme, worth $1.5 billion annually.

America�s closest ally in the Gulf made clear that the Egyptian President must be allowed to stay on to oversee the transition towards peaceful democracy and then leave with dignity.

�Mubarak and King Abdullah are not just allies, they are close friends, and the King is not about to see his friend cast aside and humiliated,� a senior source in the Saudi capital told The Times. Two sources confirmed details of the King�s call, made four days after the...


For the complete article, please go to the Times site.


Well, a lower cast black muslim must heed this call!
is what they call one of those moments when the rubber meets the road?
Yes!

O knows his place.
BO must heed his masters like the dog he is... Heard on the news that the Saudi's are running out of oil...
Originally Posted by VAnimrod
Time for Hussein to rush to Riyadh and bow to the Saudi king again...
Bow AND grovel....
Posted By: DMB Re: Saudi's stiff scolding to BHO - 02/10/11
Let me see if I got this right..
The President of The United States had to call the King of Saudi Arabia to ask him how he (Obama) should treat the legitimate President of Egypt..
That speaks many volumes about the lack of character, maturity, loyalty and intellect of Obama.. Unfrigging believable..
Saudi King even "threatend" to cover our 1.5 billion dollar aid package to Egypt. Too bad Obama wont call his bluff. We will keep picking up the bill.
Un-freaking-believable... This article had to come from the UK, of course. How much longer until the US mainstream media start to recognize that this Keystone Kops administration is endangering the security of not only the USA, but the Middle East and the world at large? mad
Is anyone surprised?
Originally Posted by GreenHornet47
Is anyone surprised?


Not in the slightest.

Posted By: DMB Re: Saudi's stiff scolding to BHO - 02/10/11
Originally Posted by DocRocket
Un-freaking-believable... This article had to come from the UK, of course. How much longer until the US mainstream media start to recognize that this Keystone Kops administration is endangering the security of not only the USA, but the Middle East and the world at large? mad


Right on!
Originally Posted by Stan V

Well, a lower cast black muslim must heed this call!


But of course, the king is correct.

0bama made the incorrect call on this, just as one would expect from a lower caste black muslim.
Originally Posted by DMB
Let me see if I got this right..
The President of The United States had to call the King of Saudi Arabia to ask him how he (Obama) should treat the legitimate President of Egypt..
That speaks many volumes about the lack of character, maturity, loyalty and intellect of Obama.. Unfrigging believable..
Actually, I think it was the king who called the president, not the other way around. Must be great for BHO to pick up the phone and get an ass-chewin' from the king of Saudi Arabia.

Especially as the king is also the grand mullah of the Wahabs, the mos radical of Muslim sects....
It appears that despots and tyrants throughout the Middle East are now quaking - in their slippers, over the thought that they will not be allowed to deny their subjects political freedom for evermore - while still receiving their huge amounts of foreign aid..

I find it funny how many people around the fire have such strong feelings about freedom - and say things like - those who would trade security - for freedom - deserve neither. But then they do the most incredible flip-flop - when the freedom they're talking about - involves the freedom of people - who live in other countries.

It's an interesting phenomena.

Freedom - is the end all - and be all. The ultimate human right.

Unless you happen to live in in other countries.

Then - many of us - don't think it's all that important.
The freedom of people in other nations, while it is certainly a good thing and to be desired, is not the highest calling of US...or Canadian....foreign policy. The security of the US is paramount. And for the security of the region, an autocrat like Mubarek who will keep the peace and protect the Canal, may be a better option than a chaotic "democracy" with one vote leading to a Muslim brotherhood theocratic dictatorship. But we don't decide these things....

and BTW....when is the world going to pay attention to the repression going on now in Belarus, which makes anything Mubarek did look like Sunday school.
I wonder if the Saudi King will hold up "OIL" shipments to the U.S. as they did to Jimmy Carter?

Doc
Has the fuse been lit?
Originally Posted by GreenHornet47
Is anyone surprised?


Not a bit.
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
The freedom of people in other nations, while it is certainly a good thing and to be desired, is not the highest calling of US...or Canadian....foreign policy. The security of the US is paramount. And for the security of the region, an autocrat like Mubarek who will keep the peace and protect the Canal, may be a better option than a chaotic "democracy" with one vote leading to a Muslim brotherhood theocratic dictatorship. But we don't decide these things....

and BTW....when is the world going to pay attention to the repression going on now in Belarus, which makes anything Mubarek did look like Sunday school.


I see your point - and agree somewhat.

What is best for the west - might well be - a stable middle east. Even if it means the people of Egypt are governed by a dictator.

But - shouldn't we be doing what we can - to do what is best for the people of Egypt?

It's interesting to note - that about 235 years ago - the British thought it was OK to trample a people's freedom - as long as they could have stability in their colonies.

The American colonists had a problem with that - and gave rise to a country that stood for freedom.

Freedom - was more important to those Americans - than stability.

I suspect the same feelings would be true for today's Egyptians.

Is there any man here - who would prefer stable servitude to our occasionally chaotic freedom?

What is the most moral choice?

Because - whatever that is - the moral choice should always be the one we choose to support.
Mubarak's going, whether we like it or not. The question is, once her's gone, whether it's in our best interest to be seen as having backed him against the popular will. Events usually show that backing the loser hurts.
Posted By: BW Re: Saudi's stiff scolding to BHO - 02/11/11
The word is "caste" people, not "cast".
Originally Posted by BCBrian
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
The freedom of people in other nations, while it is certainly a good thing and to be desired, is not the highest calling of US...or Canadian....foreign policy. The security of the US is paramount. And for the security of the region, an autocrat like Mubarek who will keep the peace and protect the Canal, may be a better option than a chaotic "democracy" with one vote leading to a Muslim brotherhood theocratic dictatorship. But we don't decide these things....

and BTW....when is the world going to pay attention to the repression going on now in Belarus, which makes anything Mubarek did look like Sunday school.


I see your point - and agree somewhat.

What is best for the west - might well be - a stable middle east. Even if it means the people of Egypt are governed by a dictator.

But - shouldn't we be doing what we can - to do what is best for the people of Egypt?

It's interesting to note - that about 235 years ago - the British thought it was OK to trample a people's freedom - as long as they could have stability in their colonies.

The American colonists had a problem with that - and gave rise to a country that stood for freedom.

Freedom - was more important to those Americans - than stability.

I suspect the same feelings would be true for today's Egyptians.

Is there any man here - who would prefer stable servitude to our occasionally chaotic freedom?

What is the most moral choice?

Because - whatever that is - the moral choice should always be the one we choose to support.



I keep hearing the Egyptians are rioting for freedom. I have not seen one sign that says Freedom or Liberty, has anyone else noticed this?

Tim
Originally Posted by Glock2240
Originally Posted by BCBrian
Originally Posted by Steve_NO
The freedom of people in other nations, while it is certainly a good thing and to be desired, is not the highest calling of US...or Canadian....foreign policy. The security of the US is paramount. And for the security of the region, an autocrat like Mubarek who will keep the peace and protect the Canal, may be a better option than a chaotic "democracy" with one vote leading to a Muslim brotherhood theocratic dictatorship. But we don't decide these things....

and BTW....when is the world going to pay attention to the repression going on now in Belarus, which makes anything Mubarek did look like Sunday school.


I see your point - and agree somewhat.

What is best for the west - might well be - a stable middle east. Even if it means the people of Egypt are governed by a dictator.

But - shouldn't we be doing what we can - to do what is best for the people of Egypt?

It's interesting to note - that about 235 years ago - the British thought it was OK to trample a people's freedom - as long as they could have stability in their colonies.

The American colonists had a problem with that - and gave rise to a country that stood for freedom.

Freedom - was more important to those Americans - than stability.

I suspect the same feelings would be true for today's Egyptians.

Is there any man here - who would prefer stable servitude to our occasionally chaotic freedom?

What is the most moral choice?

Because - whatever that is - the moral choice should always be the one we choose to support.



I keep hearing the Egyptians are rioting for freedom. I have not seen one sign that says Freedom or Liberty, has anyone else noticed this?

Tim


Exactly.

They are rioting against Mubarak, not FOR anything, except "change".

I think we all know how well that can turn out...
Actually, yesterday there was a crowd chanting "Give me Liberty - or give me Death".
Originally Posted by BCBrian
Actually, yesterday there was a crowd chanting "Give me Liberty - or give me Death".


Link?
Posted By: DMB Re: Saudi's stiff scolding to BHO - 02/11/11
Originally Posted by Old_Writer
Originally Posted by DMB
Let me see if I got this right..
The President of The United States had to call the King of Saudi Arabia to ask him how he (Obama) should treat the legitimate President of Egypt..
That speaks many volumes about the lack of character, maturity, loyalty and intellect of Obama.. Unfrigging believable..
Actually, I think it was the king who called the president, not the other way around. Must be great for BHO to pick up the phone and get an ass-chewin' from the king of Saudi Arabia.

Especially as the king is also the grand mullah of the Wahabs, the mos radical of Muslim sects....


Thanks for the correction.
Any way you slice it, Mubarak is history. After he goes, there will be chaos, with the brotherhood ending up in control.

Ameture Hour At The White House

MICHAEL GOODWIN: Egypt Protests Prove That It's Amateur Hour at the Obama White House

By Michael Goodwin

Published February 07, 2011 | FoxNews.com

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In her 2008 race against Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton famously used a ringing red telephone to question Obama's national-security chops. "It's 3 a.m.," a narrator warned over video of a sleeping child. "Who do you want to answer the phone?"

We now know neither Obama nor Clinton was ready for the call from Egypt. Whatever the clock says, it's still amateur hour in this White House.

From the moment the demonstrations started 12 days ago, the foreign-policy team stumbled. Secretary of State Clinton said Hosni Mubarak's regime was "stable," and Vice President Joe Biden said Mubarak wasn't a dictator and shouldn't resign.

As the ranks of marchers swelled, Obama's instincts took him in the opposite direction. He quickly tried to push Mubarak out, first behind the scenes, then more publicly.

A measure of uncertainty in the face of the historic uprising is understandable, but American leaders have been serially certain. They have wholeheartedly embraced ever-shifting simplistic views, none of which fully reflects the obvious dangers ahead and the fallout from dumping an ally of 30 years.

It's almost like Super Bowl rooting. Packers or Steelers? Mubarak or demonstrators?

One result of turning on Mubarak came when press secretary Robert Gibbs said negotiations should include "non-secular actors."

Translation: The White House is ready to have the Muslim Brotherhood join the Egyptian government. Other officials confirmed that decision, even though a leader of the radical Islamist group said Egyptians "should be prepared for war against Israel."

He also said Egypt should close the Suez Canal and stop the flow of natural gas to Israel. Then Saturday, saboteurs attacked the gas pipeline to Jordan, and the one to Israel was shut as a precaution.

Meanwhile, the king of Jordan, the only Arab nation other than Egypt to have diplomatic relations with Israel, sacked the prime minister and met with Muslim Brotherhood leaders to try to stop demonstrations in his country.

Hello, the red phone is ringing.

Michael Goodwin is a New York Post columnist and Fox News contributor. To continue reading his column on other topics including former White House adviser Larry Summers, click here.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion...house/#ixzz1DQm9xLJU



BHO, keep diggin' that hole deeper. Change will come to Egypt, but it won't be good for their people or us.
Saw it on CNN - last night.

I know, I know - it's not "FOX" - so what I saw would be suspect - of course. wink
Change has come.

Mubarak resigned this morning.
Then, we're about to see, very quickly, whether you're right or not.

I truly hope so, but I sincerely doubt it.
yep they're free now, to install a more militant, radical gov't that doesn't recognize Israels right to exist.


my thoughts are this thing ultimately winds up with bombs bursting in air and nary a sight of Francis Scott Key


might be a good time to have alla your fuel tanks topped off fellas and keep em that way for as long as possible.

BHO has learned a lesson from all of this Egypt action:

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Originally Posted by deersmeller
The Saudis did not appreciate Barack Hussein OBAMA's treasonous behavior and gave him a still lesson on how to treat friends and allies of the USA and of Saudi Arabia!

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/

SAUDIS TOLD OBAMA TO BACK MUBARACK

Saudi Arabia has threatened to prop up President Mubarak if the White House tries to force a swift change of regime in Egypt. In a testy personal telephone call on January 29, King Abdullah told President Obama not to humiliate Mr Mubarak and warned that he would step in to bankroll Egypt if the US withdrew its aid programme, worth $1.5 billion annually.

America�s closest ally in the Gulf made clear that the Egyptian President must be allowed to stay on to oversee the transition towards peaceful democracy and then leave with dignity.

�Mubarak and King Abdullah are not just allies, they are close friends, and the King is not about to see his friend cast aside and humiliated,� a senior source in the Saudi capital told The Times. Two sources confirmed details of the King�s call, made four days after the...


For the complete article, please go to the Times site.


Not to be misconstrued as any support of Obama, but I wonder what the good King Abdullah has to say now?
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