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Posted By: 6mm250 Dogs Fighting Question - 04/09/11
My wife & I have 4 dogs in outside pens.
Joe the collie (male) has his own pen.
Skeeter the mutt (male) has his own pen.
Coco the chocolate lab (female) and Halo the boxer cross (female) share a pen.
My wife walks Joe every evening , when she gets back home & is putting Joe back in his pen the two bishes in the other pen start fighting. Coco the lab is the the instigator.
Ordinarily the two "girls" get along just fine , never a cross word between them , until my wife comes back from a walk with Joe.
Major battle this evening ,not the usual little scuffle , the two bishes are now in separate pens.
What the heck is going on here ? Why does putting Joe in his pen start a fight between the two ?

Mike
Posted By: shreck Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/09/11
Have a Korean BBQ. Problem solved.
Posted By: djs Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/09/11
Do women fight over you?
Posted By: 6mm250 Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/09/11
Originally Posted by shreck
Have a Korean BBQ. Problem solved.


Sounds like a plan


Mike
Posted By: 6mm250 Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/09/11
Originally Posted by djs
Do women fight over you?


Never frown


Mike
Posted By: okok Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/09/11
Bring the Bishes in the house, problem solved. laugh
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/10/11
I've never had good luck putting two females together. No problems putting males and females together.
Posted By: BrownDog Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/10/11
Originally Posted by 6mm250
My wife & I have 4 dogs in outside pens.
Joe the collie (male) has his own pen.
Skeeter the mutt (male) has his own pen.
Coco the chocolate lab (female) and Halo the boxer cross (female) share a pen.
My wife walks Joe every evening , when she gets back home & is putting Joe back in his pen the two bishes in the other pen start fighting. Coco the lab is the the instigator.
Ordinarily the two "girls" get along just fine , never a cross word between them , until my wife comes back from a walk with Joe.
Major battle this evening ,not the usual little scuffle , the two bishes are now in separate pens.
What the heck is going on here ? Why does putting Joe in his pen start a fight between the two ?

Mike


I'd speculate that it's displaced aggression stemming from one or more of the following factors:
1. Desire to get the hell out of the kennel and get attention from your wife;,
2. Frustration and desire of both bitches at not being able to get the attention from your wife that the collie is getting;
3. The lab being dominant over the boxer (thus feelinig free to direct frustrated aggression toward her).

All dogs get excited when your wife shows up with the collie. They all want to get attention and exercise. Their excitement turns into near frenzy and the lab expresses the frustration through aggression.

You need to watch their behavior closely and repeatedly to analyze it. I'll bet you can see the behavioral precursors and you'll be able to predict what's coming next. Then you just have to figure out how to divert them before the fight breaks out. I'll bet if your wife let the two bitches out of their shared kennel and interacted with them for awhile there would be no fight - unless they were really jealous of each other in which case the lab may be aggressive asserting dominance and "ownership" of the key resource - your wife.

But I'm a long way off and just speaking from my experience with dogs and just speculating.
Originally Posted by shreck
Have a Korean BBQ. Problem solved.



BINGO! grin
Pack dynamics can be really weird. I continually put my dogs in different situations to see how they react and behave. I expect good behavior from all of them. Sometimes you get tension, jealousy or a competition issue. My guess you have a competition issue. That can rear its ugly head at the strangest times and you can go months between incidents. I would mix them up, putting them in different situations to see if you can identify the issue. Good luck!!!!!!
Posted By: eyeball Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/10/11
Originally Posted by 6mm250
My wife & I have 4 dogs in outside pens.
Joe the collie (male) has his own pen.
Skeeter the mutt (male) has his own pen.
Coco the chocolate lab (female) and Halo the boxer cross (female) share a pen.
My wife walks Joe every evening , when she gets back home & is putting Joe back in his pen the two bishes in the other pen start fighting. Coco the lab is the the instigator.
Ordi
Major battle this evening ,not the usual little scuffle , the two bishes are now in separate pens.
What the heck is going on here ? Why does putting Joe in his pen start a fight between the two ? sorry to hear that. they are trying to compete for her friendship and letting their protectionist instinct overule their friendship. kids often do the same- they get along till a 'superior' aquaintance comes along and then forget their original friend. dr rc

Mike
Posted By: eyeball Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/10/11
sorry abt that-something messed up. mike-the two dogs are trying to compete for her friendship and their showing her their protectionist instinct for her. like two kids will get along fine but add another and alliances are struggled for. dr rc
Originally Posted by 6mm250
My wife & I have 4 dogs in outside pens.
Joe the collie (male) has his own pen.
Skeeter the mutt (male) has his own pen.
Coco the chocolate lab (female) and Halo the boxer cross (female) share a pen.
My wife walks Joe every evening , when she gets back home & is putting Joe back in his pen the two bishes in the other pen start fighting. Coco the lab is the the instigator.
Ordinarily the two "girls" get along just fine , never a cross word between them , until my wife comes back from a walk with Joe.
Major battle this evening ,not the usual little scuffle , the two bishes are now in separate pens.
What the heck is going on here ? Why does putting Joe in his pen start a fight between the two ?

Mike
Excitement causes it. One becomes unstable in the face of excitement and shows unstable behavior. In a natural pack, dogs attack unstable behavior in an effort to punish and suppress it. If the more unstable of the two doesn't settle down after a correction (a bite), or fights back, a fight ensues.
Posted By: MuskegMan Re: Dogs Fighting Question - 04/10/11

Sounds to me like you definately have 3, and maybe 4, too many dogs.
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