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Hell hath no fury like a pastor scorned by the Internet.

After a copy of her Applebee's receipt began circulating online yesterday, Pastor Alois Bell of the St. Louis-based Truth in the World Deliverance Ministries phoned up the restaurant and asked to have everyone involved fired.

"My heart is really broken," the 37-year-old told The Smoking Gun. "I've brought embarrassment to my church and ministry."

Last Friday, after evening services, Bell and her congregation headed to Applebee's for dinner as they did on many nights.

But a disagreement over the establishment's auto-gratuity of 18% for parties of 8 or more would soon propel the pastor to the heights of Internet infamy.

"I give God 10% why do you get 18," Bell wrote on her credit card receipt after crossing out the tip amount she was obliged to pay.

A server working at the restaurant uploaded a scan of the receipt to Reddit, and the rest is viral history.

Though Bell was denied her request to have a brand new staff awaiting her the next time she dined at her neighborhood Applebee's, she did succeed in getting at least one person fired: The waitress who posted the receipt online.

"I originally posted the note as a lighthearted joke," Chelsea Welch told Consumerist. "I thought the note was insulting, but it was also comical. I posted it to Reddit because I thought other users would find it entertaining."

They did � but Bell did not.

The pastor called it a "lapse in my character and judgment" that "has been blown out of proportion." Somewhat an ironic statement coming from someone who ordered Applebee's to fire everyone who came into contact with the receipt.

For her part, Welch did what she could to avoid having Bell's identity exposed, asking Reddit to stop posting the personal information of potential culprits.

In fact, Welch still isn't sure what exactly she did wrong.

"I didn't break any specific guidelines in the company handbook - I checked," said Welch, who had no complaints about her service prior to this week. "Because this person got embarrassed that their selfishness was made public, Applebee's has made it clear that they would rather lose a dedicated employee than lose an angry customer. That's a policy I can't understand."
Originally Posted by GeoW


The waitress should sue Applebee's , that Fat Black Slut and her church.
Figured she was a moon cricket
A black person that doesn't tip? That's odd...
Gotta wonder how well she and Jesus get along.
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
A black person that doesn't tip? That's odd...


especially when she is paying from the offering plate and not out of her pocket.
You want a good laugh...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKxAcDxIg1U
Originally Posted by Ken Howell
Gotta wonder how well she and Jesus get along.


Jesus will do just fine as long as he does not cross her.
Looks like that ole gal that one of my room mates picked up down on 3rd street and brought home way back when.

We had to get on him about it.

Nobody gave a chit about his personal life,...but she woke the whole apartment up at 2:30 AM hollerin' out, "TAKE IT DADDY!,.....TAKE IT DADDY!",..

It was decided that he had to have all extroverted hookers out of the apartment by 1 AM on work nights.

He didn't much like it,...but majority rules,...yanno?
Screw Applebee's they just lost our business.
Roommate must have been pretty desperate, drunk or both. grin
Originally Posted by Beargrease
Roommate must have been pretty desperate, drunk or both. grin


nah,...he was just crazy.

My youth is dotted with interactions with lots of crazy people.

I didn't realize that they were crazy back then,....'cause I was crazy too.
Originally Posted by eh76
Screw Applebee's they just lost our business.


They never had mine, I prefer the local non chain establishments anyway. A local owner would have told this fat cat to pound sand and laughed with the waitress. This chit hole serve the masses establishment is playing to the feel good PC masses....
I've been to Applebee's exactly once and swore then I'd never step foot in that chithole again. Worst service I've seen in my life! Can't imagine the waitress will have too tough of a time finding another job since this has hit the air.

As far as that "preacher" goes, FTFB!
I hope that due to this story the waitress gets new employment making 10x and the "offenders" get the karma that should be coming to them.
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
A black person that doesn't tip? That's odd...


My daughter worked her way through College waiting tables. She always disliked working the after church crowd. Black, for the most part, and they never tipped.
What language is she trying to speak.........WTH was that...... sick
My ex-wife worked at a Cheddars and hated waiting on black folks. She called them SPOTAS. Cuz they SPOTA tip but they never do.
If I were managing that Applebee's, her fat ass would get locked out next Sunday.
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223


Haha! I liked the first comment under the vid. "Paint a conoe black and it well never tip" laugh
welcome to st louis folks

And it was a sister, the pastor shafted.
Originally Posted by calikooknic
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223


Haha! I liked the first comment under the vid. "Paint a conoe black and it well never tip" laugh


That's gold

Waited tables through college. The dreaded black table .. never tipped and left a big mess.
looks to me like she has been embarrasing her church long before this happened.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
A black person that doesn't tip? That's odd...


My daughter worked her way through College waiting tables. She always disliked working the after church crowd. Black, for the most part, and they never tipped.

A pastor whom I used to know (dead now), when he was in seminary in the 1950s, was one of a carload of seminarians at a curb-service drive-in. They kept the carhop waiting in the rain while they took their sweet time deciding what they wanted to order.

During their decision process, one of 'em handed the carhop a "come to Jesus" tract.

Bless her heart, she tore the thing up and threw the pieces in his face.

(Oh, yes � they could've gone inside and sat at the counter or in a booth.)
Your being a racist. Your insults and anti-black statements are sickening and have no place in this web site or this discussion.

The auto tip is a scam. Tips are voluntary by definition. Forcing people to pay 18% defeats the purpose of tipping. No one should be forced to tip and especially 18%.

The stupid waitress was just trying to embarrass the lady. To get back at her because she didn't tip 18%. Just like Democrats to force people pay almost 20% more under the guise of a tip. It's a scam.
ConradCA.... I believe you be preaching to the wrong choir....EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion just as you are on this public forum...regards....
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ConradCA.... I believe you be preaching to the wrong choir....EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion just as you are on this public forum...regards....


...and some choose to spew feces out of their mouths on a public forum. Ain't the body of posts I'd choose to leave on my trail but hey....

Anyhoo... easy to cut down as that loud, obnoxious Black lady may be, the waitress effed up. Applebees had no choice but to fire her.

Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by Ken Howell
of the St. Louis-based


This is all I needed to read. I wouldn't expect anything good to come out of that place.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
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ConradCA.... I believe you be preaching to the wrong choir....EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion just as you are on this public forum...regards....


...and some choose to spew feces out of their mouths on a public forum. Ain't the body of posts I'd choose to leave on my trail but hey....

Anyhoo... easy to cut down as that loud, obnoxious Black lady may be, the waitress effed up. Applebees had no choice but to fire her.

Birdwatcher


so, you running for office Birdy? You feel you have to limit your exposure? funny scheit indeed, both the 'preacher' involved, and the sanctimonious self righteous bull crap you spew. laugh

here is today's update, where everyone involved is back peddling.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/0...tor-complaint-about-tip/?test=latestnews
In the end the ultimate stupidity is with the waitress. Move on, why the [bleep] would you feel the need to post that on the internet, she's and idiot for that.

She reminds me of so many of the stupid, whiny ass cunnys on this forum.
I'm not defending the Pastor by any means. But in most states a gratuity is just that. Even when the establishment adds it to the bill just like in this case. The restaurant customer is not legally bound to pay a gratuity if they choose not too.

Every few years someone refuses to pay an added gratuity and is arrested for "theft of services" here in NY or NJ. The story makes the papers and the evening news. The customer goes to court and beats the charges.

However, if the service was fast and cheerful there certainly wasn't any reason not to pay the gratuity. Shame on the Pastor.

Dan
Originally Posted by GeoW


Wonderful girl!!!

She must be the wish of any mother with a bachelor son...
[Linked Image]


That's crap. Waiting tables is an easy way for an unskilled person to make a decent living. It's truly a pay for performance job and good service is generally rewarded. If service ever deserved a $0 tip, I'm gone long before the food ever comes. Applebee's is taking such a jackass position. This pasterette is nothing more than a self righteous sack of schit. Perhaps the waitress should have offered something off the Weight Watchers menu.



Originally Posted by Dantheman
I'm not defending the Pastor by any means. But in most states a gratuity is just that. Even when the establishment adds it to the bill just like in this case. The restaurant customer is not legally bound to pay a gratuity if they choose not too.

Every few years someone refuses to pay an added gratuity and is arrested for "theft of services" here in NY or NJ. The story makes the papers and the evening news. The customer goes to court and beats the charges.

However, if the service was fast and cheerful there certainly wasn't any reason not to pay the gratuity. Shame on the Pastor.

Dan


the restaurant's position on tips, and assigned gratuitys are listed on the menu. Every patron has the option up front, of telling the establishment that their tip policy is not acceptable. In many cases, the restaurant will not argue about it, and not impose it. The patron can also simply not dine there.
I spent about 30 years in the biz, as an owner and/or operator of restaurants. Tipping has always been a touchy subject. The staff works hard, for very little base pay. Tips make up a huge part of their income. Stiffing the help is just plain wrong, barring bad service or food.
Knowing the sort of clientele the waitress was dealing with, I see her point. Not saying I support her actions, but I can see why she was motivated to do what she did.
Two sides to the issue, as there in most cases. Applebees is as much to blame as the girl or the patron.
Maybe the waitress was a piece of [bleep] and a miserable waitress.

Guessing is obviously a favorite sport on the Hunter's Campfire.


and that is a guess as well?
It's called an observation.

Restaurants give large groups to the better, more experienced, wait staff. Ain't rookie territory.


Yet another observation......


18% is an absurd tip amount regardless of the service or food. Period.

Sit down in a decent restraunt and do some quick math. If all the wait staff was $1 per person they'd be making $15/hr just to write down your order, fill your water glass, and bring you food somebody else cooked.
then just don't go out to eat Geezer, and you should be happy for ever after. smile

The NERVE of those folks, trying to earn a living, shocked
Originally Posted by Steelhead
It's called an observation.



Maybe you should "observe" what the preacher wrote on the tab.
Steelhead, what exactly did you observe that indicates the waitress is a "piece of schitt and a miserable waitress." Once you acknowledge that you pulled that statement out of your ass, I'll suggest you shove it back up your ass.
What a lovely voice. Like an angel. grin

And she's clearly filled with the spirit. Well, some kind of spirit, anyway.
If this tip was forced upon them because it was a party of 8 or more, as indicated earlier in this thread, $34.93 seems like a good deal, if you do the math. Never saw an Applebees around here you could eat at for $4.37, or less, per person.

M7
"Pastor" my azz............sure would like to see her educational & theological credentials.

Just another walking, talking, [bleep]' joke.

MM
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
then just don't go out to eat Geezer, and you should be happy for ever after. smile

The NERVE of those folks, trying to earn a living, shocked


I like eating out. I tip what I want and it ALLWAYS less than $18/table of 8 folks as the service provided is not worth more than that. I just as soon look at the menu, jot down my order, hand it to the cook, and fetch my own water.

If they want real money, get a real job.

I do think the comment on the bill was inappropriate, but (unless service is very good and that's rare for a large group) I resent having an automatic 18% gratuity tacked on. I generally give 15% for good service, 10% for barely adequate service and 20% for truly good service.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
It's called an observation.



Observe the waitress...

[Linked Image]
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
18% is an absurd tip amount regardless of the service or food. Period.

Sit down in a decent restraunt and do some quick math. If all the wait staff was $1 per person they'd be making $15/hr just to write down your order, fill your water glass, and bring you food somebody else cooked.


There's a bit more to it than that, but you gotta get out of Golden Corral to see it. Wife waited tables all through college and worked her ass off. I'd never shortchange a waitress.

If you don't tip, stay the [bleep] home....
Originally Posted by 16bore
There's a bit more to it than that, but you gotta get out of Golden Corral to see it. Wife waited tables all through college and worked her ass off. I'd never shortchange a waitress.

If you don't tip, stay the [bleep] home....


I agree,....
Just what the [bleep] do some folks consider "a real job" anyways?...

When my brother, sister and me were setting at a restaurant table doing our school home work for the next day, while my mom worked double shifts waiting tables to feed us, I was under the impression that she had "a real job".....
As a consumer who loved to "eat out" when I had teeth and could swallow, I've always thought that the restaurant should list the full actual price of the meal on the menu and pay the waitresses fair wages � not put me in the position of being a waitress's de facto employer.
You must not have watched the video.
Originally Posted by GeoW


WTF did I just watch?!
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
then just don't go out to eat Geezer, and you should be happy for ever after. smile

The NERVE of those folks, trying to earn a living, shocked


I like eating out. I tip what I want and it ALLWAYS less than $18/table of 8 folks as the service provided is not worth more than that. I just as soon look at the menu, jot down my order, hand it to the cook, and fetch my own water.

If they want real money, get a real job.



You are a true gentleman geezer. I can only imagine with what glee your server watches your cheap azz sitting down and demanding top notch service for nothing. laugh
My daughter worked as a waitress while in college. The going wage was under $2/hr. plus tips. She worked hard at it and did reasonably well financially. She has told some stories of being stiffed after providing good service. I have watched and seen that the church crowd is notoriously stingy with tips, exceptions occur obviously.
Originally Posted by victoro
You must not have watched the video.


You obviously didn't get it.

Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

I like eating out. I tip what I want and it ALLWAYS less than $18/table of 8 folks as the service provided is not worth more than that. I just as soon look at the menu, jot down my order, hand it to the cook, and fetch my own water.

If they want real money, get a real job.


Don't think that the wait staff doesn't remember either. And remember who the last person is to handle your food before you get it.

Just sayin.....



Not the waitress... that's the pastor.

Originally Posted by Bigbuck215
Originally Posted by Steelhead
It's called an observation.



Observe the waitress...

[Linked Image]
I have seen all sides of 'tippers' when I was working through college, from the most generous to the stingiest. While i have never agreed with the mandatory 18% on large parties, I do know that it is there because often the server gets screwed on those types of large groups. It should be mandatory that everyone has to wait tables at least one year of their life....... It would change a lot of attitudes, and increase a lot of common courtesy in people.
Loved this line;
"Bell, a mother of three who heads a 15-member congregation..."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/0...about-tip/?test=latestnews#ixzz2JmHI94WI
Little tax evasion going on Art?

I understand that my waitress could be sitting on her ass somewhere smoking crack or shooting up or selling puzzy for that matter but instead she is working to earn a living and feed a family.

Compare that to the majority of Obama supporters. Absolutely worthless pieces of fecal matter..

I tip well, well over 18% and am proud to be able to help someone who is doing their best to help themselves in this economy that is being directed towards socialism more and more.
Originally Posted by GeoW
I understand that my waitress could be sitting on her ass somewhere smoking crack or shooting up or selling puzzy for that matter but instead she is working to earn a living and feed a family.

Compare that to the majority of Obama supporters. Absolutely worthless pieces of fecal matter..

I tip well, well over 18% and am proud to be able to help someone who is doing their best to help themselves in this economy that is being directed towards socialism more and more.


while ive never been a waiter i did cook pizzas at a restaurant for awhile and got to see up close what what waiters and waitresses put up with so i tend to tip on the high side aswell crazy
The wait staff pool their tips at the two Applebee's I frequent. Many times you'll see more than just your specific waitress deliver food and drinks plus clear the table. Especially for parties over 8...
Some places pool tips with the bussing staff and dishwashers too, so don't always assume your tip is only going to the server...
If I can afford to eat out I can afford to tip for good service. I tend to be a 20% tip kind of guy, sometimes more.
My wife waited tables in college and she can be the harshest critic of wait staff. She says she had to bust her behind to earn a good tip, and she expects the same of others. Having said that, while I don't necessarily agree with the automatic 18% for larger tables, when the service is good, the tip should be good. Displays a serious lack of character to do otherwise.
Generally large groups tend to tip less each than if they had eaten as a party of 4. It is still just as much work for the servers if they eat together in a large group. I have no problem with insisting on the 18%. I would rather restaurants just charge more and pay the employees a fair wage. Then if you receive bad service complain. Enough complaints will get bad servers fired.
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
18% is an absurd tip amount regardless of the service or food. Period.

Sit down in a decent restraunt and do some quick math. If all the wait staff was $1 per person they'd be making $15/hr just to write down your order, fill your water glass, and bring you food somebody else cooked.


If you have eat'in at the same place twice, you most likely have had the fly or bugger special. They WILL remember you when you come back.

A buddies daughter worked at the local Red Lobster to put herself through school. She said she always wanted to ask the old geezers that gave .25 or .50 cent tips what 10% was when they were in school. Did math change?
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
18% is an absurd tip amount regardless of the service or food. Peroid.

Ever waited tables? I doubt it......
Ever buy your buddies beer at the local establishment? Or are you too cheap for that as well?

Places I frequent know I'm a great tipper, they definitely remember me. I get outstanding service from my usual places as they know I'm not a cheap ass.
Originally Posted by calikooknic

A buddies daughter worked at the local Red Lobster to put herself through school. She said she always wanted to ask the old geezers that gave .25 or .50 cent tips what 10% was when they were in school. Did math change?


Thats the trouble; tips are no longer for excellent service, the staff expect them every time..

And I don't see it as my obligation to make up for crap wages, that's between the staff and the business owner..

In other lines of employment, staff do a good job because they take pride in their work, not because the expect a tip..

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the sanctimonious self righteous bull crap you spew.


Bull crap, as in false?

Give an example.
You are correct, Geo W. Thanks.
Originally Posted by Pete E
Originally Posted by calikooknic

A buddies daughter worked at the local Red Lobster to put herself through school. She said she always wanted to ask the old geezers that gave .25 or .50 cent tips what 10% was when they were in school. Did math change?


Thats the trouble; tips are no longer for excellent service, the staff expect them every time..

And I don't see it as my obligation to make up for crap wages, that's between the staff and the business owner..

In other lines of employment, staff do a good job because they take pride in their work, not because the expect a tip..



Oh, no one on the wait staff expected tips from this crowd. One or two quarters for the red plate special is more of an insult than a tip.
You can bust your arse or sit on it, they will not change.
If the Applebees policy of charging 18% for 8 or more is clearly articulated and printed for each customer to read, the group then made a choice to proceed with ordering and eating and being responsible for the 18%. Do we know that piece of info?
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And I don't see it as my obligation to make up for crap wages


Aww heck, I just pay the friggin' tip, usually shoot for 20%

More if the service was good.

Cranky waitress? I appreciate her honesty. And the cranky ones generally give the best service afterwards if ya tip 'em anyway the first go-round.

Prob'ly works the same way with whores I dunno grin
I tip 20% at restaurants.
I leave a tip for the room service in hotels.
I tip when I get a haircut.

God always seems to pay me back double.
I guess it comes down to tippers and tightwads.
Tightwads think we a stupid for tipping. It's not right, unfare, rip off, yadayadayada.
Tippers sit back and smile, the bugger went into your meal, not mine.
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God always seems to pay me back double.


I should point out that at the Tex-Mex restaurants around here where my wife and I usually eat, if the tab is more'n twenty bucks we's livin' large grin
I tip based on the service and if it is good I will leave a tip way over the 20 percent. The fact is a good job deserves the tip.
I once watched my Dad leave a $50 tip on a $20'ish tab. The waitress actually followed us out to tell him he made a mistake. He said "Nope, it's Christmas". I always tip, and tip big. I figure it's normally Friday or Saturday and I know damn well that if they didn't have to be there, they wouldn't. I could never schit on a girl working her butt off.

I'll tell ya, once we had kids, the dinners out are fewer. Tips however, are bigger. Kids leave a mess and invariably need a little extra attention. We usually have to split a kid order, then ask if we can substitute something cause Kid X doesn't like food Y and Kid Z likes something different....Anyway Dads, you know the drill.

I figure a gal putting up with that schit deserves extra dough...
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Beargrease
Roommate must have been pretty desperate, drunk or both. grin


nah,...he was just crazy.

My youth is dotted with interactions with lots of crazy people.

I didn't realize that they were crazy back then,....'cause I was crazy too.


Bristoe, I keep thinkiing I knew you in a prior life!
Originally Posted by Plinker
I tip 20% at restaurants.
I leave a tip for the room service in hotels.
I tip when I get a haircut.

God always seems to pay me back double.


I like it.

I worked as a waiter one summer. It was at a high class country club. I watched the folks who tipped well and those who did not. It seemed as a whole to relate to the type of people they were. Some folks are generous, some folks are stingy. Some folks share, some folks hoard. There are some people it's great to be around, there are some people it's great not to be around....

I tip like I've got all the money in the world...and it seems like it comes back to me double. wink
Originally Posted by Plinker

God always seems to pay me back double.


Damn, pm me his ATM locales !
It is a rare circumstance...

I figure an amount for a fairly generous tip, and then add a few bucks. It's a chance to be generous and make someone's day for just a few bucks.

When the bill is presented, figure the tip. Put that on the credit card if you want.

Then add some cash when you check out. A buck or two won't hurt you, and the server will remember. I figure that that money goes into the "undocumented retirement fund". And a fiver can be a significant incentive for continued good service at that establishment. It is not on the books, it rewards their enthusiasm, and I can spare it for a "good cause".

The minister of the gospel? What is she smoking?
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What is she smoking?


She'd be a LOT more coherent if she were sucking on my old Dodge's tailpipe.

GTC
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Maybe the waitress was a piece of [bleep] and a miserable waitress.

Guessing is obviously a favorite sport on the Hunter's Campfire.



Bwahaha, someone insulted Steelhead's wife!
Originally Posted by calikooknic
A buddies daughter worked at the local Red Lobster to put herself through school. She said she always wanted to ask the old geezers that gave .25 or .50 cent tips what 10% was when they were in school. Did math change?


((in shaky voice of old-timer)) "Back in the day, folks would chop wood for a week for .25 or .50 cents, I think it's mighty generous to leave that for Just One Meal!!!" (sheds honest tears at the thought of .50 getting away on a tip...)
Hammer, nail, one whack! grin
For me, tipping has always been something that was given for work performed above what the standard level of service should be. Not a mandatory part of the price.

On that note though, when I do leave a tip (almost always), I figure it's none of the government's damn business to tax it. It's a gift and shouldn't be taxed like that. That's one reason I never leave the tip on the card. Always leave cash and let the waiter/waitress decide if they want to report it.
I tip well, 20% usually. I and my wife have waited tables before and my simple opinion is that if you don't want to tip then don't sit your azz down and have the waiter/waitress serve you.

There are times when I don't feel like tipping, so I CALL IN A PICK UP ORDER AND TAKE THE FOOD TO GO.

Wherever tipping is mandatory, the prices on the menu are as fake-aloo as the word "free" in ads for four tires (for example) if you buy three.

(If ya hafta pay anything to get that fourth tire, it ain't free! That's just a cheapskate way to advertise [falsely] a 25% discount.)

Likewise, the prices on the menus in such an establishment are nothing more than rubbery minimums.

If you advertise your product for $X.yz, then $X.yz is what I expect it to cost me if I opt to acquire it.
Originally Posted by BlackFrog
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
18% is an absurd tip amount regardless of the service or food. Peroid.

Ever waited tables? I doubt it......
Ever buy your buddies beer at the local establishment? Or are you too cheap for that as well?

Places I frequent know I'm a great tipper, they definitely remember me. I get outstanding service from my usual places as they know I'm not a cheap ass.

Yes.

Yes. No. But I just usually pay my own way.

A fool and his money are soon parted. But if being the "big tipper" makes you feel big, have at it.
Originally Posted by RyeDaddy
I tip well, 20% usually. I and my wife have waited tables before and my simple opinion is that if you don't want to tip then don't sit your azz down and have the waiter/waitress serve you.

There are times when I don't feel like tipping, so I CALL IN A PICK UP ORDER AND TAKE THE FOOD TO GO.



Sound advice for the tightwads that don't want to tip. The other benefit is you're not paying $1.99 for a glass of tea, which cracks me up. It's also one of my biggest pet peeves. The whole "let me refill your glass that's 3/4" full" schit drives me nuts.
unless you are in, or have been the restaurant biz (or another service industry where tips figure in), you probably don't know that whether you tip or not, the waitress is probably going to be lible for taxes on the transaction.
The IRS gives 'tips' also, ya know?
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/ch06.html
Sometimes doing the right thing has consequences. Making that nasty, no tipping hag "Famous" was the right thing to do. Hope the gal finds a better job than Applebee's soon.

The irony of that sasquatch skank bellowing for her own tips in the collection plate for her wailing, shrieking idiocy in the name of God is not lost, either.

The poor, or no, tipping by a certain demographic is absolutely true. Ask ANYONE who has ever waited a table. Even servers of that same demographic. Not all, of course, but for damn sure most, nearly all...


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
A black person that doesn't tip? That's odd...


My daughter worked her way through College waiting tables. She always disliked working the after church crowd. Black, for the most part, and they never tipped.


Have two doing the same, same observation/complaint about blacks in genderal.

Worse, the establishment has a pickup window (not fast food), and twice, fat black bitch's have pulled money out of her bra and handed it to my younger daughter.

If she would not get fired, I would tell her to take the change, run her hand down her pants and hand it back.
Originally Posted by RDW
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
A black person that doesn't tip? That's odd...


My daughter worked her way through College waiting tables. She always disliked working the after church crowd. Black, for the most part, and they never tipped.


Have two doing the same, same observation/complaint about blacks in genderal.

Worse, the establishment has a pickup window (not fast food), and twice, fat black bitch's have pulled money out of her bra and handed it to my younger daughter.

If she would not get fired, I would tell her to take the change, run her hand down her pants and hand it back.


Thats funny right there!
Originally Posted by Ken Howell
Gotta wonder how well she and Jesus get along.

As long as she is demanding and not listening? Pretty well, I would think
First, I am amazed at the number of women claiming to be clergy.
How? Are they the husband of 1 wife?

Second the pay system for wait staff, right or wrong, is what it is. They typically receive well under minimum wage and are required to pay income tax on 8% of their sales.

Whether they get a tip or not.

If you can afford to eat out, you can afford a tip. Even if you have put up with bad service, you can inform the server directly and leave a small amount.
Yesterday at the local gas station i watched a brown woman block the only diesel pump for 13 minutes while she talked on her free Obama phone. I began to anger but then realized that you cannot fix stupid.


Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Plinker

God always seems to pay me back double.


Damn, pm me his ATM locales !


As you give, so you will receive. He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

It works for giving to The LORD, too.

"Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,� says the Lord Almighty, �and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it." Malachi 3:10 (NIV)

Since I started to tithe 10% of my gross income, I have never been hungry or in need.
A local car-forum here in DFW has had numerous threads about tipping and they mirror your post almost word-for-word concerning African'ts and the Holy Church Crowd.
" yeah, uh...ill gitz the cheeburger, ut idont wantz no mato...so gimi extra bacon stead...and no onyuns needer...so double my fries fo free...A-ITE...An uh urng dink. large...refills is free, right?"
Originally Posted by Ken Howell
As a consumer who loved to "eat out" when I had teeth and could swallow, I've always thought that the restaurant should list the full actual price of the meal on the menu and pay the waitresses fair wages � not put me in the position of being a waitress's de facto employer.


This one!
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
Originally Posted by BlackFrog
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
18% is an absurd tip amount regardless of the service or food. Peroid.

Ever waited tables? I doubt it......
Ever buy your buddies beer at the local establishment? Or are you too cheap for that as well?

Places I frequent know I'm a great tipper, they definitely remember me. I get outstanding service from my usual places as they know I'm not a cheap ass.

Yes.

Yes. No. But I just usually pay my own way.

A fool and his money are soon parted. But if being the "big tipper" makes you feel big, have at it.

How telling that you claim it's foolish and absurd to pay someone decently for a sevice job well done.
Says quite a bit about the type of person you must be....
[quote=RDW
Worse, the establishment has a pickup window (not fast food), and twice, fat black bitch's have pulled money out of her bra and handed it to my younger daughter.

If she would not get fired, I would tell her to take the change, run her hand down her pants and hand it back. [/quote]

She has to have a last day eventually! I would buy the meal just to see that. laugh
Originally Posted by ConradCA
Your being a racist. Your insults and anti-black statements are sickening and have no place in this web site or this discussion.

You really need to have a prelude to such a statement such as, "I don't how others feel, but...", because you damn sure don't speak for me.
Originally Posted by BlackFrog
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
Originally Posted by BlackFrog
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
18% is an absurd tip amount regardless of the service or food. Peroid.

Ever waited tables? I doubt it......
Ever buy your buddies beer at the local establishment? Or are you too cheap for that as well?

Places I frequent know I'm a great tipper, they definitely remember me. I get outstanding service from my usual places as they know I'm not a cheap ass.

Yes.

Yes. No. But I just usually pay my own way.

A fool and his money are soon parted. But if being the "big tipper" makes you feel big, have at it.

How telling that you claim it's foolish and absurd to pay someone decently for a sevice job well done.
Says quite a bit about the type of person you must be....


Insult and attack are the tools of liberals and progressives. Says quite a bit about the type of person you must be.

Reading and comprehension are both fundamental. You should work on it as I did not say I did not tip "decently" for a "job well done".
Interesting you refer to me as a 'fool' and a 'big shot', and then claim I'm doing the attacking. Good day sir.
I tip good service. I also find myself in the same restaurants along the coast and they know I tip so the service is usually excellent.
Jiminyphuck......
Originally Posted by BlackFrog
Interesting you refer to me as a 'fool' and a 'big shot', and then claim I'm doing the attacking. Good day sir.


That reading and comprehension thing is just eating you up.
1. I did not refer to you as a "fool". I recalled a quote. You may infer what you wish.
2. I did not refer to you as a "big shot". I said "But if being the "big tipper" makes you feel big, have at it".
Do evrything with love, unless your a don't deserve love yourself?
Originally Posted by n007
Originally Posted by Ken Howell
As a consumer who loved to "eat out" when I had teeth and could swallow, I've always thought that the restaurant should list the full actual price of the meal on the menu and pay the waitresses fair wages � not put me in the position of being a waitress's de facto employer.


This one!


This is how it is in Australia...tipping is unheard of, and if you do leave a tip you will most likely have the staff member follow you out the door to return your "change".

And if you want to see an Australian with a blank, uncomprehending, look on their face, just hold your hand out for a tip.
Originally Posted by pira114
For me, tipping has always been something that was given for work performed above what the standard level of service should be. Not a mandatory part of the price.

On that note though, when I do leave a tip (almost always), I figure it's none of the government's damn business to tax it. It's a gift and shouldn't be taxed like that. That's one reason I never leave the tip on the card. Always leave cash and let the waiter/waitress decide if they want to report it.


Another reason not to put your tip on the card is that some tightwad employers will deduct the credit card discount percentage from the waitress' tips. Can't really say they are wrong in doing that, but not all places do it.

I find that in life there are a number of societal norms that have developed over time that I may or may not entirely agree with, but they are the norm. It is easier to go along with them than to tilt at windmills and waste a lot of (apparently worthless) time swimming against the tide. Tipping is one of those things.

I am quite okay with the concept because I can use the tip to express my level of satisfaction with the service. I am not entirely okay with the accepted percentage norm, but I basically go along with it. Here my doubt lies in whether excellent service for the steak dinner is actually worth more than excellent service for the club sandwich. But I certainly don't cry over it!

I had a friend (more like an associate) who was a total dipschitt who would never tip one cent. We went into a restaurant one day and as the waitress took the order I informed her "I tip but he won't leave one cent." He was so pissed! But why? That's his position and he should not try to hide it. My service that day was remarkably different than his!
Originally Posted by ModelSeven
If this tip was forced upon them because it was a party of 8 or more, as indicated earlier in this thread, $34.93 seems like a good deal, if you do the math. Never saw an Applebees around here you could eat at for $4.37, or less, per person.

M7


Judging from the size of that gorilla they may have had seperate checks and that was just her portion?
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223


Lmao!
She did ask for separate checks and that was just her portion.
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