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New Jersey governor to appear on four of five shows
Top topics: Elections, Obamacare, Iran
Efforts to get a deal with Iran over its nuclear program will also be discussed
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He may not be the "elephant in the room," as Time magazine dubbed him this week, but New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie will virtually take over Sunday's network and cable news shows as he seeks to turn his landslide re-election into a potential 2016 presidential campaign.

Christie will appear on four of the five major Sunday morning shows this week, including an appearance on ABC's This Week With George Stephanopoulos. The shows will focus on the recent off-year elections, the state of the Republican Party, the continuing problems with the Obamacare rollout and efforts to get a deal with Iran over its nuclear program.

Here's the Sunday lineup:

� ABC's This Week:Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J., appearing live. Texas Gov. Rick Perry, from Iowa, marking his first time back since his ill-fated 2012 presidential campaign. Perry, a potential 2016 candidate, denounced President Obama's leadership on foreign policy issues in a Polk County speech Thursday night. Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J., chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, on Iran. Menendez is a supporter of continued U.S. sanctions against Iran as long as its nuclear program is still running.

� CBS' Face the Nation:Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J. Former Defense secretary Leon Panetta � who also served as CIA director, White House chief of staff, White House budget director and in Congress � on President Obama's second-term issues, from health care to drone strikes. Panetta recently criticized Obama's refusal to negotiate with Republicans over the government shutdown and raising the debt ceiling.

� NBC's Meet the Press:Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J. Sens. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., and Bob Corker, R-Tenn., on issues ranging from Obamacare to Iran. Durbin, the No. 2 Democratic leader in the Senate, recently backed away from his allegation that a Republican leader criticized Obama to his face during the government shutdown. Corker, top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has been a leader in seeking to maintain sanctions against Iran.

� Fox News Sunday:Gov. Chris Christie, R-N.J. A discussion about Obamacare with business, insurance and health policy experts. Among those interviewed will be Ron Pollack, executive director of the pro-Obamacare consumer group Families USA; Stephen Curry, vice president of Benefit Planning Services; and Cade Joiner, owner of Shred-X.

� CNN's State of the Union:Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus on the future of the Republican Party. Priebus recently predicted GOP action in immigration and urged the party not to threaten another government shutdown. Maverick Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who faces a tough re-election battle inside his own party next year, on Obamacare, Iran and last year's attacks against the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi, Libya. Former Senate majority leader Bob Dole, who turned 90 this year, on what America owes its veterans.
The reason he won is because he is a Democrat claiming to be a Republican. A few minutes ago on FOX he portrayed himself as above the fray of the Washington DC types when asked if he is conservative. He refused to answer. He did the same thing when asked about Ted Cruz. His lack of answer tells us he is NOT conservative and is NOT in agreement with Cruz.
In answer to your question probably not. The libertarian/conservative/ Tea Party faction would have to over come the Marxist/Social Democrats of the Democrat and Republican Party.

Probably the best bet is to put as many libertarian/conservative/Tea Party types in the House and Senate as possible and a Democrat in the WH. Grid lock is always good.
When he, or someone just like him is installed by the rovites, there will be cries from the usual crowd to blindly support him. Meanwhile, the RINO elite will lose to the real libtards, yet again... Groundhog Day.
A excerpt from a Fox News article in today's news coverage:

Pressed on several hot-button conservative issues, Christie told Fox News that gun-control �can be a part of� the gun-violence solution, but his focus remains on mental-health issues.

I will not vote for him.
POTUs has been out of constitutional control for some time now. The place to make the change back to a constitutional republic is through the individual states. We apply our energy at the state level and we can create an atmosphere where the fed guv will realize they need us instead of the perception of the opposite.

Rather than fearing the fed as an all consuming tiranical beast, we should treat it as an insolent, spoiled child we have surounded, and the time to exercise tough love has come.
Christie is far from perfect, but the perfect conservative candidate doesn't stand a chance at being POTUS in America. We can always elect Hillary.
Hilary will be the next president, IMO.
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

I will not vote for him.


You doogooders can stay home and not vote because you dont like the fatboy.
Heck im not a fatboy fan myself.
But I ask you to consider that the hildabeast will finish, what the raghead has started.
The SCOTUS just for starters.
Its a big ship.Its going to take time to turn.
And the thing is.
You have to win an election before you can change anything.
Staying home, is just like voting for what you hate most.


dave



[quote=SBTCO]POTUs has been out of constitutional control for some time now. The place to make the change back to a constitutional republic is through the individual states. We apply our energy at the state level and we can create an atmosphere where the fed guv will realize they need us instead of the perception of the opposite.

Rather than fearing the fed as an all consuming tiranical beast, we should treat it as an insolent, spoiled child we have surounded, and the time to exercise tough love has come. [/quote

Good point.
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

I will not vote for him.


You doogooders can stay home and not vote because you dont like the fatboy.
Heck im not a fatboy fan myself.
But I ask you to consider that the hildabeast will finish, what the raghead has started.
The SCOTUS just for starters.
Its a big ship.Its going to take time to turn.
And the thing is.
You have to win an election before you can change anything.
Staying home, is just like voting for what you hate most.


dave





Their is nothing you, or anybody else, can say to make the conservative base show up for Christie, just like they didn't for Romney or McCain. Nothing.
Immigration, Gun control, a vote for fatboy is worse than a vote for dimschit. We will have more gun control and amnesty under a (that) Republican President, not so under a dimschit. The Reptards will deny a D-pres and follow along with a R-pres.
Originally Posted by Tombo
Immigration, Gun control, a vote for fatboy is worse than a vote for dimschit. We will have more gun control and amnesty under a Republican President, not so under a dimschit. The Reptards will deny a D-pres and follow along with a R-pres.


No...anything is better than a Democrat. The fact though, is that Democrats and Republicans both vote for money.

Conservatives vote on principle, will not vote Democrat and will not show up for unprincipled candidates. That leaves the Republicans out as long as they continue to pimp RINOs.
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
A excerpt from a Fox News article in today's news coverage:

Pressed on several hot-button conservative issues, Christie told Fox News that gun-control �can be a part of� the gun-violence solution, but his focus remains on mental-health issues.


In that same interview he bragged about the fact that he'll work with anyone who holds the "same view" of the future he does.

Sounds like Oberry to me.

Just another lying politician out to line his own pockets as far as I'm concerned.


Originally Posted by FieldGrade


Sounds like Oberry to me.




Birds of a feather, flock together.. That's why you see the fatboy holding hands with the "narcissist in charge".
11/11/13
Palin said on NBC�s �Today� show�after last Tuesday�s elections, which saw New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie sail to reelection by huge margins as a Republican in a Democratic state, she is still not jumping on the Christie bandwagon.

�I would never put my faith and hope in any one individual politician,� Palin said. �There is no Ronald Reagan on the scene today. If he were on the scene, that�s who I would put my faith in.

But hey, New Jersey, a blue state, has a Republican governor. Right on. Beats the alternative.�

The former vice presidential candidate rejected the narrative that the elections taught tea party candidates they need to moderate.

�You know, when you stand in the middle of the road, you�re going to get hit on both sides of the road,� Palin said. �[Sens.] Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, some of these guys actually were fulfilling their campaign promises [on Obamacare], and they asked for debate. That�s why they stood up and took the stand, fought for us to debate the issue of Obamacare.�

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...president-obama-99660.html#ixzz2kM0FAVbf
Christie is certainly not a conservative. However, he is not a H. Clinton or Obama liberal either. I hope we do better, but I'm not optimistic.
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

I will not vote for him.


You doogooders can stay home and not vote because you dont like the fatboy.
Heck im not a fatboy fan myself.
But I ask you to consider that the hildabeast will finish, what the raghead has started.
The SCOTUS just for starters.
Its a big ship.Its going to take time to turn.
And the thing is.
You have to win an election before you can change anything.
Staying home, is just like voting for what you hate most.


dave



Seek better. Choose wisely & encourage DEMAND better, or you will ensure another repeat of the last two elections by ignoring the primary process & starting, already, again, to demand people support these chitheels that keep getting installed by idiots who drink the rovite koolaid & are fooled by the untold billions spent to install them.

You're the problem, not those who hate to the core & will never, ever support the awful choices being given by those you seem to lay down for so easily.
Ah yes the selling of the media's next great piece of moderate [bleep] (PMS).
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
A excerpt from a Fox News article in today's news coverage:

Pressed on several hot-button conservative issues, Christie told Fox News that gun-control �can be a part of� the gun-violence solution, but his focus remains on mental-health issues.

I will not vote for him.


He is extremely electable and not half as bad as some make him out to be...

EXCEPT for the one gigantic glaring problem you posted.
He is for "common sense" gun control.
I voted 3rd party this gubernatorial election because of that point.
(the Dem was a raving liberal commie, so that was not an option either.)

Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
A excerpt from a Fox News article in today's news coverage:

Pressed on several hot-button conservative issues, Christie told Fox News that gun-control �can be a part of� the gun-violence solution, but his focus remains on mental-health issues.

I will not vote for him.



That is the issue right there! When you have this "Truth Test" to be a conservative with only "us or them" mind set....Well you isolate most who might support you. The "Us against the world" is a dead end. Support who you want but very few candidates have all of the same qualities as each voter so you choose from the ones that have the most.
my jaundiced viewpoint is that the front runners of both parties represent the status quo.

others feel like the status quo needs fixing.

who'll win? it won't matter if any of the front runners win from either party. that leaves at least a few of us chit out of luck.
Originally Posted by Gus
my jaundiced viewpoint is that the front runners of both parties represent the status quo.

others feel like the status quo needs fixing.

who'll win? it won't matter if any of the front runners win from either party. that leaves at least a few of us chit out of luck.


Concise, clear, and to the point.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

I will not vote for him.


You doogooders can stay home and not vote because you dont like the fatboy.
Heck im not a fatboy fan myself.
But I ask you to consider that the hildabeast will finish, what the raghead has started.
The SCOTUS just for starters.
Its a big ship.Its going to take time to turn.
And the thing is.
You have to win an election before you can change anything.
Staying home, is just like voting for what you hate most.


dave





Their is nothing you, or anybody else, can say to make the conservative base show up for Christie, just like they didn't for Romney or McCain. Nothing.


The democrats fall in line and vote for what ever cretin gets the nomination. Their values and standards appear to be minimal. The republicans will also do the same thing. Having an R behind your name is all that is required to get another republican's vote.

However, the Conservatives, those people with strict values and standards will only vote for those who meet their values and standards. There is NO flexibility. Being a Conservative and being a Republican are NOT the same thing. That is why the democrats always come out the winner. kwg
Gus:

Spot on.

You have to realize that when wing of a 1 party comes up with a "radical fix" like the Tea Party would like to do you run the risk of killing any meaningful change and killing your over all chances of winning national elections, thus becoming 100% counter productive.
Originally Posted by Take_a_knee
Originally Posted by Gus
my jaundiced viewpoint is that the front runners of both parties represent the status quo.

others feel like the status quo needs fixing.

who'll win? it won't matter if any of the front runners win from either party. that leaves at least a few of us chit out of luck.


Concise, clear, and to the point.


Gus, you found your meds!!

kwg
when the rank and file picked the candidate, we won twice in a row with Bush.
When we let the left wing media pick the candidate, we lost consecutively with McCain and Romney.
See a pattern here?

I'll sit out the election in 2016, if Cristie is the candidate.
There is NO flexibility. Being a Conservative and being a Republican are NOT the same thing. That is why the democrats always come out the winner. kwg

You have just hit on why the conservative movement has no chance of being successful. Our entire system is built upon on that dirty word, compromise. If there is only a single set of correct points of vier it would be a Dictatorship or a Monarchy. Is that what you are proposing?

It is extremely elitist to believe your values and points of view are more important than anyone else. You can see that can't you?
Originally Posted by northwestalaska

It is extremely elitist to believe your values and points of view are more important than anyone else.


You mean like Oberry?

Originally Posted by Mannlicher


I'll sit out the election in 2016, if Cristie is the candidate.


I won't sit out the election and neither should you. There are always many other issues on the ballot, but now, I won't pull a lever for that lard-ass either. That's a promise.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
when the rank and file picked the candidate, we won twice in a row with Bush.
When we let the left wing media pick the candidate, we lost consecutively with McCain and Romney.
See a pattern here?

I'll sit out the election in 2016, if Cristie is the candidate.


Obviously they don't see the pattern Sam, as obvious as it is. Destroy any conservative candidate and make sure a loser is propped up as being "electable". It's worked out pretty well for them too.
Originally Posted by SBTCO
POTUS has been out of constitutional control for some time now. The place to make the change back to a constitutional republic is through the individual states. We apply our energy at the state level and we can create an atmosphere where the fed guv will realize they need us instead of the perception of the opposite.

Rather than fearing the fed as an all consuming tyrannical beast, we should treat it as an insolent, spoiled child we have surrounded, and the time to exercise tough love has come.


That's where the new civil war has to come from but we must also realize that probably only a third of the states will support such a move.
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by northwestalaska

It is extremely elitist to believe your values and points of view are more important than anyone else.


You mean like Oberry?



If I work and pay taxes to foot the bill of the military, .gov, and welfare Dimocraps it's not elitist to realize I benefit the country rather drain it.
Originally Posted by eyeball
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by northwestalaska

It is extremely elitist to believe your values and points of view are more important than anyone else.


You mean like Oberry?



If I work and pay taxes to foot the bill of the military, .gov, and welfare Dimocraps it's not elitist to realize I benefit the country rather drain it.


well yeah. anybody with one eye and half-sense knows that already. we're close to entering the point of having more consumers of gov't wealth than producers of tax revenue. that would be a very dangerous area to be in, for the rich or the poor, the producers and the consumers.

no doubt we've got plenty of users of gov't largesse. perhaps the workers just aren't working hard enough? wink
Let's face it. Neither Republican, nor Democrat, Politicians want conservatives to vote. It payes the same whether they're in the majority or minority. When somebody like Cruz, Lee, Paul etc, slip though the cracks it just makes them all look bad.
True
Quote
If I work and pay taxes to foot the bill of the military, .gov, and welfare Dimocraps it's not elitist to realize I benefit the country rather drain it.


So let me get this straight....Anyone who pays taxes has the right to elitist and insist that their point of view is the only one that counts?

Everyone pays some kind of tax. Sales, payroll or gas tax thus we all should assume that only our point of view is worthy? We are talking about 313,000,000 people!

We have chosen to liv in a country where we all have an = say. It must be time for you to move to Cuba!
Originally Posted by northwestalaska
Gus:

Spot on.

You have to realize that when wing of a 1 party comes up with a "radical fix" like the Tea Party would like to do you run the risk of killing any meaningful change and killing your over all chances of winning national elections, thus becoming 100% counter productive.






It take two sides to work a real compromise. What we have had is one side in the driver�s seat dictating to the passenger side.

Thanks to the Obama disaster, the tables have turned.
Tea Party grew out of ObamaCare. That and the whole Obama Agenda that is really starting to hurt voter pocketbooks is pushing the Tea Party into the drivers seat.

11/11/13
On Breitbart News Sunday on Sirius XM Patriot channel 125, veterans who are involved in the Tea Party movement joined Breitbart News Executive Chairman and host Stephen K. Bannon to discuss why they joined the movement to fight for the country at home after serving abroad
.

Christian Stevens, an Army veteran, said he often sees the same people at VFW and Tea Party meetings, and he emphasized that he took an oath to "protect against all enemies foreign and domestic--and Tea party is doing the domestic side."
Mark Herr, an Air Force veteran, is involved in the Center for Self-Governance and the Mid-South Tea Party movement, and he told Bannon that he never understood the oath to the people of America until after he joined the military. He said there is a "sense of obligation to stand up and defend the republic so that the next generation can enjoy the freedom and liberties brought to us by the Founding Fathers."
[�]
Lt. Colonel Rick Moreland, an Army veteran, also said that when veterans are asked to be acknowledged at Tea Party organizations or meetings, "you see a heavy representation."
"In my training, the Constitution that we were sworn to defend is what the Tea Party is about," he said before emphasizing that the Tea Party is about reducing the government to a "size that is within the Constitution."

Kurt Potter, an Army veteran, said he was inspired to be involved in the Tea Party movement after listening to Rick Santelli's rant on the floor of Wall Street in 2009, which he said motivated him to become more politically active and put "more skin in the game."

Talking about the future of the Tea Party movement, Moreland said the Tea Party has already in four years become "much more tech-savvy and much more effective in ways others than a street protest organization. They will continue to establish itself, probably on a high-tech plane."

Potter said though the Tea Party has been criticized for being nativists, racists, and homophobes, he "doesn't care about" those criticisms and portrayals because they are not accurate. He said Americans who have died abroad "didn't lay down their lives so people can enjoy barbecue" at home, "but so that people can stand up and fight for liberty in their own country."

He said there will always be that fight for liberty and emphasized that "we are responsible for our own destiny."

Moreland agreed, emphasizing one of those liberties is being "able to speak free." He said "freedom of speech" has to be defended, and it goes both ways. He said the Tea Party movement has a right to "say we want the government controlled by the Constitution" as much as Americans have a right to hurl invective at the movement.

The veterans all agreed that once the Tea Party better learns and grasps the political process, they will see the movement from a "self-governance" perspective and will not want to be controlled by established political parties.



Originally Posted by Ringman
The reason he won is because he is a Democrat claiming to be a Republican. A few minutes ago on FOX he portrayed himself as above the fray of the Washington DC types when asked if he is conservative. He refused to answer. He did the same thing when asked about Ted Cruz. His lack of answer tells us he is NOT conservative and is NOT in agreement with Cruz.
Naturally he's not a conservative. He's a leftist douche.
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer
A excerpt from a Fox News article in today's news coverage:

Pressed on several hot-button conservative issues, Christie told Fox News that gun-control �can be a part of� the gun-violence solution, but his focus remains on mental-health issues.

I will not vote for him.
Our gun rights can be just as easily assaulted by the "mental health" approach as by direct gun control. That's how the Soviets and the commie Chinese put political opposition in the gulags. No trick to disarm political opposition by that method. And by political opposition I mean folks who support constitutional government, free markets, the rule of law, etc. They will declare those the marks of dangerous mental illness. They've nearly done so as we speak.
Originally Posted by tbear
Christie is far from perfect, but the perfect
Talk about the understatement of the century. smirk
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Tombo
Immigration, Gun control, a vote for fatboy is worse than a vote for dimschit. We will have more gun control and amnesty under a Republican President, not so under a dimschit. The Reptards will deny a D-pres and follow along with a R-pres.


No...anything is better than a Democrat. The fact though, is that Democrats and Republicans both vote for money.

Conservatives vote on principle, will not vote Democrat and will not show up for unprincipled candidates. That leaves the Republicans out as long as they continue to pimp RINOs.
I like the way you're talking lately.
My suspicion is that all this early Christie talk by the seemingly unified establishment of both parties and the MSM is meant to demoralize the conservative base of the Republican Party so that when they finally offer us someone who's not quite as much of a leftist dirtbag as Christie we'll jump on it and thank our lucky stars Christie wasn't coronated the nominee. Their concern is that if left unmanipulated, we'll nominate Rand Paul, i.e., an actual game changer in the direction of authentic, old right, conservatism, which is something the establishment feels it cannot under any circumstances tolerate.
Originally Posted by oulufinn
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

I will not vote for him.


You doogooders can stay home and not vote because you dont like the fatboy.
Heck im not a fatboy fan myself.
But I ask you to consider that the hildabeast will finish, what the raghead has started.
The SCOTUS just for starters.
Its a big ship.Its going to take time to turn.
And the thing is.
You have to win an election before you can change anything.
Staying home, is just like voting for what you hate most.


dave



Seek better. Choose wisely & encourage DEMAND better, or you will ensure another repeat of the last two elections by ignoring the primary process & starting, already, again, to demand people support these chitheels that keep getting installed by idiots who drink the rovite koolaid & are fooled by the untold billions spent to install them.

You're the problem, not those who hate to the core & will never, ever support the awful choices being given by those you seem to lay down for so easily.
Hear hear.
Originally Posted by Gus
my jaundiced viewpoint is that the front runners of both parties represent the status quo.

others feel like the status quo needs fixing.

who'll win? it won't matter if any of the front runners win from either party. that leaves at least a few of us chit out of luck.
I'm always amazed when you say something that makes sense.
Would we be better off right now with Romney? If you say no, you are a fool.
the demo-publican consortium has run things for a long spell now. at the moment the demo's are carrying most of the load due to the demographics of the current electorate. but, they remain in partnership.

only when a Third Party can attract sectors of the demos and repubs to form a third viable party do we have a chance. until then, the republicans will continue to split, thus assuring the demo's the head position at the RoundTable. I have no clue what issues would draw new recruits from both the demo's and repubs to form a third Choice. Maybe nothing that can be identified and be viable? if that continues to be the case, money that is not invested in Gold will probably continue to be betted on the demos.

that's my objective analysis, but we all know that politics is not always objective.
Originally Posted by Cartod
Would we be better off right now with Romney? If you say no, you are a fool.
I'm not certain we're not worse off because Dubya defeated the two Dems he was up against. Not that the Dems aren't just as bad, but the dynamic of an authoritarian leftist president of the Republican stripe can often be more destructive of our nation and our liberties than can a Democrat. This is because Republicans in Congress tend to fight Democrat presidents tooth and nail, but they tend to cooperate with leftist douchebag presidents if they're Republicans.

That said, I've never voted Democrat, and never will. I've voted third party for president a few times, though, and may do so again in the future.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Cartod
Would we be better off right now with Romney? If you say no, you are a fool.
I'm not certain we're not worse off because Dubya defeated the two Dems he was up against. Not that the Dems aren't just as bad, but the dynamic of an authoritarian leftist president of the Republican stripe can often be more destructive of our nation and our liberties than can a Democrat. This is because Republicans in Congress tend to fight Democrat presidents tooth and nail, but they tend to cooperate with leftist douchebag presidents if they're Republicans.


Nixon is the perfect example proving the above.
Originally Posted by Take_a_knee
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Cartod
Would we be better off right now with Romney? If you say no, you are a fool.
I'm not certain we're not worse off because Dubya defeated the two Dems he was up against. Not that the Dems aren't just as bad, but the dynamic of an authoritarian leftist president of the Republican stripe can often be more destructive of our nation and our liberties than can a Democrat. This is because Republicans in Congress tend to fight Democrat presidents tooth and nail, but they tend to cooperate with leftist douchebag presidents if they're Republicans.


Nixon is the perfect example proving the above.
Yep. As Marxist as they come, and he was supported by the Republicans in Congress, e.g., wage and price controls as an effort to control the inflation that was the natural consequence of closing the international gold exchange window.
It appears that most of you want to find someone at fault for the sagging results the Tea Party is currently producing. It's the Libs Fault,,It's the Dems fault...It's the RINO's fault

The truth is the Tea Party is pushing ideologically isolated candidates that repulse most of the common sense voters regardless of party. Just look at all of the Turds that were pushed in the 2012 elections and then look hard at the Turds that ran for Pres in 2012. It was a clown show and each one was trying to out crazy the next one. Herman Cain??? Rick Santorum?? Rick Perry?? Michelle Bachmann?? Todd Akins???

You might like Todd Akin or Michelle Bachmann but they cannot be elected so what do you do? If you stick to your God, Gay and Guns mind set for finding the perfect candidate you will continue get beat at the polls or you can continue to pretend the ones like Romney are conservatives. The bottom line is the country is not conservative like the crazy Tea Party candidates you keep pushing. The country lives in the middle. Don't believe me? Watch the results of the 2014 election ans you will see the shift away from the "Crazy Right Wing".
You must be trolling. Even your wattage can not be so dim as to not remember the last Conservative Landslide.

Three years ago.
It was about ObamaCare.
Regardless of NWA's past trollings, he does appear to be trying to engage in adult conversation, with some sibilance of respect.

I'm taking note, as I feel he is honestly telling us his viewpoint on why the left is in the position they are in now. I think there is probably more middle ground than we realize. Do I think all Dems want all guns gone? Absolutely not!

Look at it this way. We don't want government interfering in our life's, and telling us we need to give up our guns for the safety of our citizens, when we have not committed any crimes with said guns. By the same token, the left doesn't want the government to interfere with a women body, and what she can and can't do with it.

I know that is really divided subject, but in truth, they are both government invasions into our lives, which I don't think the majority of this country wants.
Originally Posted By: northwestalaska
�Seriously Bow, do you sit in bed nights masturbating over Sarah Palin?�
�Bow: I swear, you must be thinkin' about Sister Sarah 24/7. Does another thought ever enter your head? Is your bedroom festooned with Sarah in a bikini posters?�
Originally Posted by Cartod
Would we be better off right now with Romney? If you say no, you are a fool.


The point is that we would have been infinately better off with Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, Gingrich and even Paul, and any one of them would have beaten Obama. That's why the MSM and Democrats are shoving another unelectable RINO down our throats already.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Cartod
Would we be better off right now with Romney? If you say no, you are a fool.


The point is that we would have been infinately better off with Bachmann, Perry, Santorum, Gingrich and even Paul, and any one of them would have beaten Obama. That's why the MSM and Democrats are shoving another unelectable RINO down our throats already.
Preach it, brother.
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Originally Posted by Gun_Geezer

I will not vote for him.


You doogooders can stay home and not vote because you dont like the fatboy.
Heck im not a fatboy fan myself.
But I ask you to consider that the hildabeast will finish, what the raghead has started.
The SCOTUS just for starters.
Its a big ship.Its going to take time to turn.
And the thing is.
You have to win an election before you can change anything.
Staying home, is just like voting for what you hate most.
dave

Their is nothing you, or anybody else, can say to make the conservative base show up for Christie, just like they didn't for Romney or McCain. Nothing.

Then you better get used to living under dim-o-crap rule.
dave
I voted for Romney and McCain, and stand by my statement. Republican candidates that are popular in NE States and California alone can not be elected. It is mind numbing that the process of selecting Red Team candidates for POTUS is controlled almost exclusively by the media and primary results of a few blue and purple States.
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