http://rare.us/story/you-cant-be-a-conservative-without-being-libertarian/

A good look at the current rift between big government lovers and those who want the country to be saved.

That's pretty accurate. It's a shame the "Libertarian Party" practically destroyed the meaning of the word "libertarian".

Old school libertarians are people like Limbaugh, Bush, Hannity, Giulliani, McCain, Romney, Christie, and so on. Basically just normal conservatives like you and me. Libertarians just want to smoke dope, remain isolationists, cut off federal funding to business, and BS crap like that.

Good read but wait for a while and certain folks will show up and just call everyone that thinks differently than then....Wait for it...NEOCON'S.

Watch it will happen.
Then they will scour the web for every article that has someone saying what those folks really meant,so it must be true.

I can't wait

I'm sorry but there is nothing libertarian about most of those on your list Sherp

You sound like a neocon.

In fact short of maybe one they are all tow the line Republicans that are just as bad as liberals

Good try this didn't count,no web links.

Libertarians are just liberal and are bad. There is nothing bad about Republicans which is just another word for Conservative.

I like trolling. I just wish you were better at it.

There is much wrong with your thinking my friend. Most republicans these days are no better than the liberal scum that are ruining this country. This may hurt some feelings but anyone who thinks there is much of a difference between Bush and Bama are either dumb or lying!

These days? What is the difference between Romney vs. McCain vs Bush vs. Dole vs. Bush vs. Reagan vs. Nixon vs. Ike vs. Grant vs. Nixon? No difference between them I can see. Basically all were perfection in human form.

Not trolling at all nor did I say anything wrong.

Ok, I see the trolling coming out. Your obviously not serious or you are off your rocker. Either way I'll stop now.

Every post you've ever made was trolling, and almost every thing you've ever posted was "wrong". I'm okay with that. Like I said, a good troll is fun to have around. You're just not any good. I bet there is some kind of troll advice to be found on the internet. You tenacity is good. Work on your content and delivery.

Not trolling at all. I take it you can't name any differences between the Conservative Republicans I listed from different eras so you are down to the losing side tactic of name calling now?

What have I posted that was wrong?

Already told ya.

The Founders were not libertarians and never intended the Constitution to have a libertarian bent. Therein lies the problem: libertarianism is not faithful to the original intent of the Founders, whereas Conservativism (limited government and fidelity to the moral law) are faithful to that intent. The problem isn't conservatism, its that too many who profess to be conservatives love big government.

So I am pro-republican and pro-police and that makes me wrong according to you?

The Founders increased the size and scope of government when they wrote the Constitution then immediately showed they wanted even more power such as the Alien and Sedition Acts done up by Adams and his fellow Federalists who went on to become Whigs who went on to be come Republicans and who are still true to what the Founders wanted.

He tries Pat....Bless his heart

Here you go Sherp this might help you up your game.
http://www.howtotroll.org/

Partly true. The Constitution created a central government of sufficient power to enable us to put an end to the greatest tyranny in all of American history---the positive good school of pro-slavery thought in ante-bellum America. In Lincoln's words it was the Constitution which put slavery in "the course of ultimate extinction". There are some here who, in the name of "liberty" are ardent defenders of chattel slavery. Go figure.

BTW, the "Founders" did not pass the Alien and Sedition Acts. Some men who were Founders supported it; others did not. But then, when the goal is to defame the Constitution and the Founders, details don't matter much do they Sherp?

No, you are wrong because you're a stupid mofo.

So good it bears repeating. Adam Smith was not an "economist", he was a moral philosopher.

Actually, the Founders of both parties were radicals.

The Federalists passed the Alien and Sedition Acts and they were Founders.

Yep, Lincoln was great. He defended slave owners wanting their runaway slaves back when he was an attorney then totally ignored the Constitution and BOR to keep the country together. Also made a test run with income tax which rocks! He was so crazy he wouldn't even carry a pocket knife for fear of committing suicide, but he sure did know how to put civilians on their knees before the Federal Government!!

Yeppers!! John Adams was definitely a Founder and he damn sure didn't have a problem with the Alien and Sedition Acts.

there has always been a lot of 'libertarian' in me, but the party leaders such as Rand Paul leave me behind.
I am pretty Conservative. Back years ago, I parted with the John Birch Society, as I felt they were a little left wing.

Rand Paul is a Republican and a Conservative, just like Christie and Romney.

The art of trolling has for the most part been lost, in the same way and for the same reasons that the rhetorical arts of Attic Greek have been lost. So few people appreciate Attic Greek today--even in Greece--that even a skilled rhetoricist would go entirely unappreciated, no matter how good his arguments or persuasive his propaganda.

Long ago, before the Internet, before anybody knew what HTTP was and Usenet was king, people understood what trolling was and how to react to it and appreciate it. There were competent--nay, brilliant!--trolls and contemptible trolls, and everything in between.

Now, almost nobody remembers old-timey trolling, and so would-be trolls of the old tradition have no real way to develop their skills and no bar against which to measure themselves. Both ingenious trolls and sloppy, lame, half-witted trolls get bites from all directions, so there's no way to know for sure how good one is or how to make oneself better.

It's true that sherp has potential that he isn't exploiting, but in his defense, his environment is working against him.

If I am trolling then every Conservative and Police Officer in the country who gets online is trolling because those groups support the same things I do.

Yup. The supply of dumb fish on the internet seems unlimited.

You can't troll me, son, not until you get a lot better at it. I was successfully trolling forum gurus probably before you were born.

Hint: you don't want the cops on the forum hating you. You just want them uncomfortable, rolling their eyes at you. You can still say stuff outrageous enough to stimulate the vitriol from the masses, and you'll be a whole lot more credible than you are now. You can't be slamming the lever against the stop and holding it there in either direction: you have to ride it carefully and constantly adjust position fractionally depending on the reactions you get.

You rally are Gus aren't you?


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