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Posted By: Alan_R_McDaniel_Jr Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
I went out to the ranch to pick up a few pieces of lumber that I needed for a little project. Upon leaving the gate on the county road I encountered a Border Patrol vehicle parked on our side of the road with no Border Patrol agents in it. I stopped and waited outside my truck until they came out of the brush on our side of the road. They asked if I had seen anything unusual. I replied, "Only you guys". They were somewhat amused. They showed me a pretty fair sized camp site about 50 yards off the road that looked like one of those places out in Arizona where hundreds of illegals cross the border. Well, we don't have to go to Arizona to see that any more. We have our own. There were hundreds of plastic water bottles, some of which still had water in them and were not more than a week in the sun, and every other imaginable kind of trash and refuse laying around. They also showed me another campsite on the opposite side of the road right next to our gate.

In the 34 years that I have been regularly frequenting that ranch I have seen exactly "0" wetbacks. There were most certainly more than that there recently. The BP said they picked up 25 right there two months ago. They now have my name and number and will call me in the event of any further activity. I also gave them the combination to the gate and told them that they could go in any time they needed to. I told them that it would be a real good idea to call me if they were going in particularly during hunting season. I told them that I would disseminate this information because any of our family that were in the ranch would likely be very well armed.

We discussed the campsite area that the illegals were using and decided to leave it untouched and not clean it up so that they may continue to use it and maybe they can catch some more. As soon as they start catching them there they will move to another spot. I feel like they will stop using it quicker and more permanently if they know the BP goes there to catch illegals than if they simply know that the landowner cleans up after them.

Alan
Posted By: pira114 Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Good luck with that. Seems like you have a good plan
Posted By: Esox357 Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Kind of like feral hogs, only you can legally shoot the hogs (grin).
Posted By: squesh Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
obummer's gonna give about 10 million of them amnesty. just watch. He's like Hitler, He's said all along what he's gonna do, and nobody believes him.
Posted By: HawkI Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Try 30, squeshy....
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by Alan_R_McDaniel_Jr
I went out to the ranch to pick up a few pieces of lumber that I needed for a little project. Upon leaving the gate on the county road I encountered a Border Patrol vehicle parked on our side of the road with no Border Patrol agents in it. I stopped and waited outside my truck until they came out of the brush on our side of the road. They asked if I had seen anything unusual. I replied, "Only you guys". They were somewhat amused. They showed me a pretty fair sized camp site about 50 yards off the road that looked like one of those places out in Arizona where hundreds of illegals cross the border. Well, we don't have to go to Arizona to see that any more. We have our own. There were hundreds of plastic water bottles, some of which still had water in them and were not more than a week in the sun, and every other imaginable kind of trash and refuse laying around. They also showed me another campsite on the opposite side of the road right next to our gate.

In the 34 years that I have been regularly frequenting that ranch I have seen exactly "0" wetbacks. There were most certainly more than that there recently. The BP said they picked up 25 right there two months ago. They now have my name and number and will call me in the event of any further activity. I also gave them the combination to the gate and told them that they could go in any time they needed to. I told them that it would be a real good idea to call me if they were going in particularly during hunting season. I told them that I would disseminate this information because any of our family that were in the ranch would likely be very well armed.

We discussed the campsite area that the illegals were using and decided to leave it untouched and not clean it up so that they may continue to use it and maybe they can catch some more. As soon as they start catching them there they will move to another spot. I feel like they will stop using it quicker and more permanently if they know the BP goes there to catch illegals than if they simply know that the landowner cleans up after them.

Alan


Don't get your hopes up to high,...you're putting faith in a (currently) FAILED organization.

Be aware that, if there were more than one of the "they" that you spoke with, the other one has already advised the Coyotes and their handlers of the plan you discussed with the honest one.

There's but a very SLIM vestige left of what was once a fine agency.

Subscribe to NAFBPO's newsletter, talk to Zack Taylor, and keep up the good fight.

No flame here,...just the voice of EXPERIENCE.

GTC
Posted By: squesh Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
ONE is too many. Bunch of disrespectful line-jumpers, should be shot. Millions more people WAIT IN LINE to legally immigrate here.
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by pira114
Good luck with that. Seems like you have a good plan


Can't agree,....

WTF should McDaniels be putting his azz on the line when the "Agents" he's talking to are PAID to be placing their's in that somewhat RISKY spot ?

Everybody just stop and think for one moment where placing their faith in the USCBP got the Rob Krentz family.

GTC
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Gettin' too crowded around here.

I have already been broken into once and had stuff stolen while I was sleeping in the next room. Good thing they didn't wake me.

3 of 'em. Myself and border patrol tracked them down. Wasn't too hard...all we had to do is follow the Dr. Pepper cans.
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by squesh
ONE is too many. Bunch of disrespectful line-jumpers, should be shot. Millions more people WAIT IN LINE to legally immigrate here.


Yo, head between a loading dock and a trailer newby who can't call out his area of residence, If I need, or want any chit outta' YOU, I'll squeeze your head.

That said,....get on down here and get to shooting, it would be interesting to watch ( for a BRIEF lifespan).

GTC

Well, the fact is that they've been there for a while and I just found out about it yesterday. That kinda set me back. I'm in and outa there fairly regular. We've had two instances of gate crashers but they were being chased by the police.

The very last thing I want is to have an illegal get capped on the place. I can see some huge liability looming over that one. The BP has to do their job. The fact that they already busted 25 two months ago and there were new water bottle on the ground yesterday tells me that they don't give a hoot about my plan or anyone else's. Trouble is that even if they stop using that place there's 10 miles or so of county road right there that has thick brush all along it. They'll just go a mile or so up or down the road and set up again. These little camp sites are the places where one ride ends and the next begins. The coyotes can easily get 25 people in a van. The one by the gate concerns me more than the one that is actually on our place. I can see one of the ballsier ones deciding that he'd just as soon drive to Houston in a F150 than ride with 20 or so of his buddies. If they ever got the drop on me they'd be in possession of some grade "A" weaponry. Not a good thing.

Gone are the days of leaving an unlocked truck or house in rural Texas.

Hoping that the BP will run them off is really my best option. If I go out there and start picking up trash that's all that's going to happen. I'd might as well put out some barrels for the trash, some picnic tables and set up a little store to sell chips and sodas.

I know that there are some crooked BP agents. There are a lot of them that just do their jobs and a few that do their jobs well. The two that I talked to yesterday gave me the impression that they were somewhere in the upper 25%. At the very least they were out of their truck and out in the brush.

Even at best though their job is impossible. As long as it's defacto legal to be illegal they're just pissing into the wind.

Alan
Posted By: RandyR Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
You know that water bottles left with a surprise inside like ex-lax might leave a better trail to follow!
Posted By: crossfireoops Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Quote
As long as it's defacto legal to be illegal they're just pissing into the wind.


.....really could not have said THAT better if I tried.

once you've got "lay-ups", you're in the very thick of this ongoing debacle.

Weather this storm,...it WILL blow over.

GTC

Posted By: viking Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
On my way home tonight on 183 coming out of austin there where 2 crossing ahead of traffic. Not only do you have to watch out for deer thess days.
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
i could say, join the club. They are like cockroaches. And The B.P. have an impossible job.
I was out west of phx yesterday, just a few miles from I10. Sighting in a few rifles.
I had my wife with me, and told her to make sure where the glock was next to us, and never never leave the truck unattended while checking targets.
She was kind of looking at me as to why, and I explained the activity in the area, and the fact there was a couple thousand dollars in firearms sitting on the tailgate. Not something you want to be surprised with 100yards from the truck. Given the stuff i have seen in the area.
As to those stash spots, often you can smell them before you see them, human caca in quanity really reeks.
There is a place by Lake pleasant, north of phx which is dead central in the state, they have probably taken 25tons of crap out of. Convenient to roads for illegals, and good water supply.
they cause a lot of damage, cattle losses, fence damage, fires, you name it. I had one take up residence and trash my travel trailer a few years ago. I mentioned to the investigating cop if i catch one in there again i was of a mind to turn the dogs loose on him. Cop said you better not, or you would get sued if the illegal got hurt.
Posted By: Crockettnj Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Just curious, but does anyone ever hear rumor of residents doing a S, S, Shut up? I am not insinuating anyone here does or is, just asking. I never hear of it, which could speak to the shut up part.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Back in the old days it used to happen. Now, not so much.

Usually the stories from back then were of raids on rural ranch houses or assaults with intent to rob or kill.
Posted By: SCRUBS Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Wouldn`t have this problem if they put the hammer Thor down on businesses that hire them.....
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by SCRUBS
Wouldn`t have this problem if they put the hammer Thor down on businesses that hire them.....


Somewhat, that would help.

The later waves are coming for the benefits and entitlements, and not to work. A big portion are coming because of the unlimited supply of victims that have something worth stealing.
Originally Posted by Crockettnj
Just curious, but does anyone ever hear rumor of residents doing a S, S, Shut up? I am not insinuating anyone here does or is, just asking. I never hear of it, which could speak to the shut up part.


The whole concept of SSS is the last S. But, There are just not that many people, landowners and others who are that eager to take a human life. Besides most people I know are too lazy to do the second S. But most of all having dead people on the place is something that I really want to do without.

What I can't imagine is being one of those illegals being shipped around like cattle from one set of pens to another. Last I heard the going rate was around $3G for a trip to Houston. You could hire a stretch limo in Laredo and party all the way to Houston for less than that. Trouble is that there's not enough Limos in the United States to keep up with the demand.

On my drive out there I get to drive by a spot on the highway where there are 15 crosses all in a row. It is a testimony to our immigration policies. WE say it's illegal to enter the US without the proper documentation, but WE don't really do much to prevent it. Then, WE, take exception to violations of our laws and for the sake of whatever adrenaline rush the cops get out of it chase the rolling sardine cans until the driver crashes and bails. The sardines pay the price, our county coffers take the hit on the dead people, the coyotes howl at the moon and our politicians wring their hands and shed crocodile tears.

Alan



Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Alan,

I know the spot well. The SA paper did a story about it a few days ago, with updates.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...to-the-victims-3743484.php#photo-3235957

I was in one of the local feed stores when the Goliad paper had the story right after it happened, and all the folks were talking about what a horrific accident that was, and those poor people..etc.

Casually mentioned that If they had stayed home, they wouldn't have been in that accident.

Everyone stopped talking and glared at me. You could have heard a pin drop in there. I never expected that reaction from them, but hey, they must be getting used to the high capacity vehicles getting caught down here by now. That was over two years ago. It was happening then, and it happens now.
Posted By: WillARights Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by Alan_R_McDaniel_Jr
I went out to the ranch to pick up a few pieces of lumber that I needed for a little project. Upon leaving the gate on the county road I encountered a Border Patrol vehicle parked on our side of the road with no Border Patrol agents in it. I stopped and waited outside my truck until they came out of the brush on our side of the road. They asked if I had seen anything unusual. I replied, "Only you guys". They were somewhat amused. They showed me a pretty fair sized camp site about 50 yards off the road that looked like one of those places out in Arizona where hundreds of illegals cross the border. Well, we don't have to go to Arizona to see that any more. We have our own. There were hundreds of plastic water bottles, some of which still had water in them and were not more than a week in the sun, and every other imaginable kind of trash and refuse laying around. They also showed me another campsite on the opposite side of the road right next to our gate.

In the 34 years that I have been regularly frequenting that ranch I have seen exactly "0" wetbacks. There were most certainly more than that there recently. The BP said they picked up 25 right there two months ago. They now have my name and number and will call me in the event of any further activity. I also gave them the combination to the gate and told them that they could go in any time they needed to. I told them that it would be a real good idea to call me if they were going in particularly during hunting season. I told them that I would disseminate this information because any of our family that were in the ranch would likely be very well armed.

We discussed the campsite area that the illegals were using and decided to leave it untouched and not clean it up so that they may continue to use it and maybe they can catch some more. As soon as they start catching them there they will move to another spot. I feel like they will stop using it quicker and more permanently if they know the BP goes there to catch illegals than if they simply know that the landowner cleans up after them.

Alan


Get a hog farmer to throw some hog sheit down, as long as the wind isnt blowin toward your house.

Theyll move along.
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by viking
On my way home tonight on 183 coming out of austin there where 2 crossing ahead of traffic. Not only do you have to watch out for deer thess days.


Was that one they found this morning under the US183/SH 45 interchange?
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by viking
On my way home tonight on 183 coming out of austin there where 2 crossing ahead of traffic. Not only do you have to watch out for deer thess days.


Was that one they found this morning under the US183/SH 45 interchange?


Run over?
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Dunno? Suspicious death. Apparently there was an accident around 3 a. m. On interchange. They dunno if it was related or not?
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
No Country For Old Men...
Posted By: viking Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
When I saw them, it was around 2310. Male and I think a female. They run across the n/bound to the South bound lanes.

Come to think about it would have been around 620/45. Because I came off of Duvall Road and was north bound.
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
I used to havta work in the traffic on that road! It's no place to dilly dally anytime of the day!
Posted By: jetbrook Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Alan,
Hate to here that we had a ranch south of Hebbronville for 17 years and got tired of all the illegal traffic the last three years. We recently moved to a new ranch in George West hoping to get away from the illegal traffic. Have been there two years so far so good but wont be surprised when I see my first one.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
I'd piss in them worta bottles.
Posted By: krupp Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
My problem with Hispanic illegals is that they sneak up here for a slice of the American pie and then march, scream and threaten unless it is a'la mode.
I have not seen in 20 years a Bosnian, Iraqi, or Vietnamese refugee/illegal break into a house, steal a car or rob a store.

The mujados and kaffirs aren't looking for a better life, they are looking for better hand outs and pickings.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Kaffirs.

Now there's a word... laugh

Not many here know it. We see them daily though, and what they do.
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
No Country For Old Men...

absolutely in agreement
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by slumlord
I'd piss in them worta bottles.

well actually the way it works is this:
few years ago took a friend to see the border down by douglas. He commented on these 50gallon jugs of water with flags flying.
Asked why they were there, for the illegals to fill up was the answer.
He said why don't we pee in them? Answer, look at the camera on the hill you get caught doing that and then the federales on the american side arrest your butt.
Posted By: curdog4570 Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
I used to havta work in the traffic on that road! It's no place to dilly dally anytime of the day!


Probably been 30 years since the local S O sent a Deputy out to the edge of town about midnight and deposited a wetback they were tired of feeding.

One of my son's high school friends came along about 2 am and ran over him. Killed him dead. No charges filed.

Kind of an official S S S.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
they run over more drunk Indians around reservations than they do deer...

Usually, that doesn't even make the paper.

Why they are attracted to highways on dark nights, I'll never know. But they are.
Posted By: KC Re: Illegal aliens�.. - 10/22/14
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