I bike 12 miles a day on 30 mph speed limit roads where I average 15 mph. So I get passed by a lot of cars.
The comedian stereotype of the green Subaru outback being driven by a lesbian may be true, I dunno.
But Subaru drivers in general are the least dangerous in their passing. Teslas are ok. Mercedes are ok. Lexus are ok. But BMWs and Prius are like the Porsche pricks of the 1970s. Porsche SUVs are still pricks.
You forgot to mentions Benzes. Drivers act like selfish idiots. I know, I've had two.
Actually, though I've never had one, a Subaru 4WD makes a lot of sense. Not outrageously expensive and functional. The only issue I could see would be access to service.
I know that a lot of subaru owners are the coexist, obama sticker idiots. Around here its a mix of those types and normal people. My dad had a outback and he is a very conservative man. I had a brat when I was in my twenties and I'm a very conservative man also. If I were to buy a new vehicle that wasn't a truck it would be a subaru, probably a forester if they still make those.
As far as the drivers go everybody drives like idiots in morristown tn, no matter what they drive.
I watched a youtube video a couple of days ago of a all wheel drive shootout, subaru all wheel drive beat all the competition hands down. Even honda got spanked.
I have a buddy that bought a used (99) Subaru wagon as just a knock around car and he loves the thing. Says it seems bulletproof and does really well in bad conditions.
I know that the little turbo WRX sedans are badazz little cars. They seem to be really popular in rally type races and look like they would be hoot to drive.
I bike 12 miles a day on 30 mph speed limit roads where I average 15 mph. So I get passed by a lot of cars.
The comedian stereotype of the green Subaru outback being driven by a lesbian may be true, I dunno.
But Subaru drivers in general are the least dangerous in their passing. Teslas are ok. Mercedes are ok. Lexus are ok. But BMWs and Prius are like the Porsche pricks of the 1970s. Porsche SUVs are still pricks.
Pickups in Virginia take the first by long. And if the driver is in good mood he will gun the diesel engine for the benefit of the bicyclist.
I am convinced pickup drivers are compensating for something.
A month ago I test drove a used Subaru with 66K on the odometer and then I test drove another vehicle with 51K on the odometer. It cost a bit more, but I got the Lexus RX350.
I have had 2 of them an Impreza for commuting and an Outback both bought brand new and both properly maintaned. I have owned 5 Toyos ,1 Nissan and 5 Hondas. I had more problems with the 2 subarus then the other 11 cars cumulatively. No [bleep] way ever.
Outback now lives in Nebraska and every cv joint, front axles, alternator, water pump , wiper motor and transmission have been replacd and it has 150k . That mileage is nothing compared to what I have run up on some of the Toyos and Hondas.
I have a 2008 Outback (For the record, I am a bit right of Attila the Hun) that I bought coming off a lease. It is used daily to do everything from estimates to loaded down with chainsaws to trips up north to go wood chucking in the summer . I would never give up my GMC pick ups but the car is dependable, economical and crazy good in the snow!…If I happen to offend a few "left minded people" with my NRA sticker etc. oh well.
Liberal bitch-mobiles. I would almost rather be seen driving a Chevy Avalanche, almost.
I'm sure they are great cars but way to [bleep]' gay. And yes, it is possible for a car to be gay.
Driving a Subaru ranks right up there with riding a peddle bike out on the highway. If the stupidity has to be explained well then you are literally a dumb son of a bitch!
I don't give a damn about their commercials or the sexual orientation of anyone else that buys Subarus. I am on my second Outback. I'm Conservative and love them. My 2000 Outback was rear ended turning into a gun club's road. My car was catapulted thru a 6X6 sign post and into a bunch of cedars. The other car had to be put on a flat bed and removed. I was able to back my Subaru thru and over the cedars back to the road. I had it checked out by the local Subaru dealer despite the body damage (that resulted in it being totaled) it was safe to drive the 250 miles home. They were pulling branches out from the under carriage, checked it over and said it wasn't even out of alignment. In everyone's book, that's a tough car! It had about 110K when it was totaled. I went right out and bought another one (2007) and have 119K on that one. While hunting on State Land, after a snowstorm, on an unplowed road with a couple buddies in my Subaru,we drove around a Ford Explorer that was stuck. My buddies could not believe it.
We own or have owned Toyotas, Hondas, Kia and a Mercury, my Subarus are as reliable as any of them. The only thing I've had to replace are a couple of wheel bearings. My mechanic who has an independent auto repair shop, loves Subarus.
I never owned one, but given their history, I would consider one. Having said that, their radio commercials are gut wrenching. One commercial in particular, the guy talks about a 3 mile treacherous ride to work. 3 MILES! Some folks on here have driveways longer than that. Makes me ill.
I drove a 2006 Outback as a work issued car for a couple years. The AWD system is flawless and the little thing stuck to the road like glue, even in the winter. That's about all the good I can say about it.
I don't care for the boxer engine. It seems rougher than an inline and IMO, was a little weak. The automatic transmission was seriously frustrating. When accelerating from a stop in a normal fashion, it would start out in 2nd gear and was totally gutless. I would have to tromp on the gas pedal to get it to downshift, which took about 2-3 seconds. By this time, that window in the flow of traffic you thought you were able to leisurely pull out into has nearly closed. The only alternative was to drive it like you stole it when in traffic. Not a great thing for your employment status when driving a marked company vehicle.
Lots of folks love them, though and far be it from me to try to change their minds.
They aren't too many liberal greenies around here, but there are people that want a safer go-in-the-snow vehicle; hence, Subarus are seen regularly. I've never heard anyone complain about them.
Subaru is OBVIOUSLY marketing to the very people that I just can't stand. And I'm not talking lesbians(they don't bother me), I'm talking about the goody two shoes wannabee environmentalist types. Enviro-posers, [bleep] 'em and their gay-ass Subaru.
And I'll eat crow if somebody finds a source that says Subaru doesn't contribute to the 'enviro wannabee causes'.
I don't dislike the car, just the ideology that seems to go with it.
The new Forester is tough to beat 29 mpg go anywhere AWD and seems to be holding up to our bumpy rural road nicely, the old one was a tank.
On stereotype watch my wife had just had a haircut and drove up to her job interview in the old Forester when she was hired by an outfit with an all lesbian management team. I still tease her about it after several years. Nice folks but I think they were surprised when they met me.
I am convinced pickup drivers are compensating for something.
Yea,,, they're compensating for having to haul chit and not born jack-asses.
That is their problem, not mine. Not giving enough space when passing, riding bumpers like some demented freak, using huge pickup to commute back and forth to government office job - thats daily reality in Northern Virginia.
I don't give a damn about their commercials or the sexual orientation of anyone else that buys Subarus. I am on my second Outback. I'm Conservative and love them. My 2000 Outback was rear ended turning into a gun club's road. My car was catapulted thru a 6X6 sign post and into a bunch of cedars. The other car had to be put on a flat bed and removed. I was able to back my Subaru thru and over the cedars back to the road. I had it checked out by the local Subaru dealer despite the body damage (that resulted in it being totaled) it was safe to drive the 250 miles home. They were pulling branches out from the under carriage, checked it over and said it wasn't even out of alignment. In everyone's book, that's a tough car! It had about 110K when it was totaled. I went right out and bought another one (2007) and have 119K on that one. While hunting on State Land, after a snowstorm, on an unplowed road with a couple buddies in my Subaru,we drove around a Ford Explorer that was stuck. My buddies could not believe it.
We own or have owned Toyotas, Hondas, Kia and a Mercury, my Subarus are as reliable as any of them. The only thing I've had to replace are a couple of wheel bearings. My mechanic who has an independent auto repair shop, loves Subarus.
Yeah replaced a few wheel bearings did you? LOL bigger hyped POS was never made. I bet your Mechanic loves them my mechanic loves him some subarus and beemers.
I am convinced pickup drivers are compensating for something.
Yea,,, they're compensating for having to haul chit and not born jack-asses.
That is their problem, not mine. Not giving enough space when passing, riding bumpers like some demented freak, using huge pickup to commute back and forth to government office job - thats daily reality in Northern Virginia.
They can drive whatever the puck they want to drive to work what business is it of yours?
Subaru commercials alone are reason enough to not buy one. Pussy whipped males with a 3 day growth of beard and a woman that wants to be president seem to be the standard or target audience.
Subaru also supports ASPCA and other liberal agendas. I am not a fan of people that buy them or the company itself. I would rather drive a diesel pollution emitting gas guzzling poor mileage vehicle than own or support their ideals.
As the thread goes on, more and more campfire members get put on ignore...
A few days ago I spent lunch taking a walk at a local park. 5 or 8 miles of trail cross a wooded lot. Sign posts and maps every 100ft.
I passed a middle age woman, huffin and puffin, head to toe in North Face, Marmot, Outdoor Research. I'm talking full on, I'm gonna climb K2 kinda chit. Right down to her trekking poles and boot gaiters. To take a walk in a fuggin city park......in the sun......
Yeah replaced a few wheel bearings did you? LOL bigger hyped POS was never made. I bet your Mechanic loves them my mechanic loves him some subarus and beemers.
Small price to pay for our go-to car to use when the going is tough. What car never has to have something replaced in 119K miles?
What kind a of pansy gives a s#!t about the marketing or who else drives a certain car?? I care about buying/driving a tough car, that will take me where I want to go, when I want to go, that is safe, reliable, and holds all my shooting/hunting stuff. My Subarus have fit that bill and served me well over the 15 years that I've owned them. That's all that I care about.
BTW, that low-slung boxer engine is one of the reason that they stick like glue to the road as it lowers the center of gravity.
The last two Subaru (I think they were Subarus?)commercials I have seen were geared toward families. One was a totaled car explaining the occupants lived, and it ended with some kids, a wife, and a dad getting into the Subaru that replaced their totaled Subaru.
The other one was a dad teaching his idiot sons to drive in an old Subaru and the mom was standing next to a new one in the driveway.
Before moving to MT I purchased a 2008 Forester for my then wife. Thinking it would be good in this environment. As I drove the U-Haul through Denver, I started getting the impression I made the right decisions. Because from Denver on, I swear to freakin' God, every third car was a Subaru.
I had no idea driving a Subaru made a woman a lesbian. I actually learned that here at the Campfire. But I will say it sure made me laugh when I gave it to the ex-wife in the divorce.
Great car. Lots of power and stuck to the road like glue. You could really fly around corners on dirt/gravel roads too. If they contribute to environmental causes, that is news to me.
So, are a lot of dogs buying Subarus as a result of their commercials?
Also, are a lot of people looking for a vehicle that is designed to make sure that you get rear-ended by another vehicle?
You need to visit shrapnel and Rancho in la-la-land.
All anybody in Bozeman drives is Subaru. Some Volvos too. They ALL have dogs. All of them. They go everywhere with their goddammmed dogs. In front of every restaurant there are dogs tied up outside on the sidewalk. Every park is loaded with dogs. Every [bleep]' car in Bozeman has a minimum of one dog in it.
It's more than a little strange and I am definitely not the only one to notice it.
And in Bozeman if you are driving a Subaru it is a city ordinance that the dog in the back must be a lab. If it is a male it must be named "Bridger" and if it is female it must be named " Madison".
This is not an optional program.
And the Luggage rack must have a Yakima Space Pod thingy on it.
I agree with the posters who tout the bad weather capabilities of Subarus. My wife and son drive them and we really don't care what people think. They really work well in snowy, icy conditions, and the AWD system seems to be the best available at the price point. They do seem to be rough on tires, although the newest two are much better, and the gas mileage is not great, but those are secondary and tertiary concerns. We did have one that had recurring oxygen sensor problems and also needed new head gaskets at 60,000, but the company ate all but the first sensor replacement. We also don't run them for 150,000 miles, and the value holds up well around here, so getting a decent amount for a used one is not a problem.
When my son was in high school and got to drive the hand-me-down Outback, I made the mistake of telling him about the Campfire impression of Subarus, and that became a problem, but he endured. (He did not have a choice.) He now drives an Impreza that we gave him before college. He does a lot of bad weather driving over a 9000 foot mountain pass, and he realizes now that performance beats stereotypes and marketing. I don’t think we could have put him in a safer vehicle for twice what we paid for it new.
Most commercials seemed to designed to make me not buy their products. Dr. Pepper is the worst one, and Carls Jr. is the only one that I like, that comes to mind immediately. That said, I seldom watch commercials. miles
if you have seen one macho part-of-your-manhood truck ad you have pretty much seen them all.
That is the point of advertising. Subaru targets liberals and gays, Ford doesn't want gays driving their trucks so they target men.
If they don't target the consumer for the purpose of buying their product, their money would be wasted. Have you ever seen a beer commercial that wasn't selling beer to beer drinkers?
I've got a friend who drives one, and I always crack up whenever I see it because he has stickers on it like "deer, the other red meat", and "NRA Life Member", and usually has it piled to the roof with muzzleloaders and/or fly rods. Not the typical Subaru for sure.
Another guy I know used to longline trap bobcats and coyotes out here in the breaks in one... He said it got around better in the snow than his Chevy..
If you ever went to a trailhead where there were several pickups and one Subaru parked there, the only vehicle that would still have air in the tires would be the Subaru...
When my first one got totaled this last summer , my buddy said "thank god. That thing was gayer than chit" Then I bought another.
Fact is they are popular for a reason that goes beyond advertising.
Last season I was dead set on driving through Seattle with a carcass on the roof. A friend and I both tagged out but just chucked them in the back instead of on the roof rack. The Forester held two whole, but headless, frozen mule deer and all our gear. Pretty dam good!
Next year, it's going on the roof for a tour of Seattle for sure!
The queerest thing about this thread is learning that big, tough, manly men make decisions on which car to drive not based on performance, personal needs, or reliability, but on commercials. Really? Learn to think for yourselves, now that's manly.
if you have seen one macho part-of-your-manhood truck ad you have pretty much seen them all.
That is the point of advertising. Subaru targets liberals and gays, Ford doesn't want gays driving their trucks so they target men.
If they don't target the consumer for the purpose of buying their product, their money would be wasted. Have you ever seen a beer commercial that wasn't selling beer to beer drinkers?
But it still remains that the Subaru ads are almost always clever and original and the truck ads are not.
I am convinced pickup drivers are compensating for something.
Yea,,, they're compensating for having to haul chit and not born jack-asses.
That is their problem, not mine. Not giving enough space when passing, riding bumpers like some demented freak, using huge pickup to commute back and forth to government office job - thats daily reality in Northern Virginia.
They can drive whatever the puck they want to drive to work what business is it of yours?
Their a$$hole behavior puts me in danger. What is it to you, do you drive a pickup?
The queerest thing about this thread is learning that big, tough, manly men make decisions on which car to drive not based on performance, personal needs, or reliability, but on commercials. Really? Learn to think for yourselves, now that's manly.
I am sure you have seen the movie "Sleepless In Seattle...
He does a lot of bad weather driving over a 9000 foot mountain pass, and he realizes now that [[Subaru] performance beats stereotypes and marketing. I don’t think we could have put him in a safer vehicle for twice what we paid for it new.
In 1997 I bought a used Ford Taurus station wagon for my kids to drive to school. My son (16 at the time) hit a patch of wet leaves at 15 mph going around a corner, hit a big ol' maple tree, and that POS Ford crumpled up like an empty Budweiser can. I did some research and confirmed that that car was a known unsafe POS, and if I wanted my kids to be as safe as possible on the ch!tty ice/wet roads of Wisconsin, I needed to buy a Volvo or a Subaru. Those were the two safest cars on the road at the time. I bought a used 1994 Subaru Legacy wagon with 66,000 miles on it.
I sold that Legacy wagon 10 years later with over 500K miles and virtually no money/work on it other than routine maintenance. Since then my kids and I have owned 4 more Subaru's, and all of them have been solid, reliable cars that perform on snow & ice better than 95% of the cars on the road.
I don't drive one now simply because we have snow & ice in this part of Texas exactly 1.428 days per year.
And as for penis-extenders, er, I mean, pickup trucks... Yes, I drive a pickup, and I use the sumbitch, but if I didn't live out here in the middle of BFE I wouldn't drive a pickup. I could get more use out of a Subaru Forester and a utility trailer and save a couple thousand dollars a year on fuel costs.
Most of the folks who "need" a pickup truck, don't. Pickups perform horribly on snow & ice, they get lousy gas mileage, and they don't ride for ch!tt compared to the average sedan. Not to mention that NTSB stats show that a pickup is much more dangerous to its occupants in a wreck than a sedan or minivan, more prone to roll over, and with less side impact protection.
Everybody insists they "need" four-wheel-drive, but if you look at the stats, most 4WD pickups never leave pavement, not even once! And if you look at the honest use of pickups for hauling stuff (and I'm talking about personal vehicles, not vehicles used for work) the pickup bed is empty for over 99 out of every 100 miles driven.
I saw the cutest little gal at a local restaurant the other day... she couldn't have been more than 5'4" in her 5" heels, and she had as good as the dad-gummed biggest, perkiest rack and shiniest peroxide-blonde hair-dos I've ever seen, and it was hard not to laugh as I watched her clamber up into her lifted F150 4X4 after leaving the diner.
Seems to me if we start talking about stereotypes of people & their vehicles, I'd have to say that the biggest, baddest pickups are typically driven by short guys and short gals. The guys are usually bald/ing and the gals usually have big ol' fake titties. At least that's my observation.
That is their problem, not mine. Not giving enough space when passing, riding bumpers like some demented freak, using huge pickup to commute back and forth to government office job - thats daily reality in Northern Virginia.
I think your issues have more to do with the area you live in, than the vehicle itself.
The queerest thing about this thread is learning that big, tough, manly men make decisions on which car to drive not based on performance, personal needs, or reliability, but on commercials. Really? Learn to think for yourselves, now that's manly.
I am sure you have seen the movie "Sleepless In Seattle...
Well, this guy hasn't...
Ha, ha, ha, boy that sure is funny right there. I shot with a fella who had a big Red Ford 250 4x4. Prettiest dang thing you ever wanted to see. He waxed it every week. No dirt on the carpeting. Never had anything in the bed. Not a scratch anywhere. He was so proud. Felt real manly too when he babied that thing, I'm sure. My Subarus saw more work and action than that babied "truck". He would never take it off of a paved road or put anything in it. I've hauled hay, composted manure, building supplies, crated pheasants for stocking etc etc etc in the back of my Subaru and gone off road in fields while goose hunting. It looks it too.
In my experience, those guys most worried about looking/acting all manly are the biggest pussies I've met. Either one is a real man and doesn't give a [bleep] about perception or he's a real pussy, more concerned about projecting manliness than being a real one.
...In my experience, those guys most worried about looking/acting all manly are the biggest pussies I've met. Either one is a real man and doesn't give a [bleep] about perception or he's a real pussy, more concerned about projecting manliness than being a real one.
That is their problem, not mine. Not giving enough space when passing, riding bumpers like some demented freak, using huge pickup to commute back and forth to government office job - thats daily reality in Northern Virginia.
I think your issues have more to do with the area you live in, than the vehicle itself.
Travis
you are right, just like this driver is doing it because of the area he lives in:
This thread is hilarious. I'm the kind of guy who doesn't give [bleep] what he drives. I drive a 2009 chevy cause I got a hell of a deal on it. I also drive the ugliest honda ever made, 2003 element back and forth to work and I also goose and duck hunt out of it. If I had my rathers I would be in a toyota truck and my beater would be something that got better mileage. If I'm fishing I drive my old 95 wrangler cause it gets me to places most anything else can't.
If it starts and runs and gets me from A to B I don't give a $hit what's on the grill, but I don't give a $hit about most things, so.
Marketing is for weak minded people. There's nobody gonna talk me out of my money if it doesn't suit my needs, and if I were in marketing I would pitch my vehicles to [bleep], dykes and whoever else had money to spend. Now if what Sharpnel said was true and subaru donates money to the anti's then I wouldnt contribute to that cause by buying a new one. I'm in the same mindset as him when it comes to my money funding idiots and their causes.
I have a few companies I don't buy from despite the quality being very good. Kahr is one of them. I don't support cults and I won't drink samual adams cause they love homos.
...In my experience, those guys most worried about looking/acting all manly are the biggest pussies I've met. Either one is a real man and doesn't give a [bleep] about perception or he's a real pussy, more concerned about projecting manliness than being a real one.
most worried about looking/acting all manly are the biggest pussies I've met. Either one is a real man and doesn't give a [bleep] about perception or he's a real pussy, more concerned about projecting manliness than being a real one.
And in Bozeman if you are driving a Subaru it is a city ordinance that the dog in the back must be a lab. If it is a male it must be named "Bridger" and if it is female it must be named " Madison".
This is not an optional program.
And the Luggage rack must have a Yakima Space Pod thingy on it.
You neglected to mention the RMEF Bumper Sticker, too.
What I'm talking about is about character, not fashion, trends or labels. It may or may not apply to the gents pictured. Unless I have to interact with them on some level, I really don't care and speculation is a waste of time.
most worried about looking/acting all manly are the biggest pussies I've met. Either one is a real man and doesn't give a [bleep] about perception or he's a real pussy, more concerned about projecting manliness than being a real one.
I've owned a couple of Subaru 4x4 wagons, a 1983 when I was in grad school and a 2002 for my daughter to drive. Very reliable and good in snow, with good tires that is. I drove the 1983 for two years, about 20K miles, and sold it for $1K more than I paid for it, but I had put $1.5K into it for struts, shocks, tires, and brakes. That said, I figure that $500 for 20K miles is $0.025 per mile, pretty cheap transportation.
EDIT: I had a Thule Combibox on the 1983 wagon, but it wasn't long enough inside to haul my 223cm and 220cm Downhill racing skis. Those traveled inside with the trails on the dash and the tips back near the liftgate. I once heard, don't know if it was true, that Subaru was, maybe still is, the most popular make in Colorado and Vermont because of their "go in snow" reputation.
Now if what Sharpnel Shrapnel said was true and subaru donates money to the anti's then I wouldnt contribute to that cause by buying a new one. I'm in the same mindset as him when it comes to my money funding idiots and their causes.
Shrapnel's statement was indeed true, as far as it goes... Subaru has been donating money to the ASPCA for the past 7 years. The company supports 4 national charities, including the ASPCA (the others are the Make-A-Wish Foundation, Meals On Wheels, and the National Parks Foundation), as well as 600+ local charities to a total of $15 million per year. When you buy a new Subaru, the company will donate $250 on your behalf to the charity of your choice within that group.
ASPCA's policy statement on hunting states that:
"The ASPCA is opposed to hunting animals for sport, even if the animals killed in this way are subsequently consumed..."
Now, I REALLY don't like the ASPCA because of its anti-hunting stance, and I don't give them money as a result even though they help operate a lot of pet shelters, which is something I approve of. But I really DO like the work done by Meals-on-Wheels, and sort of like Make-A-Wish and the National Parks Foundation. So 3 of their 4 national charities are OK or better, in my book.
So: Subaru has pledged to donate $15 million this year to charity. About half of that money goes to local charities, and the other half is split four ways among national charities, one of which I strongly oppose. At most, the ASPCA will get about $1.875 million from Subaru, not one dollar of which will be "mine" if I buy a Subaru this year, because I'll designate my money to go to the local pet shelter.
Since I've never bought a new Subaru, no portion of the amount paid went to an anti-hunting organization, unless the seller made a donation from the $$ that I paid to him/her.
I am probably one of the most conservative members on this forum. I have had two Subarus, but it has been awhile. Subaru was one of the first with the small car 4WD. I first a had sedan , FWD, and then the hatchback. Went thru two engines with the hatchback. I was commuting 60 miles RT every day and there were few cars then that got decent mileage. Subaru was one of them.
The queerest thing about this thread is learning that big, tough, manly men make decisions on which car to drive not based on performance, personal needs, or reliability, but on commercials. Really? Learn to think for yourselves, now that's manly.
Real tough men watch perverts,[bleep],lesbos drive Subarus. Subaru donates to causes I do not support. Enough reason for me. Want a superior all wheel drive car buy an Audi
My nephew had an AWD Audi. Nice car. He bought a house off a long pvt road that is in poor shape. He needed more ground clearance and bought - - - a Subaru. He's a real smart guy.
Are you saying that real tough men like to watch perverts, lesbos etc.??? I guess you are. Whatever floats your boat or gets a "rise" outta ya.
My nephew had an AWD Audi. Nice car. He bought a house off a long pvt road that is in poor shape. He needed more ground clearance and bought - - - a Subaru. He's a real smart guy.
Are you saying that real tough men like to watch perverts, lesbos etc.??? I guess you are. Whatever floats your boat or gets a "rise" outta ya.
Subaru gives millions of dollars to ASPCA who opposes all hunting. ASPCA gives money to other anti-hunting organizations. Sad to see hunters supporting a company who is working directly against us.
Always fun reading the campfire after a day in the trenches. Sounds like all but one say they're damn good cars, better than the rest for traction. Why is that? I heard one say low center of gravity, but going in a straight line, how can that improve traction? Just curious if the AWD system is engineered differently or??? Don't like the noisy engine myself, sounds like a throwback to me, but obviously that's subjective and means nothing.
My nephew had an AWD Audi. Nice car. He bought a house off a long pvt road that is in poor shape. He needed more ground clearance and bought - - - a Subaru. He's a real smart guy.
Are you saying that real tough men like to watch perverts, lesbos etc.??? I guess you are. Whatever floats your boat or gets a "rise" outta ya.
Always fun reading the campfire after a day in the trenches. Sounds like all but one say they're damn good cars, better than the rest for traction. Why is that? I heard one say low center of gravity, but going in a straight line, how can that improve traction? Just curious if the AWD system is engineered differently or??? Don't like the noisy engine myself, sounds like a throwback to me, but obviously that's subjective and means nothing.
You only drive in a straight line? I guess the steering wheel for you is an option.
I drove a PINK car back and forth to work and college for four years, because I bought it like new for $2k cheaper than anything similar on the lot.
I had to be real secure to get that done! The funniest is that I used to use it for hunting also, and hauled dead deer on top of the trunk. Quite the look when you get out of a pink car dressed in Carharts and camo, and check the straps on a dead deer while filling up at the local Cenex.
PS--after four years, I sold the car for almost as much as I paid for it!
I drove a PINK car back and forth to work and college for four years, because I bought it like new for $2k cheaper than anything similar on the lot.
I had to be real secure to get that done! The funniest is that I used to use it for hunting also, and hauled dead deer on top of the trunk. Quite the look when you get out of a pink car dressed in Carharts and camo, and check the straps on a dead deer while filling up at the local Cenex.
PS--after four years, I sold the car for almost as much as I paid for it!
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Its all I got Sammo.....I drive a fuggin' Subaru and gotta dig up sumptin' on them Fords! (which I drive as well, dammit)
After bashing Subarus and seeing their connection to ASPCA, I can't post now without some puppy looking me in the face and wanting me to contribute to ASPCA. What is this site coming to. ASPCA ads on a hunting/shooting/outdoor website.
Now I really hate Subarus. There are plenty of cars out there to get you where you want to go and all the guys that like them still don't make a case for owning one of those pieces of $hit...
After bashing Subarus and seeing their connection to ASPCA, I can't post now without some puppy looking me in the face and wanting me to contribute to ASPCA. What is this site coming to. ASPCA ads on a hunting/shooting/outdoor website.
Now I really hate Subarus. There are plenty of cars out there to get you where you want to go and all the guys that like them still don't make a case for owning one of those pieces of $hit...
I've heard the secret to Suburu engines and their success is the fast twist cylinders.
What car never has to have something replaced in 119K miles?
2001 Toyota Corolla.
Pretty sure the first clutch lasted more'n that. A CV joint went out at about 250,000.
I did break down and replace the original struts and springs last fall when I was getting the second clutch. Not too shabby for 350,000 miles
Doesn't look like much, it was sideswiped by a drunk in a pickup once, but that was patched up on account of we was still making payments, and then my son and then my daughter-in-law both rear ended people in it. After the second one the hood was crimped in the middle to a pyramid shape and the grill pushed back considerable. A guy at a West Side body shop hammered it back to useable-if-not-pretty shape in two hours for $160
I gotta recognize virtuosity when I see it; I also had a dented and leaking rim fixed with exactly two knocks of a hammer for five bucks. The guy is a prodigy.
Much smaller but actually faster than our 2010 Corolla on account of its an actual cable hook up from gas pedal to fuel injectors instead of some friggin computer deciding how fast I SHOULD be accelerating.
Sorry... we was talking Subarus here.
I dunno if the wheel bearings ever got greased, maybe, it was the high school shop that did the work this last time, and that guy has 'em do everything.
A hunter buying a Subaru is like a butcher joining PETA it makes absolutely no sense!
It's a whole lot less contradictory than buying and using products made in China or using products made from oil pumped out of places where people hate us. How many people posting on the Campfire are using Chinese made computers, tablets and smart phones? Where did your gasoline start out?
Hell, the only things fundamental to life are food/water/fire/shelter
Everything else is secondary.
True, nowhere does the need to buy a Subaru outweigh the other options available. Subaru isn't the only car you can buy...
That is true. I could have spent a minimum of $25,000 more to get 2 cars with comparable features that we needed, which also costs more for insurance and annual license fees, and requires a 100 mile round trip for service. And, where do I draw the line? Can I buy a Toyota? The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and killed a lot of Americans. Can I buy a Ford? The Yankees suppressed the south during the Civil War.
I also could shop at mom and pop stores and pay $50 more per shopping trip than going to WalMart. Maybe I should, but I don't.
What car never has to have something replaced in 119K miles?
2001 Toyota Corolla.
Pretty sure the first clutch lasted more'n that. A CV joint went out at about 250,000.
I did break down and replace the original struts and springs last fall when I was getting the second clutch. Not too shabby for 350,000 miles
Doesn't look like much, it was sideswiped by a drunk in a pickup once, but that was patched up on account of we was still making payments, and then my son and then my daughter-in-law both rear ended people in it. After the second one the hood was crimped in the middle to a pyramid shape and the grill pushed back considerable. A guy at a West Side body shop hammered it back to useable-if-not-pretty shape in two hours for $160
I gotta recognize virtuosity when I see it; I also had a dented and leaking rim fixed with exactly two knocks of a hammer for five bucks. The guy is a prodigy.
Much smaller but actually faster than our 2010 Corolla on account of its an actual cable hook up from gas pedal to fuel injectors instead of some friggin computer deciding how fast I SHOULD be accelerating.
Sorry... we was talking Subarus here.
I dunno if the wheel bearings ever got greased, maybe, it was the high school shop that did the work this last time, and that guy has 'em do everything.
Birdwatcher
Pretty sure you're a woman. Regardless of what you drive.
Your observation is flawed, you noted that it was "bombed" and "suppressed". We bombed the Japs into submission and won the civil war, years ago. Subaru is currently involved in suppression and bombing at this moment, get something else...
"The ASPCA is opposed to hunting animals for sport, even if the animals killed in this way are subsequently consumed. The ASPCA does recognize that wildlife management may be necessary in situations where animal and human interests collide, but urges that management strategies be nonlethal wherever possible and never include avoidable suffering or distress."
"Exclusive Subaru VIP Deal for You, $100 for the ASPCA!
Subaru of America, Inc. (SOA) invites all eligible ASPCA Guardian and Founder’s Society members to participate in the Subaru VIP Partners Program. As an ASPCA Guardian or Founder, you may qualify for this special offer from Subaru when you lease or purchase a new Subaru!
Eligible Guardian members must be active and contributing members for at least six months to participate. Qualified Founder’s Society members include those who contribute in excess of $500 annually. Founders are immediately eligible for the VIP Program after making their donation to the ASPCA. Please submit the information below to obtain a VIP Verification form. You must receive your form BEFORE contacting your participating Subaru retailer in order to qualify for this benefit. If you purchase or lease a new Subaru without this form, you will not receive the VIP offer and the ASPCA will not receive $100. Please note that each form is valid for 45 days, after which time you can request a new form simply by sending an inquiry to [email protected] or by calling (646)706-4690."
How about Microsoft and Apple? They support a lot of things we don't like and it would be hard to find a modern household that does not contain and use their products.
Funny how people can't just enjoy a commercial. I don't drink Budweiser beer, but like the Bud commercials with the Clydesdales. I like the Dorito commercials, but don't eat them.
You guys get wrapped around the axles way too tight. If we all boycotted any company that we disagreed with their politics , we would be grinding our on wheat, drinking stream water and walking.
Hell one of the biggest detriment we as hunters face is the antis wanting to ban lead bullets and you all clamor and wet yourself over Barnes bullets .That company would dearly love the banning of lead, and the antis keep telling us that there are are alternatives to lead bullets like Barnes makes.
Funny how people can't just enjoy a commercial. I don't drink Budweiser beer, but like the Bud commercials with the Clydesdales. I like the Dorito commercials, but don't eat them.
You guys get wrapped around the axles way too tight. If we all boycotted any company that we disagreed with their politics , we would be grinding our on wheat, drinking stream water and walking.
Hell one of the biggest detriment we as hunters face is the antis wanting to ban lead bullets and you all clamor and wet yourself over Barnes bullets .That company would dearly love the banning of lead, and the antis keep telling us that there are are alternatives to lead bullets like Barnes makes.
Funny how people can't just enjoy a commercial. I don't drink Budweiser beer, but like the Bud commercials with the Clydesdales. I like the Dorito commercials, but don't eat them.
You guys get wrapped around the axles way too tight. If we all boycotted any company that we disagreed with their politics , we would be grinding our on wheat, drinking stream water and walking.
Hell one of the biggest detriment we as hunters face is the antis wanting to ban lead bullets and you all clamor and wet yourself over Barnes bullets .That company would dearly love the banning of lead, and the antis keep telling us that there are are alternatives to lead bullets like Barnes makes.
That's the ever loving point, very few people will stick to their convictions. Sure, they give it lots of lip service but if it causes the slightest inconvenience or cost a few bucks more, [bleep] conviction.
"The ASPCA is opposed to hunting animals for sport, even if the animals killed in this way are subsequently consumed. The ASPCA does recognize that wildlife management may be necessary in situations where animal and human interests collide, but urges that management strategies be nonlethal wherever possible and never include avoidable suffering or distress."
"Exclusive Subaru VIP Deal for You, $100 for the ASPCA!
Subaru of America, Inc. (SOA) invites all eligible ASPCA Guardian and Founder’s Society members to participate in the Subaru VIP Partners Program. As an ASPCA Guardian or Founder, you may qualify for this special offer from Subaru when you lease or purchase a new Subaru!
Eligible Guardian members must be active and contributing members for at least six months to participate. Qualified Founder’s Society members include those who contribute in excess of $500 annually. Founders are immediately eligible for the VIP Program after making their donation to the ASPCA. Please submit the information below to obtain a VIP Verification form. You must receive your form BEFORE contacting your participating Subaru retailer in order to qualify for this benefit. If you purchase or lease a new Subaru without this form, you will not receive the VIP offer and the ASPCA will not receive $100. Please note that each form is valid for 45 days, after which time you can request a new form simply by sending an inquiry to [email protected] or by calling (646)706-4690."
Good point, and turned my stomach when I saw the commercial (I don't own a Subaru). However, Cheyenne makes a good point, buying domestic supports UAW, which contributes heavily to Dem's and those who want to take away our firearms rights.
Buying GM after the bailout wouldn't make me happy either. I think we could find a problem with every car corporation if we looked.
Guess I'll have to start riding a horse.
Actually, I guess I'd be safe (except from weather) if I only drove my '64 Willy's Jeep.
The UAW has contributed nearly 72 Million to political campaigns over the last 25 years.
72 Million.
How much went to Republicans?
270 thousand.........out of 72 Million.
And you dummies are bitching because Subaru allows customers to donate, or not, a couple hundred bucks of the purchase to a charity. One of which is the ASPCA.
Yep, their adverts pander to lesbians and chubby guys in skinny jeans. Meanwhile Fords foundation actively supports the LGBT agenda.
Not to mention where all that Dodge, Ford, GM UAW money goes.
Jesus, the more you look at the UAW, Subaru is looking better and better.
Next time I buy a Ford I'm going to get a sworn affidavit from the salesman that he's not a Democrat and his wife does not donate any portion of their family income to an anti-hunting organization.
Next time I buy a Ford I'm going to get a sworn affidavit from the salesman that he's not a Democrat and his wife does not donate any portion of their family income to an anti-hunting organization.
here-here!!!!!
what if it is used from a different brand dealer or private sale??????????????????????????????????????????????????
Next time I buy a Ford I'm going to get a sworn affidavit from the salesman that he's not a Democrat and his wife does not donate any portion of their family income to an anti-hunting organization.
Our local Ford dealer lets us get winter grazing on some of his property. He had beer in his office on a Sunday when we bought my wife's SUV.
Next time I buy a Ford I'm going to get a sworn affidavit from the salesman that he's not a Democrat and his wife does not donate any portion of their family income to an anti-hunting organization.
Driving a Subaru ranks right up there with riding a peddle bike out on the highway. If the stupidity has to be explained well then you are literally a dumb son of a bitch!
Driving a Subaru ranks right up there with riding a peddle bike out on the highway. If the stupidity has to be explained well then you are literally a dumb son of a bitch!
Driving a Subaru ranks right up there with riding a peddle bike out on the highway. If the stupidity has to be explained well then you are literally a dumb son of a bitch!
On the money Sam, right on the money.
A chickensh&t thing to burn in Hell for if ya ask me, without even the 'nads to hang around and do it in person. Musta been a couple of petty f&kkers in the truck.
Every one of those people was off of the roadway or riding the fog stripe. And jeez that was one hellacious hill they were climbing
Proud to say I've been there done that, one of the coolest things I ever did. Cant wait to get the circumstance to do it over.
Next time I buy a Ford I'm going to get a sworn affidavit from the salesman that he's not a Democrat and his wife does not donate any portion of their family income to an anti-hunting organization.
I buy my groceries at a Kroger supermarket. I'm afraid to even ask what those [bleep] contribute to.
You're missing the point and exemplifying why this country is where this country is.
'Oh, he's ok, sure he voted for Obama but he likes guns'
'Sure, the store I shop at donated $500K to Obama, but I would need to drive another 10 miles to go to a store that didn't
Etc, etc
Point being, people are pretty strong on their convictions, UNLESS it hits there wallet or becomes an inconvenience.
This is the reason it will take HUGE shift in the tectonic plates to right this. People don't have the conviction, unless it's against a baker that won't do a cake for their Big Gay Greek Wedding.
Driving a Subaru ranks right up there with riding a peddle bike out on the highway. If the stupidity has to be explained well then you are literally a dumb son of a bitch!
On the money Sam, right on the money.
A chickensh&t thing to burn in Hell for if ya ask me, without even the 'nads to hang around and do it in person. Musta been a couple of petty f&kkers in the truck.
Every one of those people was off of the roadway or riding the fog stripe. And jeez that was one hellacious hill they were climbing
Proud to say I've been there done that, one of the coolest things I ever did. Cant wait to get the circumstance to do it over.
Birdwatcher
It's typically some chubby peckerless type in the truck. I take solace in the fact their fat azz will likely stroke out before age 60.
It's typically some chubby peckerless type in the truck. I take solace in the fact their fat azz will likely stroke out before age 60.
I do not know the motivation of that particular driver, but I can say that those bicyclists that spread themselves out over 10 miles of narrow, mountain roads have a tendency to back traffic up considerably, and piss a whole lot of fugging people off.
And for all you motorcycle guys that like to tour the west? Bunching up in packs that stretch 10 vehicle lengths, while driving 15 under the speed limit? Yeah... there's a reason people hate you.
I was commenting on the fella in the video. The cyclists were all on the shoulder or stopped in a turn out.
If the video showed 10 miles of cyclists backing traffic up, yes, they likely would of made a lot of people very angry and should expect a degree of retaliation, or venting of anger and exhaust. As would anyone backing up traffic for 10 miles, even if they were driving a beater 'Yota that couldn't pull the hill
As for bicycle pumps, the old metal frame mounted jobs were awesome! Bicycle shillelagh!
I really don't see the issue with subarus they are really pretty practical vehicles IMHO. AWD good mileage pretty tuff mechanics . I would definitely consider one as they offer hauling room for a bog crate and your bird hunting gear, room go your fishing gear etc. no it's not a pickup but neither is any other suv.
As to bike riders on the road thats a real pet peave of mine. I don't see how the riders can even begin to argue that they have a right to the road. Inadequate lights , no turn/ stop signals , don't pay hwy taxes, don't have minimum insurance. in my book they have no more rights than a wheel chair or skateboard and certainly less than golf carts and 4 wheelers which aren't allowed.
Have an Outback. Great in snow and is a great fit for short trip Bird hunting with a couple Dogs.
When they asked what I liked about the Outback, my reply was that I was amazed with how well it handled snow along with the fact I was a hunter and it fit some of those requirments fairly well.
Perhaps if more hunters let them know their positive thoughts they would include them in their marketing plan. If enough do they will.
Toyota is more and more marketing certain models towards the gay crowd. Wonder how that came about?
Never could figure how someone could get a nut by riding a wheel down the highway designed for motor vehicles, impeding traffic of those doing their best to get to work on time.
But I'm of the old school where men are men, women are women, blacks should work to eat just as everyone else and queers should live in the closet.
If Archie Bunker was not a Yankee, we would be alot alike
Have an Outback. Great in snow and is a great fit for short trip Bird hunting with a couple Dogs.
I have an Outback as well. Sure-footed, climbs like a mountain goat, gets great mileage. Pretty much lived out of it for 16 months while I was climbing mountains, ridin' my bicycles, and doing some pretty extreme trekking all over the Southwestern U.S., spent more nights under the stars than I did with a roof over my head during that time. Absolutely impressed with the vehicle in every way. It took me places and did things that the big 4-wheel drive trucks and SUV's that I'd been driving for the last 35 years would not (could not) do. Don't intend to be without one from now on. Doing the kind of stuff that I like to do, it's a perfect vehicle.
Never could figure how someone could get a nut by riding a wheel down the highway designed for motor vehicles, impeding traffic of those doing their best to get to work on time.
How are those bicyclists (who's taxes pay for those roads just like yours do) "impeding traffic" in any way when they are well to the right of the fog stripe and way over on the shoulder...?
Never could figure how someone could get a nut by riding a wheel down the highway designed for motor vehicles, impeding traffic of those doing their best to get to work on time.
How are those bicyclists (who's taxes pay for those roads just like yours do) "impeding traffic" in any way when they are well to the right of the fog stripe and way over on the shoulder...?
They "impede traffic" because if you fly by them @ 75mph they're either going to become seriously injured, or fugging die.
As a result, you have to slow down to bicycle speed until the opposing traffic stops so you can go around them.
Have an Outback. Great in snow and is a great fit for short trip Bird hunting with a couple Dogs.
When they asked what I liked about the Outback, my reply was that I was amazed with how well it handled snow along with the fact I was a hunter and it fit some of those requirments fairly well.
Perhaps if more hunters let them know their positive thoughts they would include them in their marketing plan. If enough do they will.
Toyota is more and more marketing certain models towards the gay crowd. Wonder how that came about?
[bleep] spandex petal monkies !!! Try hauling a dozer or even just driving a loaded dumptruck around here on these narrow blacktop hiways when these metoro's have a "tour" or ride. they won't look or move , even seen one fixing a flat on the center line of old 66
[bleep] spandex petal monkies !!! Try hauling a dozer or even just driving a loaded dumptruck around here on these narrow blacktop hiways when these metoro's have a "tour" or ride. they won't look or move , even seen one fixing a flat on the center line of old 66
Yeah. They don't give a fugg.
The only reason they don't die by the dozens every summer is because of the courtesy and compassion of motorists.
Wouldn't bother me where they rode... side, middle, left side, if they could travel at the speed limit... otherwise you are an impediment. No, the bicyclist pays no tax at the pump to keep up the roads.. none.
If they're traveling at bicycle speed to the right of the fog line and way over on the shoulder...a part of the road that you don't normally drive on...how is that "an impediment"...? People who have nice road bicycles also drive cars, and they pay the same tax at the pump to keep up the roads as you do. The same.
Living and working in rural or mountain areas, one's attitude toward bicycles, kayaks, and other such city folks activities, that come in hordes on weekends and summers and tend to cause change's to the entire area, in many ways causes a person to see these folks a different light, that isn't always so positive.
[quote=antlersIf they're traveling at bicycle speed to the right of the fog line and way over on the shoulder...a part of the road that you don't normally drive on...how is that "an impediment"...? Not True. In Colorado now ,if you pass them, you must be at least 3ft away, causing you to go into the other lane. Bad on a two lane highway with no shoulder. You are permitted to cross the yellow line if it is safe, but if there is traffic coming from the other direction ,you sit in back of them at 15 MPH in a 65 MPH zone. I'd say that is an impediment.
Living and working in rural or mountain areas, one's attitude toward bicycles, kayaks, and other such city folks activities, that come in hordes on weekends and summers and tend to cause change's to the entire area, in many ways causes a person to see these folks a different light, that isn't always so positive.
You forgot the quarter million dollar land yachts driven by people who have more money than driving ability coupled with plenty of spare time on their hands.
Rvs should be banned from hilly or winding 2 lanes or be required to maintain the minimum speed limits. Old person attitude that the world can kiss my ass is usually more of a problem than lack of horsepower
People who have nice road bicycles also drive cars, and they pay the same tax at the pump to keep up the roads as you do. The same.
The tax at the pump covers the motorized vehicle that the fuel goes in... not a wheel.
Our roads have no fog line for peddlers to ride... you are by god on the road or off the road. Here, roads are for cars and trucks. Children on wheels get my respect.. it's their only means of transportation.. them and drunks. Responsible adults need find a better place to recreate.
Also, pedestrians and wheel riders do not have the right of way on a public highway. One best "look both ways". It's a damn fine way to meet your maker to believe that bullshit.
Rvs should be banned from hilly or winding 2 lanes or be required to maintain the minimum speed limits. Old person attitude that the world can kiss my ass is usually more of a problem than lack of horsepower
mike r
Tractors as well. Old farmer taking up half the damn highway on his big azz John Deere burning red fuel.
People who have nice road bicycles also drive cars, and they pay the same tax at the pump to keep up the roads as you do. The same.
The tax at the pump covers the motorized vehicle that the fuel goes in... not a wheel. Our roads have no fog line for peddlers to ride... you are by god on the road or off the road.
But people who pay taxes at the pump for their cars sometimes ride bicycles too. And sometimes they ride em' on the road. They get to, whether impatient drivers like it it not...whether drivers are 'inconvienced' by it or not. Those folks in the video 'did' have a fog line, and they 'were' way over on the shoulder.
Originally Posted by GeoW
Here, roads are for cars and trucks. Responsible adults need find a better place to recreate.
Does the law 'there' specifically forbid bicyclists and pedestrians from also using the roads...? If not, then they get to use em' too, regardless of who does or doesn't like it. If the law says they are allowed to use the road, 'you' still say they "need" to recreate somewhere else so 'you' won't be inconvenienced...?
Rvs should be banned from hilly or winding 2 lanes or be required to maintain the minimum speed limits. Old person attitude that the world can kiss my ass is usually more of a problem than lack of horsepower
mike r
Tractors as well. Old farmer taking up half the damn highway on his big azz John Deere burning red fuel.
Living and working in rural or mountain areas, one's attitude toward bicycles, kayaks, and other such city folks activities, that come in hordes on weekends and summers and tend to cause change's to the entire area, in many ways causes a person to see these folks a different light, that isn't always so positive.
You forgot the quarter million dollar land yachts driven by people who have more money than driving ability coupled with plenty of spare time on their hands.
No joking !! Take some guy (nice guy even) retires sells home and buys 40' motorhome or truck and 40' 5th wheel, but has never driven anything larger than a pick up in his life , lacks the experiance , skill to operate safely and than gets scared = train wreck
Does the law 'there' specifically forbid bicyclists and pedestrians from also using the roads...? If not, then they get to use em' too, regardless of who does or doesn't like it. If the law says they are allowed to use the road, 'you' still say they "need" to recreate somewhere else so 'you' won't be inconvenienced...?
laffin'
laffin' In the case you are presenting, yes, it is forbidden without a parade permit.
As a side note, damned golf carts are getting into the mix now.. Not long ago witnessed a hit and run on a cart.. two senior occupants airlifted to the hospital.
Where is it "forbidden" for someone to ride a bicycle on the side of the roadway without a parade permit...?
It's forbidden anywhere where there are groups of bicyclist and pedestrians traveling down the highway with the false sense of security having been told that they in fact do have right of way and at a speed under the posted legal speed limit.
It has the aura of life in the third world.
There is no law preventing a wheel or a pedestrian from traveling down the side of the road but they do get killed on a regular basis and no charges are filed against the drivers of the motorized vehicles who done it unless DUI or the like. It gets the "well, if he didn't have good sense enough to get out of the road..." category, and is not unlike a train/automobile wreck... oh well!
So, it's not "illegal" for bicyclists to use the road where you are. That's all you had to say...that it's not "illegal". Incidentally, other taxes besides just the ones we pay at the pump also go to pay for and maintain the roadways. Yep, ridin' on the roadside is often dangerous, and it's a risk many of us choose to take anyway. When I take a bicycle ride of over a hundred miles in 6 or 7 hours it's hard to do it without riding on the side of the road...the ones that I help pay for and maintain.
So, it's not "illegal" for bicyclists to use the road where you are. That's all you had to say...that it's not "illegal". Incidentally, other taxes besides just the ones we pay at the pump also go to pay for and maintain the roadways. Yep, ridin' on the roadside is often dangerous, and it's a risk many of us choose to take anyway. When I take a bicycle ride of over a hundred miles in 6 or 7 hours it's hard to do it without riding on the side of the road...the ones that I help pay for and maintain.
That's cool. But if you get hit by a car, a lot of us will make fun of you.
I have a neighbor that is a grown man, +-40, but special needs... Can not drive a car but rides a wheel 40-50 miles a day.
About a mile from my house the other day I drive around a curve and have to slam on brakes to keep from rear ending the last car in a line of backed up traffic, maybe 5 cars in the line. It appears that neighbor, David, had spotted a turtle crossing the road, parked his wheel in the middle of the road and was in the process of blocking traffic, like a traffic cop, holding traffic in both directions.
I pulled over as I knew David and walked up to where he was, picked up the turtle and put him down on the side of the road in direction in which he was traveling.
Tried to explain to David but not too sure he understood.
I have a neighbor that is a grown man, +-40, but special needs... Can not drive a car but rides a wheel 40-50 miles a day.
About a mile from my house the other day I drive around a curve and have to slam on brakes to keep from rear ending the last car in a line of backed up traffic, maybe 5 cars in the line. It appears that neighbor, David, had spotted a turtle crossing the road, parked his wheel in the middle of the road and was in the process of blocking traffic, like a traffic cop, holding traffic in both directions.
I pulled over as I knew David and walked up to where he was, picked up the turtle and put him down on the side of the road in direction in which he was traveling.
Tried to explain to David but not too sure he understood.
Never a boring moment.. Entertaining thread too
At least he had an excuse. Some woman around here stopped on the freeway for a pack of damn geese and caused a hell of a wreck.
Stopped in the middle of I5! For a goose! I would try and shoe them outta the way, but not at risk to someone's life.
I buy my groceries at a Kroger supermarket. I'm afraid to even ask what those [bleep] contribute to.
You're missing the point and exemplifying why this country is where this country is.
'Oh, he's ok, sure he voted for Obama but he likes guns'
'Sure, the store I shop at donated $500K to Obama, but I would need to drive another 10 miles to go to a store that didn't
Just over half the voters who voted in this country voted Democrat in the 2012 presidential election.
That's a lot of internal enemies to deal with. You know, internal enemies of America. People who deserve to die screaming in agony for days or even weeks before they [bleep] die.
Some of those enemies of America own businesses. Even more of them work in businesses that are owned by people who aren't [bleep] internal enemies of America.
I don't have [bleep] time to research every [bleep] store I buy [bleep] from.
Antlers I have a direct question for you since you are such a proponent of bikes on the road. How come when available bike riders don't ride on the side walk?
Ok, my previous link was of a Subaru in a Southern snowstorm. This is why we use them up in the North where we get some real snow. A Subaru with 2 feet of snow going up a driveway.
Antlers I have a direct question for you since you are such a proponent of bikes on the road. How come when available bike riders don't ride on the side walk?
Not Antlers, but you might want to check your local ordinances. Lots of places say you can't ride a bicycle on a sidewalk. Doesn't stop some of those avowed enemies of America from doing it, of course.
Another reason is that children and old people keep getting in the way. I say [bleep] 'em. No real American respects government overreach.
Antlers I have a direct question for you since you are such a proponent of bikes on the road. How come when available bike riders don't ride on the side walk?
Because they don't have the athleticism to jump curbs and they were born with a dick in their mouth.
You keep on reckoning.....or reconing. Hang a pic of you driving your school bus while you're at it!
You have that directed at 5sdad , but think you were directing at me . so why do you think I drive a school bus ? Think you still pissed from all the years of riding on the short bus
Antlers I have a direct question for you since you are such a proponent of bikes on the road. How come when available bike riders don't ride on the side walk?
People who put lots of miles on a road bike aren't tootlin' around the neighborhood like a lot of us did when we rode bicycles as a kid. We have specialized bikes that are made specifically for riding on the road, not sidewalks. The smoother the pavement, the better. We go long distances, even up to and over 100 miles during the course of one ride. And we often go as fast as our conditioning and the environment (hills, wind, heat or cold, pavement condition, traffic, etc.) will allow us to. Averaging 20 mph or more, and going well above that sometimes. Riding on the sidewalk is not conducive to any of that. And again, good road bikes aren't made for sidewalks, they're made for the road. I can see how it would be hard to understand for folks who aren't cyclists...especially endurance cyclists...but for those folks here who do ride, and especially those who like to go long on the road, they can verify my answer to your question.
One poster mentioned earlier about a State law where he lived that required cars to give bicyclists on the road 3 feet of room when they pass em'. If they're not able to, then they just gotta wait till they can. Oklahoma has a similar law. Cyclists should get over to the right as much as they safely can, but unless it's illegal for them to ride on a particular stretch of road...they have as much right to be on it with their bicycles as you do with your car or truck.
Antlers I have a direct question for you since you are such a proponent of bikes on the road. How come when available bike riders don't ride on the side walk?
People who put lots of miles on a road bike aren't tootlin' around the neighborhood like a lot of us did when we rode bicycles as a kid. We have specialized bikes that are made specifically for riding on the road, not sidewalks. The smoother the pavement, the better. We go long distances, even up to and over 100 miles during the course of one ride. And we often go as fast as our conditioning and the environment (hills, wind, heat or cold, pavement condition, traffic, etc.) will allow us to. Averaging 20 mph or more, and going well above that sometimes. Riding on the sidewalk is not conducive to any of that. And again, good road bikes aren't made for sidewalks, they're made for the road. I can see how it would be hard to understand for folks who aren't cyclists...especially endurance cyclists...but for those folks here who do ride, and especially those who like to go long on the road, they can verify my answer to your question.
One poster mentioned earlier about a State law where he lived that required cars to give bicyclists on the road 3 feet of room when they pass em'. If they're not able to, then they just gotta wait till they can. Oklahoma has a similar law. Cyclists should get over to the right as much as they safely can, but unless it's illegal for them to ride on a particular stretch of road...they have as much right to be on it with their bicycles as you do with your car or truck.
I had my old short bed truck stuck ON the road above the Pack Saddle bridge. Some jerk in an old Subaru stopped beside me and ask if I was broke down. When I told him "no, stuck" the a----le laughed and drove off. Soon bought new tires.
I had my old short bed truck stuck ON the road above the Pack Saddle bridge. Some jerk in an old Subaru stopped beside me and ask if I was broke down. When I told him "no, stuck" the a----le laughed and drove off. Soon bought new tires.
You keep on reckoning.....or reconing. Hang a pic of you driving your school bus while you're at it!
You have that directed at 5sdad , but think you were directing at me . so why do you think I drive a school bus ? Think you still pissed from all the years of riding on the short bus
I had my old short bed truck stuck ON the road above the Pack Saddle bridge. Some jerk in an old Subaru stopped beside me and ask if I was broke down. When I told him "no, stuck" the a----le laughed and drove off. Soon bought new tires.
as far as bikes on the sidewalk goes the name is self explaining. side WALK. imagine the carnage if a bike went down a sidewalk at 20 mph! come to think of it I have seen it happen in Venice Beach.
When I was young and stupid (I am now old), our small town (a real small town, not these 8,000 people "small towns" that you hear about)was so unsophisticated that no one ever saw anything wrong with riding bikes on the sidewalk. I believe that the general consensus was that it kept the kids out from under cars and we were, at an early age, impressed with the understanding that should you be finding yourself on the same block as someone on foot, you hopped off the bike and walked it past them.
In seventh grade, at about that time that most kids' brains melt and run out of their ears, I was tooling back home from downtown, my faithful dog racing along beside me. Suddenly (see point about brain-melt mentioned above) I was overtaken by the question of what would happen if I was to violently turn my handlebars from side to side.
In a flash, the question was answered, and I wound up pretty much combined with my bike in the front yard of a house. As I lay there, cut and bruised, wondering why these things always seemed to happen to me for no reason, my faithful dog decided that the best course of action was to grab the leg of my jeans and attempt to extricate me from my predicament, growling violently all the while.
At this point, the elderly lady whose yard I was occupying came to the door, and in her feeble voice asked, "Are you all right?"
Thinking that the truth would do no one any good, I assured her that not only was I all right, but tried to do so in a manner that would convey the impression that this was something that I had planned out to the smallest detail long before the actual execution of the plan.
After separating myself from the bike, it was apparent that after it had carried me for most of the day, it was now my turn to carry it, so I limped off toward home with all of the dignity that I could muster - my bike under my arm and my faithful dog still attached to my pant leg, shaking her head from side to side and growling.
I once went azz over teakettle and landed in a fire ant hill. I was bloody and bruised, rolling around and whining like a girl when the little fuggers lit into me.
I wish someone had rolled video. I bet it woulda been uber!
Well my current car is a 1996 Subaru Outback 2.5L, I had it for 15 months now, been fixing things on it! It was all I could afford to buy! This winter its starts with out a hitch and its been sub zero a lot of late and the batt in it is a Wally World special that the sticker says is 5 years old, its been pretty good and it will be even better once I put a proper set of tires on it, Spring is coming and well I figure If I can get another year out of it I will be ok with it, I would never buy a new one, I like not having car payments, have not had one for 21 years now! Its got enough ground clearance to pretty much drive in on my properly and just load the deer I shoot! That in itself makes it an alright car!
Nice! I got less than 2k in mine. Hell, I've only had it 6 months or so and I figure with the gas I've saved over the F250, it's already paid for itself.
Antlers I have a direct question for you since you are such a proponent of bikes on the road. How come when available bike riders don't ride on the side walk?
People who put lots of miles on a road bike aren't tootlin' around the neighborhood like a lot of us did when we rode bicycles as a kid. We have specialized bikes that are made specifically for riding on the road, not sidewalks. The smoother the pavement, the better. We go long distances, even up to and over 100 miles during the course of one ride. And we often go as fast as our conditioning and the environment (hills, wind, heat or cold, pavement condition, traffic, etc.) will allow us to. Averaging 20 mph or more, and going well above that sometimes. Riding on the sidewalk is not conducive to any of that. And again, good road bikes aren't made for sidewalks, they're made for the road. I can see how it would be hard to understand for folks who aren't cyclists...especially endurance cyclists...but for those folks here who do ride, and especially those who like to go long on the road, they can verify my answer to your question.
One poster mentioned earlier about a State law where he lived that required cars to give bicyclists on the road 3 feet of room when they pass em'. If they're not able to, then they just gotta wait till they can. Oklahoma has a similar law. Cyclists should get over to the right as much as they safely can, but unless it's illegal for them to ride on a particular stretch of road...they have as much right to be on it with their bicycles as you do with your car or truck.
If you dweebs would stay over on the god damn shoulder it wouldn't be such a problem.
But of course the shoulder is where it's roughest to ride so just ride out into into the ACTUAL lane where cars and semis travel 65-70mph....
Or when dweebs get real cocky and ride side by side on 'rural' highways. I popped over a hill in (remote)central MT about 80mph and here's two love birds riding side by side in matching spandex. Took up the ENTIRE lane.
Layed on the horn while swerving and thought WTF?!
I've hollered and told those staub swallowers to get a fu-kin room, they do not understand physics, gravity or momentum, I haul ninety four thousand five hundred pounds at times.
I'm really getting tired on NOT trying to run over and kill idiots in the road.
Antlers I have a direct question for you since you are such a proponent of bikes on the road. How come when available bike riders don't ride on the side walk?
People who put lots of miles on a road bike aren't tootlin' around the neighborhood like a lot of us did when we rode bicycles as a kid. We have specialized bikes that are made specifically for riding on the road, not sidewalks. The smoother the pavement, the better. We go long distances, even up to and over 100 miles during the course of one ride. And we often go as fast as our conditioning and the environment (hills, wind, heat or cold, pavement condition, traffic, etc.) will allow us to. Averaging 20 mph or more, and going well above that sometimes. Riding on the sidewalk is not conducive to any of that. And again, good road bikes aren't made for sidewalks, they're made for the road. I can see how it would be hard to understand for folks who aren't cyclists...especially endurance cyclists...but for those folks here who do ride, and especially those who like to go long on the road, they can verify my answer to your question.
One poster mentioned earlier about a State law where he lived that required cars to give bicyclists on the road 3 feet of room when they pass em'. If they're not able to, then they just gotta wait till they can. Oklahoma has a similar law. Cyclists should get over to the right as much as they safely can, but unless it's illegal for them to ride on a particular stretch of road...they have as much right to be on it with their bicycles as you do with your car or truck.
If you dweebs would stay over on the god damn shoulder it wouldn't be such a problem.
But of course the shoulder is where it's roughest to ride so just ride out into into the ACTUAL lane where cars and semis travel 65-70mph....
Or when dweebs get real cocky and ride side by side on 'rural' highways. I popped over a hill in (remote)central MT about 80mph and here's two love birds riding side by side in matching spandex. Took up the ENTIRE lane.
Layed on the horn while swerving and thought WTF?!
THIS and when in a lowboy with a D-7 on with 12' blade doesn't leave much room
There's often roofing nails and broken glass and other debris way over on the shoulder too that can cause flats on a bike. I don't ride in that stuff for the same reason that you wouldn't want to drive in it. And bicycle tires on a road bike puncture a lot easier than a car or truck tire does. If folks are riding side by side on a two lane road, they sure oughta get single file when a car or truck is coming...and if it's a busy two lane road, they shouldn't be riding side by side at all.
There's often roofing nails and broken glass and other debris way over on the shoulder too that can cause flats on a bike. I don't ride in that stuff for the same reason that you wouldn't want to drive in it. And bicycle tires on a road bike puncture a lot easier than a car or truck tire does. If folks are riding side by side on a two lane road, they sure oughta get single file when a car or truck is coming...and if it's a busy two lane road, they shouldn't be riding side by side at all.
Try riding AGINEST traffic and see if you move over if there is so much room
So Antlers If I read your answer right right the bottom line of your answer is you can't ride on the sidewalk because basically you go faster than the pedestrians and thus it wouldn't be safe and it also would require you to slow down until you could maneuver around them safely and you can't be bothered to have to do that.
I'll tell you a little secret when someone runs over you, you don't want me on the jury when you or your estate tries to sue him because if I am, I don't care if evidence shows there are 50 empty beer cans in the floor board and the guy has two heroine needles sticking out of his arm at the time of he hit you, he's going to walk.
There's often roofing nails and broken glass and other debris way over on the shoulder too that can cause flats on a bike. I don't ride in that stuff for the same reason that you wouldn't want to drive in it. And bicycle tires on a road bike puncture a lot easier than a car or truck tire does. If folks are riding side by side on a two lane road, they sure oughta get single file when a car or truck is coming...and if it's a busy two lane road, they shouldn't be riding side by side at all.
So Antlers If I read your answer right the bottom line of your answer is you can't ride on the sidewalk because basically you go faster than the pedestrians and thus it wouldn't be safe and it also would require you to slow down until you could maneuver around them safely and you can't be bothered to have to do that.
Nope. You didn't read it right at all. Not by a long shot.
I'll tell you a little secret when someone runs over you, you don't want me on the jury when you or your estate tries to sue him because if I am, I don't care if evidence shows there are 50 empty beer cans in the floor board and the guy has two heroine needles sticking out of his arm at the time of he hit you, he's going to walk.
Antlers I have a direct question for you since you are such a proponent of bikes on the road. How come when available bike riders don't ride on the side walk?
People who put lots of miles on a road bike aren't tootlin' around the neighborhood like a lot of us did when we rode bicycles as a kid. We have specialized bikes that are made specifically for riding on the road, not sidewalks. The smoother the pavement, the better. We go long distances, even up to and over 100 miles during the course of one ride. And we often go as fast as our conditioning and the environment (hills, wind, heat or cold, pavement condition, traffic, etc.) will allow us to. Averaging 20 mph or more, and going well above that sometimes. Riding on the sidewalk is not conducive to any of that. And again, good road bikes aren't made for sidewalks, they're made for the road. I can see how it would be hard to understand for folks who aren't cyclists...especially endurance cyclists...but for those folks here who do ride, and especially those who like to go long on the road, they can verify my answer to your question.
One poster mentioned earlier about a State law where he lived that required cars to give bicyclists on the road 3 feet of room when they pass em'. If they're not able to, then they just gotta wait till they can. Oklahoma has a similar law. Cyclists should get over to the right as much as they safely can, but unless it's illegal for them to ride on a particular stretch of road...they have as much right to be on it with their bicycles as you do with your car or truck.
If you dweebs would stay over on the god damn shoulder it wouldn't be such a problem.
But of course the shoulder is where it's roughest to ride so just ride out into into the ACTUAL lane where cars and semis travel 65-70mph....
Or when dweebs get real cocky and ride side by side on 'rural' highways. I popped over a hill in (remote)central MT about 80mph and here's two love birds riding side by side in matching spandex. Took up the ENTIRE lane.
Layed on the horn while swerving and thought WTF?!
lost count of how many of those types ive near taken out...they seem to think a pickup can stop in the same distance their bike can.....if your hidden by the landscape while riding down a lane and not on the shoulder on pavement marked 70mph you are riding on borrowed time...
i give as much space as possible on those doing their best to stay out of the way but some of them are doing their damndest to get themselves made into a hood ornament....
Damn Sammo and Rattler, I'd of thought the only bikes in your AO were piloted by pickeled injuns on the way to or from the package store!
hey some of us do leave the reservation on occasion.....lots of bikers on their way down Highway 2 on their way to Glacier aswell actually one of the worst places to run into these bastards is on the rez over by Brockton....the hills just east of town make it so you can pop up on a biker you had no chance of knowing was there....
OK, 9:30 pm on a cold and windy night and I just got home after ten miles on a bike, loaded down w/60 pounds of training weight. Through a lower income area of a big city, no helmet, no reflective gear, no lights on for most of it.
Basically, I dont really give a fugg what the rules are, on a bicycle my job is to get from point "A" to point "B" and not get run over.
My mindset is if I get hit its always my fault. Doesn't matter what the rules are, the rules ain't gonna save me from getting flattened. If I get hit its always my fault. This was the mindset that served me well on that 2,000 mile ride to New York State last summer.
Depending on what presents the lowest risk, I'll ride in the road, by the side of the road, with traffic, against traffic, or off of the pavement. Sidewalks are frequent too.
Some places I ride through after dark a helmet and bicycle gear would clearly spell "V I C T I M" so I prefer to go unseen.
As for trash in the gutter etc etc tire technology has increased by leaps and bounds. Expect to pay $50 - $70 per tire for the best ones. On that New York trip I ran Continental 700x35 Gatorskins and got exactly four flats in 2,000 miles.
Around here I run 26"x2.0" Schwalbe Plus Tours on my urban commuter 30-100 mile per week mt bike and cant recall the last time I had a flat.
The indispensable thing I gotta have is a good mirror or mirrors, I HAVE to be able to watch my six.
Works fer me, until such time as it doesn't I guess.
Birdy, ive got zero problem with those out enjoying the road and doing their thing AND hugging that damn shoulder....as i said if i got no on coming traffic ill often give them some extra room crowding the centerline so as not to blow them to bad as i cruise by at 75 plus....
its just the idiots that are way out in the lane in spots where i did not have a chance in hell of seeing them till im right there and ive got almost no time to decide to hit them the ditch or if i can take the other lane....at some point someone is gonna get killed and the idiot biker is gonna be low man on the totem pole in my decision making, especially if im not alone in the vehicle and taking the ditch means putting someone other than me at risk of rolling....
its just the idiots that are way out in the lane in spots where i did not have a chance in hell of seeing them till im right there and ive got almost no time to decide to hit them the ditch or if i can take the other lane....at some point someone is gonna get killed and the idiot biker is gonna be low man on the totem pole
Yep, and there's people that do that on purpose, to make a point. Near as I can tell they are all Liberals.
OK, 9:30 pm on a cold and windy night and I just got home after ten miles on a bike, loaded down w/60 pounds of training weight. Through a lower income area of a big city, no helmet, no reflective gear, no lights on for most of it.
Basically, I dont really give a fugg what the rules are, on a bicycle my job is to get from point "A" to point "B" and not get run over.
My mindset is if I get hit its always my fault. Doesn't matter what the rules are, the rules ain't gonna save me from getting flattened. If I get hit its always my fault. This was the mindset that served me well on that 2,000 mile ride to New York State last summer.
Depending on what presents the lowest risk, I'll ride in the road, by the side of the road, with traffic, against traffic, or off of the pavement. Sidewalks are frequent too.
Some places I ride through after dark a helmet and bicycle gear would clearly spell "V I C T I M" so I prefer to go unseen.
As for trash in the gutter etc etc tire technology has increased by leaps and bounds. Expect to pay $50 - $70 per tire for the best ones. On that New York trip I ran Continental 700x35 Gatorskins and got exactly four flats in 2,000 miles.
Around here I run 26"x2.0" Schwalbe Plus Tours on my urban commuter 30-100 mile per week mt bike and cant recall the last time I had a flat.
The indispensable thing I gotta have is a good mirror or mirrors, I HAVE to be able to watch my six.
Works fer me, until such time as it doesn't I guess.
Birdwatcher
Good post sir! Birdy is probably the only biker with some common sense in the state of TX
Not to scare the bike riders but here in North Dakota you can see for miles most of the time. People run into combines in the daytime and claim they didnt see them.These are 16 feet wide and 16 feet tall BRIGHT RED with flashers going. No way in hell i'm biking down a road. ED K
Used to run up on Amish Freightliners on Sunday morning when I was hauling gas and they were going to church. Several times we were both talking to Jesus.
Liberal bitch-mobiles. I would almost rather be seen driving a Chevy Avalanche, almost.
I'm sure they are great cars but way to [bleep]' gay. And yes, it is possible for a car to be gay.
Driving a Subaru ranks right up there with riding a peddle bike out on the highway. If the stupidity has to be explained well then you are literally a dumb son of a bitch!
can't wait to tell my ole amigo Oz, "you're gay"
he drives his late mom's Subaru to work
damn thing was a sharp lil car till he got a hold of it, now it's beat to hell
he's hard on gear and pards, I was young and pretty and now I look too much like that damned Subaru
I could be a lesbian I think, a rough lookin one at that
Any guy that nags guy they never met on the 'net about minutae from other threads probably suffers from low T.
Speakin' of funny schit from other threads, remember when you claimed hispanics in south Texas don't speak spanish? Goddamm, that was awesome. Even by Campfire standards.
Dave
PS- I know you work with mostly women, but men refer to it as "talking schit" or "smack" or "ribbing" or "giving a hard time."
Here's a little ditty that shows the mentality of some of the elitist snobs that like Subaru's. Seem's like ol Butt-u was watching the "They Lived" commercial.
I also think more of my dogs than have them be transported around in the bed of pickup, waiting to be rear ended or subjected to a flip over.
And there you go proving my point about the majority of Subaru drivers looking down their noses at others. If you think your dogs are any safer in the back of your station wagon than mine are in the box in the back of my truck you're delusional, and if you're implying that you "think more of your dogs" than I do mine you're just an ass-hole who 'coincidently' drives a Subaru.
I also think more of my dogs than have them be transported around in the bed of pickup, waiting to be rear ended or subjected to a flip over.
And there you go proving my point about the majority of Subaru drivers looking down their noses at others. If you think your dogs are any safer in the back of your station wagon than mine are in the box in the back of my truck you're delusional, and if you're implying that you "think more of your dogs" than I do mine you're just an ass-hole who 'coincidently' drives a Subaru.
I also think more of my dogs than have them be transported around in the bed of pickup, waiting to be rear ended or subjected to a flip over.
And there you go proving my point about the majority of Subaru drivers looking down their noses at others. If you think your dogs are any safer in the back of your station wagon than mine are in the box in the back of my truck you're delusional, and if you're implying that you "think more of your dogs" than I do mine you're just an ass-hole who 'coincidently' drives a Subaru.
Yea,,,, thanks Schrap.
Don't know why I can't get stuff to copy and paste since RB overhauled things recently.
Course there's lots of cyber stuff that out smarts me so that's not a shot at RB's hard work.
Speakin' of funny schit from other threads, remember when you claimed hispanics in south Texas don't speak spanish? Goddamm, that was awesome. Even by Campfire standards.
I said "most"; been here near thirty years on that side of town, married into a local family, in an area that's more'n 80% Hispanic.
Maybe one in five sorta fluent, maybe one in twenty speaks it like a native.
Now get that dick outta your mouth and get those kids to school Dammit!! They gonna miss home room!!
Once again why is it you think I drive a school bus ? Are you just fugget up in the head from singing "wheels on the bus go round and round" while drivin the lezbaru ?
Now get that dick outta your mouth and get those kids to school Dammit!! They gonna miss home room!!
Once again why is it you think I drive a school bus ? Are you just fugget up in the head from singing "wheels on the bus go round and round" while drivin the lezbaru ?
And seriously, the school bus driving is what you take umbrage with in that post?
Now get that dick outta your mouth and get those kids to school Dammit!! They gonna miss home room!!
Once again why is it you think I drive a school bus ? Are you just fugget up in the head from singing "wheels on the bus go round and round" while drivin the lezbaru ?
And seriously, the school bus driving is what you take umbrage with in that post?
That's what you kept saying yesterday, and I have no kids at home , all grown and gone
Thanks for asking,,,,, about the same. He ain't dead but every now and then he get's to wishing he was. IOW,,, he's up and down. Unfortunately this morning he's down.
Thanks for asking,,,,, about the same. He ain't dead but every now and then he get's to wishing he was. IOW,,, he's up and down. Unfortunately this morning he's down.
Yeah, it's a good tool. Right now I'm trying to research if there is a correlation with the size of meat curtains to lezbos OR ethnicity or both. I'm betting Nordic types have more meat curtain volume in order to keep their snatches warmer, which in turn attracts lezbos cause there's more down there. Make sense or does it relate to the size of truck boxes (to stay on topic)?
Thanks, OP gave the impression of a standard truck box, hence my question.
Yea,,, it wasn't really about the box or car anyway. Just another one of the resident self centered blowhard's who was upset that a Grouse was killed without him being the center of attention and felt some unexplainable need to prove how much more he thought of his dog than I do mine.
You know how it goes when you question a man's devotion to his hunting dogs. Sub titled; don't start chit and there won't be any.
wife has a forester, nra & buckmark sticker to ....IF YOU ARE DOGGING OUT THE SUBARU owners you better NOT have a pickup truck with out a 8' bed ....under 8' = GAY , hairy pogo stick chasing looser
Does my '93 Dodge diesel, bought new before every wannabe redneck had to have a truck, offset my '96 Subaru? The Subaru has a Romney/ Ryan sticker, replaced the McCain/Palin, on the back glass. Sure hope so, I do not want to replace hair pie with "balls across the nose". Nope won't do it, can't do it, help, Was always secure but this thread???? Just got back from 223AI I'm OK, no doubt now, that was scary. Hope the damn thing dies soon, maybe it wont pass inspection. If I put a Playboy under the seat will that help? No it will bring out the lesbo. Thats OK at least we will agree on something.
January 2007 stopped at a Gas Station on I-85 in SC with my 2003 Outback(car had zero bumper stickers,window stickers etc) 110 Qt Igloo cooler filled with Alabama Deer , camo clothing and 2 treestands crammed in the back. While I am filling the car some guy walks up and asks me why in the world would you want to vote for Obama. I told him to GFY. He backed off and went back to his car.
it was not long before that bastid was gone car I mean
This is one of the best commercials ever... I would never buy any Pepsi product... and I wouldn't be caught dead in a Subaru... Unless I died in my truck going through a Subaru.
This is one of the best commercials ever... I would never buy any Pepsi product... and I wouldn't be caught dead in a Subaru... Unless I died in my truck going through a Subaru.
Never seen that before , now that was some funny chit !!
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I shot with a fella who had a big Red Ford 250 4x4. Prettiest dang thing you ever wanted to see. He waxed it every week. No dirt on the carpeting. Never had anything in the bed. Not a scratch anywhere. He was so proud. Felt real manly too when he babied that thing, I'm sure. My Subarus saw more work and action than that babied "truck". He would never take it off of a paved road or put anything in it. I've hauled hay, composted manure, building supplies, crated pheasants for stocking etc etc etc in the back of my Subaru and gone off road in fields while goose hunting. It looks it too. ![[Linked Image]](http://s174.photobucket.com/user/LTROADGLIDE/media/lumber_809632c.jpg.html)
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