GARLAND, Texas (AP) — Two armed men who opened fire on a security officer outside of a provocative contest for cartoon depictions of the Prophet Muhammad have been killed, authorities in the Dallas suburb of Garland said Sunday night. The City of Garland said in a statement posted on its Facebook page Sunday night that two men drove up to the Curtis Culwell Center and began shooting at a security officer. Garland Police Department officers engaged the gunmen, who were both shot and killed, the statement said. The statement did not say whether the shooting was related to the event. The security officer’s injuries were not life-threatening, the city said. The gunmen’s vehicle may contain an “incendiary device,” according to the statement. A bomb squad was on the scene, and nearby businesses were evacuated. The New York-based American Freedom Defense Initiative had been hosting a contest at the center that would award $10,000 for the best cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad. Such drawings are deemed insulting to many followers of Islam and have sparked violence around the world. According to mainstream Islamic tradition, any physical depiction of the Prophet Muhammad – even a respectful one – is considered blasphemous. Earlier Sunday, about 75 attendees at the contest were escorted by authorities to another room in the conference center before they were taken to a school bus. Authorities said they would be taken to another location. Johnny Roby of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, was attending the conference. He told The Associated Press he was outside the building when he heard around about 20 shots that appeared to be coming from the direction of a passing car. Roby said he then heard two single shots. He said he heard officers yell that they had the car before he was sent inside the building. Pamela Geller, president of the AFDI, told the AP before Sunday’s event that she planned the contest to make a stand for free speech in response to outcries and violence over drawings of Muhammad. Though it remained unclear several hours after the shooting whether it was related to event, she said Sunday night that the shooting showed how “needed our event really was.” In January, 12 people were killed by gunmen in an attack against the Paris office of the satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo, which had lampooned Islam and other religions and used depictions of Muhammad. Geller’s group is known for mounting a campaign against the building of an Islamic center blocks from the World Trade Center site and for buying advertising space in cities across the U.S. criticizing Islam.
When one feels they must drive in and kill as an answer to their issue we have a problem
They really need to go somewhere where the law agrees with them
not here
We do have a problem, And baiting and provoking a confrontation hiding under the free speech blanket doesn't help things any. A security guard was close to losing his life that day, and for what? so some a$$holes can bash someones religion.
We do have a problem, And baiting and provoking a confrontation hiding under the free speech blanket doesn't help things any. A security guard was close to losing his life that day, and for what? so some a$$holes can bash someones religion.
True.
And we can stop bashing other peoples politics while were at it.
The problem is the bad guys will want to retaliate. There are elementary schools all across America that are now targets for these animals.
They fail to realize that freedom of speech is truly an American original concept that is the envy of the rest of the world.
This is what happens when we have a loose immigration policy. And, the republicans are just as guilty of that as are the democrats. With 50,000,000 illegals coming across the border in the last 10 years if 1/10 of 1% are hardcore muslims, that means 5000 hardcore muslims are in or very close to America.
My first thought when I heard the story was "baiting", since the event was well publicized, offered a large cash award, and news outlets said ISIS had been urging followers to attack it well in advance. Except for the rent-a-cop getting hurt, seems like it went pretty well.
This country keeps being so PC, and we're going to get backed into a corner, we won't get out of. I for one am glad they had the "baiting". It brought those bastids out, and maybe now the people and the dam*ed media will get their collective heads out of there azzes and realize that we have a very real issue with islamic terrorists and terrorist wannabes in this country. It was going to happen sooner or later, so bring on the baiting and shoot their azzes. Maybe their pelts will bring something on the market.....
The problem is the bad guys will want to retaliate. There are elementary schools all across America that are now targets for these animals.
They fail to realize that freedom of speech is truly an American original concept that is the envy of the rest of the world.
This is what happens when we have a loose immigration policy. And, the republicans are just as guilty of that as are the democrats. With 50,000,000 illegals coming across the border in the last 10 years if 1/10 of 1% are hardcore muslims, that means 5000 hardcore muslims are in or very close to America.
Does that give you a warm and fuzzy feeling??
kwg
I'm pretty sure they want to retaliate already, us being infidels and all.
Whats the ideal setup for killing terrorists over bait? I'm thinking a M4 with aimpoint would be a good parking lot rig out to about 250 meters. Did the cops at the incident in question have rifles or just sidearms?
I've been to that arena a dozen times for cheer competitions over the last two or three years.
I have only one problem with it, I wish Garland ISD would not have gotten the arena wrapped up in all this. They shouldn't have ever let the Muslims have the Stand With the Prophet Day there and then they shouldn't have had this there. I have no problem with the event this weekend itself. And I certainly have no problem with the goat frickers getting shot. But, given their well known propensity for going back to the scenes of prior defeats and trying to avenge them, I'm glad my girl has decided to move away from cheer and concentrate on dance.
There was a lot of security there this weekend, but I can assure you that when they have a cheer event there, the only security is about two regularly uniformed and armed cops who are mostly watching the metal detectors to make sure no CCW carrier makes it through the front door. And there are literally thousands of girls from about four years old to eighteen years old and their moms and families running around the place. It would be an absolute turkey shoot.
So, unless the city of Garland and Garland ISD plans on having extreme security at every event they have there from here on out, then they just put a huge targets on their backs.
I've been to that arena a dozen times for cheer competitions over the last two or three years.
I have only one problem with it, I wish Garland ISD would not have gotten the arena wrapped up in all this. They shouldn't have ever let the Muslims have the Stand With the Prophet Day there and then they shouldn't have had this there. I have no problem with the event this weekend itself. And I certainly have no problem with the goat frickers getting shot. But, given their well known propensity for going back to the scenes of prior defeats and trying to avenge them, I'm glad my girl has decided to move away from cheer and concentrate on dance.
There was a lot of security there this weekend, but I can assure you that when they have a cheer event there, the only security is about two regularly uniformed and armed cops who are mostly watching the metal detectors to make sure no CCW carrier makes it through the front door. And there are literally thousands of girls from about four years old to eighteen years old and their moms and families running around the place. It would be an absolute turkey shoot.
So, unless the city of Garland and Garland ISD plans on having extreme security at every event they have there from here on out, then they just put a huge targets on their backs.
We could all convert to Islam and all the bad guys would turn into good guys.
The problem is the bad guys will want to retaliate. There are elementary schools all across America that are now targets for these animals.
They fail to realize that freedom of speech is truly an American original concept that is the envy of the rest of the world.
This is what happens when we have a loose immigration policy. And, the republicans are just as guilty of that as are the democrats. With 50,000,000 illegals coming across the border in the last 10 years if 1/10 of 1% are hardcore muslims, that means 5000 hardcore muslims are in or very close to America.
Does that give you a warm and fuzzy feeling??
kwg
Not arguing anything but your arithmetic. 1/10 of 1% of fifty million (50,000,000) is fifty THOUSAND (50,000)
I've been to that arena a dozen times for cheer competitions over the last two or three years.
I have only one problem with it, I wish Garland ISD would not have gotten the arena wrapped up in all this. They shouldn't have ever let the Muslims have the Stand With the Prophet Day there and then they shouldn't have had this there. I have no problem with the event this weekend itself. And I certainly have no problem with the goat frickers getting shot. But, given their well known propensity for going back to the scenes of prior defeats and trying to avenge them, I'm glad my girl has decided to move away from cheer and concentrate on dance.
There was a lot of security there this weekend, but I can assure you that when they have a cheer event there, the only security is about two regularly uniformed and armed cops who are mostly watching the metal detectors to make sure no CCW carrier makes it through the front door. And there are literally thousands of girls from about four years old to eighteen years old and their moms and families running around the place. It would be an absolute turkey shoot.
So, unless the city of Garland and Garland ISD plans on having extreme security at every event they have there from here on out, then they just put a huge targets on their backs.
We could all convert to Islam and all the bad guys would turn into good guys.
About as much chance of that happening as there is of you responding intelligently to a real concern. I understand the threat. I just would rather not have my schools putting themselves on the frontline if they have a choice about it.
EVERYBODY, especially you southern guys should know that the real turnig point in the Civil War was when Gen. Grant after listening to his Generals and other officers stressing out over what Gen. R.E.Lee was going to do told them "Gentlemen, it is time to STOP worrying about what General Lee is going to do to you and start thinking of what YOU are going to do TO HIM!" Well, fuggg this pc crap. STOP worrying about what the muzzie scum are going to do to us, think of what we are going to do TO THEM. Texas Men got it right. That event was just the excuse of convenience for the ISIS scum this time. Sounding like a bunch of little battered bitches...ohhhyhhy DON'T do that!!! You'll make hhim mad and hit you again. Like they need an excuse to be scum. Grow some balls.
We have animals south of the border that cut off so many heads they make ISIS look like JV. Safe bet to say they are mostly catholic. Lets have a contest bastardizing the lord Jesus Christ. Maybe some people get off on this kind of stuff, I don't. Clowns want to poke a pit bull with a stick and wonder why they get bit.
Looks like a few appeasers on this thread. I'm sure they will be standing tall when the time comes, NOT
If the reports are true and you have essentially a non citizen on this soil, armed, and shooting at people for WHATEVER reason, I don't understand how people are going to make any [bleep] concession at all with regards to the reasoning.
Geez, you freaking global, hand holding, free willy singers.
We have animals south of the border that cut off so many heads they make ISIS look like JV. Safe bet to say they are mostly catholic. Lets have a contest bastardizing the lord Jesus Christ. Maybe some people get off on this kind of stuff, I don't. Clowns want to poke a pit bull with a stick and wonder why they get bit.
Agreed. Which is why there shouldn't even be a hunting forum, it only gets the anti-hunters upset, no sense in poking them.
Lets make sure we don't do anything to get the anti-gun folks any fodder either, else someone will want to take away the 2nd.
We have animals south of the border that cut off so many heads they make ISIS look like JV. Safe bet to say they are mostly catholic. Lets have a contest bastardizing the lord Jesus Christ. Maybe some people get off on this kind of stuff, I don't. Clowns want to poke a pit bull with a stick and wonder why they get bit.
Well said PATØBAMA85.
You have been keeping up on the ISIS posse doing overseas, haven't you?
EVERYBODY, especially you southern guys should know that the real turnig point in the Civil War was when Gen. Grant after listening to his Generals and other officers stressing out over what Gen. R.E.Lee was going to do told them "Gentlemen, it is time to STOP worrying about what General Lee is going to do to you and start thinking of what YOU are going to do TO HIM!" Well, fuggg this pc crap. STOP worrying about what the muzzie scum are going to do to us, think of what we are going to do TO THEM. Texas Men got it right. That event was just the excuse of convenience for the ISIS scum this time. Sounding like a bunch of little battered bitches...ohhhyhhy DON'T do that!!! You'll make hhim mad and hit you again. Like they need an excuse to be scum. Grow some balls.
Pretty much sums it up...........sooner or later, boys & girls.
We have animals south of the border that cut off so many heads they make ISIS look like JV. Safe bet to say they are mostly catholic. Lets have a contest bastardizing the lord Jesus Christ. Maybe some people get off on this kind of stuff, I don't. Clowns want to poke a pit bull with a stick and wonder why they get bit.
Agreed. Which is why there shouldn't even be a hunting forum, it only gets the anti-hunters upset, no sense in poking them.
Lets make sure we don't do anything to get the anti-gun folks any fodder either, else someone will want to take away the 2nd.
Poor guy
He will concede all his liberties away in the interest of being a good guy
The cartels don't behead for religion just money
But
Why take any chances
Legalize drugs or whatever it takes to make them happy
If we make everyone happy then we will all have no fear.... right
Damn fool stunt by some right wing tea partiest conservatives, and anyone that thinks this shooting was done by anything other than a couple wannabe's is fooling themselves. Maybe if a real attack is carried out and a few wife's, son's, or daughter's are lost you'll know the difference.
Texas, yup... wouldn't be a damn bit surprised if Cruz wasn't part of it either.
Im pretty sure the Garland Public Range will be crowded for a while.Locals feel free to come over to Gibsons Outpost & Shooting Range.We will find room.
You can really tell where people are at by looking at this posts. I'm glad the thread was started. It was "baiting" i wonder if they used a call. And screw the muzzies, they are not tolerant of christianity, look what they do to christians, and they picked the wrong place in the wrong state to make a statement. God Bless TEXAS.
Amazing to see who is willing to trade freedom for security.
Fear and cowardice doesn't make one feel real secure either, after all the freedoms are gone, do you really have the "security"?
What freedom? I've been to a dozen events at that arena and every single time I've had to go through a metal detector like a criminal and my wife gets her purse checked. I'm completely denied the right and ability to protect myself against threats within the arena or on the way to my car, yet the same people in charge of that policy denying me my rights put a target on the backs of everyone attending an event at that arena from now on.
If you were familiar with the area, you would realize just how lucky we were that these two idiots drove right up to the cops. There are fairly dense woods right behind it and half a dozen places they could have gotten the drop on those cops, or simply waited in hiding until people started coming out of the building.
What makes you think LEO"s were not watching those woods.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Amazing to see who is willing to trade freedom for security.
Fear and cowardice doesn't make one feel real secure either, after all the freedoms are gone, do you really have the "security"?
What freedom? I've been to a dozen events at that arena and every single time I've had to go through a metal detector like a criminal and my wife gets her purse checked. I'm completely denied the right and ability to protect myself against threats within the arena or on the way to my car, yet the same people in charge of that policy denying me my rights put a target on the backs of everyone attending an event at that arena from now on.
If you were familiar with the area, you would realize just how lucky we were that these two idiots drove right up to the cops. There are fairly dense woods right behind it and half a dozen places they could have gotten the drop on those cops, or simply waited in hiding until people started coming out of the building.
It was just a damn stupid stunt that put the public unknowingly in danger!
and maybe not, if they were attending the damn thing. They are part of the problem.
Phil
So, as soon as they have everyone on board with this muhammad restriction, maybe they will start getting mad about nudity on TV, alcohol, maybe even marketing pork products.
NEWSFLASH!!!! The car bomb you refer to can be and will be done atjust about ANY major gathering. A pro football stadium lot comes to mind. This was merely an excuse of convenience. ANY large gathering is a lure for them. Fugg the pc crap. Profile muslims and kill where and when appropriate.
Isn't it funny(funny peculiar,not funny Ha Ha) that some of those who advocate full and maybe armed resistance to the government candy ass out at the prospect of armed confrontation with neolithic muzzy scum???
Oh yes, by all means ratchet up the tension so that next time Jihadi gets smart and simply kills everyone as they walk to the hotel across the street while defenseless because they have attended an event on school property and were denied the opportunity to defend themselves.
If we are going to bleat about freedom on this board, why don't we focus our efforts on the true culprits who deny it to us?
The jerks sponsoring such an event should have been the ones shot.
Really?
How very sad
The group who sponsored this is based out of New York. Why not do it up there? Maybe they were looking for the best and brightest artists there.
Congratulations to the Texas law enforcement heroes who took out the muzzie filth. I think all of these events should be held in Texas. Clearly, Texas law enforcement knows how to hit what their aiming at, NY Police, not so much.
The jerks sponsoring such an event should have been the ones shot.
Really?
How very sad
The group who sponsored this is based out of New York. Why not do it up there? Maybe they were looking for the best and brightest artists there.
Congratulations to the Texas law enforcement heroes who took out the muzzie filth. I think all of these events should be held in Texas. Clearly, Texas law enforcement knows how to hit what their aiming at, NY Police, not so much.
Oh yes, by all means ratchet up the tension so that next time Jihadi gets smart and simply kills everyone as they walk to the hotel across the street while defenseless because they have attended an event on school property and were denied the opportunity to defend themselves.
If we are going to bleat about freedom on this board, why don't we focus our efforts on the true culprits who deny it to us?
So you, GG, and some others feel like radical Muslim terrorists require provocation before they commit acts of terrorism against the U.S.?
By all means, lets all walk on eggshells for the rest of our lives.
The problem is the bad guys will want to retaliate. There are elementary schools all across America that are now targets for these animals.
They fail to realize that freedom of speech is truly an American original concept that is the envy of the rest of the world.
This is what happens when we have a loose immigration policy. And, the republicans are just as guilty of that as are the democrats. With 50,000,000 illegals coming across the border in the last 10 years if 1/10 of 1% are hardcore muslims, that means 5000 hardcore muslims are in or very close to America.
Does that give you a warm and fuzzy feeling??
kwg
So should we trash our First A or protect our schools?
The problem is the bad guys will want to retaliate. There are elementary schools all across America that are now targets for these animals.
They fail to realize that freedom of speech is truly an American original concept that is the envy of the rest of the world.
This is what happens when we have a loose immigration policy. And, the republicans are just as guilty of that as are the democrats. With 50,000,000 illegals coming across the border in the last 10 years if 1/10 of 1% are hardcore muslims, that means 5000 hardcore muslims are in or very close to America.
Does that give you a warm and fuzzy feeling??
kwg
I'm pretty sure they want to retaliate already, us being infidels and all.
Rong. They will spare us if we become dimocraps and kiss their azz.
We do have a problem, And baiting and provoking a confrontation hiding under the free speech blanket doesn't help things any.
Yet there was no outcry when the American flag was defecated on (except for a very few) or a picture of Jesus was urinated on. Seems as if the only outcry is when there is a muslim involved. Makes me think that peoples definition of freedom of speech is very selective. Either we have it or we don't. miles
We do have a problem, And baiting and provoking a confrontation hiding under the free speech blanket doesn't help things any.
Yet there was no outcry when the American flag was defecated on (except for a very few) or a picture of Jesus was urinated on. Seems as if the only outcry is when there is a muslim involved. Makes me think that peoples definition of freedom of speech is very selective. Either we have it or we don't. miles
Amazing how libs and dimocraps spring to the defense of commies and other scum, rather that the defensless unborn.
JoeBob,you are not from here are you.I bet you would fit in better some place like California.
Really? I would be happier if every man went around with two Navy Colts stuck in his belt.
But we can't do that. The same people who sanctioned this event would have had those same police officers shoot you if you had attended and tried to carry to protect yourself.
I merely advocate consistency. If you are going to put a target on my back, don't try to limit my right to shoot back.
This is consistent for Texas.If I cant carry in there I can count on LEO's till I leave.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by jdm953
JoeBob,you are not from here are you.I bet you would fit in better some place like California.
Really? I would be happier if every man went around with two Navy Colts stuck in his belt.
But we can't do that. The same people who sanctioned this event would have had those same police officers shoot you if you had attended and tried to carry to protect yourself.
I merely advocate consistency. If you are going to put a target on my back, don't try to limit my right to shoot back.
This is consistent for Texas. If I cant carry in there I can count on LEO's till I leave.
My God, man! Did you leave your balls at the state line? You can NEVER depend on law enforcement to protect you. Those jihadis were stupid. They weren't from there.
There are a million ways they could have killed you walking back to your car and there wouldn't have been one damned thing law enforcement could have done about it.
Anyone that depends on someone else to protect him and his family has completely given up his freedom for servitude.
Damn fool stunt by some right wing tea partiest conservatives, and anyone that thinks this shooting was done by anything other than a couple wannabe's is fooling themselves. Maybe if a real attack is carried out and a few wife's, son's, or daughter's are lost you'll know the difference.
Texas, yup... wouldn't be a damn bit surprised if Cruz wasn't part of it either.
Just a stunt on both sides.
Phil
I think martians were behind it, well, that and dimocraps supporting illegal immigration. This will get worse because .gov wants it to, especilly the libs in govt who think like you. Then, we will want them to save us from terrorists AND climate change AND CO2 and methane.
Don't look now but they could be sneaking up on you at this moment.
If one is not prepared to defend oneself there should be back up.
After this didn't happen in new york of some other bastion of liberal type feelings.
If you are worried or afraid of these type of events don't go.
So it is okay to deny people the right to defend themselves against these sorts of attacks while courting them at the same time? That is really your position?
You must have missed the point of there being back up there.
For the last 20 or so years me and the wife have lived with the possibility that someone of this persuasion could/would try to do us harm,not because of something that we did but because of my Son's type of work.
I/we still do the same types of things we have always have done and have not lost a nights sleep.
I guess some need to worry about things they have no control over. Do you ever go anywhere without having to take a case of rolaids.
You must have missed the point of there being back up there.
For the last 20 or so years me and the wife have lived with the possibility that someone of this persuasion could/would try to do us harm,not because of something that we did but because of my Son's type of work.
I/we still do the same types of things we have always have done and have not lost a nights sleep.
I guess some need to worry about things they have no control over. Do you ever go anywhere without having to take a case of rolaids.
Worry away.
No, I'm not worried about much. I'm just getting you to admit that you are comfortable giving up freedom for security, or even imagined security.
Damn fool stunt by some right wing tea partiest conservatives, and anyone that thinks this shooting was done by anything other than a couple wannabe's is fooling themselves. Maybe if a real attack is carried out and a few wife's, son's, or daughter's are lost you'll know the difference.
Texas, yup... wouldn't be a damn bit surprised if Cruz wasn't part of it either.
Just a stunt on both sides.
Phil
Originally Posted by Pat85
The jerks sponsoring such an event should have been the ones shot.
Unbelievable...
What or Whom would folks like this be willing to give up to stay "safe".?
These guys were so stupid it really makes you wonder what they were thinking.
Just two fire teams, of eight to ten people could have had a completely different outcome. One team to lay down suppressive fire and one to maneuver. With no more than a Google Earth recon they could have come up with something much better than what they did in ten minutes planning.
The only thing the organizers should do differently next time is not hold these events in gun free zones. It was a school district building, I believe, which would make it a no carry zone for attendees. Anyone know for sure?
Bait is legal in Texas. This was a good example why. To the slack jawed pricks who blame anyone but the jihadi goatfuckers, GFY with a cactus.
CNN is reporting that these two were apparently so stupid and amateurish that the two of them with AKM type rifles got deaded by one patrolman with nothing more than his issue pistol.
Damn fool stunt by some right wing tea partiest conservatives, and anyone that thinks this shooting was done by anything other than a couple wannabe's is fooling themselves. Maybe if a real attack is carried out and a few wife's, son's, or daughter's are lost you'll know the difference.
Texas, yup... wouldn't be a damn bit surprised if Cruz wasn't part of it either.
The only advantage people like them have is if no one knows they are coming.For them to go where they are expected is really foolish.They never had a chance.They committed suicide.
CNN is reporting that these two were apparently so stupid and amateurish that the two of them with AKM type rifles got deaded by one patrolman with nothing more than his issue pistol.
I know I would not want go against my little boy with his service gun
CNN is reporting that these two were apparently so stupid and amateurish that the two of them with AKM type rifles got deaded by one patrolman with nothing more than his issue pistol.
I know I would not want go against my little boy with his service gun
No matter what I had
I would take that bet every single day and twice on Sunday's against anyone not named Miculek if you gave me fifty yards or more.
Well JB I'm going to suggest you move from DFW area to get the stress off. Second I'm going to recommend that you reread your CHL book. Lots of places no carry applies. I'm guessing you carry at the PO, hospitals and bars etc.
Give Austin time, we may luck into OC soon. Then you can wear your 6 shooters.
Well JB I'm going to suggest you move from DFW area to get the stress off. Second I'm going to recommend that you reread your CHL book. Lots of places no carry applies. I'm guessing you carry at the PO, hospitals and bars etc.
Give Austin time, we may luck into OC soon. Then you can wear your 6 shooters.
I don't live in DFW. No stress for me. I make my own decisions. I'm just pointing out all the people bleating about freedom and then thanking those who deny it of us for protecting us.
Kind of crazy if you ask me. I demand the right to draw a picture of Mohammed fricking a goat. Oh, excuse me, will you now protect me from irate Muslims because you won't allow me to protect myself?
Oh I'll let you protect yourself, but you need to start now down in Austin then on to DC. The gun laws have been in force for a long time, Federal and State Laws. Get busy now.
Quite a few cunnies on this thread. These ass holes want us all dead and dedicate their life to trying to achieve that goal and people act like not drawing a picture is going to change something.
Damn fool stunt by some right wing tea partiest conservatives, and anyone that thinks this shooting was done by anything other than a couple wannabe's is fooling themselves. Maybe if a real attack is carried out and a few wife's, son's, or daughter's are lost you'll know the difference.
Texas, yup... wouldn't be a damn bit surprised if Cruz wasn't part of it either.
Just a stunt on both sides.
Phil
Originally Posted by Pat85
The jerks sponsoring such an event should have been the ones shot.
Unbelievable...
What or Whom would folks like this be willing to give up to stay "safe".?
The closet blue lever pullers sure out themselves quick these days, to easy to be fun anymore.
The jerks sponsoring such an event should have been the ones shot.
So, what would you say had they gathered to crucify Jesus?
The same thing. Like that Sinfeld skit when that jerk was pissing on the picture of Jesus, what is the point other then to offend christians then hide behind free speech. Those people on that side of the world are nuts, don't walk into a hornets nest and poke it and cry that they should be all wiped out when you get stung. You would think rational people would be above this stuff.
The above is worth bookmarking.... perhaps some to the dhimmis posting here will read the Islam 101 link at the top of the Jihad Watch home page... my guess is that they will not though...
Damn fool stunt by some right wing tea partiest conservatives, and anyone that thinks this shooting was done by anything other than a couple wannabe's is fooling themselves. Maybe if a real attack is carried out and a few wife's, son's, or daughter's are lost you'll know the difference.
Texas, yup... wouldn't be a damn bit surprised if Cruz wasn't part of it either.
Just a stunt on both sides.
Phil
Originally Posted by Pat85
The jerks sponsoring such an event should have been the ones shot.
Unbelievable...
What or Whom would folks like this be willing to give up to stay "safe".?
The closet blue lever pullers sure out themselves quick these days, to easy to be fun anymore.
Pulled the red lever since I was 18, and not going to loose any sleep if this war is fought hot and heavy on our turf. You want to prod at an unstable group of people then be prepared to deal with the consequences. And the organizers in New York choose a place far enough away from where they live to do the prodding.
Didn't read through all the posts but did anyone catch the fact that the guy who won the contest is a FORMER muslim?
Originally Posted by Pat85
We have animals south of the border that cut off so many heads they make ISIS look like JV. Safe bet to say they are mostly catholic. Lets have a contest bastardizing the lord Jesus Christ. Maybe some people get off on this kind of stuff, I don't. Clowns want to poke a pit bull with a stick and wonder why they get bit.
SO much bs in this post but we will start with this one. They did and called it art. Jesus depicted in a jar of urine. Christians didn't run out and jihad when it happened. They voiced their opposition but didn't cut off any heads.
Originally Posted by Greyghost
Damn fool stunt by some right wing tea partiest conservatives, and anyone that thinks this shooting was done by anything other than a couple wannabe's is fooling themselves. Maybe if a real attack is carried out and a few wife's, son's, or daughter's are lost you'll know the difference.
Texas, yup... wouldn't be a damn bit surprised if Cruz wasn't part of it either.
Just a stunt on both sides.
Phil
Phil your stupidity knows no bounds. Every time you post you prove it. You will always be part of the problem and never part of the solution.
You want to prod at an unstable group of people then be prepared to deal with the consequences.
Because if they're not "prodded" they remain stable, right.?
What you going to do when they're offended by the local 4th of July BBQ, prayer and the national anthem before sporting events, the Christmas holiday,etc..?
I guess we'll just have to give up our way of life so the Muslim horde isn't offended..
The cops I saw in the news photos this morning were in full battle-rattle, one armed up with what looked like a suppressed AR..... maybe it was baiting....
The cops I saw in the news photos this morning were in full battle-rattle, one armed up with what looked like a suppressed AR..... maybe it was baiting....
Shhh...we're getting set back up to see if some more come in.
Congratulations to the Garland PD, their firearms training obviously paid off for this one particular officer who took down the two amateur jihadis armed with rifles.
Gotta love a good story with a happy ending.
As for the whiny crybaby types who decry the use of the First Amendment, GFY.
I just wish all the Christians would stop going crazy every time their buddy next to them on the job site blasphemes the name of Jesus when he hits his thumb with a hammer!
Why do people have to poke the hornet's nest all the time?
Can't people be a little more considerate about this free speech stuff?!?
Obviously, a deal like this could have gone either way and worked out for the better. My main reason for posting it was to point out how things are handled differently in red and blue States. The mayor of Baltimore says "let'em loot...it's just property" and the mayor of Garland says "Sure you can have freedom of speech contest...we'll put SWAT on the roof.".
Obviously, a deal like this could have gone either way and worked out for the better. My main reason for posting it was to point out how things are handled differently in red and blue States. The mayor of Baltimore says "let'em loot...it's just property" and the mayor of Garland says "Sure you can have freedom of speech contest...we'll put SWAT on the roof.".
And then the organizers of said 'demonstration' pay for all the additional police officers and overtime required for the event.
You ain't lyin'. I don't know the details, but incapacitating two guys with AK's and body armor with two shots from a handgun is some Dirty Harry s#it.
I was talking to the missus about this this morning. North phoenix, okay i am in north phoenix, and one of these clowns was out on probation, did he shop at walmart too? Did we see him on the street? Oh, muslim influence in the area? Oh wait, where did the 9/11 people stay at one time, north phoenix. But there is not a chance that issus could be across the border in mexico, and muslims are just peace loving citizens, my butt. They had to be pretty stupid, to advertise intentions on twitter, and pick a place like texas. God Bless TEXAS
You ain't lyin'. I don't know the details, but incapacitating two guys with AK's and body armor with two shots from a handgun is some Dirty Harry s#it.
No kidding. I'm betting he doesn't have to buy a Natty Daddy for the rest of his life.
Things have changed a lot.Garland was a little blue collar town not far from Dallas.Resitol hats and Marmon trucks were from Garland.Dallas grew and now touches Garland.They had to keep up with the times.They are doing the best they can.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by ltppowell
and the mayor of Garland says "Sure you can have freedom of speech contest...we'll put SWAT on the roof.".
Rumor is, that for it's size, Garland has a pretty good SWAT team.
Contrary to what some people would like us to think...they are ALL stupid and/or batshit crazy. The guys telling them what to do are sitting around the cave drinking martinis and smoking dick.
Things have changed a lot.Garland was a little blue collar town not far from Dallas.Resitol hats and Marmon trucks were from Garland.Dallas grew and now touches Garland.They had to keep up with the times.They are doing the best they can.
Do they still have Bluegrass music on Saturday nights downtown on the corner of 6th and Main?
You ain't lyin'. I don't know the details, but incapacitating two guys with AK's and body armor with two shots from a handgun is some Dirty Harry s#it.
That's what happens when you SWAT team shoots 3-gun and IDPA.
Seems pretty simple, since you can't appease the savage SOB's, the best approach is to bait them into the open and shoot them down like the dogs they are.
Some can't grasp this simple fact, but it is what it is and must be dealt with thusly.
1) Aimed and controlled fire vs spray and pray wins the day (or maybe it was just who they were praying to?)
2) Does anyone think these two would have lived peacefully and not acted out in some manner at some point? Better they faced armed and ready security forces than unprepared (and unarmed) targets of their choosing?
3) FBI really does seem to mean Famous But Incompetent.
Take aways: 3. joe bob's point that this was a gun free zone that is strictly enforced requiring that others protect he and his family.UNPHUCKINGACCEPTABLE!
Great job by the P.O. but I think we are too accepting of the restrictions imposed on decent people and ignored by the scum. Sometimes we try to solve the wrong problem.
Damn fool stunt by some right wing tea partiest conservatives, and anyone that thinks this shooting was done by anything other than a couple wannabe's is fooling themselves. Maybe if a real attack is carried out and a few wife's, son's, or daughter's are lost you'll know the difference.
Texas, yup... wouldn't be a damn bit surprised if Cruz wasn't part of it either.
Just a stunt on both sides.
Phil
You really are a coward. You think that we should bow down and kiss the asssss of these terrorist Muslims. A better solution would be resurrect the militia and have most Americans carry concealed weapons to deal with these evil people. OH, and hunt down and kill the terrorist Muslims where ever they are.
You are taking after your Dear Leader. Tyrant Obama the Liar who is enabling Iranian nuclear weapons to put on their ICBMs so they can use them against us and Israel.
The problem is the bad guys will want to retaliate. There are elementary schools all across America that are now targets for these animals.
They fail to realize that freedom of speech is truly an American original concept that is the envy of the rest of the world.
This is what happens when we have a loose immigration policy. And, the republicans are just as guilty of that as are the democrats. With 50,000,000 illegals coming across the border in the last 10 years if 1/10 of 1% are hardcore muslims, that means 5000 hardcore muslims are in or very close to America.
We do have a problem, And baiting and provoking a confrontation hiding under the free speech blanket doesn't help things any. A security guard was close to losing his life that day, and for what? so some a$$holes can bash someones religion.
Whether or not that gathering was "baiting", and whether or not baiting "helps" are open to disucssion - nothing certain there. But, it IS for certain that the security guard was NOT shot just because the meeting happened. He was shot because two radical Muslims chose to shoot him. That seems not very difficult to fathom.
When will the people in the USA understand that islam does not include free speech. The koran does not include free speech. They can not live by out rules they need to go home. Leave the country. Shire law does not include free speech. Come on USA wake up the country is being lost to these kinds of immigrants. They do not believe in our way of life and they will not tolerate it when they move into our country.
We have animals south of the border that cut off so many heads they make ISIS look like JV. Safe bet to say they are mostly catholic. Lets have a contest bastardizing the lord Jesus Christ. Maybe some people get off on this kind of stuff, I don't. Clowns want to poke a pit bull with a stick and wonder why they get bit.
They already did that. When they did the piss Virgin Mary and the poop Jesus, some Christians got mad, but they didn't go try to kill people.
As for your pitt bull worries, some of us have gone over to the pit bull's sandbox and helped some of 'em become dirt. Not everybody is a pussy like you.
Pulled the red lever since I was 18, and not going to loose any sleep if this war is fought hot and heavy on our turf. You want to prod at an unstable group of people then be prepared to deal with the consequences. And the organizers in New York choose a place far enough away from where they live to do the prodding.
You don't get it, do you? You offend the by just existing. The fact that you are alive is enough for those goat-fugging savages to want you dead.
Not everyone is willing to live on their knees like you. And they will just cut your fool head off while you are down there on them anyhow......