Data recovery is pretty amazing - I had clearance to see most everything on that server that's been mentioned.
I just don't think she'd sit on anything super incriminating this long - knowing the eventual end game.
1. Does a Fed judge have the authority to order the recovery of data? How and with whom?
2. Does the Fed judge have the security clearance necessary to read the emails? TS/SCI - not likely
3. What's to prevent some 3 letter agency wonk from finding his own federal judge to shut this whole thing down - in the name of "National Security" due to unsecured classified info and nothing happens to Hillary?
Data recovery is pretty amazing - I had clearance to see most everything on that server that's been mentioned.
I just don't think she'd sit on anything super incriminating this long - knowing the eventual end game.
1. Does a Fed judge have the authority to order the recovery of data? How and with whom?
2. Does the Fed judge have the security clearance necessary to read the emails? TS/SCI - not likely
3. What's to prevent some 3 letter agency wonk from finding his own federal judge to shut this whole thing down - in the name of "National Security" due to unsecured classified info and nothing happens to Hillary?
1. Yes.
2. Perhaps, and under the scope of investigation, likely.
3. Nope. The jurisdiction lies with this court as the server and the rest were within his jurisdiction and the agencies can travel just as easily there as anywhere else.
This is the same judge that bitch slapped NSA for the metadata collection, and the same one that did likewise to the W administration over indefinite detentions at GITMO without charge or trial. He's known to be "abrupt".
Data recovery is pretty amazing - I had clearance to see most everything on that server that's been mentioned.
I just don't think she'd sit on anything super incriminating this long - knowing the eventual end game.
1. Does a Fed judge have the authority to order the recovery of data? How and with whom?
2. Does the Fed judge have the security clearance necessary to read the emails? TS/SCI - not likely
3. What's to prevent some 3 letter agency wonk from finding his own federal judge to shut this whole thing down - in the name of "National Security" due to unsecured classified info and nothing happens to Hillary?
1. Yes.
2. Perhaps, and under the scope of investigation, likely.
3. Nope. The jurisdiction lies with this court as the server and the rest were within his jurisdiction and the agencies can travel just as easily there as anywhere else.
This is the same judge that bitch slapped NSA for the metadata collection, and the same one that did likewise to the W administration over indefinite detentions at GITMO without charge or trial. He's known to be "abrupt".
We may also want to consider the very distinct possibility that she has enough on those servers and e-mails still remaining to bring down Hussein Obama, too. Think about it; they have hated each other since Day One. She had to know that if Hussein had a chance to throw her under the bus, he'd take it. She's not stupid, and she's incredibly vengeful. Essentially, a "you may have gotten me, but I'm taking you and all yours down with me" play.
Now, consider that delicious possibility whilst everyone is throwing in the towel...
- recreate actual classified information, then claim to have found it on the server. Even though the info was properly and permanently destroyed by Hit, she can't deny their existence.
- create edited versions of "classified" information, which will authenticate to Hit's server, even though it never existed there. Hit can rightfully deny that she possessed this information, but any expert will authenticate it.
SO, if Obysmal wants to, he can toast Hit. Remember, the Dem/Socialistas are fighting over control of their party, just like the Rinos are tryin to hold onto theirs. With Hit out, Obysmal can control the D party.
We may also want to consider the very distinct possibility that she has enough on those servers and e-mails still remaining to bring down Hussein Obama, too. Think about it; they have hated each other since Day One. She had to know that if Hussein had a chance to throw her under the bus, he'd take it. She's not stupid, and she's incredibly vengeful. Essentially, a "you may have gotten me, but I'm taking you and all yours down with me" play.
Now, consider that delicious possibility whilst everyone is throwing in the towel...
Consider this, whilst concocting all manner of defeatist conspiracy theories.
Anything that goes thusly for Hussein would likely implicate Biden and Jarrett and more than a few others.
That server has long since been irretrievably wiped or simply replaced with another one with the original buried in 2 feet of cement somewhere just like Jimmy Hoffa.
Surely, you don't really believe the Klintoon's would just hand over genuine, untampered-with evidence that could damage them do you?
We may also want to consider the very distinct possibility that she has enough on those servers and e-mails still remaining to bring down Hussein Obama, too. Think about it; they have hated each other since Day One. She had to know that if Hussein had a chance to throw her under the bus, he'd take it. She's not stupid, and she's incredibly vengeful. Essentially, a "you may have gotten me, but I'm taking you and all yours down with me" play.
Now that would truly be a joyous event...........but not very likely.
If that ever turned out to be the case, she would have just committed hari-kari.
We may also want to consider the very distinct possibility that she has enough on those servers and e-mails still remaining to bring down Hussein Obama, too. Think about it; they have hated each other since Day One. She had to know that if Hussein had a chance to throw her under the bus, he'd take it. She's not stupid, and she's incredibly vengeful. Essentially, a "you may have gotten me, but I'm taking you and all yours down with me" play.
Now that would truly be a joyous event...........but not very likely.
If that ever turned out to be the case, she would have just committed hari-kari.
MM
Hitlery has proven to be one thing her entire career and that is extraordinarily vengeful.
Hussein literally stole the D nomination away from her in 2008. He did not appoint her to the SCOTUS. He fired her from being Secretary of State and replaced her with John Kerry (could you get more insulted?). Now, his DOJ/FBI is investigating her and seizing information. She's done politically.
Don't ya think the Clintons have as good of techs workin for them as the FBI? Hope something juicy is recovered but not going to hold my breath waiting.
4AGER - "... Hitlery has proven to be one thing her entire career and that is extraordinarily vengeful. ..."
Yep, and never forget the more than 1,000 FBI files that Hillary and Billary stole when Billary was President. There is no telling what damaging information they have on not only most D.C. politicians, but bureaucrats there also.
If the NSA doesn't have a backup of the server, they can just ask the Chinese or the Russians...or probably some fifteen year old kid in Michigan or somewhere like that for that matter.
If the NSA doesn't have a backup of the server, they can just ask the Chinese or the Russians...or probably some fifteen year old kid in Michigan or somewhere like that for that matter.
I agree with Sean about the predisposal to puke up defeatism, and it's both disgusting, and frustrating to see (as well as EASY !)
I would toss THIS into the mix, as something that the Arkansas gangsters did most emphatically NOT anticipate, and a bunch of spikes pulled on their downhill curve.
Cat's out of the fuggin' bag,.....
...it could well be time to do something along the same lines re: F&F
I am of the opinion that State Dept WAS involved with F&F. A US Attorney would be crazy to have a cross border operation without State Dept involvement. Keep in mind that the Messican response to this was rather muted. Hillary may throw some grenades at Holder just to create trouble for the admin. Holder DOES know where obambas skeletons are buried.
The Clintons are corrupt, but their pretty good at avoiding prosecution. I am positive that they destroyed the original hard drive after deleting the "personal" emails. There is no point in seizing her server.
Someone should get copies of all the emails sent between Clinton and her employees at the State Department. They could see if some of the deleted "personal" emails were actually work related.
Data recovery is pretty amazing - I had clearance to see most everything on that server that's been mentioned.
I just don't think she'd sit on anything super incriminating this long - knowing the eventual end game.
1. Does a Fed judge have the authority to order the recovery of data? How and with whom?
2. Does the Fed judge have the security clearance necessary to read the emails? TS/SCI - not likely
3. What's to prevent some 3 letter agency wonk from finding his own federal judge to shut this whole thing down - in the name of "National Security" due to unsecured classified info and nothing happens to Hillary?
Your forgetting that none of the emails on her server were classified! If there were then Hillary committed a crime.
You all are missing how this is going down. This isn't the FBI asking for or the government wanting to get at her emails. This is a little bitty public service legal group filing a FOIA lawsuit to see the emails. Hillary and crew have pretty much stalled, blown it off, treated it as a pain in the ass blow it off kind of deal. That is until HOLY SCHIT THINGS JUST GOT REAL kind of deal with the judge finally getting enough.
I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't all kinds of stuff on that server. Why? Because Hillary and crew never intended, never thought anyone would even try to make them actually turn them over. They have had absolutely no fear of that the government would do a damned thing or that Congress would get on with it. This was just a little FOIA lawsuit by a piddly little group of right wing fanatics as far as they were concerned.
Now, we'll see what happens, but Hillary and crew never figured someone would actually come and get their servers because this isn't a criminal investigation. This is a civil lawsuit. Getting a judge mad enough with your shenanigans that he sent Johnny Law to get your stuff, is a fairly big deal considering that the litigant was private and not a government entity.
If the NSA doesn't have a backup of the server, they can just ask the Chinese or the Russians...or probably some fifteen year old kid in Michigan or somewhere like that for that matter.
That's what I've been wondering for some time. Ask yourself, is it possible they are using this info (or Iran) to get the US to make a crap nuclear deal with Iran?? Maybe the Israelis know about it and are going to blow the lid off the whole deal?? (Conspiracy talk).
At the least, I'd be concerned that Russia and China DO HAVE these emails, and would blackmail Clinton if she were elected president.
The fact that she would risk the lives/freedom/security of 300 million Americans using a private email server is disgusting....
It may be her present server, but I highly doubt it's the one she used during her tenure reign as Sec of State.
Besides, if we want the full content of all of her emails, just ask the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, or Romanians. They have already hacked all of the non-government emails. That is by the GAO's own statement.
Are the Clintons devious enough to have staged all of this. First, they set up a private email server and run all of your (and your senior staff's) email through it. You know that it will likely be a liability, so you let the word come out about the servers existence, but only after it was been wiped clean. Lots of sound and fury occurs, and finally a judge says let's take a look. Meanwhile the tension builds (as in this thread), with heightened expectations that finally the Clintons have gotten caught. Then, after a whole raft of alphabet soup agencies have taken a look, along with the non profit plaintiffs and no smoking gun is found - Hilary sails forward to claim the D nomination with the exclamation - "See, they all looked and nothing was found - it was all a vast right wing and left wing conspiracy."
As 4ager pointed out, this is going to become quite interesting. ------
Krauthammer on Clinton email revelations: 'Nothing she says ever is true three weeks later'
August 11, 2015 FoxNews.com
Charles Krauthammer told viewers Tuesday on “Special Report with Bret Baier” that revelations classified emails were found on Hillary Clinton's private server that she used to conduct business showed that “it’s not only her trustworthiness, it’s the fact that nothing she says ever is true three weeks later.”
On Tuesday, the Intelligence Community Inspector General informed Congress that two of four classified emails found on Clinton's personal server carried a “Top Secret” classification – one of the highest security categorizations.
Clinton has repeatedly denied using her private account to send or receive any classified emails. On March 10 she told reporters “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material. So I'm certainly aware of the classification and requirements and did not send classified material.”
Krauthammer, a syndicated columnist and Fox News contributor said that Tuesday’s revelation is simply part of a larger pattern of behavior by the former secretary of state: “She says ‘there was nothing classified and I know how to do that, I know the process,’ and then it was revised to ‘nothing that at the time was classified.’ Well, now we’re learning that it is quite probable that actually at the time it was, and she should have known it even if she’ll claim, obviously, that she didn’t.
“There’s always a movement, a parsing of the edges, a cutting, with her husband, and with herself and that is the problem that dogs her and that she cannot escape.”
Of course they are , they gotta destroy it to protect her
Mike
This is my take on it as well. I have ZERO trust in any branch of the government to do the right thing. My guess is they will hold onto this until the right moment then release a statement saying "Hillary was right, all we found were her Yoga appointments". Even without the server, they had TONS of reasons to indict her, yet nothing happened. While it is true Obama hates the Clintons, the only way I see her getting nailed is if the bottom falls out of her in polls and a suitable replacement is found, and Sanders is not it.
Øbama just wants an untarnished slate so he can do Secretary General of NATO.
I don't think he really cares beyond who can help him get there, or how he can stop those that can hurt him getting there.
Did you mean the UN?
I did.
I can't even blame coffee this time.
Must be just getting old and bitter...
(me, not the coffee)
You're not thinking that Hitlery, who has hated Hussein from the Get Go, isn't hedging a bet by providing info that will implicate him as well? Hussein wants Hitlery out of it. He "has" her. She is a vengeful, vindictive beast and knows this game. She's done, and she won't go quietly.