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Key question in the article, and the trailing clause in it I presume to mean that the gun would be to defend the people from domestic threats, not foreign. An interesting question..

Knowing what we do now, noting the likely course the UK and its people seem determined to chart for themselves, if a similar plea for help went out today, would you send a gun to defend a British home – if you knew it couldn’t be traced back to you?

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...you-send-a-gun-to-defend-a-british-home/

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Four police officers who were flagged down by a store manager as his colleague detained a thief,” telegraph.co.uk reports. “[They] allegedly said they were ‘not kitted up to help’ and drove away.” So much for fighting crime in the Piers Morgan “gun-free” paradise commonly known as the United Kingdom. A country whose subjects are barred from possessing adequate means of defense and punished when they attempt to defend themselves (e.g., farmer Tony Martin’s ongoing ordeal). Where those paid to respond to crime seem to have more urgent priorities . . .

This latest in a seemingly unending list of examples of national suicide across the Pond recalls a question inspired by an old GUNS Magazine article from the December 1959 issue, “Guns in our bundles for Britain,” by William B. Edwards.

“We shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight them on the landing grounds, we shall fight them in the fields and the streets, we shall fight them in the hills. We shall never surrendah!” Edwards reminds us, quoting Winston Churchill during Britain’s darkest days. But that’s not the whole story . . .

“As the broadcast was momentarily interrupted by applause, Winston Churchill turned sadly and angrily away from the mike and said: ‘But I do not know what we shall fight them with,’” Edwards related.

We learn about the American Committee for Defense of British Homes, headquartered in New York City, that set about the task of appealing to Americans to “Send a gun to defend a British home.” We learn of the thousands of firearms the effort succeeded in collecting and shipping. And we learn how the possession of small arms led Bert “Yank” Levy, a “specialist in guerrilla and irregular fighting,” to “express…the belief that Home Guard defense was why ‘Britain can no longer successfully be invaded.'”

“Wherever the enemy may land, he will immediately be confronted by a nucleus of men born and bred in the district, knowing every foot of topography, fighting from every city, town village and hamlet, from every ditch, copse, wood, hill, and valley,” Levy declared. “The importance of the Home Guard idea in world politics is vast. For instance, this approach to war is proof that where a government trusts its people, its people trust and protect their government. ”

Does that remind you of anything?

Sadly, outrageously, we learn that when the danger had passed, government trust in the people went away, guns were destroyed and the people for the most part, obeyed in the “cleansing of firearms.” Thus we find ourselves in today’s sorry state of affairs. Which leads me to a question for TTAG’s readership.

Knowing what we do now, noting the likely course the UK and its people seem determined to chart for themselves, if a similar plea for help went out today, would you send a gun to defend a British home – if you knew it couldn’t be traced back to you?
In 1940 yes, today no way.
No. To paraphrase Jefferson, the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of innocents and muslims.
Send a bunch of flaming liberals my guns, after they banned guns?

No thanks.





Travis


If I remember right the guns sent to Britain by Americans were supposed to be returned to their owners after the war. The Brits instead rounded them up and dumped them in the ocean.
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
If I remember right the guns sent to Britain by Americans were supposed to be returned to their owners after the war. The Brits instead rounded them up and dumped them in the ocean.


You dont remember TOO right, lots of guns returned, I have one.
Originally Posted by 21
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
If I remember right the guns sent to Britain by Americans were supposed to be returned to their owners after the war. The Brits instead rounded them up and dumped them in the ocean.


You dont remember TOO right, lots of guns returned, I have one.


Not too long ago, the American Rifleman ran an article about a former Camp Perry winner's target rifle that was donated to Britain by its owner and later sent back.

Of course, it helped that the stock included a plaque explaining what it was and asking for its return.

I do not doubt that many other such donated guns stayed in England and years later were rounded up and destroyed.

The English laws are extreme, all right. Remember that SAS guy whose buds packed up a pistol and shipped it back with his belongings? He was facing jail, even though it was not clear that he even knew he had it.


No, and if the poms want weapons they can ambush their cops and other armed government employees and take theirs.
Use my own thanks! :-)

BTW, Who am I defending it from? I stopped being afraid of the boggieman along time ago, and we don't tend to have the same issues with black helicopters, Jade Helm, or bigfoots...



No Pete, but you do have the same issues we have here, namely halfwits in charge giving everything away to blow-ins from miserable countries.
Originally Posted by deflave
Send a bunch of flaming liberals my guns, after they banned guns?

No thanks.





Travis


Exactly! They got themselves into this mess-they can get themselves out.
The Brits have worked long and diligently to reduce themselves to helpless gerbils. Leave them to the predators.

Jim
Originally Posted by Pete E


BTW, Who am I defending it from? I stopped being afraid of the boggieman along time ago,



I don't know about you foreigners, but we used ours to kick the living schit out of a group of tyrannical fugkwads. More than once.





Travis
Originally Posted by Pete E
Use my own thanks! :-)

BTW, Who am I defending it from? I stopped being afraid of the boggieman along time ago, and we don't tend to have the same issues with black helicopters, Jade Helm, or bigfoots...



So you never have home invasions? There are no predators are deranged individuals in your fair land?

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Former Beatle George Harrison thought he had been fatally wounded by a psychotic intruder who believed he was on a mission from God to kill the pop star, an Oxford court heard yesterday.
The jury was told how Harrison and his wife Olivia fought with Michael Abrams who was armed with a knife and part of a stone sword broken from a statue of St George and the Dragon at the couple's Oxfordshire mansion.

In a statement read to the court, Harrison described tasting blood in his mouth as he lay on his back upstairs in his home, and hearing his lung deflate when Abrams plunged the knife into his chest. "There was a time during this violent struggle that I truly believed I was dying," he said.

He said he chanted "Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna" at the man, in a vain effort to distract him.

Oxford crown court heard that three psychiatrists who have examined Abrams concluded that he intended to kill Harri son because he believed the star had possessed him. But they also decided that he did not realise he was doing wrong because of these "delusional" beliefs.

There was no dispute, the prosecution said, that Abrams, who is from Liverpool, carried out the attack on December 30 last year. But it was up to the jury to decide if his plea that he was not guilty of attempting to kill Harrison and his wife "by reason of insanity" should be accepted. According to the prosecution, the defendant believed God had sent him on the murder mission.

Abrams, 34, who wore a pinstriped suit in court, showed no emotion as a vivid statement which Harrison gave to police after the attack was read out in court.

Harrison, 57, said that he had locked up and joined his wife in bed at around 2.10am. He had spent the previous evening visiting his brother and had watched a film at his mansion at Henley-on-Thames, which is surrounded by a high security fence.

At about 3.20am Olivia Harrison awakened her husband to say she had heard smashing glass. Her first thought was that a chandelier had fallen but she soon realised that someone must be in the house. Harrison said in his police statement that he put a jacket over his pyjamas and slipped on a pair of boots.

While Mrs Harrison phoned staff and the police he went down to the kitchen and found a window broken. Lying nearby was a stone wing which Harrison recognised from the statute of St George.

He smelled cigarette smoke and shouted to his wife that someone was in the house. He went back upstairs but then came back out on to a gallery that overlooks the ground floor. Glancing down, he saw an intruder in the main hall.

Harrison said: "He stopped in the centre of the room and looked towards me. He started shouting and screaming." The man was yelling: "You get down here." Harrison asked who he was. The man replied: "You know, get down here."

Harrison spotted the knife and the stone sword; a "personal memory" of another incident - which he did not specify - flashed through his mind. He said: "I made the decision to shout back at him to distract him. I looked down and shouted Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna."

The tactic did not work and the intruder advanced up the stairs. Knowing that his wife and mother-in-law were in the house Harrison decided to fight back. Armed only with the "element of surprise" he lunged at Abrams.

"My first instinct was to grab for the knife," Harrison said.

"We fell to the floor," he continued. "I was fending off blows with my hands. He was on top of me and stabbing down at my upper body."

Mrs Harrison came out and began hitting Abrams with a small brass poker. The intruder chased her and grabbed her by the throat.

Harrison said he staggered after his wife and Abrams, and at one point the three of them fell into a "meditation area" with cushions scattered on the floor.

Harrison said: "I felt exhausted and could feel the strength draining from me. I vividly remember a deliberate thrust to my chest. I could hear my lung exhaling and had blood in my mouth. I believed I had been fatally stabbed." The wound, one of five, caused the lung to collapse and left Harrison with breathing difficulties. His wife suffered head cuts and bruises.

Giving evidence from the witness box Mrs Harrison, 54, said: "There was blood on the walls and on the carpet. There was a moment when I realised we were going to be murdered - I realised that this man was succeeding."

Watched by the couple's son Dhani, 22, Mrs Harrison told how she grabbed a heavy table lamp and began swinging it at Abrams, who gripped the cord of the lamp and began pulling it towards him. Mrs Harrison threw the lamp at him and ran downstairs to find the police had arrived.

A police officer said that as Abrams was taken away he said: "You should have heard the spooky things he was saying, the bastard."

Prosecuting, Simon Mayo said the case was unusual. There was no dispute about what had happened but the trial was focusing on the defendant's mental condition. The trial continues.

Attacker believed he was on God's mission

Michael Abrams was described by Olivia Harrison as being "crazed and frenzied" on the night of the attack, writes Steven Morris . His hair was long, "straw-like" and unkempt, and he wore a black leather jacket. She was struck by his eyes which were "wild and staring". Throughout the attack he did not say a word - which she described as "odd".

After Abrams was arrested a police doctor examined him and concluded immediately that he was likely to be suffering from a psychotic condition and could be a paranoid schizophrenic.

The court was told that Abrams believed he was being possessed by George Harrison and had been sent on a mission by God to kill him.

Three psychiatrists were unanimous in their conclusion that he had a "complex delusional system".

He had travelled from his home in Liverpool on occasions prior to the attack and had asked local people about Harrison. On the night of the assault he was found with a cord some 100cm (40in) long on him.

Simon Mayo, prosecuting, said there was no dispute about Abrams' mental state but English law demanded that a jury makes findings on "issues of in sanity". He said that the jury may be directed to find not guilty verdicts "by reason of insanity".

Abrams, the court was told, has since expressed "considerable remorse" at his actions. He realised now how terrified the Harrisons must have been and had told doctors that he wanted to apologise to them.

In the dock Abrams looked very different to the figure who had confronted the pop star and his wife on that night.

His blond hair was cut short and he wore a smart black pinstripe suit, white shirt, pink tie and round spectacles.
Haell nooo, Not unless they are willing show enough initiative with clubs and/or knives to even stand up for their own basic liberties. If they ain't got the balls to do that they have no use for guns.
I'd send Birdwatcher, he could bore them to death.
That was WWII and since they have all been destroyed, I would not do it today. Let them buy them or do without!
What T said. In spades.
I won't be sending any guns or Ammo.

Everything I have stored along with millions of other Americans is going to get put to good use in the near future.



Shod
Don't even go there the average Brit lacks not only the ability to use a firearm , but the will to do so. Let them don their Bowler hats and have at the intruders with umbrellas.
Originally Posted by Pashooter
Don't even go there the average Brit lacks not only the ability to use a firearm , but the will to do so. Let them don their Bowler hats and have at the intruders with umbrellas.


Really...must be a different Englishman than we get visiting here.
The lot I have dealt with didn't seem like they fit your description.
No, but I'd let Pete come and stay at my place for a bit.
Wait a minute while I nibble a PopTart...
The Brits easily have the ability to manufacture top quality arms, like the rest of the 1st world nations.

Instead of sending them guns, how about manufacturing rights and any expertise needed.

This story is another shining example of why a couple of crates of arms and ammunition should be squirreled away, in anticipation, or as a safeguard against attempted oppression.

Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by Pete E
Use my own thanks! :-)

BTW, Who am I defending it from? I stopped being afraid of the boggieman along time ago, and we don't tend to have the same issues with black helicopters, Jade Helm, or bigfoots...



So you never have home invasions? There are no predators are deranged individuals in your fair land?

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Former Beatle George Harrison thought he had been fatally wounded by a psychotic intruder who believed he was on a mission from God to kill the pop star, an Oxford court heard yesterday.
The jury was told how Harrison and his wife Olivia fought with Michael Abrams who was armed with a knife and part of a stone sword broken from a statue of St George and the Dragon at the couple's Oxfordshire mansion.

In a statement read to the court, Harrison described tasting blood in his mouth as he lay on his back upstairs in his home, and hearing his lung deflate when Abrams plunged the knife into his chest. "There was a time during this violent struggle that I truly believed I was dying," he said.

He said he chanted "Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna" at the man, in a vain effort to distract him.

Oxford crown court heard that three psychiatrists who have examined Abrams concluded that he intended to kill Harri son because he believed the star had possessed him. But they also decided that he did not realise he was doing wrong because of these "delusional" beliefs.

There was no dispute, the prosecution said, that Abrams, who is from Liverpool, carried out the attack on December 30 last year. But it was up to the jury to decide if his plea that he was not guilty of attempting to kill Harrison and his wife "by reason of insanity" should be accepted. According to the prosecution, the defendant believed God had sent him on the murder mission.

Abrams, 34, who wore a pinstriped suit in court, showed no emotion as a vivid statement which Harrison gave to police after the attack was read out in court.

Harrison, 57, said that he had locked up and joined his wife in bed at around 2.10am. He had spent the previous evening visiting his brother and had watched a film at his mansion at Henley-on-Thames, which is surrounded by a high security fence.

At about 3.20am Olivia Harrison awakened her husband to say she had heard smashing glass. Her first thought was that a chandelier had fallen but she soon realised that someone must be in the house. Harrison said in his police statement that he put a jacket over his pyjamas and slipped on a pair of boots.

While Mrs Harrison phoned staff and the police he went down to the kitchen and found a window broken. Lying nearby was a stone wing which Harrison recognised from the statute of St George.

He smelled cigarette smoke and shouted to his wife that someone was in the house. He went back upstairs but then came back out on to a gallery that overlooks the ground floor. Glancing down, he saw an intruder in the main hall.

Harrison said: "He stopped in the centre of the room and looked towards me. He started shouting and screaming." The man was yelling: "You get down here." Harrison asked who he was. The man replied: "You know, get down here."

Harrison spotted the knife and the stone sword; a "personal memory" of another incident - which he did not specify - flashed through his mind. He said: "I made the decision to shout back at him to distract him. I looked down and shouted Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna."

The tactic did not work and the intruder advanced up the stairs. Knowing that his wife and mother-in-law were in the house Harrison decided to fight back. Armed only with the "element of surprise" he lunged at Abrams.

"My first instinct was to grab for the knife," Harrison said.

"We fell to the floor," he continued. "I was fending off blows with my hands. He was on top of me and stabbing down at my upper body."

Mrs Harrison came out and began hitting Abrams with a small brass poker. The intruder chased her and grabbed her by the throat.

Harrison said he staggered after his wife and Abrams, and at one point the three of them fell into a "meditation area" with cushions scattered on the floor.

Harrison said: "I felt exhausted and could feel the strength draining from me. I vividly remember a deliberate thrust to my chest. I could hear my lung exhaling and had blood in my mouth. I believed I had been fatally stabbed." The wound, one of five, caused the lung to collapse and left Harrison with breathing difficulties. His wife suffered head cuts and bruises.

Giving evidence from the witness box Mrs Harrison, 54, said: "There was blood on the walls and on the carpet. There was a moment when I realised we were going to be murdered - I realised that this man was succeeding."

Watched by the couple's son Dhani, 22, Mrs Harrison told how she grabbed a heavy table lamp and began swinging it at Abrams, who gripped the cord of the lamp and began pulling it towards him. Mrs Harrison threw the lamp at him and ran downstairs to find the police had arrived.

A police officer said that as Abrams was taken away he said: "You should have heard the spooky things he was saying, the bastard."

Prosecuting, Simon Mayo said the case was unusual. There was no dispute about what had happened but the trial was focusing on the defendant's mental condition. The trial continues.

Attacker believed he was on God's mission

Michael Abrams was described by Olivia Harrison as being "crazed and frenzied" on the night of the attack, writes Steven Morris . His hair was long, "straw-like" and unkempt, and he wore a black leather jacket. She was struck by his eyes which were "wild and staring". Throughout the attack he did not say a word - which she described as "odd".

After Abrams was arrested a police doctor examined him and concluded immediately that he was likely to be suffering from a psychotic condition and could be a paranoid schizophrenic.

The court was told that Abrams believed he was being possessed by George Harrison and had been sent on a mission by God to kill him.

Three psychiatrists were unanimous in their conclusion that he had a "complex delusional system".

He had travelled from his home in Liverpool on occasions prior to the attack and had asked local people about Harrison. On the night of the assault he was found with a cord some 100cm (40in) long on him.

Simon Mayo, prosecuting, said there was no dispute about Abrams' mental state but English law demanded that a jury makes findings on "issues of in sanity". He said that the jury may be directed to find not guilty verdicts "by reason of insanity".

Abrams, the court was told, has since expressed "considerable remorse" at his actions. He realised now how terrified the Harrisons must have been and had told doctors that he wanted to apologise to them.

In the dock Abrams looked very different to the figure who had confronted the pop star and his wife on that night.

His blond hair was cut short and he wore a smart black pinstripe suit, white shirt, pink tie and round spectacles.


Outside of some of our larger cities and towns, its actually not common and certainly not something I would be paranoid over.

I suppose I am lucky in that with a little common sense and situational awareness, I've never been in a position where I felt threatened...

Now that I think about it, I've never filed a claim on my home insurance and my wife has never used my life insurance. I'll call Monday and cancel both.
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Pashooter
Don't even go there the average Brit lacks not only the ability to use a firearm , but the will to do so. Let them don their Bowler hats and have at the intruders with umbrellas.


Really...must be a different Englishman than we get visiting here.
The lot I have dealt with didn't seem like they fit your description.


Those English are some real badass mofo's alright. If you really piss them off they might use a rolled up People Magazine on ya.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Now that I think about it, I've never filed a claim on my home insurance and my wife has never used my life insurance. I'll call Monday and cancel both.


And while your at it, Take that silly ass jack and spare tire out of your car. If your that paranoid about having a flat tire you should be phugin walking every where you go.
Originally Posted by deflave

I don't know about you foreigners, but we used ours to kick the living schit out of a group of tyrannical fugkwads. More than once.
Travis


Going back in history to even before the Romans, you won't find a period of peace lasting more than 10 year when we haven't either been fighting internally or in external wars..

When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..

Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine


Those English are some real badass mofo's alright. If you really piss them off they might use a rolled up People Magazine on ya.


Can I be there when you explain that theory to a couple of the paras and some of the nuts from Hereford.
Originally Posted by Pete E
Originally Posted by deflave

I don't know about you foreigners, but we used ours to kick the living schit out of a group of tyrannical fugkwads. More than once.
Travis


Going back in history to even before the Romans, you won't find a period of peace lasting more than 10 year when we haven't either been fighting internally or in external wars..

When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..



True...when you were still predominately English.
Originally Posted by Pete E
Originally Posted by deflave

I don't know about you foreigners, but we used ours to kick the living schit out of a group of tyrannical fugkwads. More than once.
Travis


Going back in history to even before the Romans, you won't find a period of peace lasting more than 10 year when we haven't either been fighting internally or in external wars..

When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..



Paranoia don't factor in.
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When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..


Yeah well I think it's high time you become 'paranoid' about it. You're being completely over-run by third worlders and a rolled up People Magazine just ain't gonna cut it.

For Christs sakes get some balls.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
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When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..


Yeah well I think it's high time you become 'paranoid' about it. You're being completely over-run by third worlders and a rolled up People Magazine just ain't gonna cut it.

For Christs sakes get some balls.


There is something not right with you.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11362013/Violent-crime-surges-16-in-new-figures.html


Over 700,000 Violent offenses in the last year, including over 24 THOUSAND rapes.

From the data article:

There were 24,043 rapes in recorded crime figures for the year, a rise of 31 per cent on the previous 12 months and 81 per cent higher than a decade earlier.

I bet that the 24,000 rape victims would have liked to have the right to ward off their attackers with a weapon, let alone the more than 1/2 million other violent crimes victims.


Not exactly a peaceful utopia.
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Pete E
Originally Posted by deflave

I don't know about you foreigners, but we used ours to kick the living schit out of a group of tyrannical fugkwads. More than once.
Travis


Going back in history to even before the Romans, you won't find a period of peace lasting more than 10 year when we haven't either been fighting internally or in external wars..

When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..



True...when you were still predominately English.


There's the rub, historically we've never been "predominately English"...Truth is we've always been a mongrel race by dint of war, trade and immigration..Heck, even that most English of icons, St George was actually a Palestinian or Syrian who served as a soldier in the Roman army!

Edited to add, besides Wales are playing England in the Rugby World Cup tonight, so I have more important things on my mind!
Lee Rigby might have thought that arms would have been useful.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/02/26/uk-britain-soldier-idUKBREA1P1KG20140226

Also, just because their leaders have chosen the path of civilian disarmament, if needed and I were still able to, I'd be happy to send them a weapon of mine.

Some 20 or so years ago a local doctor and his wife were visiting London . She was out walking and was mugged. Two buttheads tried to steal her purse. She happened to have a SMALL knife in her purse and took it out. They ran to the cops who arrested her. Had to go to court, of course, and could have been sentenced to years in the slammer but the court told her to go home and not come back.

The world is weird.
Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11362013/Violent-crime-surges-16-in-new-figures.html


Over 700,000 Violent offenses in the last year, including over 24 THOUSAND rapes.

From the data article:

There were 24,043 rapes in recorded crime figures for the year, a rise of 31 per cent on the previous 12 months and 81 per cent higher than a decade earlier.

I bet that the 24,000 rape victims would have liked to have the right to ward off their attackers with a weapon, let alone the more than 1/2 million other violent crimes victims.


Not exactly a peaceful utopia.


Nope, but with a population of 60 odd million, still relatively rare, especially outside of our larger cities or towns..
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
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When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..


Yeah well I think it's high time you become 'paranoid' about it. You're being completely over-run by third worlders and a rolled up People Magazine just ain't gonna cut it.

For Christs sakes get some balls.


There is something not right with you.


Oh probably, but if the true ethnic Brits are ok getting their heritage and bloodlines wiped out forever by Nigerian and Pakistanis and every other vermin that crawls the earth, who am I to judge. Right?
Originally Posted by Pete E


There's the rub, historically we've never been "predominately English"...Truth is we've always been a mongrel race by dint of war, trade and immigration..Heck, even that most English of icons, St George was actually a Palestinian or Syrian who served as a soldier in the Roman army!


Pete, if you think the rubbish that have been coming into England for the past fifteen years is ever going to stand with the Englishmen that are left then you are sadly mistaken.


We are seeing what the black bastards from Africa get up to here...because some mongrel politicians thought it was a good idea to lend a helping hand by letting the miserable filth in.

They are animals for the most part.
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Pete E


There's the rub, historically we've never been "predominately English"...Truth is we've always been a mongrel race by dint of war, trade and immigration..Heck, even that most English of icons, St George was actually a Palestinian or Syrian who served as a soldier in the Roman army!


Pete, if you think the rubbish that have been coming into England for the past fifteen years is ever going to stand with the Englishmen that are left then you are sadly mistaken.


We are seeing what the black bastards from Africa get up to here...because some mongrel politicians thought it was a good idea to lend a helping hand by letting the miserable filth in.

They are animals for the most part.


Nothing a stiff upper lip can't fix.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by JSTUART


There is something not right with you.


Oh probably, but if the true ethnic Brits are ok getting their heritage and bloodlines wiped out forever by Nigerian and Pakistanis and every other vermin that crawls the earth, who am I to judge. Right?


The exact same thing could be said of your nation, and mine.
Originally Posted by Shodd
I won't be sending any guns or Ammo.

Everything I have stored along with millions of other Americans is going to get put to good use in the near future.



Shod


I agree
sooner than we want but inevitable.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Pete E


There's the rub, historically we've never been "predominately English"...Truth is we've always been a mongrel race by dint of war, trade and immigration..Heck, even that most English of icons, St George was actually a Palestinian or Syrian who served as a soldier in the Roman army!


Pete, if you think the rubbish that have been coming into England for the past fifteen years is ever going to stand with the Englishmen that are left then you are sadly mistaken.


We are seeing what the black bastards from Africa get up to here...because some mongrel politicians thought it was a good idea to lend a helping hand by letting the miserable filth in.

They are animals for the most part.


Nothing a stiff upper lip can't fix.


No...there is no way to fix it, because everyone gets irate when politicians are hung up and skun for their sins.

So it will keep going as it has been, because at heart we don't want to turn into the animals ourselves.
Law of nature, eat or be eaten.

Fortunately we still have the means to fend off the savages, but I guess that's paranoia talking.

All I know is that Noah built the Ark before the rains began, might be a lesson there.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Law of nature, eat or be eaten.

Fortunately we still have the means to fend off the savages, but I guess that's paranoia talking.

All I know is that Noah built the Ark before the rains began, might be a lesson there.


Remind me...how many muslims are you importing?
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Law of nature, eat or be eaten.

Fortunately we still have the means to fend off the savages, but I guess that's paranoia talking.

All I know is that Noah built the Ark before the rains began, might be a lesson there.


Remind me...how many muslims are you importing?


Exactly why it has nothing to do with paranoia, as Pete suggested.
Originally Posted by Steelhead


Exactly why it has nothing to do with paranoia, as Pete suggested.


It is only paranoia if it is imaginary...if it is not then it is a survival trait.
Let's face it the White race is doomed.

Somewhere along the line, we, the White male, turned total puszy and let our homelands be invaded by savages of all stripes looking to leech off the White man's civilization.

End times. Europe gonna look like Mudville. US... Mexico north, Australia...well I don't know jack about that place but the big cities do look beautiful there...for now.


I would like to take umbrage with that...but when you are right, you are right.


I still think it all started to go tits up when women got the vote...they just have different priorities than blokes.
Originally Posted by JSTUART


I still think it all started to go tits up when women got the vote...they just have different priorities than blokes.


This.
I am not saying all Brits their military has some real hard core folks for sure. But the average British citizen does not impress me as someone I would count on in a pinch. Sad to see what has happened, and what is about to happen over there. quote=JSTUART]
Originally Posted by Pashooter
Don't even go there the average Brit lacks not only the ability to use a firearm , but the will to do so. Let them don their Bowler hats and have at the intruders with umbrellas.


Really...must be a different Englishman than we get visiting here.
The lot I have dealt with didn't seem like they fit your description. [/quote]
No.
Originally Posted by Sauer200
Originally Posted by JSTUART


I still think it all started to go tits up when women got the vote...they just have different priorities than blokes.


This.
Can's argue.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Sauer200
Originally Posted by JSTUART


I still think it all started to go tits up when women got the vote...they just have different priorities than blokes.


This.
Can's argue.


I agree too, but the nudges from our dear Kosher friends probably had the biggest impact..



Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Let's face it the White race is doomed.

Somewhere along the line, we, the White male, turned total puszy and let our homelands be invaded by savages of all stripes looking to leech off the White man's civilization.

End times. Europe gonna look like Mudville. US... Mexico north, Australia...well I don't know jack about that place but the big cities do look beautiful there...for now.


The White Race isn't doomed... we can thank politicians and liberals for screwing it up...but people just need to start waking up and those that have woken up, need to quit standing down and act like they will be able to do something about it in the distant future "When the S... hits the fan"....

People have the backbone.. they just fear the reaction of the politicians by calling them the entire government.....

Today is the day folks... and yeah in 1940 would I have sent firearms to Britain, you bet your ass....

if Europe started standing up to this Islam and Third World invasion, you bet your ass I'd support them in any way I could...

Same with OZ, or New Zealand...and our northern neighbors...

Diversity if a crock of sch....

I've always judged a person on their merits... not their skin color or ethnic background ( at least not negatively)....

example is There are Americans who happen to be black.... then their are "Afro Americans..." I stand by the first example and have no use for the second example...

or an American who happens to be a Muslim... vs one who comes here and demands America changes our entire culture to meet their needs....I stand by the first and against the second.. even if it means sending him back to where he came from in a Pine Box...

Conservative need to quit having our lives ran by big mouth liberals who act like they are some sort of moral compass for society and leftist liberal Democrats, who keep passing all of these stupid laws in support of "diversity"......we need to be in their face with the same intensity they are in ours...

If you aren't an American First, and whatever your ethnic or religious affiliation is second, then you are an enemy of this nation...

sadly it was a Democrat made famous for a statement "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country..." I am of that generation, and a son of those that fought in WW 2 and grandson of those that fought in WW 1....

and apologize to no one for it...
Fugg em!!
The Brits seem to have an aversion to self defense.
An aversion to self defense is some sort of mental disorder. I'm not a psychiatrist so I can't help 'em.

As to a gun ? , no , Why would I send a gun to someone with a mental disorder ?


Mike

My Grandfather gave his Colt .45 M1917 that used half-moon clips to the English during WWII. He never got it back.
Originally Posted by websterparish47
In 1940 yes, today no way.


that sums it up nicely.
Originally Posted by Pete E


Going back in history to even before the Romans, you won't find a period of peace lasting more than 10 year when we haven't either been fighting internally or in external wars..

When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..



You were able to type that in English.

You're welcome.



Travis
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Pete E


Going back in history to even before the Romans, you won't find a period of peace lasting more than 10 year when we haven't either been fighting internally or in external wars..

When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..



You were able to type that in English.

You're welcome.



Travis




Why...are you in your nineties?
You can enter the conversation when you don't live in a third-world schit hole.




Travis
Originally Posted by deflave
You can enter the conversation when you don't live in a third-world schit hole.




Travis




There you go, still thinking I live in Montana.
Not Montana.

Hint:

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What...a scrap yard, man you have to upgrade your domicile.


You can do better than that!
Hey James,

First Uruguay, then England... we are coming my friend! Just have to see what injuries the squad has going into the match with Fiji..

Regards,

Peter
only if i could go with it and help them defend their country
And just when we find out we were just paranoid all these years, we find out someone really is out to destroy us. Id rather be paranoid and right. The muzzies will come here cause this president and a few sissies running our country are letting them in. One resigned yesterday though so there is hope. I am sure they will be more problems than the black culture. There is also some hope. Some of them are becoming christians. Our church supports a church in Iran. It is underground . Some of them go to the mosques in the night and use the place to get baptized in the name of the Father , the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Some of The muzzies might come here and just leach off of us. I fear they will gun down people on Sunday morning going into churches though. Oh, and I would not give one dime to the English. I dont mind them at all but if they didn't learn anything from Hitler, they won't learn it.
Originally Posted by Pete E
Originally Posted by deflave

I don't know about you foreigners, but we used ours to kick the living schit out of a group of tyrannical fugkwads. More than once.
Travis


Going back in history to even before the Romans, you won't find a period of peace lasting more than 10 year when we haven't either been fighting internally or in external wars..

When the time comes, the Brits have never been slow taking up arms, either for or against the Government of the day, we just don't get paranoid about it..



Maybe a little paranoia beforehand would have negated the need to take up arms.
Just because you are paranoid does not mean they are not out to get you.


Just sayin.
England is always good for a laugh.




Travis
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