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The nation’s pork producers are in an uproar after the federal government abruptly removed bacon, pork chops, pork links, ham and all other pig products from the national menu for 206,000 federal inmates.

The ban started with the new fiscal year last week.

[b]The Bureau of Prisons, which is responsible for running 122 federal penitentiaries and feeding their inmates three meals a day, said the decision was based on a survey of prisoners’ food preferences:

They just don’t like the taste of pork.

“Why keep pushing food that people don’t want to eat?” asked Edmond Ross, a spokesman for the prison bureau. “Pork has been the lowest-rated food by inmates for several years,” It also apparently got more expensive for the government to buy, although he did not provide specifics.

The National Pork Producers Council isn’t buying it. “I find it hard to believe that a survey would have found a majority of any population saying, ‘No thanks, I don’t want any bacon,'” said Dave Warner, a spokesman for the Washington-based trade association, which represents the nation’s hog farmers.

“We’re going to find out how this came about and go from there,” Warner said. “We wouldn’t rule out any options to resolve this.” He said the association “is still formulating our strategy” to reverse the prison decision, which the industry first learned about Monday when the Fort Worth Star-Telegram called for comment.

The pork industry produces 24 billion pounds a year of pork products, from tenderloin to bacon, its most popular product. About a quarter of that is exported.

Warner said pork is healthy and economical, especially for a big buyer like the federal government. “Not to throw beef under the bus, but we cost a lot less than beef.”

“We’re nutritious,” he said. “A boneless pork chop or loin is a very healthy alternative to lots of other foods. If you compare a pork tenderloin to a rib eye steak and a boneless chicken breast, we come out pretty well.”

But Ross said that based on annual surveys of inmates’ food preferences, pork lost its luster years ago. To wit: In the last two years, the federal prison menu dropped to just two pork products, he said.

“And we were paying more than what we’d like to pay,” Ross said.

“People are more health conscious these days,” he said. “Some people choose to be vegetarian or vegan. That’s their preference.” As of last week, the prison menu had added an “economically viable” turkey bacon substitute.

Incarcerated pork lovers still have an option: The prison commissary, a convenience store that sells packaged pork rinds and precooked bacon. But they have to pay.

Observant Muslims and Jews are forbidden to eat pork, and the prison system has long made accommodations for them by providing alternatives to pork and halal and kosher foods. Ross declined to say whether there has been an increase in Muslim or Jewish inmates in recent years and whether that may have factored into the survey responses.

“In general we welcome the change because it’s facilitating the accommodation of Muslim inmates,” said Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the country’s largest Muslim civil rights advocacy group. “We hope it’s not an indication of an increasing number of Muslims in the prison system.”

Hooper predicted that anti-Islam groups would spin the decision into a case of the federal government acting under pressure from Muslims.

“This is just the kind of thing that drives them crazy,” he said. “It will stoke the fires of Islamophobia based on the usual conspiracy theories.”
Expensive? BS.
Inmates don't like it? Again, BS. Everyone like sausage and bacon and ribs.
Canned SPAM.
What's next, tuna?
Chicken of the seas.

Sorry Charlie.

Just talked to my broker.
My shares of both will be gone by 8:02 AM.

I'm reivesting in pork bellies.
smile

Cut them down to one meal a day, 1500 calories.....their palate will become remarkably versatile.
Personally I don't think we should feed them anything more than bread and water
Eat don't eat, I don't give a fugg.

80% of the people who find religion in prison convert to Islam...........
We are so lost!

This is pathetic
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Eat don't eat, I don't give a fugg.

80% of the people who find religion in prison convert to Islam...........



Prison is an incubator for our own worse problems.

Feed them oatmeal six days a week, and a pork chop on Sunday. They'll eat the hell out of it.
Cutting out bacon might be considered as cruel and inhumane treatment…. but it might make some of those guys stay on the straight and narrow, if it was offered as an incentive for good behavior. It would probably be better than the possibility of an early release.
I like the bread and water thing.
Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
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“Why keep pushing food that people don’t want to eat?” asked Edmond Ross, a spokesman for the prison bureau. “Pork has been the lowest-rated food by inmates for several years,” It also apparently got more expensive for the government to buy, although he did not provide specifics.



why care what they *want* to eat. they are in prison. not the holiday day inn express.

like others said, give em bread and water.
I honestly think them getting bacon in prison is a sign we are too nice to inmates. But if they complain about the food give them bread and water like some of you guys said and see if they won't gobble down a slice of ham!
Originally Posted by BigDave39355
Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
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“Why keep pushing food that people don’t want to eat?” asked Edmond Ross, a spokesman for the prison bureau. “Pork has been the lowest-rated food by inmates for several years,” It also apparently got more expensive for the government to buy, although he did not provide specifics.



why care what they *want* to eat. they are in prison. not the holiday day inn express.

like others said, give em bread and water.


I don't care if they feed them anything at all. IMO, this is Obama taking care of all the Muslim prisoners...
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Feed them oatmeal six days a week, and a pork chop on Sunday. They'll eat the hell out of it.


And make them pound rocks 7 days a week.
If they want choices at meal time they can work evenings in the garden.

There's kids going to bed hungry, and our govt is pandering to prisoners. Total BS

I'd let the prisoners eat rats, mice, crows, seagulls, etc for their animal-based protein requirements.
Feed em pork 24/7 I say. Its good for em! :-)
All of the above. Screw them people. Lots of people on the outside have it worse and get less help.
do em like at Mississippi's Parchman,

make them farm.
Originally Posted by gitem_12
Personally I don't think we should feed them anything more than bread and water


Now let's have a little humanity around here. Three meals a day. Balony sandwiches. That will make them happy. Regardless they will take just about anything they can get after a couple of months of Baloney sandwiches. smile Works in Arizona. I don't think these other shariaphiles should get any less.
Great thread. I love it.

"Pork! That's my meat." -Ernest P. Worrell, in "Ernest Saves Christmas."
Here you go. If men can fight for this nation eating these, then 1 day should be PLENTY for a prisoner.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Here you go. If men can fight for this nation eating these, then 1 day should be PLENTY for a prisoner.


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Only if they add a ton of estrogen in with that stuff.

Then maybe I would agree with you
Is the Obama administration now going to have bagels and lox served on Sunday's for the Jews that are incarcerated?
Who cares if they don't like it.. Eat or starve!!!

Just another Obama trick to help the rag heads..
Originally Posted by FOsteology
Is the Obama administration now going to have bagels and lox served on Sunday's for the Jews that are incarcerated?


Good question.

Do they do sunday mass for Catholics?

Well, I think we have our answer.


Must be that seperation of church and state thing happening...

Originally Posted by Fireball2
All of the above. Screw them people. Lots of people on the outside have it worse and get less help.


And have to work for it rather than sit watch stupid chit on tv and cry like a bunch of deprived babies on a tit.

What's gonna happen when the tit runs dry?

Me thinks some folks should have been weaned long ago.


What the hell does it matter "what" they get served. The cheapest source of food that meets the minimum caloric intake should be served.

If you don't like it, stay the hell out of prison. Their preference should be the last thing we care about.
I survived on MREs after Katrina and was glad for them. I'm not sure when prisoners get to choose their menu like a resort but....I am the one that posted for Spam recipes....
What have they been feeding Muslim prisoners? I'm suspicious that this is involved in the change.
The paranoid view is they are doing to a captive, unloved population what is in store for the rest of us.
Originally Posted by jbuck
What the hell does it matter "what" they get served. The cheapest source of food that meets the minimum caloric intake should be served.

If you don't like it, stay the hell out of prison. Their preference should be the last thing we care about.


Mealworms - high calorie, low cost. Ask the other snakes and lizards.
Originally Posted by mark shubert
Originally Posted by jbuck
What the hell does it matter "what" they get served. The cheapest source of food that meets the minimum caloric intake should be served.

If you don't like it, stay the hell out of prison. Their preference should be the last thing we care about.


Mealworms - high calorie, low cost. Ask the other snakes and lizards.
High calorie but certainly not low cost. Check out the bird feed shelves. They run more than $1/oz (that's oz, not lb).
I'd suggest getting rid of all the free weights and give them labor intensive work to do. Let them earn credits to trade in for whatever food and drink and cigs they care to.
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Feed them oatmeal six days a week, and a pork chop on Sunday. They'll eat the hell out of it.


Or, just whatever is cheapest. It's fuggin prison for crap sake.
Originally Posted by mark shubert
Originally Posted by jbuck
What the hell does it matter "what" they get served. The cheapest source of food that meets the minimum caloric intake should be served.

If you don't like it, stay the hell out of prison. Their preference should be the last thing we care about.


Mealworms - high calorie, low cost. Ask the other snakes and lizards.


Great concept. Also, I hear that ground earthworm burgers are good for you.
Google sustainable agriculture and start reading. We are suposed to eat the corn and protect animal rights. It is a big deal around the world and agriculture is under attack using the word "unsustainable". It it also the word used to attack carbon energy.
They probably don't like being locked up either.
Feed 'em Spam. Very nutritious and tasty. We're talking prison food, right?
I would say I do not care WHAT they eat - but I DO care. I want them to be the unhappiest bunch there is. I want it to be bad enough that they NEVER want to go back. I have an acquaintance who breaks some important law every fall, so he can spend the winter in jail. He gets fed, stays warm, gets new glasses, and gets any health problems taken care of. A damn parasite, gaming the system. As an aside, this same guy was an eye - opener to me. I tried to help him, and he just is a user. Laws are not irrelevant to him - they are non - existent. The only thing that matters to him is what HE wants. Obama is just being Sharia compliant. Hell - the guy is a Muslim. If there is anybody left that doubts that, I question their cognitive ability.
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