I wanted to respond to OO, but didn't want to hijack his thread. People keep bitching about the direction of the our culture and our politics, but fail in seeing the enemy. They want to understand why America will not unite to confront Islam, control immigration, protect the integrity of our military, check spending etc. The answer is simple, you just have to see it. Our government is based on numbers. The Party with the numbers runs the show. The Dems are in full attack mode to defeat the Right. Understand that, and you'll understand World and National politics.





It took an enormous act of war at Pearl Harbor to unite the country - and you can argue that the country was still less than united. 911 did not unite the country politically, and what consensus there was fell apart quickly over Iraq.

The loss of unity over Iraq was nothing more than the Dems finding an opportunity to attack GWB in attempt to get him out in '04. Do not forget that that the Dems were severely butthurt over the hang chad loss in Florida. Al Gore was a whisper away from giving the Dems 12-16 years straight in the White House.

The prolonged hunt for Saddam, lack of finding WMDs, the bombings and lack of unity in he Iraqi people all became fuel to attack GWB and the GOP. THIS is politics today in our country. The Dems are out to attack and discredit any up and coming GOP personality long before they gain any name recognition. They demonize all GOP leadership to the point where even half of the morons around here bitched more about Boehner and McConnell in power than Pelosi and Reid running the show.

The Left in this country HATES conservative White, Christians so much, that they are willing to play the "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" game. This is precisely why the Left will not condemn Islam, will not consider restricting immigration, and champion Gay rights, Ferguson, U Mizzou, or anything else that pisses off conservatives. ANYTHING that gets under the skin of

Gun owners
Christians
Americans of Euro ancestry
abortion foes
welfare reformers
Conservatives in general

is fair game for the Left.

Conservatives are pro gun? Attack!

Christians oppose the LGBT thing? Plaster it EVERYWHERE. Make it common and normal on tv, commercials, in print, etc.

White men are tired of of having women and gays pushed on the military? Open it all to them. No restrictions. Forget the real purpose of the military. The new purpose is to destroy Conservatism.

Pro lifers hate Planned Parenthood? Make it a sympathetic cause in the media.

Whites tired of the race baiting BLM? Give BLM better funding, organization and media exposure.

Conservatives do buy the climate chafe bullcrap? Make it America's #1 priority!

Are you all getting the idea yet? The next election will either confront this trend, or allow this to grow until they convince the masses that Conservatives are the enemy. Conservative causes are the enemy. Not the Muslims, not the thousands of Latin gangs that infest our cities. Not the black gangs that make our inner cites war zones. It's not uncontrolled spending and budget deficits.

The focus for conservatives needs to be less on bitching about who in the GOP field is not conservative enough for you and more about stopping the Hillary/Sanders ticket coming your way soon!!

I'll take ANY of the GOP candidates over that ticket. I mean I don't care if it is Trunp, Cruz, Ben, Bush, Carly or Christie. Before any meaningful reform can be made you have to stop the cultural and ideological bleeding. Win the WH, keep the House, work on the Senate, appoint to the Courts! That is the goal.

Enough of what GWB didn't do. You people should kiss his butt in gratitude that he beat Gore. I promise you that this would all be worse had Gore won. Did you want Johnfucking Kerry? Love his effective work as Sec of State, don't you?

The goal is stopping Hillary and the Dems, otherwise you will continue to be besieged by class and race envy. Tax the rich (anyone who runs small business), reverse White privilege (screw the White man. You just TRY to get your kids into your States biggest universities. Islam will not be confronted, the boarders left open, and racism will be the power word to trump and criticism of urban lawlessness and entitlement.

Wise up.

probably more rambling than needed for those of us that are concerned. We don't need much convincing.
The real 800 pound gorilla in the room, is the 57 or greater % of Americans that either don't give a chit, or are complicit.

And to put the period on that, it's called Spiritual Warfare. Liberals are rabidly anti-God, and conservatives are generally Christian.

There's the root battle. It's never been left v right.

40/40 Liberal vs Conservative that won'y change. It's the gullible 20% that are swayed.

and don't we each know a million of those people

Spot on Doc, but what I can't figure out is why conservatives have been so unable to win the war of persuasion. Is it because we have the naive idea that good ideas have to win out on their merits, alone? Is it because enlisting the ad-men is beneath our dignity? Why can't we figure out how to sway the gullible?

Or is it that no-one can beat a permissive Santa Claus?

The composition of our society frightens me most.

I could never figure how they could hate something so bad, that they claim to not believe exists. miles

in so far as i know, the santa man was shot dead out in kali the other day by a devout muslim?

as population pressures build up, increase, and become more difficult to manage in a civilized way, the challenges increase. right now, the killings appear to be less than 50 in general and on average. that's been exceeded, but usually it's less, plus the wounded.

everytime i listen to the cnn or the fox, i hear that the gov't has the fbi, the dea, the atf, homeland security, marshall service, and others on the scene, after the fact. where is the next level of expertise? the UN has security forces, where are they? germany is sending support to the middle east, france is sending bombers, and some of the local aramaic countries are joined in.

is islam fixin' to experience a civil war?

will Fortress America be a part of the final solution?

if so, then a catharsis might be in order?

Or spend so much time trying to disprove something that doesn't exist in their minds.

Not gonna mention Antelope Sniper by moniker but there is a guy here that does that a lot.

They hate that we believe and fear we may be correct.

ok, it's probably time to revisit the primer, as a reminder. anyone who wishes to offer an opposing view is free to do so. all ideas and perceptions are invited.

so, to begin, we have God, he created the Universe, the Universe has many stars, and ours is called the Sun.

the Sun has many planets revolving around it.

our planet, commonly called Earth, by the Earthlings, is inclusive of a blue sky, an atmosphere that varies in weather content, tall tree & short trees, and the ground, and water.

does that about cover it?

i'm just trying to get us all or most of us, on a one common page.

for those that don't understand god, well then, i'm with you, as i don't either.

why anyone would pray after the fact, instead of before the fact is quite beyond me. but, i'm a luddite.

what if the Fates decreed all of this? what if the Fates fit into God's plan? what is Destiny? can destiny be avoided?

so many questions, and so little time.

hopefully, a sense of the dilemma we are facing does come to mind?

Then why do some here support Unions and vote for Democrats?

The biggest problem right now sit in the White House next is the people in congress that have sold out.

well, of course. they have got theirs.

and let the daimon take the hindmost.

something went really wrong back there somewheres.

The Right is horribly bad at self promotion whereas the left will fed you chickenpoop and tell you its the greatest chicken salad on earth.

Something I'm sure you can relate to is that you and I have colleagues that are crappy clinicians, don't know occlusion from Bolean Algebra, leave margins that you can stick a fork into, yet have the entire community convinced they are L D Panky reincarnate.
They sell themselves whereas I'm old school and think your quality will speak for you. Sometimes not blowing your own horn hurts you, but compared to a self aggrandizing incompetent, I sleep well at night.

Same with the GOP - no self promotion of their merits.

The goal is to be the best and let it show. IMO, perfuming a turd is fraud.

I remember a conversation with an assistant who had an instrument on the cart with visible water spots. I told her it was not enough to have instruments that are sterile but they must also look sterile. It's not either or but both.

Conservatives must have the best ideas and they need to be pushed hard, skillfully, unashamedly and relentlessly. The day of assuming the buyer will see the merits are long gone.

The left needs to unflinchingly be called out in the most blunt fashion. The left has mastered the word game and the right needs to blatantly attach the real definitions to their schemes, and pound them home.

We need to shine the light on those gaping margins. ;-{>8

I couldn't agree more, oh wise sage!

Best of the best right here.

Today it may not be Russia, but America has become so weak with PC and the like until our present enemy has so far a much easier road

Thanks, I hate bad dentistry almost as much as liberalism. ;-{>8

I have worn myself out pondering, and reading, and writing about these issues over the past several weeks. I was so exhausted that as I drove up to the ER I'm working this weekend this evening I punched up some music I only listen to during the Christmas/Advent season: Handel's Messiah.

As I drove I let the music and the lyrics have their way with me, not thinking, just feeling... and my worries melted away when I heard the movement (Part II, Scene 6), "Why do the nations rage?" Sung by the bass soloist, which is of course taken from Psalm 2:

1 Why are the nations in an uproar? And why do the peoples mutter in vain?
2 The kings of the earth stand up, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against His anointed:
3 'Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.'
4 He that sitteth in heaven laugheth, the Lord hath them in derision.
5 Then will He speak unto them in His wrath, and affright them in His sore displeasure:
6 'Truly it is I that have established My king upon Zion, My holy mountain.'
7 I will tell of the decree: the LORD said unto me: 'Thou art My son, this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of Me, and I will give the nations for thine inheritance, and the ends of the earth for thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.'
10 Now therefore, O ye kings, be wise; be admonished, ye judges of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Do homage in purity, lest He be angry, and ye perish in the way, when suddenly His wrath is kindled.
Happy are all they that take refuge in Him.

It seems prophetic to me at this time in history, and a great comfort. YMMV.

This.

Anti American, socialist indoctrination in the public schools that we conservatives pay for shapes kids to think like democrats and turn them against our foundational principles by the time they become voters. The media and entertainment reinforce the same message.

Winning hearts and minds to conservative ideas is very hard when the young have already been programmed against us.

We need to take the schools back. We need to take local and state governments back.

We also need to understand that this is not about politics as usual. Destroying the ability of the leftists to oppose conservative principles, as they are doing to us, is the only way we will re-establish a constitutional republic.

Well said Doc. A lot of good writing in this thread by realists who understand the tactics of the left. The Dems are effective with these tactics and they keep pushing them.

Early in my post-military professional career I assumed that doing good work and being effective to get the work done would be enough to get recognized and promoted. A senior company engineer I had a lot of respect for pulled me aside and corrected my impressions. While you MUST do good work and make a difference, you also must ensure that the relevant people (in my case program directors, in the case of the electoral body that 20% in the middle) see that good work and understand your potential.

It is not bragging, it is not self-grandizing, it is ensuring that your good work gets recognized and you are advanced to a place where you can have greater influence and can more effectively make change towards the best ideas.

It's no different in the world of politics. If we as conservatives, and that is a big group, don't get that 20% to understand that they are better off with conservatives in the leadership posts and get us there then we're stuck with no influence.

There is a significant part of the Campfire that believe (loudly!) that unless you subscribe to every single conservative principle then you're a liberal. It is that ilk that will sink us. We need ALL non-hard core liberals in our tent to be successful. We all have hot button conservative issues we believe in, and most of us have a few, and then there are some issues that most of us frankly either don't care much about or (gasp!) have even what some would call liberal leanings towards.

As an example, I was at my dentist last month for a crown. I asked him how some of the small business fee and bureaucracy reductions under our new Republican Governor had affected his business. He said there wasn't much of an effect to his bottom line but that he really appreciated the efforts by the governor to make the burden less and that there were some really good things on the way. Now, he admitted he's a liberal Marylander and has been his whole life but he commented "You know, with understanding like this about how important businesses like ours are and how hard the government makes it to run them, the Republicans may well be the answer because Martin O'Malley sure wasn't"

If you live in Texas or Idaho you would look at our Governor Hogan and say "he's no conservative" but the reality is that he got elected by tempering his desire for a much greater amount of conservatism with the realities of trying to be only the 2nd Republican Governor in MD since Spiro Agnew and he succeeded. Now that he is in, even with an overwhelming Dem majority in the legislature, he is able to make changes that move the state more to the center and eventually to the right. Maryland will never be as conservative as our deep red states but we should take the win as we can.

I will vote in the primary for who I think is the best candidate to beat Hillary. I suspect it's not truly who I align with the best but if they do not get elected then we have zero ability to influence the game. Whomever it is, the media in all it's forms will be against them and we need to get that middle 20% to win so making sure the message is clear, articulate and inclusive is going to be critical.

If a man believes that there is a God that takes an interest in human affairs, he should vote his conscience and accept the election results.

If he has doubts about God's interest... then he should engage in the game of politics.

So true


You get it!!!

Satan does his best work by convincing people that he doesn't exist. He's tearing apart the morality of this country while convincing them that's he's not there.

Pugs, Hatari... why is it that I find myself always agreeing with you two miscreants?

I want you to compromise your conscience and every principle of God and man you believe in, if that's what it takes to keep Hilary out of the White House.

Miles: C.S.Lewis covered this ground better than anyone, ever, in his books. Particularly The crewtape Letters and Mere Christianity. He ably pointed out that the atheist must hold to a position of extreme illogicality: to disbelieve in God, yet to hate Him at the same time. He does this in order to justify his overthrow of moral absolutes (ideas of right and wrong).

The only way modern socialism and leftism can exist is in a moral vacuum, and a moral vacuum can only exist if the idea that ALL religions are based upon--i.e., that God established what is right and what is wrong, and there's no arguing with God, since he created the universe--is torn down.

I find it interesting that so many leftists deny the personal reality of God, yet they believe in occult powers. This is as ridiculous as believing that darkness exists, but that light doesn't. Insane.

Voting FOR the person who ends up on the ballot opposite her seems like the best strategy.

You got something else?

Get god out of politics..

Then get public funded elections..

yeah, we need to do something. right now, the left nor right is being pleased with the system.

nor are the independents & libertarians who walk amongst us.

the high=end elites from all quadrants who can afford to donate millions to buy their point of view seem to enjoy it quite well, and are very satisfied with it. maybe that's why we haven't been able to change things?

No, Old Trapper. We (conservatives) just don't have a plan yet. Maybe this link would suffice until a better one comes along.

Warning, what follows in the link is delightfully long and makes incredibly good sense.......

https://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/defeating-domestic-jihad-a-program-of-action/

thanks for the read, it's enlightening.

it does sound like a kind of evolution to me. i kinda commissurate with the native americans when the europeans came ashore with their ideology, technology, and enhanced ability to adapt to the environment.

fighting ideologies is a tough business. it's like looking at a stump, and seeing the various fungal colonies becoming established there. over a period of years, some colonies advance, and some colonies get walled off.

ultimately the stump is consumed, but the exact winning fungi is difficult to define. a lot of them played an important role in the process.

ideology vs. ideology, what a concept.

i hope i never have to kill another five-fingered human because of his ideology?

I very much enjoyed this article and see it as full of good info and ideas, however my comments were about conservatism, in general.

Yes, I understood that also. The very nature of conservatism is to persuade with ideas. Liberals take a much more direct approach; persuasion with dollars i.e., does the idea spend well at the supermarket? Tough to win over hearts and minds on something that puts no jingle in your jeans (today).

Good article.