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Posted By: FieldGrade Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Why the hell would Trump waste his time with that commie prick?
Only good reason I can think of would be to tell him to GFY.

As far as I'm concerned any religious leader that injects themselves into politics should loose their tax exempt status.
And that isn't directed solely at the Catholic religion.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
The pope wields a tremendous amount of power. Nearly a billion people world wide consider him to be their leader. If he tells the people of some country how to vote, a majority of them will listen. Whether you agree with him or not (usually I don't), you can't ignore his influence.
Posted By: FieldGrade Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Maybe....maybe not....but either way catering to the status quo isn't what got Trump elected.
Posted By: Starman Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
The funny thing about many dumb catholics, if you ask them who is the head of the church, they will say the Pope.
Posted By: Penobscot_99 Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Why the hell would Trump waste his time with that commie prick?
Only good reason I can think of would be to tell him to GFY.

As far as I'm concerned any religious leader that injects themselves into politics should loose their tax exempt status.
And that isn't directed solely at the Catholic religion.


Why did he waste his time on the Saudi inbreds?
Why did he waste his time on the Jews?

Just FYI ...the Pope does Not dictate to any Catholic on how to vote.
Get your Phuc king facts right...now GFY:)
Posted By: BarryC Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
I think they will get along grandly.
Both seek to help the common man, both are against globalization. I think Trump can make the Pope see how mass immigration hurts the common people on both sides.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
1 in 4 people are Catholic in the United States, which makes it the largest number in our country. Many of the Americas to the south are 75 percent Catholic

When you have a religious war being fought against you, it's a good thing to stay close to the NUMBER one religion in the Americas.


Ain't difficult to understand, unless you live under a rock.
Posted By: billy336 Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Originally Posted by Starman
The funny thing about many dumb catholics, if you ask them who is the head of the church, they will say the Pope.


Catholics are dumb? [bleep] you, your mother and your whole family you piece of schitt. Who the [bleep] do you think you are? I'll send you my address come say that to my face and I'll feed you to the pigs you [bleep]
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Originally Posted by FieldGrade


As far as I'm concerned any religious leader that injects themselves into politics should loose their tax exempt status.
And that isn't directed solely at the Catholic religion.


Agree 100%!

And those whose titles start "The Reverend..." should pay double. grin
Posted By: Just a Hunter Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
The Pope isn't subject to the U.S. tax code. Something about living in Rome.
Posted By: Just a Hunter Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Not very Christian of you.
Posted By: hatari Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Why the hell would Trump waste his time with that commie prick?
Only good reason I can think of would be to tell him to GFY.



It is customary. I miss the German Pope.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Poor Trump, when the media is not after him, some here are.
Posted By: EthanEdwards Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Originally Posted by billy336
Originally Posted by Starman
The funny thing about many dumb catholics, if you ask them who is the head of the church, they will say the Pope.


Catholics are dumb? [bleep] you, your mother and your whole family you piece of schitt. Who the [bleep] do you think you are? I'll send you my address come say that to my face and I'll feed you to the pigs you [bleep]
Does this count as bringing fambly into it? hawhawhaw

But sincerely, chill, because we all be friends here...you know, except Starfag, Stargay, Jello, Robjordon, and a couple hundred others.
Posted By: elkhunternm Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Originally Posted by billy336
Originally Posted by Starman
The funny thing about many dumb catholics, if you ask them who is the head of the church, they will say the Pope.


Catholics are dumb? [bleep] you, your mother and your whole family you piece of schitt. Who the [bleep] do you think you are? I'll send you my address come say that to my face and I'll feed you to the pigs you [bleep]

Billy336,this is the proper response for starman......

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He's just a troll trying to get a reaction out of people.
Posted By: comerade Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
I am Catholic and our church doesn't act or require that we vote any particular way.Other than a right to life ,it is never discussed . Our greatest gift is the gift of free will-and this is sermonized regularly It is not a bully pulpit at all folks
Posted By: nighthawk Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Could it be because we're more concerned with what happens to you over eternity, not just the next election cycle?
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Originally Posted by FieldGrade

As far as I'm concerned any religious leader that injects themselves into politics should loose their tax exempt status.
And that isn't directed solely at the Catholic religion.


As pointed out, the Pope isn't subject to U.S. tax laws so that's kind of a bs threat.

Beyond that we need to be really careful about allowing government to exert control over churches with the threat of withholding tax exempt status. As the saying goes, the power to tax is the power to destroy. The "separation of church and state" in the constitution is there for keeping government from interfering with the churches not the other way around. Churches need to be free to speak out about moral issues without fear of reprisal from government. We're already seeing calls from democratic politicians to go after churches tax exempt status when churches speak out against homosexual marriage and abortion. Much of the left's agenda is in direct contradiction with traditional Christian morality and I really don't want the next democratic administration to be able to shut down Christian opposition the next time some homo decides pedophilia should be legalized by taxing the church into oblivion.
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
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Posted By: Henryseale Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Actually, there is no "separation of Church and state", as such, mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. This is a common misconception. However, it is written there shall be freedom of religion - not to be confused with freedom from religion - and that the government shall not establish a particular religion. The Constitution in no way states or implies a non-existence of God, just the prohibition of an official government sponsored particular religion. A reason for this was that some of the original colonies had specific established religions. Not sure about others, but Maryland was one that originally banned all non-Catholics from residing there. A branch of my family that were devout Presbyterians had to leave Maryland for North Carolina due to this.

Additionally, and this has nothing to do with the Constitution, when Texas was being settled as a state of Mexico, all colonists were required by the Mexican government to convert to the Catholic religion. With the advent of the Republic of Texas, this citizenship requirement was abolished.

Personally, I wish the founding fathers had made a statement in the Constitution such as to proclaim the free practicing of religion of individual choice, but also including a statement that this nation is founded on the principles of Judeo-Christain values. I can well understand how they would never have imagined such weirdness and perversion as we now see demanding "rights" and acceptance.
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Originally Posted by Henryseale
Actually, there is no "separation of Church and state", as such, mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. This is a common misconception.....


That's the reason I put it in quotes. The commonly referred to Establishment Clause of the First Amendment is this:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

In layman's terms it means the government can't establish a state church and make you join it, nor can they stop you from practicing the religion of your choice. The threat of taxation for the purpose of stopping the free expression of religion falls under the "prohibiting the free exercise thereof" part.

Nowhere in there does it say a church can't speak out against the government. It prohibits government reprisal against churches, not the other way around.
Posted By: FieldGrade Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/24/17
Originally Posted by Penobscot_99
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Why the hell would Trump waste his time with that commie prick?
Only good reason I can think of would be to tell him to GFY.

As far as I'm concerned any religious leader that injects themselves into politics should loose their tax exempt status.
And that isn't directed solely at the Catholic religion.


Why did he waste his time on the Saudi inbreds?
Why did he waste his time on the Jews?

Just FYI ...the Pope does Not dictate to any Catholic on how to vote.
Get your Phuc king facts right...now GFY:)


You should spend a little more time on your reading skills and lees time working on being an ass hole.

While I don't lap up the Trump kool aid like a lot of you I actually think he's doing a pretty good with his first trip abroad and wasn't ripping on him. I simply don't think this particular Pope is worthy of his time.

I also don't give a f*ck where the Pope lives....he dam sure injects himself into politics and that should disallow the catholic religion's tax exempt status in every country...especially the US. Religion has no place in politics....period.
Posted By: Penobscot_99 Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/26/17
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by Penobscot_99
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Why the hell would Trump waste his time with that commie prick?
Only good reason I can think of would be to tell him to GFY.

As far as I'm concerned any religious leader that injects themselves into politics should loose their tax exempt status.
And that isn't directed solely at the Catholic religion.


Why did he waste his time on the Saudi inbreds?
Why did he waste his time on the Jews?

Just FYI ...the Pope does Not dictate to any Catholic on how to vote.
Get your Phuc king facts right...now GFY:)


You should spend a little more time on your reading skills and lees time working on being an ass hole.

While I don't lap up the Trump kool aid like a lot of you I actually think he's doing a pretty good with his first trip abroad and wasn't ripping on him. I simply don't think this particular Pope is worthy of his time.

I also don't give a f*ck where the Pope lives....he dam sure injects himself into politics and that should disallow the catholic religion's tax exempt status in every country...especially the US. Religion has no place in politics....period.


Touchy? Listen up Grade school. How does the Pope inject himself into politics?
Popes twisting presidents arms and making them do something they
don't want to do?
Religion has no place in politics? Are you for real???
It's Freedom "of" religion
NOT
Freedom "from" religion
God is being taken out of our society ...and look at
the society we have.
Posted By: cisco1 Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/26/17

Pope frank looked at Melania and Trump and said ........." after gazing upon you ,my dear, .....I am re-thinking my vow of Celibacy.....where's the alter boy?"
Posted By: Deflagrate Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/26/17
Vatican City is a country. The Pope is the head of state. Presidents visit heads of state.
The Johnson amendment to the Internal Revenue Code of 1954 makes organizations endorsing a political candidate or intending to influencing legislation to be ineligible for 501(c)(3) tax exempt status.
501(c) is the most common type of tax exempt charitable organization. Many of you probably belong to one in the form of a church, a sportsman's club, Rotary, etc.

(3) Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious [ . . . ] purposes [ . . . ] no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in subsection (h) [relating to certain expenditures by charities to influence legislation]), and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.

This applies to your churches and temples and their representatives/leaders in that capacity.
It does not apply to a foreign head of state. The Pope, the Chancellor of Germany, and the Queen of England can say whatever he/she wants and do so in front of God and everybody; it doesn't violate US law.

Atheists or Scientologists or whatever you call yourselves are a bunch of snowflakes that can't handle someone else having a different beleif - kind of like socialists and Nazis. The constitution guarantees freedom from a state sponsored religion, i.e. the Church of England, and freedom to practice, or not, any religion you wish, or do not. It does not guarantee freedom from seeing a symbol of a religion nor the right to ban or interfere with the free practice of another's religion. Snowflakes that can't handle seeing a cross, well, share a safe space with the lady who flips out when she sees a confederate flag.

The New Atheist Movement wants to remove, counter, and destroy religion. Guess what? The intelligentsia leaders of the New Atheism are socialists and communists who want to destroy the Constitution.
Take freedom to practice away, take away free speech, firearms, freedom from search and seizure. It's all the same guys, it's taking away someone's rights. Maybe I should pick and atheists lose freedom of speech and the 2nd amendment because it

Posted By: sawbuck Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/26/17
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Posted By: Starman Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/27/17
Originally Posted by billy336

Catholics are dumb?...


Yes many catholics are dumb , I know that from life long immersion in generational Roman catholic Irish and mediterranean
families and communities abroad..... especially rock dumb when they tell me the Pope is the head of the church and praying
to statues of Mary and Joseph.....Morons claiming to be devout christians is a common thing.

Pope is the head of the church = moronic
praying to Mary & Joseph = moronic

Posted By: elkhunternm Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/27/17
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Posted By: BOWSINGER Re: Trump and the Pope? - 05/27/17
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by billy336

Catholics are dumb?...


Yes many catholics are dumb , I know that from life long immersion in generational Roman catholic Irish and mediterranean
families and communities abroad..... especially rock dumb when they tell me the Pope is the head of the church and praying
to statues of Mary and Joseph.....Morons claiming to be devout christians is a common thing.

Pope is the head of the church = moronic
praying to Mary & Joseph = moronic



Not near as moronic as you.
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