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Posted By: g5m Forest fire. No escape - 06/19/17
Imagine being trapped in your car in a forest fire:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/18/world/europe/portugal-pedrogao-grande-forest-fires.html?_r=0
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: No escape - 06/19/17
Hell of a deal.

Not unprecedented though.

Black Saturday fires in Australia come to mind, or the Great fire in Peshtigo.


An old Division Supervisor told me once that a manager owes it to his people to never, ever be surprised.
Posted By: kellory Re: No escape - 06/19/17
Don't really want to think on it. My son is trained to fight wildfires, and can receive a call to hop on a plane at any time.
Posted By: Rooster7 Re: No escape - 06/19/17
That is terrible but I can't help but wonder who in the hell would sit in their car until they died?
Posted By: MOGC Re: No escape - 06/19/17
My son and I were caught ahead of a conservation department controlled burn on a big block of public land. We were coyote calling and came in from the south. The conservation department set the fire from the north. The boy and I were about two miles from the truck calling in a deep brushy creek bottom when I first smelled the smoke. The smell became fairly strong on the wind so I decided to climb to higher ground to hopefully get a better view. About halfway up ashes were mixed into the wind like snow flurries. We picked up the pace and once we got high enough to see I could tell the bottom below us was smoke covered. There's no cell service so we hustled our butts off the 1 1/2 miles cross country back to the truck. Once we were able to drive out a way I circled around and saw fresh tire tracks on a logging road and followed them to where a dozen state trucks and trailers were parked. Nobody was around but I could hear heavy equipment running back in the direction we had been hunting. Once I got back to town I called the sheriff's office and was told that the conservation department was doing a controlled burn in that area. I explained how we were nearly trapped down in that holler and they said the conservation agent would contact me asap. He never did, I got busy and let it go. It was an interesting experience.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: No escape - 06/19/17
You don't want to have to rely on a car in a fire. A few years ago 2 firefighters in Idaho died when smoke choked out their engine. If its thick enough to kill your car, it's thick enough to kill you.
Posted By: Rooster7 Re: No escape - 06/19/17
Originally Posted by MOGC
My son and I were caught ahead of a conservation department controlled burn on a big block of public land. We were coyote calling and came in from the south. The conservation department set the fire from the north. The boy and I were about two miles from the truck calling in a deep brushy creek bottom when I first smelled the smoke. The smell became fairly strong on the wind so I decided to climb to higher ground to hopefully get a better view. About halfway up ashes were mixed into the wind like snow flurries. We picked up the pace and once we got high enough to see I could tell the bottom below us was smoke covered. There's no cell service so we hustled our butts off the 1 1/2 miles cross country back to the truck. Once we were able to drive out a way I circled around and saw fresh tire tracks on a logging road and followed them to where a dozen state trucks and trailers were parked. Nobody was around but I could hear heavy equipment running back in the direction we had been hunting. Once I got back to town I called the sheriff's office and was told that the conservation department was doing a controlled burn in that area. I explained how we were nearly trapped down in that holler and they said the conservation agent would contact me asap. He never did, I got busy and let it go. It was an interesting experience.


Glad you made it out. Now that I can see happening. Sitting in your car until death is pretty messed up IMO
Posted By: kellory Re: No escape - 06/19/17
It the article, the road itself melted, and fire blocked any further travel. They died like rats in a trap.
Posted By: Rooster7 Re: No escape - 06/19/17
Oh Jesus...
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: No escape - 06/19/17
Depending on the fuel type and load, a vehicle can be a good place to shelter. Provided that you stay low.

Sheltering in your vehicle while in heavy brush or timber won't work however. The residence time of the fire is too long.

Most people wait too long to evacuate or it turns political.
Posted By: deerstalker Re: No escape - 06/19/17
i have been right through that area. narrow roads and steep terrain. lots of pine with cork oak and a tree that is like our Madrone. terraced vineyards scattered around with small villages.
wonderful people. we ate one night in a little tavern pizza joint and all we could get across was french fries. soccer team came in adopted us and we didn't leave until 3 am.
i like Portugal , but love Spain.
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