I wonder how many other cities have their very own income taxes:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...vote-today-on-income-tax-on-the-wealthy/

Reading the whole article and seeing the picture of those communists was disgusting. Those Reds are not my fellow Americans and they never will be.

Yet sadly I live here. Sigh.

In 1984 WA passed a law that no municipality (counties, cities, etc) can create an income tax. So this violates the WA state constitution. Seeing as Sideshow Bob Ferguson is the Attorney General, who knows how this will shake out with our current commie WA Supreme Court justices who invent new law from the bench. I'd not be surprised if they allowed it to stand. We already have a ~10% sales tax (varies a little city to city). I neither work in Seattle nor live in Seattle proper nor do I make $250k a year so as of yet I remain unaffected by THIS idiotic law.

Jealousy transformed into law. I hope the mayor and city council get azz cancer.

Of course when the top % who are targeted get the hell out of Seattle and the income tax falls short you know what comes next - another income tax that cuts into the middle class, ad infinitum, ad nauseum, et cetera. This was Not called the last/only income tax......

At least this is a tax on citizens, who have representation and a way to fight it. Dam near every city with a decent tourist industry, passes tourism and hotel taxes to fudge over those who visit. But then, Seattle surely has those also.

I like that plan, tax the idiots that voted for Obama and Hillary. That ought to teach them a real lesson.

Or acute sudden onset of lead poisoning.

^^^^^^ This.

You got it. They have they government they want and deserve.

With all your barking I am slightly stunned with where you have chosen to live...

I live in Oregon, its as bad or worse. It wasn't always like this.






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One of the people said "I wish I could pay more taxes". At 170,000, she was below the 250,000 threshold. Hell, she CAN. Just GIVE them the money. They'll take it. Another line that puzzles me, is that the wealthy do not pay their "fair share", which is more than anybody else. Doesn't sound fair to ME. Sounds like they are fining those who have the audacity to be successful.

I'd like to see a tax on citizens based on political party affiliation. Tax the dhimmicrats only.

If it holds up watch everyone earning over the limit leave.

The Mayors phrasing reveals that he knows it won't stand muster in the courts. It's the same as when cities in states that pre-empt local gun laws pass taxes on ammunition or restrictions on CC. They're making a statement, at taxpayer expense, and avoiding the real issue: overspending and their failure to provide financially for the pensions they promised to the employees that protect their lives and property, and make the cities liveable.

Their fascination with "sustainability" seems to vanish where finances are involved.

Philly has a city income tax.


People that WILLINGLY live in areas where they have to pay CITY and STATE income tax to feed a liberal state government are just as much the enemy.

People will move out of there, and it'll look and feel like Detroit and Chicongo.

^^^THIS^^^

It drives me crazy every time I here these people say that the rich needs to pay their "Fair Share". Don't the rich already pay a higher percentage rate? If anything, that's not fair.

Which is probably the ultimate goal. Get those locusts to spread across the country and destroy other areas.

The fairness argument is what gets me. "Fair" would be if everyone paid an equal share of what it takes to run government services. Equal benefit, equal tax burden. Good luck getting that put in place, though.

Yep, capitalism just doesn't compute with these idiots.

I hear this from a lot of people, along with "anybody should not be allowed to make over $???????", with varying amounts stated. These people get this from listening to the main stream news feeding their jealousy. They never think about the consequences of this idea if it were introduced. They think that a person would keep making a lot of money, even if anything over a certain figure was confiscated. They also think that should this happen, it would be given directly to the poor, ie. themselves. These people have become so indoctrinated that I don't think they could ever see the truth. miles

If I was well-heeled and living in Seattle, I'd be packing my bags today.

Unfortunately, when the very rich leave an area, they migrate to places like Montana. There, they buy the best land at outrageous prices, which drives up all the other land value/taxes and prices the people who were born there out of their own land. THEN, they start changing the local government into exactly what they fled in the first place.

It's a cancer.

In 2016, 50.57% of Maine's voters approved a 3% tax (over and above what is already paid) on those earning over $200,000. By all accounts, there has been an exodus of those wage earners out of state and good for them. Our governor refused to sign a budget this year if that tax was upheld.

We also voted to legalize marijuana.

While we are no where near that income bracket, my wife and I are leaving. We are sick and tired of this bullshit.

They say its to be sure that the wealthy pay their fair share. WA has a high sales tax but no income tax. While I would buy a modest Ford, a wealthy man will buy a BMW. While I buy a 16' fishing boat, a wealthy man will buy a 24' jet boat with all the fixings. They do pay more taxes because they buy more expensive stuff.

Britain tried that in the 1960s and '70's. It failed. They had the "Fame drain". Most notably Rock Stars - Beatles, Stones, Elton , etc., just left. Britain once had a 95% bracket. No kidding, 95% of income in taxes. WW II was expensive and that was NOT the way to pay for it. George Harrison wrote a song called Taxman - "one for you nineteen for me, I'm the Taxman".

Just like the restaurants that were forced to pay a higher minimum wage in Seattle left, so will the ones that make over the minimum threshold for the cities new income tax. My wife says I'm to 'strong' in my intolerance of liberals. I don't think I'm strong enough.

That's what happened to Seattle. People driven out of California moved there then worked, and continue to work, very hard at making it into California. It was underway in 88 when I PCS'ed up there and it has continued now as a multi-generational thing and their little snowflake children are all full of that entitlement mentality. Lots of great folks in WA (and CA and OR for that matter) and very few of them live in the big cities that drive the liberal agenda.

Seattle is symptomatic of a liberal educational system which includes private schools. This class warfare is easily taught to the masses as capitalism is criticized. Decades of this has given rise to the popularity of Bernie, Pocahontas, et. al.. The USA is at a crossroads of political and economic direction. As capitalism is trampled by many, Trump brings a re-awakening of its value and worth in a free society. This struggle will not end anytime soon.
It is no surprise that another large city is controlled by socialists - too radical to be called democrats.

Seattle is a liberal city which is trying to control the state. They need more money to do this.

Sounds like what has happened in Colorado and Vermont, formerly conservative States that have become aggressively liberal when people moved there to escape something and as soon as they established themselves, they set about to help the natives live better, more progressive, lives. Liberalization doesn't take place over night, rather it creeps in over decades.

"Tax the rich" has long been a great vote getter here in Canada. Out latest liberal gov't used this line in the last election on several occasions to ply votes from the lower middle classes.

I've had high hour weeks where I've paid more in deductions than I took home. Should be a flat tax, no matter how much you make,

Neither of those applies to me, so no problem!

you just described arizona

This is more of the lasting legacy of the lawn jockey we had for 8 years.

Oh, crap.

I hear North Dakota is nice this time of year.........

The wealthy also buy more expensive toys and pay a greater amount of sales tax in the process. Now the idiots want to add a additional bracket to their income tax? Even Socialists like Macron are trying to lower their tax rates.

At least Lawn Jockeys worked

We are pulling up roots and moving next year. Piss on these liberals, their marijuana laws, gay pride, and high cost of living.

I thought that was weird too.

I guess she is not interested in redistributing her wealth......just other people's.


The proletariat are set for a big win against those mean old Kulaks.

One fellow described these laws and policies as a game of tag. Kind of like yelling You're it! and expecting no one to run.

Excessively high taxes are likely to result in a corresponding decrease in charitable contributions.

Not the one he was talking about. Well, he worked at destroying America, but actually mostly farmed that out, while he golfed and took vacations on our dime. I think we need to recoup those losses from the traitor's hide.

Look at the bright side. They got weed.

at the end of that article they say that people making $21K a year pay $3528 of it in taxes, while people making $500K pay $12K in taxes.

Instead of increasing taxes on the rich, they better figure out a way to keep a guy making only $21K from handing over $3500 of it to the government.

and a 24 year old making $170K? and saying she'd love to be taxed more.

the problem with youth is its wasted on the young.

Give them a little time. They'll get around to you eventually - they'll have to in order to try and support an unsustainable expense structure.

Do they really think high earners living in seattle won't just relocate their addresses outside the city limits??? I would, same way corporations relocate outside the US for tax reasons but operate inside the US for practical reasons.

With all your Trump hating I'm surprised you haven't moved to Mexico yet.

Many cities and a few whole states are politically and economically at Stage 4 cancer. That cancer WILL spread throughout the rest of the country, as much as uninfected parts of the US wish it would remain localized. Enjoy your slice of Heaven while you can..................and have location #2 and 3 lined up in advance. It's becoming a game of finding the best deck chair on a sinking ship.

I'll be out of here before then. Think I'll move to TN and vote democrat.

Actually, I was thinking that the accountants will be busier and the top tier will continue to take a paper loss...in fact it would be fair to say that only those who cannot claim expenses would be caught in the net. Likely all the top echelon public servants.

Don't think that the city fathers in Seattle haven't thought of that - folks who move can expect never-ending "audits" to prove that they don't live in Seattle any longer, much like Rush Limbaugh being harassed by New York to this very day with his tax-seeking "audits".

G5m: This is just more evidence that demonrats/liberals/progressives have one objective above anything else and that is the destruction of capitalism/America!
Sad that.
It seems that the communists on the Seattle City Council are trying to out do the pathetic anti-capitalist anti-American politicians in kalifornicationkopia.
Pathetic.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Although Seattle may be demographically different because of the software industry, nationally only a small percentage of Americans earn over $250,000 individually or over $500,000 as a couple, somewhere around 3%.

This looks like common "feel good" legislation, the sort that allows politicians to make headlines and to look like they doing something to help the proletariat, while actually accomplishing very little. IOW, mostly eyewash, but eyewash that is likely to buy them votes because they come off as champions of the common man.

If Carissa Knipe is really making $170K, she should invest in a financial adviser who can help her make good decisions. Her web site, www.carissaknipe.com, doesn't strike me as a vehicle for making $170K, but what do I know.

Not necessarily. Rust Belt economies were based on manufacturing. Seattle’s economy is based on technology, and it’s roaring right now. Microsoft and Nintendo are just across the lake. Amazon, Facebook, Google, and some other big players are just north of downtown. Those companies are important, but the hundreds of smaller companies scattered across the county that support and rely on the bigger ones are more important. (And by “smaller” I mean from startups to $2 billion per year.) When that kind of money is on the table, nobody leaves.

To put numbers on it, when you make $250k/year, a 2.25% tax is $5,625, or just over a week’s wages. I’ve worked for a number of these companies, although I’m not making that kind of money yet. The biggest issue with living outside of town is having to commute up to 90 minutes each way. When you make that kind of money, every hour you spend in a car or on a ferry boat is an hour that you’re not in the office. A surprising amount of the things that generate promotions, raises, bonuses, etc. happens during informal chats in hallways and lunchrooms at the beginning and end of each day. If you’re not in those conversations, then you miss out. When a bonus is 8% or more of your current pay, a raise is 4-5%, and a promotion can increase it 15-20%, then you suck it up and drop a week's wages on income tax. You simply can’t risk missing the chance to make even more.

That said, there is some risk of people leaving their jobs to go somewhere else, and none of those companies want that. All across town, corporate HR, legal, and finance teams are probably looking for creative ways to make sure that these people never feel the taxman’s bite. They’ll pass the cost on to consumers, who will only notice a penny or two here and there on the cost of goods, or maybe price increases come every 10 months instead of once a year.


Okie John

Arbitrary percentages are not Marxist. An equal share would be 50% to the state.

She works for one of the software companies I mentioned. The site is for her hobby. Pretty common here.

Depending on how social media responds to her comments, she might have to rely on that site for income in the very near future. That's pretty common here, too.


Okie John

Do you know her?

The fact that she says that she is making $170K as a software designer/programmer/whatever doesn't make it so. Truth isn't a given in the virtual world.

LinkedIn. $170k is about right for what her profile says that she does at that company.


Okie John

NYC and NY State both have income taxes. These taxes are a large part of the reason that so many companies have moved headquarters from NYC to NJ and why NY State now has a net loss of population each year. Seattle will learn, but it takes the dummies a bit longer to learn.

No offense, but most TN Democrats tend to be far more conservative than West Coast Republicans....

So where does that put me on the Ted Cruz-Texas scale?

Yes they do let them pay for their safe injection sites and tunnel.

Damn decent of them, no?

St.Louis city has an income tax ,If you work in or live in the city.

'Bout the same. Even though they're 1000 miles apart, you won't find many places more culturally similar than Texas and Tennessee. Honest question...have you lived in lib-land all your 36 years?

They are hell bent on ruining the state.
Ya let them pay for their stupid BS.

It happens here too. There are folks like Pugs & Denny that assimilate and the ones that don't. North Carolina and Texas have had politics change because of it. Our eastern panhandle is part of the beltway metro area.

We were out at the camp over the 4th and there were some folks plinking away on the other side of the valley. The owners of the camp owners to our west side (from DC) were ""very concerned". I pointed out to my wife how much better I felt about someone putting a few down range compared to when we're at home and the the next thing you know there would be a helo overhead. Oh, and then I put a couple mags out of the MK-II into my backstop just to make my point. Subtle point to the neighbors with the Hillary sticker.

One of the great draws to NH for us is the lack of big cities. Big cities tend to destroy all they touch. The countdown is on to us leaving this soul sucking state.

No wonder my ears were burning!

I've been here 27 years, and the hardest hard-core dems I've run into are natives, often well-heeled landowners. A couple used to come around during election cycles, pushing their nonsense, but I think I've got them trained to skip my house now. Bastids!

They should make all the money they need off the pot sales.
Course need and want are different, huh?

quit succeeding. problem solved. its worked for generations of city dwellers

I think K.C. does too.

You'd never make it in the river bottoms.

Well at least you got the sarcasm. Can't say the same for Pat.

Yep. They schitt their own nests making them unlivable then move into your's and proceed to schitt in it too. I would be hostile and unwelcoming to people I know moving in from such places until they prove they haven't brought their baggage with them.

Well after about 30 seconds, I believe you would buy me a beer!

Over 1/2 of NH's population lives in the southern 1/3 of the State, basically south of an east-west line drawn through Concord. No big cities, but a lot of urban sprawl, particularly along the I-93 and US-3 corridors. If you decide to live almost anywhere north of Concord, you are in rural/small town country that is pretty quiet except for tourists around the lake and mountains in the summer and around the ski areas in the winter. NH isn't a very large State, only 9,350 square miles, but the terrain dictates that the road network mostly follows the river valleys wherever it can, so travel tends to be a little slower than in many other States.

If I was going to move back there and was focusing on hunting/fishing opportunities, I'd take a look at the Bath/Lisbon/Woodsville area, close to both I-91 and I-93, or the Bristol/New Hampton/Plymouth area, close to I-93.

If you go on a retirement property prospecting trip, I highly recommend that you make time in your schedule to have dinner at Colatina Exit in Bradford, VT, just off I-91 and across the Connecticut River from Piermont, NH. They have the best Sicilian clam and mushroom soup that I've ever tasted, worth going out of your way for.

that's about $6K in taxes for someone making $250K a year.

I expect in Seattle they have some crazy cost of living but I doubt very few would move from the city just to get away from $6K.

Its alot of money but they aren't living in the suburbs to save $6K