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Surprise, surprise. Of course, no mention of being a damn American, loyalty to the country or respect for anyone who has fallen for that flag. Nope, it's about the money. Thank you for confirming what we already knew.

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Jerry met with the players Wednesday after practice, addressing the team for about 20 minutes, according to two sources. Multiple sources said he spoke matter-of-factly about why he wants to avoid any perception that the players on the Cowboys aren’t honoring the flag during the national anthem. The sources said Jerry addressed the potential of anthem protests affecting the business of the Dallas Cowboys either through poor TV ratings or the potential loss of advertising partners.
The reason we boycott businesses is to change their behavior to match our ideas by affecting their bottom line; the need to do so precludes their having the same ideas about things that we do.
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Jones told his players in their Wednesday meeting that his stance on the anthem is because he wants to play the bad guy and deflect attention from the rest of the team, reports ESPN.com's Todd Archer.


So, this is just a game where you're playing a role to fool the people??? Nice, you piece of crap.
A boycott, intentional or not, can have an impact.
Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
The reason we boycott businesses is to change their behavior to match our ideas by affecting their bottom line; the need to do so precludes their having the same ideas about things that we do.

I don't boycott their games to impact their bottom line. I boycott their games because I'm offended by their behavior. Them losing money is just a spiteful bonus.
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In the meeting, Jones sought to ensure that players also saw the BIGGER PICTURE regarding the business side of the situation, including concerns over TV ratings and sponsors, the source said.


So, the bigger picture has nothing to do with not being an un-American jackass.
How the players are perceived is more important than the substance of their beliefs.

Not surprised, it is just another arm of the Entertainment Industry , nothing more.
Maybe splitting hairs but all Cowboys were standing for the anthem- and no, I don't like this crap any more than anyone else does.

Most telling response to all this was the list of arrested NFL players over the past few years.

One positive out of this is the power of the purse in action. Some may slight Trump for stirring up a mess but at least he had the guts to stand up to it.
So how else can you get the message to the players? They are SJW heros, and feel they have the moral authority to protest. How do you make a point with them?

Tell 'em it is about to cost THEM money! Suddenly, personal finances override moral authority. Jerry doesn't have a lot of card to play here because they have agreement in the curret CBA. In other words, you can't make them stand respectfully. If he benches them over this, will there be repercussions with the Players Union? Not sure, but Jones can't fire them and can't fine them right now. He can put a team rule in that requires all Cowboys stand, but then you'll have a stink in the media if some fight it.
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Surprise, surprise. Of course, no mention of being a damn American, loyalty to the country or respect for anyone who has fallen for that flag. Nope, it's about the money. Thank you for confirming what we already knew.

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Jerry met with the players Wednesday after practice, addressing the team for about 20 minutes, according to two sources. Multiple sources said he spoke matter-of-factly about why he wants to avoid any perception that the players on the Cowboys aren’t honoring the flag during the national anthem. The sources said Jerry addressed the potential of anthem protests affecting the business of the Dallas Cowboys either through poor TV ratings or the potential loss of advertising partners.


Well, of course, it is. Capitalism is more American than the flag anyway.
Originally Posted by hatari
So how else can you get the message to the players? They are SJW heros, and feel they have the moral authority to protest. How do you make a point with them?

Yeah, be the adult in the room, and tell them the truth. And the truth is, their method of protest isn't working and it's wrong!!! Explain to these friggin idiots that if their goal to be promote more unity in this country, they shouldn't be spreading their message in such a way that offends millions of people and is completely counter productive to their goal. Explain to them, they they can have an opinon and if they want to express their opinion, there are countless reporters that will give them a camera and a microphone any time they want one, ON THEIR OWN TIME, and their message will be heard by millions. Explain to them that the damn flag doesn't represent racism or hate or whatever they think it does. It represents what's great about this country and what has given them the opportunity to make millions of dollars playing a damn game. And explain to them that countless people have died for that flag, so when they choose to link their protest with the flag, they're pissing on the graves of all the people who have given the ultimate sacrifice, so that THEY CAN PROTEST. Tell them the FUGKING TRUTH. And if they don't like it, be a friggin man and bench or fire their ass!!!
To be honest, the American Revolution was also about money, "No taxation without representation" By no means think I am not all FOR. honoring the Flag.
Originally Posted by wabigoon
To be honest, the American Revolution was also about money, "No taxation without representation" By no means think I am not all FOR. honoring the Flag.

I've read the Declaration of Independence several times. Taxation without representation is one accusation leveled at the King, but one among more than a dozen. Not to say your assertion is inaccurate, just that the comparison is woefully lacking.
If the deporables keep this up, it won't be profitable to get brain damage anymore.
Jerry Jones, as well as every other owner out there, are scared schittlesss of their own players. The tail is wagging the dog nowadays and the owners know it, and can do pretty much nothing about it in this day and age of guaranteed player contracts.

I sat next to a high powered lawyer from Dallas on the plane one day. The both of us were actually returning from Africa on the leg between Atlanta and Dallas. Don't remember how the subject got on the Cowboys, but his guy had done some work for the Jones family in the past. He confirmed they were pretty much trailer park trash, with money. I haven't like them since Tom Landry was fired anyway, as I can't stand Jimmy Johnson either, or Switzer for that matter.
All those dumb bastards should have thought of that to start with. This will leave a bad taste in people’s mouths for a long time!!!
They can say whatever they like. It's too late for amended behavior to make a difference to me. It has been made clear that we are the assailed party in a culture war and this is just a skirmish while the left hones their tactics .
This whole NFL thing reminds me of getting my mother-in-law buried.

We got there about an hour after she'd breathed her last. KYHillChick wanted to see her. I didn't, but I followed her anyway. She was already turning an icky shade of yellow-gray and was starting to stiffen up. Blech!

So they sent a hearse up to Cincinnati to drag her back to the County where all her kin live and we drove down in a couple of days to make arrangements. I couldn't imagine an open coffin, but KYHillChick wanted it done. The next time I saw my MIL was the visitation, and I have to say the mortician had done a bang-up job getting her looking presentable-- pink skin, rosy cheeks. I don't know if you've ever had this happen, but it's hard for a person to look at a dead body at a funeral, and not get the impression the corpse is breathing-- trick of the mind. Everyone said she looked so peaceful and all.

I was the head pall-bearer, and so I was there after the crowd had left. We were short a couple of guys that had been detained, and I was trying to figure out if we could get her out to the gravesite on dew-slick grass with just 4 guys. As I was going round the coffin, I caught a view of the head from a different angle. The mortician had done a good job up to about the ears and then stopped. Past that, the corpse as gray and lifeless as when I'd seen it in the home. I was more than happy to get that lid closed and be done with it.

Yep. That's about how I'm feeling with the NFL right about now. Get the lid closed. Get it in the ground. Let's hire a piper to play Highland Cathedral and then let's go get drunk with the cousins.
Fug ‘em!
Originally Posted by sawbuck
They can say whatever they like. It's too late for amended behavior to make a difference to me. It has been made clear that we are the assailed party in a culture war and this is just a skirmish while the left hones their tactics .

Yep. Agreed.
Originally Posted by shaman
This whole NFL thing reminds me of getting my mother-in-law buried.

We got there about an hour after she'd breathed her last. KYHillChick wanted to see her. I didn't, but I followed her anyway. She was already turning an icky shade of yellow-gray and was starting to stiffen up. Blech!

So they sent a hearse up to Cincinnati to drag her back to the County where all her kin live and we drove down in a couple of days to make arrangements. I couldn't imagine an open coffin, but KYHillChick wanted it done. The next time I saw my MIL was the visitation, and I have to say the mortician had done a bang-up job getting her looking presentable-- pink skin, rosy cheeks. I don't know if you've ever had this happen, but it's hard for a person to look at a dead body at a funeral, and not get the impression the corpse is breathing-- trick of the mind. Everyone said she looked so peaceful and all.

I was the head pall-bearer, and so I was there after the crowd had left. We were short a couple of guys that had been detained, and I was trying to figure out if we could get her out to the gravesite on dew-slick grass with just 4 guys. As I was going round the coffin, I caught a view of the head from a different angle. The mortician had done a good job up to about the ears and then stopped. Past that, the corpse as gray and lifeless as when I'd seen it in the home. I was more than happy to get that lid closed and be done with it.

Yep. That's about how I'm feeling with the NFL right about now. Get the lid closed. Get it in the ground. Let's hire a piper to play Highland Cathedral and then let's go get drunk with the cousins.


I'm with you, shaman. I don't drink anymore, but I'd toast that one with you.
Originally Posted by JGRaider
I sat next to a high powered lawyer from Dallas on the plane one day. The both of us were actually returning from Africa on the leg between Atlanta and Dallas. Don't remember how the subject got on the Cowboys, but his guy had done some work for the Jones family in the past. He confirmed they were pretty much trailer park trash, with money. I haven't like them since Tom Landry was fired anyway, as I can't stand Jimmy Johnson either, or Switzer for that matter.


I'm a lifelong Steelers fan and I would concur with your opinion about Jerry Jones --- and just about every Texan I ever met --- trailer trash and uneducated as a bag of used rubbers!

NFL will weather this storm and keep on chuggin' as America's favorite sport. Trump and Jones will be pushing daisies for many decades before the NFL even starts to think about posting a proft loss.
Originally Posted by CrackaJack85
I'm a lifelong Steelers fan and I would concur with your opinion about Jerry Jones --- and just about every Texan I ever met --- trailer trash and uneducated as a bag of used rubbers!

NFL will weather this storm and keep on chuggin' as America's favorite sport. Trump and Jones will be pushing daisies for many decades before the NFL even starts to think about posting a proft loss.

Pulling up chair and bag of popcorn...
Cracker Jack be having pubic hair on his head
Originally Posted by Tracks
Cracker Jack be having pubic hair on his head


Dog whistle to the white nationalist "base" --- you Trump Trolls are good at those --- prolly the only thing you're good at besides holding a Tiki Torch LOL
Sensitive about that hair huh?
Originally Posted by kenjs1
Maybe splitting hairs but all Cowboys were standing for the anthem- and no, I don't like this crap any more than anyone else does.

Most telling response to all this was the list of arrested NFL players over the past few years.

One positive out of this is the power of the purse in action. Some may slight Trump for stirring up a mess but at least he had the guts to stand up to it.


He didn't stir up this mess. The NFL did by not taking care of Kapernik a couple years ago. I stopped watching it last year because of him and stopped this year when I saw a guy sitting on a bench eating a banana during the Anthem. If they loose money I couldn't care less.
Originally Posted by Ringman
He didn't stir up this mess. The NFL did by not taking care of Kapernik a couple years ago. I stopped watching it last year because of him and stopped this year when I saw a guy sitting on a bench eating a banana during the Anthem. If they loose money I couldn't care less.


You sound like a typical crybaby Trump-Tard .... go put on a fresh pair of panties and get back to watching soccer or synchronized swimming LOL
FU JJ!!!!!
Originally Posted by CrackaJack85
Originally Posted by Ringman
He didn't stir up this mess. The NFL did by not taking care of Kapernik a couple years ago. I stopped watching it last year because of him and stopped this year when I saw a guy sitting on a bench eating a banana during the Anthem. If they loose money I couldn't care less.


You sound like a typical crybaby Trump-Tard .... go put on a fresh pair of panties and get back to watching soccer or synchronized swimming LOL

Put a couple of 40s on your mama's welfare card and slow your roll boy.
It has always been about the money. The NFL is there to may owners rich.
. . . and another thing:

Back around 9/11/2001, I was having back trouble-- upper back spasms that would knock me down to my knees. The doc gave me some muscle relaxants for when they got bad. I did not take them often and got off them as soon as possible, because they made me weepy and weird.

So 9/11 comes around and everyone spazzes out. Rightfully so; it was our generation's Pearl Harbor moment. They go to have the first big NFL game (maybe Giants at home (?)), while the twin towers was still smouldering and I'd had a back spasm earlier in the day and was in bed on one of the pills. If I remember, they pulled out all the stops for this one-- a field-sized flag, jets flying over, the works. I was high on the pills and it set me off. I'm weeping like a child, getting all patriotic, and then the network broke for a local commercial and it was some completely mundane car ad. Reality came crashing in.

The thought occured to me: This is theatre. You're getting your buttons pushed. This is entertainment in the guise of patriotism. This is not genuine. Somebody wants you to be all choked up right now.

Now don't get me wrong. I dig/dug the NFL. I've never been a hater. Although, there was about 10 years there around college, where I hardly watched. Even after this happened, I didn't feel bitter. However, I realized that all this patriotism and chest beating, and hand-over-the-heart schtick was all inserted at the beginning of games to sell beer, sell trucks, and sell the NFL. That's all it's there for on Sunday afternoon. That's all the reason it was ever there. If they could have sold more beer and trucks having a pre-game dwarf tossing contest, they'd have done that instead.

I'm just saying.
I hear what you're saying, but what it all means to them is different than what it all means to some of us. That's where the anger comes from. We're pissed because they're running around trying to figure out how to "fix" this. And as you said, they are looking for a means to an end, a path to the bottom line. Which many of us know is completely disingenuous. Some of us just WANT to see them do the right thing, because it's the right thing to do. Yet they keep leaving breadcrumbs everywhere that tell us, they don't know or care what the right thing really is.

And that brings me back to something my Dad used to tell me- you can't buy integrity, you just have to have it.
Originally Posted by sawbuck
They can say whatever they like. It's too late for amended behavior to make a difference to me. It has been made clear that we are the assailed party in a culture war and this is just a skirmish while the left hones their tactics .



sawbuck, this seems close to my reaction to the blatant disrespect of some NFL players.

I'll explain:
I don't see how their behavior can be "fixed" or "amended" to get me back as a fan in the near future?!
Yes the players could be made to stand showing respect,

But It will all ways be remand of their piss-poor actions and
won't trust that they are genuinely respectful;
Just standing, etc. to avoid some kind of punishment.

.......REALITY .....is a bitch.

America told you all to f-off.

Load the Leftist clown car and head to the nearest port
to sail for your Socialist Utopia.....if you can find it.

You should really be mad at whoever brainwashed you.


(Filthy Liberal Cultural Marxist) Democrats suffered a net loss
of 1,042 state and federal posts,
including congressional and
state legislative seats, governorships
and the presidency during
"Pres-i-who?" Barack Obama's
eight years in office...

Democratic U.S. Senate
seats dropped from 55-46,
while their share of the House
went from 256 seats to 194.
Democratic governorships went from 28 to 16.
Some 958 state legislative seats were lost by the Democrats.
Republican Donald Trump was elected president

Originally Posted by shaman
The thought occured to me: This is theatre. You're getting your buttons pushed. This is entertainment in the guise of patriotism. This is not genuine. Somebody wants you to be all choked up right now.

Now don't get me wrong. I dig/dug the NFL. I've never been a hater. Although, there was about 10 years there around college, where I hardly watched. Even after this happened, I didn't feel bitter. However, I realized that all this patriotism and chest beating, and hand-over-the-heart schtick was all inserted at the beginning of games to sell beer, sell trucks, and sell the NFL. That's all it's there for on Sunday afternoon. That's all the reason it was ever there. If they could have sold more beer and trucks having a pre-game dwarf tossing contest, they'd have done that instead.


It's nice to see someone in here besides filthy masses of brainwashed, uneducated Trump-Tards who can't think for themselves and need to do a stupid "Seig Heil, Seig Heil" at every Trump rally to pretend they're "patriots".

My Dad fought in the steamy 'Nam jungles from '68-'71 and came back and started his own construction business and did well for himself. Never dwelled on "fake patriotism" to help him deal with the horrors of war and PTSD and all that stuff. My Dad was smart enough to know that REAL patriotism comes from supporting your country and it's ideals and all that stands for --- good or bad. He's smart enough to know that the flag represents the Constitution --- NOT the military or police or whatever whimsical symbol the right-wing loudmouths claim it is. NFL players taking a knee for social injustice represent the ideals of the Constitution a HELLUVA lot more than some racist white cop beating up a black motorist just because his KKK chapter tells him it's "the right thing to do" when you got a gun and a badge to make you feel macho that night.

And my Dad sure as hell doesn't appreciate it when a SIX-TIME draft-dodging COWARD P*SSY-GRABBER Trump tries to tell a country how to be patriotic! If Trump ever visited our house, my Dad got 2 knuckle sandwiches waiting for that cowardly silver-spooned Commie crybaby !! Pop goes the weasel, baby!
Originally Posted by CrackaJack85
It's nice to see someone in here besides filthy masses of brainwashed, uneducated Trump-Tards who can't think for themselves and need to do a stupid "Seig Heil, Seig Heil" at every Trump rally to pretend they're "patriots".

My Dad fought in the steamy 'Nam jungles from '68-'71 and came back and started his own construction business and did well for himself. Never dwelled on "fake patriotism" to help him deal with the horrors of war and PTSD and all that stuff. My Dad was smart enough to know that REAL patriotism comes from supporting your country and it's ideals and all that stands for --- good or bad. He's smart enough to know that the flag represents the Constitution --- NOT the military or police or whatever whimsical symbol the right-wing loudmouths claim it is. NFL players taking a knee for social injustice represent the ideals of the Constitution a HELLUVA lot more than some racist white cop beating up a black motorist just because his KKK chapter tells him it's "the right thing to do" when you got a gun and a badge to make you feel macho that night.

And my Dad sure as hell doesn't appreciate it when a SIX-TIME draft-dodging COWARD P*SSY-GRABBER Trump tries to tell a country how to be patriotic! If Trump ever visited our house, my Dad got 2 knuckle sandwiches waiting for that cowardly silver-spooned Commie crybaby !! Pop goes the weasel, baby!


You must be from Oregon. Only explanation.
Originally Posted by Crack Head Jack
I'm a lifelong Steelers fan and I would concur with your opinion about Jerry Jones --- and just about every Texan I ever met --- trailer trash and uneducated as a bag of used rubbers!
NFL will weather this storm and keep on chuggin' as America's favorite sport. Trump and Jones will be pushing daisies for many decades before the NFL even starts to think about posting a proft loss.


Crack Head Jack
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Originally Posted by Crack Head Jack

H o r s e S h i t.



Crack Head Jack
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Originally Posted by bigfish9684
You must be from Oregon. Only explanation.


Ohio actually --- but keep believing all those Faux News bubblehead delusions if it makes you feel better about yourself grin

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boy you are really pussy hurt. Hillary lost get over it!!!!! meant for crackpack
Originally Posted by boatammo
boy you are really pussy hurt. Hillary lost get over it!!!!! meant for crackpack


Here's one for ya, Pussy Face:


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Originally Posted by Crack Head Jack


H o r s e S h i t.




Crack Head Jack
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Originally Posted by CrackaJack85
You sound like a typical crybaby Trump-Tard .... go put on a fresh pair of panties and get back to watching soccer or synchronized swimming LOL


You are one of the Progressive Fascists who are dedicated to the destruction of our country so you can build your utopia in the ruins. A utopia where you rule a one party state and through it control every aspect of society without liberty. Your utopia is identical in every significant respect to the utopias created by Communists, Nazis, and Muslims and it would be just as evil.

You believe that the ends justify the means. Soon you will be throwing your enemies babies into bonfires just like your buddies in the Third Reich.
Originally Posted by CrackaJack85
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It's nice to see someone in here besides filthy masses of brainwashed, uneducated Trump-Tards who can't think for themselves and need to do a stupid "Seig Heil, Seig Heil" at every Trump rally to pretend they're "patriots".

My Dad fought in the steamy 'Nam jungles from '68-'71 and came back and started his own construction business and did well for himself. Never dwelled on "fake patriotism" to help him deal with the horrors of war and PTSD and all that stuff. My Dad was smart enough to know that REAL patriotism comes from supporting your country and it's ideals and all that stands for --- good or bad. He's smart enough to know that the flag represents the Constitution --- NOT the military or police or whatever whimsical symbol the right-wing loudmouths claim it is. NFL players taking a knee for social injustice represent the ideals of the Constitution a HELLUVA lot more than some racist white cop beating up a black motorist just because his KKK chapter tells him it's "the right thing to do" when you got a gun and a badge to make you feel macho that night.

And my Dad sure as hell doesn't appreciate it when a SIX-TIME draft-dodging COWARD P*SSY-GRABBER Trump tries to tell a country how to be patriotic! If Trump ever visited our house, my Dad got 2 knuckle sandwiches waiting for that cowardly silver-spooned Commie crybaby !! Pop goes the weasel, baby!


I think you're confusing me with someone who agrees with you. Thank your Dad for his service from me.

As to the rest of what you wrote, I known a lot of cops, and a lot of vets, and one or two KKK members. The KKK members were ignorant goons. The cops and vets were, on the whole, gentlemen.

As to Donald Trump, he has my full support on this NFL thing as well as most other matters.

You, sir, appear to me to be seriously misinformed and I find your resulting opinions delusional and therefore inconsequential. If you continue with these rantings, I will be forced to put you on ignore. As a connoisseur of bizarre thought, this is something I do rarely. However, you've managed to convince even me of your unredeemable repugnancy.
Originally Posted by ConradCA
Originally Posted by CrackaJack85
You sound like a typical crybaby Trump-Tard .... go put on a fresh pair of panties and get back to watching soccer or synchronized swimming LOL


You are one of the Progressive Fascists who are dedicated to the destruction of our country so you can build your utopia in the ruins. A utopia where you rule a one party state and through it control every aspect of society without liberty.


The crazy thing about useful idiots like BLM, Antifa, and of course our newest troll, is that they do not realize that if they ever created that utopia, it would only be for the people at the top of the regime....examples being Stalin, Mao, and Rocket man. Once useful idiots outlive their usefulness, their lives suck under a commie system as history has proven time and again.
Yes, "Some animals are more equal than others".
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
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Jones told his players in their Wednesday meeting that his stance on the anthem is because he wants to play the bad guy and deflect attention from the rest of the team, reports ESPN.com's Todd Archer.


So, this is just a game where you're playing a role to fool the people??? Nice, you piece of crap.



Id hate to bet on espn being truthfull.
Originally Posted by CrackaJack85
Originally Posted by boatammo
boy you are really pussy hurt. Hillary lost get over it!!!!! meant for crackpack


Here's one for ya, Pussy Face:


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Zero never had the balls to try that with any of our nations enemies. Iirc he kissed ass on muzzies and commies, his pals.
Originally Posted by CrackaJack85
Originally Posted by shaman
The thought occured to me: This is theatre. You're getting your buttons pushed. This is entertainment in the guise of patriotism. This is not genuine. Somebody wants you to be all choked up right now.

Now don't get me wrong. I dig/dug the NFL. I've never been a hater. Although, there was about 10 years there around college, where I hardly watched. Even after this happened, I didn't feel bitter. However, I realized that all this patriotism and chest beating, and hand-over-the-heart schtick was all inserted at the beginning of games to sell beer, sell trucks, and sell the NFL. That's all it's there for on Sunday afternoon. That's all the reason it was ever there. If they could have sold more beer and trucks having a pre-game dwarf tossing contest, they'd have done that instead.


It's nice to see someone in here besides filthy masses of brainwashed, uneducated Trump-Tards who can't think for themselves and need to do a stupid "Seig Heil, Seig Heil" at every Trump rally to pretend they're "patriots".

My Dad fought in the steamy 'Nam jungles from '68-'71 and came back and started his own construction business and did well for himself. Never dwelled on "fake patriotism" to help him deal with the horrors of war and PTSD and all that stuff. My Dad was smart enough to know that REAL patriotism comes from supporting your country and it's ideals and all that stands for --- good or bad. He's smart enough to know that the flag represents the Constitution --- NOT the military or police or whatever whimsical symbol the right-wing loudmouths claim it is. NFL players taking a knee for social injustice represent the ideals of the Constitution a HELLUVA lot more than some racist white cop beating up a black motorist just because his KKK chapter tells him it's "the right thing to do" when you got a gun and a badge to make you feel macho that night.

And my Dad sure as hell doesn't appreciate it when a SIX-TIME draft-dodging COWARD P*SSY-GRABBER Trump tries to tell a country how to be patriotic! If Trump ever visited our house, my Dad got 2 knuckle sandwiches waiting for that cowardly silver-spooned Commie crybaby !! Pop goes the weasel, baby!


What do you know, Remington6MM does have a daughter.
Originally Posted by CrackaJack85
Originally Posted by Tracks
Cracker Jack be having pubic hair on his head


Dog whistle to the white nationalist "base" --- you Trump Trolls are good at those --- prolly the only thing you're good at besides holding a Tiki Torch LOL



Here bees yo "man", crackhead.
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
So, this is just a game where you're playing a role to fool the people???


More like to the fool people.
Originally Posted by Calvin
If the deporables keep this up, it won't be profitable to get brain damage anymore.



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