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Ann Coulter makes a case for Paddock being a black market firearms dealer, based on the story the media has laid out that his millions of dollars came impossibly from video poker winnings.



http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-10-11.html#read_more
Years ago I was in the high-stakes slot machine area at a local casino. There was a biker dude with his olive oyle girlfriend playing machines across from me. Olive was grabbing five $100 bills from dude and pumping them onto a slot machine faster than the speed of light. Knew exactly what they were doing...
Her story is as good as the ones they want us to believe.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Her story is as good as the ones they want us to believe.

+1...
I'd like to know what/when/where he was flying in his "private planes"... I wondered about CIA/cartels from the get go.
What was being reported didn't add up from day one...

and went down hill from there...

After watching the media report the shooting at Umpqua Comm College
creating "FACTS", as they went along and then changing them over and over
before they ever released the broadcast...

and they were being TOLD what to report, by their home offices via computer
on the spot...

I trust what the media tells us as far as I can throw Texas...

We are being told what whoever is in charge want us to think happen..

and it definitely fits an agenda...usually a democRAT one..
Coulter is a hag interested in one thing, her relevancy.
I don’t believe that crap
Her story is more believable than the continual changing story that is being put out by others.
All the stories are bogus. These hotels and casinos have cameras covering every square inch of the properties except for inside the guest rooms. Everything is recorded and time stamped, so LEO knows exactly what the timeline is. Las Vegas is all about Las Vegas and the LEO there is owned by the hotel casino industry. They say frog, and the chiefs and supervisors turn green and hop around.

We will never know exactly what happened. The tourist industry can't stand the truth hitting the light of day.
Great article.
Originally Posted by windridge
All the stories are bogus. These hotels and casinos have cameras covering every square inch of the properties except for inside the guest rooms. Everything is recorded and time stamped, so LEO knows exactly what the timeline is. Las Vegas is all about Las Vegas and the LEO there is owned by the hotel casino industry. They say frog, and the chiefs and supervisors turn green and hop around.

We will never know exactly what happened. The tourist industry can't stand the truth hitting the light of day.

I think this pretty much sums it up. But the "What happened and why?" still needs to be pursued, particularly if this event is being used as a justification to steal more of the American public's rights. The media aren't going to do it, and LE aren't going to it. The people are going to have to do it, and keep bringing up the uncomfortable questions until authorities are forced admit the narratives they concoct are false. This in an exercise of the First Amendment in order to keep government in check. It is all of our responsibility.
That's why we have Alex Jones. That guy is a paragon of intellectual curiosity and honesty......He'll get to the bottom of what really happened.
Very interesting points she makes...
Ann is grasping at straws.
It's as good or better as any I've heard.

The part about Paddock making a good living gambling? That's a bone they threw to the gambling industry in exchange for the hotel losing all the video footage, you know, the video footage we haven't seen or heard anything about. At least I haven't.
I saw a report on a lawsuit Paddock was involved in. In his deposition, he stated that he played video slots 14 hours a day, 365 days a year.

I'd like to know where he got all the money to do that. Vegas wasn't built on winners and that's especially true with electronic gambling.

ETA: After reading TFA, I see Ann is wondering the same thing. smile
Originally Posted by BarryC
I saw a report on a lawsuit Paddock was involved in. In his deposition, he stated that he played video slots 14 hours a day, 365 days a year.

I'd like to know where he got all the money to do that. Vegas wasn't built on winners and that's especially true with electronic gambling.

Slots are a terrible gamble anyway. The only chance you have honestly, is with Blackjack and that's if you play perfectly and count cards. You up your odds from like losing 50 cents on every hundred dollars with perfect Basic Strategy to winning $1 for every hundred wagered if you play perfect Basic and have a viable up and down variance and an accurate count-all legal in Nevada but still will get you banned by the Casino if you're caught. Casino's love card counters.
Originally Posted by BarryC
I saw a report on a lawsuit Paddock was involved in. In his deposition, he stated that he played video slots 14 hours a day, 365 days a year.

I'd like to know where he got all the money to do that. Vegas wasn't built on winners and that's especially true with electronic gambling.

ETA: After reading TFA, I see Ann is wondering the same thing. smile
The first story put out was that he was a video poker player. Odds on that would be a lot more fluid.
The guy had amassed a modest fortune in real estate. Gambling was just a hobby for him, not a livelihood. Ann is way off track.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
The guy had amassed a modest fortune in real estate. Gambling was just a hobby for him, not a livelihood. Ann is way off track.

You "know" huh? I'm sure. Nevertheless, the media is reporting that he won millions by playing poker slots.
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
The guy had amassed a modest fortune in real estate. Gambling was just a hobby for him, not a livelihood. Ann is way off track.

You "know" huh? I'm sure. Nevertheless, the media is reporting that he won millions by playing poker slots.


The media has also reported that he had amassed a modest fortune in real estate. Believe what you want.
Smells a little "Swampy" to me.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by BarryC
I saw a report on a lawsuit Paddock was involved in. In his deposition, he stated that he played video slots 14 hours a day, 365 days a year.

I'd like to know where he got all the money to do that. Vegas wasn't built on winners and that's especially true with electronic gambling.

Slots are a terrible gamble anyway. The only chance you have honestly, is with Blackjack and that's if you play perfectly and count cards. You up your odds from like losing 50 cents on every hundred dollars with perfect Basic Strategy to winning $1 for every hundred wagered if you play perfect Basic and have a viable up and down variance and an accurate count-all legal in Nevada but still will get you banned by the Casino if you're caught. Casino's love card counters.


The chance you have to honestly make money is poker.
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
The guy had amassed a modest fortune in real estate. Gambling was just a hobby for him, not a livelihood. Ann is way off track.

You "know" huh? I'm sure. Nevertheless, the media is reporting that he won millions by playing poker slots.


The media has also reported that he had amassed a modest fortune in real estate. Believe what you want.


There ain't no way someone is going to gamble 14 hrs a day, 365 days a year on a "modest fortune."
Originally Posted by BarryC
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
The guy had amassed a modest fortune in real estate. Gambling was just a hobby for him, not a livelihood. Ann is way off track.

You "know" huh? I'm sure. Nevertheless, the media is reporting that he won millions by playing poker slots.


The media has also reported that he had amassed a modest fortune in real estate. Believe what you want.


There ain't no way someone is going to gamble 14 hrs a day, 365 days a year on a "modest fortune."


Nope!

Especially a fortune in real estate...unless he sold all his real estate off and was gambling away all the cash the IRS didn't take...

He wouldn't be making much monthly fortunes just owning a couple properties.
I don't believe someone with a couple million $$ has enough to gamble every day for years.
http://time.com/money/4969462/las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-gambler-real-estate-guns/
Originally Posted by BarryC

There ain't no way someone is going to gamble 14 hrs a day, 365 days a year on a "modest fortune."


Unless you know you're planning to stick a gun in your mouth, and leave the show early.
I read somewhere that George Soros (very liberal Clinton/Obama supporter) shorted MGM stock the day before the shooting and made $42 million dollars.

http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=G...e+soros+shorting+MGM+stock&FORM=EWRE

Was this a paid assassin? Why, because Soros doesn't want anyone but the government to have guns, so they can ultimately control the people.
Originally Posted by broomd
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Her story is as good as the ones they want us to believe.

+1...


add another +1
This shooting is a lot worse than I thought.
Not only 59 dead and hundreds wounded but thousands of Americans have gone bat chit crazy.
Talk about collateral damage.
There are a lot of opinions about the shooting, and ya know what they say about opinions---

Watched the news conference today, Sheriff seemed pissed all the speculation. er, opinions
All this dudes life he's been 'brain whipped' by his old man! Old man was supposedly a bank robber...a bad ass! He left his ole lady with four kids and if the truth known...he beat the living schitt out of the kids and Ole Paddock has been mulling this over all his life! Been lying dormant a long time but finally it all came to the surface with the realization that he (Paddock) would 'show his ole man up' by killing a bunch of folks! The bastard was bored stiff; more $$$$$ than he could spend and he was tired of living! This was his way of.....hitting the big time!!
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
The guy had amassed a modest fortune in real estate.
Gambling was just a hobby for him, not a livelihood. Ann is way off track.


common sense prevails.

Originally Posted by fburgtx
I'd like to know what/when/where he was flying in his "private planes"... I wondered about CIA/cartels from the get go.


He didn't have his PPL(A) active since 2008, likely he aint been flyin' anywhere.

conspiracy types will suggest he used his rented hangar space as a gun running storage facility... whistle
You *can* win at video poker, if you know when to quit.

This loser, didn't.

That bein said, he was playin high return machines, 99.7%.

Outta 100,000 wagered, over time, he got a return of 99,700, losin $300.

Casino comps give ya back 3-4 hundred a day, at the inflated prices they charge.

Losin $300/hr x 14 hours = $4,200 day.

Dependin on how many millions and the return thereon, he's eatin inta principal, but don't care.

Money launderin theory is bullshit, small crook needs to, not the legit millionaire, if he was.

And, if he *was* gun runnin', he'd damn sure not hafta rely on a chump-fire stock to shoot fast.
Yea no way he was making millions on video poker without th knolage of the casino.....wether he was an arms dealer ? I doubt that...
If he was he wouldn't have used bump stocks . He would have had access to full auto....y would he care about the difference or the cost...he was about to commit a much worse crime...
Originally Posted by PrimeBeef
The guy had amassed a modest fortune in real estate. Gambling was just a hobby for him, not a livelihood. Ann is way off track.


Did you see his tax returns?

That's what I thought, another MSM swallower.
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
This shooting is a lot worse than I thought.
Not only 59 dead and hundreds wounded but thousands of Americans have gone bat chit crazy.
Talk about collateral damage.



Thank God, you haven't.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
You *can* win at video poker, if you know when to quit.

This loser, didn't.

That bein said, he was playin high return machines, 99.7%.
.


.3% house edge, thats even better for players than blackjack, which is about .5%

Ive witnessed many baccarat players make a fortune against a house edge of 1 - 1.25%
but typically Ive also witnessed such hardcore fearless types poor it all back....at $50,000 +
per hand it don't tale long.. grin
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
This shooting is a lot worse than I thought.
Not only 59 dead and hundreds wounded but thousands of Americans have gone bat chit crazy.
Talk about collateral damage.

You ain't kidding!


Besides the Sheriff says the time 2159 was not wrong just the events associated with it! Holy hell!
money laundering
Originally Posted by Sharpsman
All this dudes life he's been 'brain whipped' by his old man! Old man was supposedly a bank robber...a bad ass! He left his ole lady with four kids and if the truth known...he beat the living schitt out of the kids and Ole Paddock has been mulling this over all his life! Been lying dormant a long time but finally it all came to the surface with the realization that he (Paddock) would 'show his ole man up' by killing a bunch of folks! The bastard was bored stiff; more $$$$$ than he could spend and he was tired of living! This was his way of.....hitting the big time!!


That's a decent theory based upon what's currently known to the public.
People who gamble crave stimulation.
Regardless of how many theories are out there, and the fact that the guy is a whack job, THERE IS AN AGENDA with this shooting. We just don't know for a fact what it is yet. But a person, sane or insane, doesn't amass an arsenal that big and premeditate every detail of the act, and go through the extensive effort he did, weeks or months in advance, without a mission. My guess it's one of 3 possibilities:

1. He's an anti Trump guy who wanted to kill a bunch of redneck country fans
2. He's actually an anti gun guy who wanted to light a massive fire under the whole gun control issue
3. He just wanted to go out in a blaze of glory and had some twisted need for infamy
Originally Posted by Bristoe
money laundering


Bingo
I think if he was an anti-gun guy he'd had a bunch of department store or cheap-assed ARs.. IMO he was definitely a gun guy.
Originally Posted by BarryC
I saw a report on a lawsuit Paddock was involved in. In his deposition, he stated that he played video slots 14 hours a day, 365 days a year.

I'd like to know where he [Paddock] got all the money to do that. Vegas wasn't built on winners and that's especially true with electronic gambling. ...


Yep. My nephew works in Las Vegas as a dealer at one of the most high end casino/hotels there. Been there many years. I asked him once if he gambled? he said "Hell no. Vegas is there for one reason: to take your money."

Makes one wonder why people think they can beat Vegas.

L.W.


Originally Posted by Fubarski
You *can* win at video poker, if you know when to quit.

This loser, didn't.

That bein said, he was playin high return machines, 99.7%.

Outta 100,000 wagered, over time, he got a return of 99,700, losin $300.

Casino comps give ya back 3-4 hundred a day, at the inflated prices they charge.

Losin $300/hr x 14 hours = $4,200 day.

Dependin on how many millions and the return thereon, he's eatin inta principal, but don't care.

Money launderin theory is bullshit, small crook needs to, not the legit millionaire, if he was.

And, if he *was* gun runnin', he'd damn sure not hafta rely on a chump-fire stock to shoot fast.




I'd say they more than made up the comps on the last meal; $26.00 cheeseburger and $10 pepsi that he shared with the hooker.
Just shooting at the tanks makes it seem like a novice deal. But maybe that was part of the deception!
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Regardless of how many theories are out there, and the fact that the guy is a whack job, THERE IS AN AGENDA with this shooting. We just don't know for a fact what it is yet. But a person, sane or insane, doesn't amass an arsenal that big and premeditate every detail of the act, and go through the extensive effort he did, weeks or months in advance, without a mission. My guess it's one of 3 possibilities:

1. He's an anti Trump guy who wanted to kill a bunch of redneck country fans
2. He's actually an anti gun guy who wanted to light a massive fire under the whole gun control issue
3. He just wanted to go out in a blaze of glory and had some twisted need for infamy


Best theories I have seen so far. I'm leaning towards a combination of all three that you listed above. And I've said all a long since day one that this nut job was probably a Anti Trump fanatic. And Ann Coulter is just blowing hot air as usual.
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
This shooting is a lot worse than I thought.
Not only 59 dead and hundreds wounded but thousands of Americans have gone bat chit crazy.
Talk about collateral damage.


Bat chit crazy is pretty mild compared to some of the "theories" that've been posted lately.

I used to find it amusing. Now, I'm actually a bit worried.
Originally Posted by MadMooner
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
This shooting is a lot worse than I thought.
Not only 59 dead and hundreds wounded but thousands of Americans have gone bat chit crazy.
Talk about collateral damage.


Bat chit crazy is pretty mild compared to some of the "theories" that've been posted lately.

I used to find it amusing. Now, I'm actually a bit worried.


You have reason to be worried.

I don't see it ending any time soon either. If anything it's getting worse.
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Originally Posted by MadMooner
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
This shooting is a lot worse than I thought.
Not only 59 dead and hundreds wounded but thousands of Americans have gone bat chit crazy.
Talk about collateral damage.


Bat chit crazy is pretty mild compared to some of the "theories" that've been posted lately.

I used to find it amusing. Now, I'm actually a bit worried.


You have reason to be worried.

I don't see it ending any time soon either. If anything it's getting worse.

A few were expected but there's been some surprises!
I haven't read Coulter's article, but some of the bread crumbs sprinkled about could lead one to assume that was Paddock's role in this scenario, or how it was intended to be portrayed...the problem is that she doesn't have any inside details.

The big problem with all these theories is that they buy into the official story that Paddock is the "Vegas Shooter" in all his full regalia.... From the evidence I see so far, the only proven fact is that his body was found in a hotel room staged with a pile of guns and such.

Considering the lag time between the incident and the first official press conference several hours later was spent by the various agencies gathered in a room being told the "approved story as fit for public consumption and how they are going to spin it"

But aside from the media distortions, and all the evidence the agencies are holding back and lying about, I think one of the reasons this scenario doesn't make sense on the face is that whatever it was, it was a blown op that went down before everything could unfold as originally planned.

That's also why the casualty count is lower than one would expect.

At this point it's all just "Theatre of the Absurd".
Any idea whom was telling the agencies what the spin would be?

Originally Posted by Boogaloo
I haven't read Coulter's article, but some of the bread crumbs sprinkled about could lead one to assume that was Paddock's role in this scenario, or how it was intended to be portrayed...the problem is that she doesn't have any inside details.

Considering the time between the end of the incident and the first first press conference several hours later was spent by the various agencies gathered in a room being told the "story fit for public consumption and how they are going to spin it"

But aside from the media distortions, and all the evidence the agencies are holding back and lying about, I think one of the reasons this scenario doesn't make sense on the face is that the op was blown, and went off before everything could unfold as it was originally planned.

That's also why the casualty count is lower than one would expect.

At this point it's all just "Theatre of the Absurd".
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any idea whom was telling the agencies what the spin would be?


They all assembled in a designated room and got their directive from a mystery voice emitting from a speaker phone... grin

they must allow a call on ext.3 to ring six times before answering it...in the old days they would just provide a tape to Jim,


Originally Posted by Seafire
What was being reported didn't add up from day one...

and went down hill from there...

After watching the media report the shooting at Umpqua Comm College
creating "FACTS", as they went along and then changing them over and over
before they ever released the broadcast...

and they were being TOLD what to report, by their home offices via computer
on the spot...

I trust what the media tells us as far as I can throw Texas...

We are being told what whoever is in charge want us to think happen..

and it definitely fits an agenda...usually a democRAT one..




The whole thing reads like the plot from Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Matthew Bracken.

No one goes through the effort of planning target selection and logistics for months to pull something off like this without outside assistance and a plan to use it as a pretext for something else. Why were Boston and Chitcago considered for massacres and dropped in favor of LV?

Democraps are the only lifeforms that can benefit from incidents like this.
I know one of the owners of one of the Vegas firearms dealers where he bought several guns. Guns were purchased via normal 4473 process. Black market dealers do not go to local stores and buy retail.
It would be speculation at this point...
Originally Posted by TBREW401
There are a lot of opinions about the shooting, and ya know what they say about opinions---

Watched the news conference today, Sheriff seemed pissed all the speculation. er, opinions



He was lying throughout the conference, and so was the local FBI agent. They have their marching orders from the hotel/casino powers, and that's why all the double-talk and backtracking now. I interviewed enough people in my lifetime and employment to spot deception, and they both were nervous and deceptive.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any idea whom was telling the agencies what the spin would be?

Originally Posted by Boogaloo
I haven't read Coulter's article, but some of the bread crumbs sprinkled about could lead one to assume that was Paddock's role in this scenario, or how it was intended to be portrayed...the problem is "that she doesn't have any inside details.

Considering the time between the end of the incident and the first first press conference several hours later was spent by the various agencies gathered in a room being told the "story fit for public consumption and how they are going to spin it"

But aside from the media distortions, and all the evidence the agencies are holding back and lying about, I think one of the reasons this scenario doesn't make sense on the face is that the op was blown, and went off before everything could unfold as it was originally planned.

That's also why the casualty count is lower than one would expect.

At this point it's all just "Theatre of the Absurd".



Why don't we try" Who" was telling the agencies. The subject vs the object.
Originally Posted by kroo88
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Any idea whom was telling the agencies what the spin would be?

Originally Posted by Boogaloo
I haven't read Coulter's article, but some of the bread crumbs sprinkled about could lead one to assume that was Paddock's role in this scenario, or how it was intended to be portrayed...the problem is "that she doesn't have any inside details.

Considering the time between the end of the incident and the first first press conference several hours later was spent by the various agencies gathered in a room being told the "story fit for public consumption and how they are going to spin it"

But aside from the media distortions, and all the evidence the agencies are holding back and lying about, I think one of the reasons this scenario doesn't make sense on the face is that the op was blown, and went off before everything could unfold as it was originally planned.

That's also why the casualty count is lower than one would expect.

At this point it's all just "Theatre of the Absurd".



Why don't we try" Who" was telling the agencies. The subject vs the object.

Huhhh? LOL

Could you please 'splain Democrat vs Democratic?


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Money Laundering.

That's how Paddock made his fortune.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by OutlawPatriot
Regardless of how many theories are out there, and the fact that the guy is a whack job, THERE IS AN AGENDA with this shooting. We just don't know for a fact what it is yet. But a person, sane or insane, doesn't amass an arsenal that big and premeditate every detail of the act, and go through the extensive effort he did, weeks or months in advance, without a mission. My guess it's one of 3 possibilities:

1. He's an anti Trump guy who wanted to kill a bunch of redneck country fans
2. He's actually an anti gun guy who wanted to light a massive fire under the whole gun control issue
3. He just wanted to go out in a blaze of glory and had some twisted need for infamy


Best theories I have seen so far. I'm leaning towards a combination of all three that you listed above. And I've said all a long since day one that this nut job was probably a Anti Trump fanatic. And Ann Coulter is just blowing hot air as usual.


The most sensible explanation I've read since this caper unfolded and likely a combination of all three.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Money Laundering.

That's how Paddock made his fortune.


This was my initial thought, but what do I know.
Originally Posted by Prwlr
Originally Posted by broomd
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Her story is as good as the ones they want us to believe.

+1...


add another +1



Add another +1 I don't believe for a minute that he got rich gambling, or with real estate. He didn't have enough houses. How do you get rich with real estate with 5 houses?? So he had to be up to something illegal like drugs or gun running??? I sure don't believe what the FBI or the Sheriff is selling.
"A gun control advocate" is the weakest of the theories.....Absolutely nothing to point to that besides pure imagination.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
"A gun control advocate" is the weakest of the theories.....Absolutely nothing to point to that besides pure imagination.

Sic 'em, Jorge.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
"A gun control advocate" is the weakest of the theories.....Absolutely nothing to point to that besides pure imagination.

Sic 'em, Jorge.

Thanks for the laugh.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
"A gun control advocate" is the weakest of the theories.....Absolutely nothing to point to that besides pure imagination.

Sic 'em, Jorge.

Thanks for the laugh.

You seem grateful for laughs. Ask your boyfriend Polesmoker to pull his pants down. That should get you a good guffaw. Then again it might set off a crying jag instead.
Nutter. At least TRH has real thoughts on stuff. Laughing at you yet again EE
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Ann Coulter makes a case for Paddock being a black market firearms dealer, based on the story the media has laid out that his millions of dollars came impossibly from video poker winnings.



http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2017-10-11.html#read_more


Don't worry after long and thorough investigation they will sell story most palatable to greatest number of listeners.
Coulter is as bad as the liberal media in that she will say anything to get ratings. If the guy made millions as a illegal arms trafficker it was thru military grade stuff to cartels and rebel groups, your not going to be making millions being a garage gun dealer. And if he had access to military grade stuff why was he using bump stocks?
EE There's good folks around here, different views and senses of humor. You ain't among them. You're coming off as something of a cock-obsessed degenerate. Wouldn't want you around my family or camp. Later on nutter...

HUMBUG

Spending 14 hours a day playing the slots! When did he do real estate?
Gamblin the way this loser did, would be the worst possible way ta launder money.

His line is known, every wager is known, location is known, every comp is known, and the result of each gaming session is known.

His transfers to/from the casino to settle up, are known.

He can't hide a penny.

If he was tryin to launder, he'd buy $1mm in chips with cash, which he can't do legally without paperwork, not sayin it can't be done, then play a bit and cash out claimin to be a winner.

And acourse, even that can be checked out, these days.
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