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"It had me puzzled somewhat for a while, and I couldn't quite figure out what it was about Trump that set the Left over the edge immediately following the election and long before he took office.

Sure, I got that they were stunned that Her Royal Highness was defeated convincingly. No Al Gore hanging chad here. but a convincing loss. I never saw that enough to send them into a frenzy of "Resist!" and "Obstruct!" immediately. I figured it would die down and it never did. We have witnessed Trump attacked from the Dems, the MSM, from Soros groups and from within which is more frightening as we see what the people in the FBI were up to.

Why? Why not regroup and defeat him in 2020? What is the one issue that could mobilize them into a frenzy of hate? Then I discovered it surfing he Democratic Underground:

ABORTION!

Yes, my friends, that is the issue, that is the cause that has galvanized them into a fighting unit to rid them of Trump by hook or by crook. The Left was sure that they were going to HRC to appoint the replacement on the SCOTUS and tilt the Court to the Left 5-4. HRC would replace RBG and Kennedy and the Court would stay Left for the next generation.

With Trump's victory, they immediately realized that they were NOT going to get the next Justice to replace Scalia, and that it was very likely that Trump would be the won, with a GOP Senate to replace RBG and Kennedy. If that happens, the Left know they are the ones to lose the Court for the next generation.

With that, they have an over riding fear that a new abortion case would come before the court and that Roe v. Wade gets overturned. It matters not that R. v. W has been the law of the land for 45 years and is a political Third Rail, they fear that they will lose "their right to choose". This is why they have a full on attack of Trump and the Right. They will attack anything the Right hold dear. That especially means God and Guns.

The Right's major cause is the 2nd Amendment. Therefore, it is a target of the Left. Wound the Right, attack what they hold dear. Divide the Right, smear Trump, impeach Trump. What do they get if they impeach Trump? The smart ones know they get Pence, who is a strong Pro Life guy and that bothers them as much as Trump. They figure that with Trump out, the GOP will lose the WH in 2020, and they can replace RBG and Kennedy, and let the Progressive agenda march on. If they don't, then Trump and Co. will undo much of what Obama did, and much of what the Left did under W. Bush's last term.

That's as clear as I can sum it up. Everything else works off of that. The Christian Right abhors LGBT, so the Left is going to stick it in their face. Any gun violence (outside of the ghetto) will be an opportunity to stick it to the right. Open Borders dilutes the Religious Right's voting block, browns America, and make more Democrat voters.

Abortion is the only subject that can bring the Left to the streets to protest, to march, to scream shrilly, and to come unglued with anger. They aren't smart enough to understand trade, economics, the budget, or foreign affairs. They are and have been for 50 years a single topic voting block. They will accept any special interest group that will unite with them over that. "


HT 2018
Education and courts. Left has been way ahead in stacking those areas for decades. Repukes are to nice. While they are always worried about how nice their POSTUS should be the ENEMY has been laughing.
If the left really gave a damn about life, they wouldn't execute humans by the millions in the womb. Nothing they say can possibly convince me that any of this is about protecting life.
The "left" is fighting to implement the destruction of western european culture, both in europe and America, through multiculturalism, feminism, the acceptance of deviant sexual behavior,.. ect.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The "left" is fighting to implement the destruction of western european culture, both in Europe and America, through multiculturalism, feminism, the acceptance of deviant sexual behavior,.. ect.



Agree totally. I think the linchpin in their program is abortion. Feminists make that their #1 issue. They can get the others on board by saying "fight for my issue and then I'll fight for yours". Right won't do that. "I'll fight for mine, and won't fight for yours if there is 15% of it I don't like."

Western Culture can be eliminated through negative population growth, open borders, and forced acceptance of immigrant culture diluting the home culture or suppressing/displacing it. The Left will do to Europe, and soon America what Hitler and Stalin couldn't. Defeat Europe and America.
I tend to think abortion is our winning issue. Abortion has mobilized many many millions on the right. Moreso than on the left in my experience. I think it helped put Reagan and others in office and I think its crippled politicians on the left for more than 40 years.
The left is fighting for a Socialist/Communist USA. Disarming all us citizens is the first step.
Originally Posted by BKinSD
I tend to think abortion is our winning issue. Abortion has mobilized many many millions on the right. Moreso than on the left in my experience. I think it helped put Reagan and others in office and I think its crippled politicians on the left for more than 40 years.



It did help Reagan because of the support of the "Moral Majority". The support of Reagan and the GOP from evangelicals and white Christian voters that made the Reagan landslide was the beginning of the all out hostility the Left has for Christian community and for God. Intellectual Leftists on both coasts are galled that simpletons in fly over country are on board with their "enlightened" view of the world. Just ask Joy Beher or Anderson Cooper.
If a case ever gets to the Supremes about abortion, Roe v. Wade falls, as it is not based on science at this point.

With the successful testing of an "artificial womb," the viability defense of Roe v. Wade is pointless. If that ever gets to The Court, it's over.

So, yes, it is one large galvanizing issue for the Leftniks, as they are on the thinnest of ice.
Originally Posted by victoro
The left is fighting for a Socialist/Communist USA. Disarming all us citizens is the first step.


They’re not alone in their fight, there’s plenty of “conservatives” (useful idiots for the left) that are happy to help the left as witnessed here. The supposedly “right” leaning people have cleverly masked themselves as one of “us” but they’re quickly showing their ass to the rest of us that aren’t so quick to give up.

A bunch of surrender monkeys is all they are.

At least the left is honest and upfront about their plans to destroy the USA and our constitution, the “republicans” here are so quick to throw in the towel and quit if Trump doesn’t do exactly as they wanted him to do irregardless of whether they supporte him or not. The dumbasses that didn’t vote for him, now they think that we and Trump should give a flyingfuck what they think about his performance. Everyone has the right to say what they want but it doesn’t preclude them from looking like asses nor does it mean that we can’t call them out when they do.

Annoying little surrender monkeys is all they are.
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Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The "left" is fighting to implement the destruction of western european culture, both in Europe and America, through multiculturalism, feminism, the acceptance of deviant sexual behavior,.. ect.



Agree totally. [b]I think the linchpin in their program is abortion. Feminists make that their #1 issue. They can get the others on board by saying "fight for my issue and then I'll fight for yours". Right won't do that. "I'll fight for mine, and won't fight for yours if there is 15% of it I don't like."

Western Culture can be eliminated through negative population growth, open borders, and forced acceptance of immigrant culture diluting the home culture or suppressing/displacing it. The Left will do to Europe, and soon America what Hitler and Stalin couldn't. Defeat Europe and America.


Republicans are certainly their own worst enemy. Way to quick to throw he baby out with the bath water. It appears Democraps are more willing to fight the same battle regardless of their feelings. Republicans can't seem to get out of their own way, even if it means winning. 15% is a high figure, Republicans break off at 5% apparently.
Y'all can flame me all you want...

But, I'd give 'em abortion, if they would shut their mouths forever about guns, and the 2nd Amendment.

But, they won't... so, it's a mute point.
The goal is to destroy the wealth gradient that exists along the southern border so that said border can be completely erased. That would effectively destroy the USA and clear the path to world government.

Abortion is just a bone thrown out to counterculture to keep their eyes off of Liberty. Indiscriminate sex without consequences is nothing but an addicting drug, and indiscriminate sex is the highest calling in pop culture. Those willing to bear the offspring see the other side of the card, which is subsidies forever. Youth are for the most part completely out of the loop.

The one-worlders have lots of different bones to throw out there to various constituencies.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights


They’re not alone in their fight, there’s plenty of “conservatives” (useful idiots for the left) that are happy to help the left as witnessed here. The supposedly “right” leaning people have cleverly masked themselves as one of “us” but they’re quickly
“republicans” here are so quick to throw in the towel and quit if Trump doesn’t do exactly as they wanted him to do




That's a steaming crock o'chit.

People are upset with Trump because he didn't do what *he* said he was going to do.

Who out there voted for Trump because he "loves" the DACA people? Who voted for him because he would sign an Omnibus bill written by Pelosi and Schumer? Who voted for Trump because he said that he would drag old warmonger John Bolton out of mothballs and put him in his administration?

If you're so deep in denial that you have to lie to yourself that's your business.

But I won't lie to myself about what's happened.

Trump has been broken.

The best that anybody can say about his presidency is that he kept Hillary from getting elected.
If you want to see a Surrender Monkey,...look at Trump,...and while you're at it look at the people who support his surrender.

*That's* the fuggin' "surrender monkeys".

I chit you not one ounce.

The people who continue to support this crap have surrendered.
I don't think abortion really has much to do with it, nor does the Second Amendment. If they were very concerned with abortion, they'd be worried about all the Democrat babies that are aborted each year, because the Democrat base is where the largest number of abortions occur. The gun thing might be in their sights, but it's something they can take on down the road.

Bristoe is right........it's our culture the left wants to change. They think we should all hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and all be alike.........queers, trannies, child molesters, straight people, Negroes, Latinos, Muzzies, White......multiculturalism, that's what they want, and they will never stop until they get it.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The "left" is fighting to implement the destruction of western european culture, both in europe and America, through multiculturalism, feminism, the acceptance of deviant sexual behavior,.. ect.

I see it about like this. Abortion is one social issue of many that they care about in tearing down Ameica and the ideas that we were founded on. Embracing transgenders as normal and mentally healthy despite all reason to the contrary, removing guns from the household, no longer teaching much American history in the schools, "whatever you feel is right because feelings are never wrong" fostering a week femine man that expects to always win a prize. Ect, etc. It's all part of the globalist playbook. I'm not sure that they hold abortion any higher than the rest of it.
One year into his presidency and one staunch conservative appointment to the SCOTUS and the armchair republicans are going to chew their legs off because their tail got stuck.

There’s a lot of ways the omnibus bill can be used to our advantage but the politically clairvoyant amongst us have already decided that the sky is falling. If they don’t get 100% of what they want right fugging now they’ll stomp their wittle feet and hold their breath and pout. I’m optimistic about the future under Trump and all you Chicken Little’s and surrender monkeys can hold your breath because your political clairvoyance and your make believe pretend imagination says so.

If the deep state is as deep as you believe Bristoe then I’d think you’d also understand that there’s many forces working against him and this chit doesn’t change overnight, no matter how long you hold your breath.
The left believes the Constitution is a living and breathing document that should be changed to however it fits their agenda. Guns, abortion, immigration and other issues are tools they use to "Divide and Conquer".

They want to put everyone in the same social and income bracket under a BIG government "Communism". They want control of everything about you. The "Divide and conquer" works for them because so many liberals are envious of success.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
One year into his presidency and one staunch conservative appointment to the SCOTUS and the armchair republicans are going to chew their legs off because their tail got stuck.

There’s a lot of ways the omnibus bill can be used to our advantage but the politically clairvoyant amongst us have already decided that the sky is falling. If they don’t get 100% of what they want right fugging now they’ll stomp their wittle feet and hold their breath and pout. I’m optimistic about the future under Trump and all you Chicken Little’s and surrender monkeys can hold your breath because your political clairvoyance and your make believe pretend imagination says so.

If the deep state is as deep as you believe Bristoe then I’d think you’d also understand that there’s many forces working against him and this chit doesn’t change overnight, no matter how long you hold your breath.


Anyone who hasn't surrendered is screaming bloody murder about the crap that Trump is *not* doing,....because they know that he's handing the government back over to the Democrats in 2020.

Write it down.


The difference is that Tyrant Obama the Liar gave $750 million to Democratic front groups and that is what’s funding their resistance.
Abortion and queers. That's why the left and the Lord are directly opposed to each other.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
But, I'd give 'em abortion, if they would shut their mouths forever about guns, and the 2nd Amendment.


+1
Originally Posted by Bristoe
If you want to see a Surrender Monkey,...look at Trump,...and while you're at it look at the people who support his surrender.

*That's* the fuggin' "surrender monkeys".

I chit you not one ounce.

The people who continue to support this crap have surrendered.


Lolol..😂

Okay, if you say so.

I’m sure Ru Paul would have single handedly torn down a half century of laws and subterfuge overnight and done so in consultation with you every step of the way.

Go ahead and raise the white flag and throw in the towel, I’m sure Antifa will treat you well and you’ll enjoy the accommodations at the FEMA camp. You might even be of great use to the enemy, they’re fond of surrender monkeys.....hell they even elected one with the unknowing support of politically clairvoyant “conservatives” like yourself. You guys that know what the future holds can keep holding your breath but I’ll keep my respiration rate within normal limits and remain optimistic.
I agree with Hatari about abortion. Abortion is the "fighting words" of the left just like "gun control" is the fighting words of the right. But, others have said it, the right refuses to stand together as one. No one can beat anyone the democrats offer up in 2020 except for Donald Trump. We also need to keep the House and the Senate. But, the political right refuses to stand as one.

Hatari also said:
"Agree totally. I think the linchpin in their program is abortion. Feminists make that their #1 issue. They can get the others on board by saying "fight for my issue and then I'll fight for yours". Right won't do that. "I'll fight for mine, and won't fight for yours if there is 15% of it I don't like."

He is correct. We MUST stand together and stop whining about every little thing that does not go your way. Some things, like the last budget bill, stink. But I will stand with Mr. Trump until his last day. To do anything less is akin to political suicide and destruction of America as we know it. Can you only imagine where America would be today if hillary had been elected. It will be like that again if the we lose the House and the Senate. Plan on it. Stand together or we die.

kwg
I've always looked at abortion like this, it's one of those issues that your lifestyle will dictate as to whether you are for it, or against it. Furthermore, I don't think it's anywhere as big a deal as it's made out to be. Illegal abortions occurred long before they became legal, and if they were banned, women would simply go back to getting an illegal one.

Some religions, particularly the Catholics, supposedly take a tough stance against abortion, yet give their wealthy Democrat donors a big sendoff when they die, even though they were pro-choice. So, it can't be that big of a deal, can it.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Abortion and queers. That's why the left and the Lord are directly opposed to each other.


Yep and those crimes are not against me. I believe that they’ll answer for their sins someday as will all of us. I don’t have to worry about either of those so I’ll let judgement day sort that out.
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
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Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The "left" is fighting to implement the destruction of western european culture, both in Europe and America, through multiculturalism, feminism, the acceptance of deviant sexual behavior,.. ect.



Agree totally. [b]I think the linchpin in their program is abortion. Feminists make that their #1 issue. They can get the others on board by saying "fight for my issue and then I'll fight for yours". Right won't do that. "I'll fight for mine, and won't fight for yours if there is 15% of it I don't like."

Western Culture can be eliminated through negative population growth, open borders, and forced acceptance of immigrant culture diluting the home culture or suppressing/displacing it. The Left will do to Europe, and soon America what Hitler and Stalin couldn't. Defeat Europe and America.


Republicans are certainly their own worst enemy. Way to quick to throw he baby out with the bath water. It appears Democraps are more willing to fight the same battle regardless of their feelings. Republicans can't seem to get out of their own way, even if it means winning. 15% is a high figure, Republicans break off at 5% apparently.





That's the difference between those who are driven by what they believe in terms of morality and good sense who have also put time and energy into the refinement of those beliefs, and those whose life is ordered by talking points of feel-good, catchy, nonsensical lies.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Bristoe
If you want to see a Surrender Monkey,...look at Trump,...and while you're at it look at the people who support his surrender.

*That's* the fuggin' "surrender monkeys".

I chit you not one ounce.

The people who continue to support this crap have surrendered.


Lolol..😂

Okay, if you say so.

I’m sure Ru Paul would have single handedly torn down a half century of laws and subterfuge overnight and done so in consultation with you every step of the way.

Go ahead and raise the white flag and throw in the towel, I’m sure Antifa will treat you well and you’ll enjoy the accommodations at the FEMA camp. You might even be of great use to the enemy, they’re fond of surrender monkeys.....hell they even elected one with the unknowing support of politically clairvoyant “conservatives” like yourself. You guys that know what the future holds can keep holding your breath but I’ll keep my respiration rate within normal limits and remain optimistic.


"Ru Paul"

That's the level of discourse one can expect from tradcons.

Support whoever you want. But Trumps base is gone.
At some point biotechnology will make Roe v Wade obsolete.
Your response sounds like a liberal response.....plug your ears while screaming la,la,la,la,la. I also use Klinton, Obongo and various other colloquialisms that are an elucidation of my contempt.

If “that level of discourse” is too tough or emotionally charged for you then I understand and will pray that you enjoy the camps. If you’re useful enough to the guards you might get more responsibility and food. Maybe you could be the barracks’ snitch, anyone that doesn’t immediately do what you say gets reported and you’ll get an extra biscuit with supper. 😁
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Your response sounds like a liberal response.....plug your ears while screaming la,la,la,la,la. I also use Klinton, Obongo and various other colloquialisms that are an elucidation of my contempt.

If “that level of discourse” is too tough or emotionally charged for you then I understand and will pray that you enjoy the camps. If you’re useful enough to the guards you might get more responsibility and food. Maybe you could be the barracks’ snitch, anyone that doesn’t immediately do what you say gets reported and you’ll get an extra biscuit with supper. 😁


You're channeling watch4bear.
Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
But, I'd give 'em abortion, if they would shut their mouths forever about guns, and the 2nd Amendment.

+1

LOL, what makes you assume that the party of slippery slopes would ever stop at abortion?
Originally Posted by Peddler
Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
But, I'd give 'em abortion, if they would shut their mouths forever about guns, and the 2nd Amendment.

+1

LOL, what makes you assume that the party of slippery slopes would ever stop at abortion?

This is why you can never ever negotiate with the left. It's the same reason why we should never ever negotiate with terrorists. As soon as you give them ANYTHING, they take the victory, lock it in forever, and then move on to the next thing they will steal. People mistakenly assume that negotiating with the left is a two-way street LOL. Nothing can be further from the truth. It's a one way street, their way, and the best you can ever hope for it to pause at a stop light once in a while. The only answer is to never turn down that road to begin with.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Your response sounds like a liberal response.....plug your ears while screaming la,la,la,la,la. I also use Klinton, Obongo and various other colloquialisms that are an elucidation of my contempt.

If “that level of discourse” is too tough or emotionally charged for you then I understand and will pray that you enjoy the camps. If you’re useful enough to the guards you might get more responsibility and food. Maybe you could be the barracks’ snitch, anyone that doesn’t immediately do what you say gets reported and you’ll get an extra biscuit with supper. 😁


You're channeling watch4bear.


Says the quitter. 🙄

If you surrender early enough and don’t put up a fight you could just change sides. You aren’t the first, it’s happened in every war we’ve fought, sometimes a person decides it’d be safer for them to change loyalties. Those that remain loyal to their cause stand and fight, sometimes losing a battle but steadfast in their collective-singular goal. Those that remain committed to their cause and fight the hardest win the war even though they lost a lot along the way.

Do you think that you’re going to change your name after the “change”? Skylar has nice gender fluid and quietly appropriate ring to it......make sure and use that on your antifa application paperwork as I’ve heard that they do a lot of communication and that way you’ll get their mailers and flyers about upcoming events in your local area. 😉
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Your response sounds like a liberal response.....plug your ears while screaming la,la,la,la,la. I also use Klinton, Obongo and various other colloquialisms that are an elucidation of my contempt.

If “that level of discourse” is too tough or emotionally charged for you then I understand and will pray that you enjoy the camps. If you’re useful enough to the guards you might get more responsibility and food. Maybe you could be the barracks’ snitch, anyone that doesn’t immediately do what you say gets reported and you’ll get an extra biscuit with supper. 😁


You're channeling watch4bear.


Says the quitter. 🙄

If you surrender early enough and don’t put up a fight you could just change sides. You aren’t the first, it’s happened in every war we’ve fought, sometimes a person decides it’d be safer for them to change loyalties. Those that remain loyal to their cause stand and fight, sometimes losing a battle but steadfast in their collective-singular goal. Those that remain committed to their cause and fight the hardest win the war even though they lost a lot along the way.

Do you think that you’re going to change your name after the “change”? Skylar has nice gender fluid and quietly appropriate ring to it......make sure and use that on your antifa application paperwork as I’ve heard that they do a lot of communication and that way you’ll get their mailers and flyers about upcoming events in your local area. 😉


You've gone full retard.

Never go full retard.
Originally Posted by FatCity67
At some point biotechnology will make Roe v Wade obsolete.


Or islam after they kill all the lieberal "men".
Originally Posted by JamesJr
.....it's our culture the left wants to change. They think we should all hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and all be alike.........queers, trannies, child molesters, straight people, Negroes, Latinos, Muzzies, White......multiculturalism, that's what they want, and they will never stop until they get it.

I'm not convinced that your proposition describes all of what they want - but if you happen to be correct, they will toil forever and fail for certain. No government/social construct EVER will bring about such ends.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
One year into his presidency and one staunch conservative appointment to the SCOTUS and the armchair republicans are going to chew their legs off because their tail got stuck.

There’s a lot of ways the omnibus bill can be used to our advantage but the politically clairvoyant amongst us have already decided that the sky is falling. If they don’t get 100% of what they want right fugging now they’ll stomp their wittle feet and hold their breath and pout. I’m optimistic about the future under Trump and all you Chicken Little’s and surrender monkeys can hold your breath because your political clairvoyance and your make believe pretend imagination says so.

If the deep state is as deep as you believe Bristoe then I’d think you’d also understand that there’s many forces working against him and this chit doesn’t change overnight, no matter how long you hold your breath.

^^^ AMEN ^^^
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
One year into his presidency and one staunch conservative appointment to the SCOTUS and the armchair republicans are going to chew their legs off because their tail got stuck.

There’s a lot of ways the omnibus bill can be used to our advantage but the politically clairvoyant amongst us have already decided that the sky is falling. If they don’t get 100% of what they want right fugging now they’ll stomp their wittle feet and hold their breath and pout. I’m optimistic about the future under Trump and all you Chicken Little’s and surrender monkeys can hold your breath because your political clairvoyance and your make believe pretend imagination says so.

If the deep state is as deep as you believe Bristoe then I’d think you’d also understand that there’s many forces working against him and this chit doesn’t change overnight, no matter how long you hold your breath.


Anyone who hasn't surrendered is screaming bloody murder about the crap that Trump is *not* doing,....because they know that he's handing the government back over to the Democrats in 2020.

Write it down.



Not before I get my chance to vote I hope!
Regardless of what the Radical Progressives/Soros/Feminists/Homosexuals and other Deviants/Etc. may do in efforts to prolong it, abortion based on personal demand is going to end in this country. I think they realize that eventuality. Supporting the killing of innocent children is as bad as crime gets, and that crime can unravel the fabric of any supposedly just society..
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by Bristoe
If you want to see a Surrender Monkey,...look at Trump,...and while you're at it look at the people who support his surrender.

*That's* the fuggin' "surrender monkeys".

I chit you not one ounce.

The people who continue to support this crap have surrendered.


Lolol..😂

Okay, if you say so.

I’m sure Ru Paul would have single handedly torn down a half century of laws and subterfuge overnight and done so in consultation with you every step of the way.

Go ahead and raise the white flag and throw in the towel, I’m sure Antifa will treat you well and you’ll enjoy the accommodations at the FEMA camp. You might even be of great use to the enemy, they’re fond of surrender monkeys.....hell they even elected one with the unknowing support of politically clairvoyant “conservatives” like yourself. You guys that know what the future holds can keep holding your breath but I’ll keep my respiration rate within normal limits and remain optimistic.


"Ru Paul"

That's the level of discourse one can expect from tradcons.

Support whoever you want. But Trumps base is gone.

I doubt that very much!
Originally Posted by CCCC
Regardless of what the Radical Progressives/Soros/Feminists/Homosexuals and other Deviants/Etc. may do in efforts to prolong it, abortion based on personal demand is going to end in this country.


No time soon.

Trump just signed an Omnibus bill that provides a half *billion* dollars to planned parenthood.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by CCCC
Regardless of what the Radical Progressives/Soros/Feminists/Homosexuals and other Deviants/Etc. may do in efforts to prolong it, abortion based on personal demand is going to end in this country.


No time soon.

Trump just signed an Omnibus bill that provides a half *billion* dollars to planned parenthood.

To be total honest what part of Planned Parenthood hurts Republicans. As said earlier most babies aborted are not white and do not
come from Republican homes! Seems this would only hurt Demorats!
Originally Posted by CCCC
Regardless of what the Radical Progressives/Soros/Feminists/Homosexuals and other Deviants/Etc. may do in efforts to prolong it, abortion based on personal demand is going to end in this country. I think they realize that eventuality. Supporting the killing of innocent children is as bad as crime gets, and that crime can unravel the fabric of any supposedly just society..



Yes, the killing of innocent children is something that you and I may see as being a bad thing.......but the problem is, we really don't see it. When was the last time you saw some girl telling the world "hey y'all, look at me, I'm going to get this baby inside me aborted because all I wanted out of sex was an orgasm, not a kid." The point is, you don't see it, because they go and have it done, and utter not a word about it.

On the flip side, the queers, trannies, pervs, mixed race couples are everywhere........on TV shows, movies, commercials, magazine ads.......all making us think that is the new norm for America.
Originally Posted by BKinSD
I tend to think abortion is our winning issue. Abortion has mobilized many many millions on the right. Moreso than on the left in my experience. I think it helped put Reagan and others in office and I think its crippled politicians on the left for more than 40 years.

I agree. And because of this we find the reason that it hasn't been eliminated yet. If it was eliminated, what difference would there be between the RINO platform and the Democrat?
Originally Posted by larrylee
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by CCCC
Regardless of what the Radical Progressives/Soros/Feminists/Homosexuals and other Deviants/Etc. may do in efforts to prolong it, abortion based on personal demand is going to end in this country.


No time soon.

Trump just signed an Omnibus bill that provides a half *billion* dollars to planned parenthood.

To be total honest what part of Planned Parenthood hurts Republicans. As said earlier most babies aborted are not white and do not
come from Republican homes! Seems this would only hurt Demorats!


Larry, that's what I've been saying for a long time. I'm not ever going to support the killing of babies, and that's what they are. But, these babies are the children of the people who are oppose us, which translates into fewer of them.
The abortion numbers in the black community are fairly shocking. For every 1000 live births, there's 430 abortions.
Originally Posted by larrylee
To be total honest what part of Planned Parenthood hurts Republicans. As said earlier most babies aborted are not white and do not
come from Republican homes! Seems this would only hurt Demorats!
Is that a question? I'll tell you the answer - PP uses a schitload of that money that we the TAXPAYERS are giving them to campaign for Democrats and fund Leftwing causes!
What a lot of you seem to be missing is the massive amount of money listed for military spending. This is why Trump signed the bill. Any of you consider there may be a pressing issue that involves a fully funded and fighting ready military?
Originally Posted by larrylee
Originally Posted by CCCC
Regardless of what the Radical Progressives/Soros/Feminists/Homosexuals and other Deviants/Etc. may do in efforts to prolong it, abortion based on personal demand is going to end in this country. I think they realize that eventuality. Supporting the killing of innocent children is as bad as crime gets, and that crime can unravel the fabric of any supposedly just society..

To be total honest what part of Planned Parenthood hurts Republicans. As said earlier most babies aborted are not white and do not
come from Republican homes! Seems this would only hurt Demorats!

The post was not based on political considerations or related consequences.
Originally Posted by Peddler
Originally Posted by Peddler
Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
But, I'd give 'em abortion, if they would shut their mouths forever about guns, and the 2nd Amendment.

+1

LOL, what makes you assume that the party of slippery slopes would ever stop at abortion?

This is why you can never ever negotiate with the left. It's the same reason why we should never ever negotiate with terrorists. As soon as you give them ANYTHING, they take the victory, lock it in forever, and then move on to the next thing they will steal. People mistakenly assume that negotiating with the left is a two-way street LOL. Nothing can be further from the truth. It's a one way street, their way, and the best you can ever hope for it to pause at a stop light once in a while. The only answer is to never turn down that road to begin with.



I think you need to scroll back and read the entirety of my post. wink
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
I think you need to scroll back and read the entirety of my post. wink

Yeah, I know, I'm just ranting cool
smile
Originally Posted by rickt300
What a lot of you seem to be missing is the massive amount of money listed for military spending. This is why Trump signed the bill. Any of you consider there may be a pressing issue that involves a fully funded and fighting ready military?


I'm sure the American government will find some place to fight a war.

Blood is money!
Bristoe, are you now back to the "not ever voting " stage again?
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Bristoe, are you now back to the "not ever voting " stage again?


I don't know. But in any event, Trump won't lose by just one vote in 2020.
always did sorta like the way ol hatari couched his commentaries. it kinda sets the stage to flow in a certain direction about every time he types a letter, word, sentence, or paragraph.

the thing about abortion as a divisive issue, is that it can be used as a counter-play against the anti-gun zealots. there's anti-abortion folks, and then there's anti-gun folks, get it?

fortgotten in the morass of words and discussion is the practical aspects of the various control strategies that groups attempt to impose on the rest of us by the "official" auspices of government. i mean, afterall, government is here for US. that's why i work & pay taxes, so i can gain the benefits that gov't provides..like for instance telling me when and where i can tote a pistol. regulation by govt... whomever invented that concept should be found, exhumed, and then their carcass shot over and over again.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Bristoe, are you now back to the "not ever voting " stage again?


I don't know. But in any event, Trump won't lose by just one vote in 20



I'm a lot more concerned with this November. If he loses either chamber of Congress his presidency is over and there goes the SCOTUS and appts to the Federal Courts. All of the rest.....fug it.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
...Trumps base is gone...


Only to the traitors among us. WTF is wrong with you?
Originally Posted by Gus
always did sorta like the way ol hatari couched his commentaries. it kinda sets the stage to flow in a certain direction about every time he types a letter, word, sentence, or paragraph.

the thing about abortion as a divisive issue, is that it can be used as a counter-play against the anti-gun zealots. there's anti-abortion folks, and then there's anti-gun folks, get it?

fortgotten in the morass of words and discussion is the practical aspects of the various control strategies that groups attempt to impose on the rest of us by the "official" auspices of government. i mean, afterall, government is here for US. that's why i work & pay taxes, so i can gain the benefits that gov't provides..like for instance telling me when and where i can tote a pistol. regulation by govt... whomever invented that concept should be found, exhumed, and then their carcass shot over and over again.


Some of us are already doing that. If you vote for abortion you will vote against the 2nd Amendment. It's that simple. Left vs right. If we don't stand together, the democrats will win. It's that simple. The more we publicly whine and moan, the stronger they get. The more embolden they become. Those folks in the middle, they will go with the left because we can't seem to agree. If we don't stand together, we will lose. Please don't take this public. Keep it here but don't voice you opinions about Mr. Trump in a public forum like facebook or some other political forum.

kwg
Originally Posted by pal
Originally Posted by Bristoe
...Trumps base is gone...


Only to the traitors among us. WTF is wrong with you?


I'm just telling you how it is. Rule #1:

"Don't slap your base in the face".

Don't blame me for the way reality is configured. I didn't make it that way. I just see it.
Like I said earlier and despite your desire, you don’t speak for his base, know what his base wants nor were you ever a part of his base. You’re just a guy that should stick to writing funny stories and leave political critique to people that vote.....you’ve become a caricature of a political “Eeyore”. 😉......it’ll never work.....

Never be a political Eeyore...

the demo wing of the demo-publican consortium has nobody for 2020. they do have Oprah, she's in denial.

whereas the repub side, aided by the libertarians do have trump as the savior, etc.

facebook, twitter, etc. etc. have become pressure release mechanisms.

the Greens will probably fall into the demo camp, unless.
In my little world I believe one thing about the left. They really could care less about guns or abortion....their main focus is on CONTROL. That’s it in a nutshell...so they can be just like other socialist countries.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The abortion numbers in the black community are fairly shocking. For every 1000 live births, there's 430 abortions.



As a Christian and pro-lifer, I'm supposed to find those numbers heartbreaking. But, as a realist, if those numbers are right, the fact that half the Negroes born are being done away with, somewhat lessens that feeling.
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The abortion numbers in the black community are fairly shocking. For every 1000 live births, there's 430 abortions.



As a Christian and pro-lifer, I'm supposed to find those numbers heartbreaking. But, as a realist, if those numbers are right, the fact that half the Negroes born are being done away with, somewhat lessens that feeling.



laugh
It's a bit less than a third,..1430 births, 430 abortions.
if we were getting any kind of return on investment from our gov't taxes (investment, contributions) then the public schools would be teaching kids and preparing them to be responsible adults..that is, not over populating the earth. then teach them a bit of real world economics, that people will starve if there aren't a sufficient number of workers to support the whole. think of ant and bee colonies as possible examples.

but, no, we're teaching something totally unsustainable in the schools. and the tax-payers applaud.

we humans besides being a bit stupid, have a very violent make-up deep down. that has allowed success in the past.

but now, our kids are growing up to be little socialists, and gun-haters.

the number of failed states continue to grow & increase.

better to die in the womb, or on the battlefield?
Originally Posted by Bristoe
It's a bit less than a third,..1430 births, 430 abortions.



A third of them is better than none.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The abortion numbers in the black community are fairly shocking. For every 1000 live births, there's 430 abortions.

They know that and if they didn't think fscking was a human right more important than life, abortion would have been gone yesterday.
The groids aren't the issue, its the meskins' that will swallow you...
Originally Posted by Peddler
Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
But, I'd give 'em abortion, if they would shut their mouths forever about guns, and the 2nd Amendment.

+1

LOL, what makes you assume that the party of slippery slopes would ever stop at abortion?


Just for the sake of checking your eyesight and reading comprehension, do you see the word "if" in there? I highlighted it for you in case you continue having trouble. You do recall, in the words of Rush Limbaugh, "words mean things", correct? So, like the man said ... **if**.

Tom
Where is this all going?
Where is the Left's mounting evidence of the dehumanization of Humanity going?

Their "devaluation of life", Making humanity valueless. Worthless.
They've mounted a campaign, when examined in totality, seems only to lead to [/b]TOTALITARIANISM[b]

But in typical Leftist form, they SAY one thing, but DO the opposite.
They send the mixed message that "everyone matters":
womans equality,
black lives matter;
transgender rights,
gay rights,
Satantic rights,

While doing the opposite - Humanity doesnt:

-Partial live birth abortion; wholesale abortion on demand
-Selling aborted parts for compensation
-removing gender pronouns of identity
-mixing competitive sports between genders for competitive inequity,
-characterizing religious faith, which gives humanity meaning and hope, and spreads compassion, as backward; scrubbing faith from the mass media, and public arena, and decentalizing it in peoples life.
-redefining what work is because it lends value and purpose to ones life
-importing cultures by force that directly CONTRADICT their political platform, or womens rights, and child safety

THE LEFT is synonymous with and champions all manners of indecency and deviancy,
and DEMAND its legitimacy into a normal world by ALWAYS framing it as a human rights message.
BUT this seems a contradiction, as their campaign does everything to break down expected HUMAN rights, for an amoral/moraless society responsible to no one:

-Man/boy love
-Pedophilia
-Human trafficking
-Child pornography
-importing cultures where juvenile sexual relationships
and rape are condoned, changing public opnion that
our children are our most precious resource. (destroying the nuclear family condition)

This, after they have ALREADY worked at delegitimizing and relieving of the Lawful and Individual rights - the rights of the governance of man to man, that tamp down Anarchy, and create a civil society, of which we have expectations.
(Your Constitutional rights: 1st and 2nd, which we see the Left going after so vehemently in the news.)

After those are squashed, and you have no ability to speak out, nor defend yourself against transgression (see Europe, arrests for speaking out about invading culture assaults), and once they achieve the result of devaluing Humanity so far through social change and Law to convince the individual its true-- that they have no human value, no special spark of Human Spirit, no reward is waiting beyond this life, and no one is looking out for you here, theres no difference between sexes, babies are nothing but part human and part "stuff" (as quoted by planned parenthood), and you're no different than a stone, or a leaf of lettuce....

[/i]....well then, It is easier to ask you, or MAKE you inflict any manner of cruelty on your fellow worthless, useless human at whim. [i]

Then, mindless betrayals between usually friendly neighbors; reeducation camps; and possibly wholesale murder.

WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS IN HISTORY.
When the Germans invaded the Baltics, they set up the special death squads to root out their victims, which in turn recruited people in that same community to identify victims for extermination, in exchange for their own safety and lives.
And you dont have to guess how willingly those recruited folks did their jobs of betrayal, because of the RELIEF that their lives would be spared in the coming carnage.
it's human evolution. humans by definition are a violent species. that's how we've come as far as we have. to the point of over-population.

but, we're not giving up. why would we? why should we?

both the us and russia (and others?) own small stockpiles of smallpox, etc. etc.

if the space aliens attack, maybe they won't be immune to the microbes who roam the earth?
Let them abort all their baby's. There won't be near as many democrats. We wouldn't have peddler and all the other dummies. Look how much money we will save as they grow up. Helll, lets encourage 'em!!!
Originally Posted by DouginLa
Let them abort all their baby's. There won't be near as many democrats. We wouldn't have peddler and all the other dummies. Look how much money we will save as they grow up. Helll, lets encourage 'em!!!


peddler - good

paddler - obama fan

big difference
I stand corrected.
Originally Posted by DouginLa
Let them abort all their baby's. There won't be near as many democrats. We wouldn't have peddler and all the other dummies. Look how much money we will save as they grow up. Helll, lets encourage 'em!!!


I said the exact same thing on here years ago and was vilified. Middle and upper class whites don’t abort their kids, lowlife scumbags abort their baby and that baby is likely to grow up and become a scumbag itself, white or black, but blacks have huge abortion rates. Could you imagine the annual number of those abortions each year being added to the welfare roles? I’m not for abortion as much as I am for pre-emptive punishment. Sounds cold but it’s reality in most cases.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Y'all can flame me all you want...

But, I'd give 'em abortion, if they would shut their mouths forever about guns, and the 2nd Amendment.

But, they won't... so, it's a mute point.


Plus 1 on this...😎
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Middle and upper class whites don’t abort their kids


Not with the same frequency for sure, but they still do it. Add to that the fact they are not having any (or very few) whilst the meskins' are and there's your issue.
Trump may not win his next election but it wont be because of him, it would be because the kids got their feelers hurt and ran out on him.
Originally Posted by rickt300
What a lot of you seem to be missing is the massive amount of money listed for military spending. This is why Trump signed the bill. Any of you consider there may be a pressing issue that involves a fully funded and fighting ready military?


Invading Mexico?

or maybe Mexifornia?
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The abortion numbers in the black community are fairly shocking. For every 1000 live births, there's 430 abortions.



As a Christian and pro-lifer, I'm supposed to find those numbers heartbreaking. But, as a realist, if those numbers are right, the fact that half the Negroes born are being done away with, somewhat lessens that feeling.



James,

Regardless of race, the vast majority of abortions are obtained by low income mothers of limited means. People who oppose abortion need to understand they are calling for more poor babies more single mothers, and more of both collecting tax dollars.

They are also advocating for more women in the permanent underclass. The single biggest predictor of life time well being for a female is that age at which she has her first child, and secondarily, if she's marred at the time.

If these young women thought it were in a position to provide a stable home, most would not be having abortions. Yet we have all these old codgers calling for smaller government and to be left alone, wanting to use the power of government to make the most personal of choices for young women.
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Any of you consider there may be a pressing issue that involves a fully funded and fighting ready military?




Maybe there's an asteroid headed our way, and they need to stock caves with top romen and planned parenthood brochures.
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