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it seems like the demos and repubs are further apart than ever before in history.

meanwhile the libertarians and greens and others are aligning with their neighbors, etc.

somehow i suspect only an outside threat would unite the diverse groups back together again.

that'd be whom? well, not canada and mexico. while different nations, they and we are very close.

and then there's the chinese, and the russians, and maybe islam as a group. but how would they impact?

what if the entire global Urth was under potential attack from one or more space forces from afar? would we unite?

the High Priests at NASA, the catholics, the japanese, the russians, and others are all heavily involved in "space exploration."
In my opinion, nothing.
I am just about to the point that I don't want to ride the same bus as the left. I would just as soon walk, but don't expect me to Keep paying for the fuel to keep the tank full.
we're definitely dealing with a difficult set of circumstances. if we don't focus our attentions on the evil outsiders such as the ruskies, the red chi-coms, and the isis cult, then what will we do with our pent-up energies?

my working and being taxed for stuff that i really don't want, and folks have never sold me on the idea, but continued to force me to pay has boggled my mind.

the federal gov't rules by police power. and we are the enforcers of the police power. good people carry guns. and we are forced to pay taxes.

if i could just direct my own tax pymnts to the purposes that i choose, that would be a step forward. it would help to make things fair.
War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)
Originally Posted by szihn
War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)



Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
We are not immune to the lifecycles of other countries in past history. I can't think of any idiosyncrasy more prevalent in our lives being that, the only constant in this world is change.
Originally Posted by Gus


if i could just direct my own tax pymnts to the purposes that i choose, that would be a step forward. it would help to make things fair.


If you want a government you're gonna have to pay taxes. And, like I constantly tell my kids, "there is no such thing as "fair"!
Originally Posted by Gus
it seems like the demos and repubs are further apart than ever before in history.

meanwhile the libertarians and greens and others are aligning with their neighbors, etc.

somehow i suspect only an outside threat would unite the diverse groups back together again.

that'd be whom? well, not canada and mexico. while different nations, they and we are very close.

and then there's the chinese, and the russians, and maybe islam as a group. but how would they impact?

what if the entire global Urth was under potential attack from one or more space forces from afar? would we unite?

the High Priests at NASA, the catholics, the japanese, the russians, and others are all heavily involved in "space exploration."


We already failed to come together after Sept 11th. We got close but couldn't hold the momentum. I do not believe enough people would survive anything serious enough to bring us together to be able to do anything about it afterwards.

Trying to do something in advance about a problem? Internationally? Oh hell no. We'd form a committee to talk about it and that would be the end of action.

As long as all humans are on this one rock, we're doomed, it's only a matter of when.

Tom
Last time their was any resemblance of togetherness, 3000 people died in New York.
I'd would not like to see that happen again
What we are getting close to is being ripe for an invasion from the outside.
I believe many on the left would cheer it on unfortunately.
Lots and lots of bloodshed unfortunately.
Originally Posted by 4winds
Originally Posted by Gus


if i could just direct my own tax pymnts to the purposes that i choose, that would be a step forward. it would help to make things fair.


If you want a government you're gonna have to pay taxes. And, like I constantly tell my kids, "there is no such thing as "fair"!



i agree. with todays computers, and quantitative methods, we could begin, i say begin, to allow individual citizens to choose how their tax expenditures were dedicated. right now, everything goes into a big pot that the congress & president authorizes expenditures. we can further define the process by allowing citizens to direct their particular tax dollar pymnts to particular uses. in the cumulative analysis, the decision makers can gather a more meaningful understanding of what we, the voters demand.

demand is a powerful term. it impacts the marketplace every single day. my taxes needs to be expended for my purposes.
Originally Posted by szihn
War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)


A fantasy at best.

In reality, the commie sumbitches have been winning the war since 1964. If they effectively neuter the 2nd Amendment, then the bloodletting will begin. They are way to cowardly to start shooting with it in place. They prefer to shoot armless sheep.


No one will do a damn thing, except bitch and moan. Everyone in this country is way too comfy with their purchasing power of mass produced Chinese cshit.
replacement of the entire group of legislators and the installation of term limits. New blood, without the ties to lobbyists. Change them out often enough to avoid them being bought and paid for. Maybe get a leadership team that can work together.
Well Gus, considering we've seen a no holds barred approach by the left to "change" this country to socialism, I have to honestly say nothing will bring us together until they are eliminated completely. There in lies the problem, some people just haven't come to that conclusion yet. When you try to give an inch they try to take a mile, just no working with them as the Brits found out via the Fabian society. MB
Originally Posted by 4winds
Originally Posted by szihn
War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)


A fantasy at best.

In reality, the commie sumbitches have been winning the war since 1964. If they effectively neuter the 2nd Amendment, then the bloodletting will begin. They are way to cowardly to start shooting with it in place. They prefer to shoot armless sheep.


No one will do a damn thing, except bitch and moan. Everyone in this country is way too comfy with their purchasing power of mass produced Chinese cshit.


just saw a lever gun 12 guage shotgun made in china at a lgs. thought nothing from china was allowed. i remember the Norinco brand.

the thing was heavy, about as heavy as a BAR '06.
Originally Posted by Oakster
replacement of the entire group of legislators and the installation of term limits. New blood, without the ties to lobbyists. Change them out often enough to avoid them being bought and paid for. Maybe get a leadership team that can work together.


Would truly love to see this^^^^^^ in my lifetime, ain't gonna happen though.
Its about to happen. Trump has to arrest and lock up the bulk of the corrupt liberal politicians, Leaders of big corps and media. Do marshall law and hard no mercy arrests of the rioters. Its not going to be pretty, but will be effective.
Originally Posted by Gus
Originally Posted by 4winds
Originally Posted by Gus


if i could just direct my own tax pymnts to the purposes that i choose, that would be a step forward. it would help to make things fair.


If you want a government you're gonna have to pay taxes. And, like I constantly tell my kids, "there is no such thing as "fair"!



i agree. with todays computers, and quantitative methods, we could begin, i say begin, to allow individual citizens to choose how their tax expenditures were dedicated. right now, everything goes into a big pot that the congress & president authorizes expenditures. we can further define the process by allowing citizens to direct their particular tax dollar pymnts to particular uses. in the cumulative analysis, the decision makers can gather a more meaningful understanding of what we, the voters demand.

demand is a powerful term. it impacts the marketplace every single day. my taxes needs to be expended for my purposes.


You won't get a say. The government takes the most they can without riling the peasants to pitchforks. And they will spend that money any damned way they please. And grow in strength everyday by doing so. Until all the peasants have finally had enough and start building their guillotines...sound familiar?
It won't be zombies.
Originally Posted by szihn
War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)

Essentially, I agree.

The problem is the evil that communism brings along with it. Having eliminated God and things of value, satan and things of evil arise to take the place of the good in man.
Originally Posted by Coop2564
Its about to happen. Trump has to arrest and lock up the bulk of the corrupt liberal politicians, Leaders of big corps and media. Do marshall law and hard no mercy arrests of the rioters. Its not going to be pretty, but will be effective.



Not going to happen.

Don't forget that 1/2 the voters out there put those POS in power and have no inclination to stop purchasing from the lobbyist companies subverting those who were voted in.

Gotta solve the voter problem first or it will be the same or worse replacing those that were eliminated.
i just want my taxes paid to be allocated to the causes that i care about. that's all. is that asking too much?

with the modern day computers, and accounting programs it wouldn't be all that difficult.

the IRS is a pretty good arbiter of how funds are collected.

i want to have a voice in how my taxes are spent.
So do I! Don't hold you're breath too long, though...
In the end, there's always baseball....
We need the India/Pakistan solution. It's the only solution that has any chance.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by szihn
War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)



Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding



Yep.
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by Oakster
replacement of the entire group of legislators and the installation of term limits. New blood, without the ties to lobbyists. Change them out often enough to avoid them being bought and paid for. Maybe get a leadership team that can work together.


Would truly love to see this^^^^^^ in my lifetime, ain't gonna happen though.


I think we are beyond voting our way out of it.

Now, if you starting hanging the ones that are traitors.. The rest may not be so willing to sell out.
I want the Democratic Party voted into oblivion and insignificance. Once accomplished we can vote out the RINOS and Deep State..

I know..., you can wish in one and and....,
We may have seen our best days in the Reagan years.
Originally Posted by Oakster
replacement of the entire group of legislators and the installation of term limits. New blood, without the ties to lobbyists. Change them out often enough to avoid them being bought and paid for. Maybe get a leadership team that can work together.


Maybe Tom ClanCy had the right idea.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
We need the India/Pakistan solution. It's the only solution that has any chance.

What is that? I wasn't aware they found one.
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by szihn
War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)



Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding



Yep.


[Linked Image]
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
We need the India/Pakistan solution. It's the only solution that has any chance.

What is that? I wasn't aware they found one.

Used to be one nation of India. That didn't work due to irreconcilable differences. The solution was to split the country into two, and separate.
I big pile of ammo and a high fire rate ....would work well imo
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by Oakster
replacement of the entire group of legislators and the installation of term limits. New blood, without the ties to lobbyists. Change them out often enough to avoid them being bought and paid for. Maybe get a leadership team that can work together.


Would truly love to see this^^^^^^ in my lifetime, ain't gonna happen though.


I think we are beyond voting our way out of it.

Now, if you starting hanging the ones that are traitors.. The rest may not be so willing to sell out.



Great idea, at least until some view YOU as the traitor.
Originally Posted by T_O_M
Originally Posted by Gus
it seems like the demos and repubs are further apart than ever before in history.

meanwhile the libertarians and greens and others are aligning with their neighbors, etc.

somehow i suspect only an outside threat would unite the diverse groups back together again.

that'd be whom? well, not canada and mexico. while different nations, they and we are very close.

and then there's the chinese, and the russians, and maybe islam as a group. but how would they impact?

what if the entire global Urth was under potential attack from one or more space forces from afar? would we unite?

the High Priests at NASA, the catholics, the japanese, the russians, and others are all heavily involved in "space exploration."


We already failed to come together after Sept 11th. We got close but couldn't hold the momentum. I do not believe enough people would survive anything serious enough to bring us together to be able to do anything about it afterwards.

Trying to do something in advance about a problem? Internationally? Oh hell no. We'd form a committee to talk about it and that would be the end of action.

As long as all humans are on this one rock, we're doomed, it's only a matter of when.

Tom
I have a different viewpoint than you on the subject of 9/11. There was never any real "coming together" by the left after 9/11. They were conspicuously absent from any meaningful patriotic activity for several weeks. They chose to cower under a rock and wait for someone else to do the heavy lifting and protect them. They are cowards.
Turn the TV off.
Originally Posted by 4winds
Originally Posted by Coop2564
Its about to happen. Trump has to arrest and lock up the bulk of the corrupt liberal politicians, Leaders of big corps and media. Do marshall law and hard no mercy arrests of the rioters. Its not going to be pretty, but will be effective.



Not going to happen.

Don't forget that 1/2 the voters out there put those POS in power and have no inclination to stop purchasing from the lobbyist companies subverting those who were voted in.

Gotta solve the voter problem first or it will be the same or worse replacing those that were eliminated.


You can't solve the voter problem without purging the media and demoncrap leadership, and throw in, or out, the lieberal academia. From that tripartite of evil flows all the lies stuffing simple minded heads and keeping them in power and employed.
I dont beleive we are near as divided as we think...or the [bleep] media says we are.


Its a trap fellas.

They need us pissed off at each other.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Turn the TV off.



Post of the thread!
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
We need the India/Pakistan solution. It's the only solution that has any chance.


You mean this?.....pretty hard to be mad at your enemy when you’re laughing so hard at their dignifying costumes and awesome bird dance. 😂




Originally Posted by callnum
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by Raeford
Originally Posted by Oakster
replacement of the entire group of legislators and the installation of term limits. New blood, without the ties to lobbyists. Change them out often enough to avoid them being bought and paid for. Maybe get a leadership team that can work together.


Would truly love to see this^^^^^^ in my lifetime, ain't gonna happen though.


I think we are beyond voting our way out of it.

Now, if you starting hanging the ones that are traitors.. The rest may not be so willing to sell out.



Great idea, at least until some view YOU as the traitor.


I guess I wouldn't be able to do it alone, huh? wink

They gonna put 62 million of us in jail?
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I dont beleive we are near as divided as we think...or the [bleep] media says we are.


Its a trap fellas.

They need us pissed off at each other.

I think there's much truth in what you say. We are presented an image of a roughly evenly divided nation between nutcase leftists and sensible Americans, but I think it's nowhere near fifty-fifty. The nutcases are likely a relatively small minority whose importance is elevated by the distortions of the MSM and the controllers of mainstream culture.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
We need the India/Pakistan solution. It's the only solution that has any chance.


You mean this?.....pretty hard to be mad at your enemy when you’re laughing so hard at their dignifying costumes and awesome bird dance. 😂





I guess I'm the only one here familiar with the history of India. After years of strife (following independence), they finally decided to divide into two nations, where half the people in each of the two regions picked up and moved to the other, matching their viewpoint and culture.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
I dont beleive we are near as divided as we think...or the [bleep] media says we are.


Its a trap fellas.

They need us pissed off at each other.

I think there's much truth in what you say. We are presented an image of a roughly evenly divided nation between nutcase leftists and sensible Americans, but I think it's nowhere near fifty-fifty. The nutcases are likely a relatively small minority whose importance is elevated by the distortions of the MSM and the controllers of mainstream culture.


The entire media narrative 24/7 is to divide us.

Obama was the master. The media keeps it going for him.


Originally Posted by wabigoon
We may have seen our best days in the Reagan years.


Anyone born between 1946 and 1962 would have been alive to live during the greatest time to be alive on this planet.

Today really is not a great time compared to the 50’s and 60’s. All the negative things we have today and even during the Reagan years, weren’t there in the 50’s and 60’s. Laws, economics, freedom, lifestyle, and access to all those have become so encumbered, we will never again see the days we had then.

Life can be better than it is now but never again like it was...
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

I guess I'm the only one here familiar with the history of India. After years of strife (following independence), they finally decided to divide into two nations, where half the people in each of the two regions picked up and moved to the other, matching their viewpoint and culture.


Austin, TX is gonna be one empty SOB. smile
Agree with both you and Jim. There is a significant number of batsshitt crazy liberals though and they relentlessly wear down their more grounded liberal friends until they’re batshitt crazy. I’m telling you that liberalism is a mental didease and it IS highly virulent.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights





Somewhere in a southern agricultural college a drum line is green with envy...
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
We need the India/Pakistan solution. It's the only solution that has any chance.


You mean this?.....pretty hard to be mad at your enemy when you’re laughing so hard at their dignifying costumes and awesome bird dance. 😂





I guess I'm the only one here familiar with the history of India. After years of strife (following independence), they finally decided to divide into two nations, where half the people in each of the two regions picked up and moved to the other, matching their viewpoint and culture.


No you’re not Mr. Smarty Pants but you are the only one here devoid of a sense of humor. 😉 My post was meant to be humorous and lighthearted, not an overview of India’s history.

Sorry to derail the thread.

The serious answer to the OP is I believe nothing short of a mass cleansing through civil war will ever “bring the country back together again”. The loss of 60-80 million liberals would do this nation a great benefit and ensure the Umion’s continued prosperity for another 242+ years. Some lessons have to be taught and learned the hard way just like George Washington and his group of patriots did. Contingency plan for permanent shipment back to where the enemies come from or IDENTIFY with. If you’re x-American you’ll be shipped back to x. Thereby saving yourself and your family from being considered enemy combatants actively seeking to undermine our Constitution.
Jeebus! The partition of India was no picnic!

Tens of thousands were killed!
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Jeebus! The partition of India was no picnic!

Tens of thousands were killed!

The only alternative is a civil war. I'm OK with either, so long as it works.
Unfortunately when neither side can resolve the issues this is when genocide can occur. Many die and whats left of the losers become refugees.
Well, we could end up like the Palestinians.

No Arab or Muslim country in the world wants them. They are supported only to cause violence and turmoil.
In no particular order:
1) personal responsibility for ones actions or inactions.
2) treat others as you would want to be treated.
3) the even application of the rule of law.
4) no special privileges for any group.
5) legal decisions must be based on the constitution and the Bill of Rights.
6) I detest anything Kennedy, but JFK had one thing right; its not what the country can do for you, but what you can do for the country.
7) servant leaders.
8) recall.
9) civil litigation decisions based on law and reasonable actions.
10) no social engineering.
11) no apologizing for the past. We can't change it and it isn't going to fix the future.
12) respect your country.
Originally Posted by AB2506
In no particular order:
1) personal responsibility for ones actions or inactions.
2) treat others as you would want to be treated.
3) the even application of the rule of law.
4) no special privileges for any group.
5) legal decisions must be based on the constitution and the Bill of Rights.
6) I detest anything Kennedy, but JFK had one thing right; its not what the country can do for you, but what you can do for the country.
7) servant leaders.
8) recall.
9) civil litigation decisions based on law and reasonable actions.
10) no social engineering.
11) no apologizing for the past. We can't change it and it isn't going to fix the future.
12) respect your country.



Adherence to the Rule of Law, with no double standard.
Gus: Make nofuckin mistake about this - "I" do NOT want to come together with the demonrats/liberals/socialists/anti-Americans!
PEER-E-[bleep]-ID!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
Getting rid of the teachers that sat this up through the schools (public and private)
Teach that this is the US and if your home country is so great RETURN to it for 15 years or so

Then look at what is missing to make people assimilate into being US citizens
If all the radical Saul Alinsky Leftists in the Democrat party would move to the Communist country of their choice, we will have a chance of coming together. Otherwise, how do you propose to get along with radical Leftists that want to ruin the country you love?
Originally Posted by reivertom
If all the radical Saul Alinsky Leftists in the Democrat party would move to the Communist country of their choice, we will have a chance of coming together. Otherwise, how do you propose to get along with radical Leftists that want to ruin the country you love?


Midnight disappearings?
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
In my opinion, nothing.


Nothing short of a war, or a common enemy.

America is more divide now then shortly after the Civil War.

[Linked Image]
Originally Posted by T_O_M


As long as all humans are on this one rock, we're doomed, it's only a matter of when.

Tom


Humans, ..seems we can't live with them and yet we certainly won't be able to live without them... grin

Originally Posted by Gus

the federal gov't rules by police power. and we are the enforcers of the police power. good people carry guns.
and we are forced to pay taxes.


well If you can get enough 'good' people with guns to agree on not paying taxes, what can gov. really do....?
Get money out of politics...

No more funding of elections or PACs of any sort.
Originally Posted by Northman
Get money out of politics...

No more funding of elections or PACs of any sort.


Well, conservatives would comply, but leftists break all the laws and would just find ways around it. Like they do now.
Originally Posted by Northman
Get money out of politics...

No more funding of elections or PACs of any sort.


Should of known, a liberal would show us with a solution that involved gutting The Constitution.
I'm guessing a game of cowboys vs communists is in order at some point.
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
I'm guessing a game of cowboys vs communists is in order at some point.


Not while the economies still strong, but things could get interesting if we have a prolong downturn.....
Honor the Lord, Thy God & love your neighbor as yourself.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Turn the TV off.


+1

Other than the MSM, I don't see all this division when I go to town to do normal business. I see people interacting like normal. Everything from hippies, to ranchers, to young to old.

Yes we have our share of normal crimes, including violent crimes. But I don't see any violence based on politics.

The MSM wants you to feel hopelessly divided, and Trump is the cause. It's really not as bad as it looks on the news.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

I guess I'm the only one here familiar with the history of India. After years of strife (following independence), they finally decided to divide into two nations, where half the people in each of the two regions picked up and moved to the other, matching their viewpoint and culture.

I had to quit reading, but you are right.

Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
We need the India/Pakistan solution. It's the only solution that has any chance.

I have been saying we need a divorce with the Northeast and the left coast, followed by the inevitable mass trans location of the population as our fruitcakes and leeches move out and their productive citizens come to live with us. It is way past time for this unhappy marriage to end and go its separate ways.
I'd rather keep Oregon and send the communists to Nicaragua.
Conservatives aren’t giving up the west! My ancestors struggled and stoicly faced incredible privations to get west, get free, get out of the city, get away from liberals and GO WEST! I have a ancestor that was a signer of the Declaration of Independence out of New Hampshire but many others looked for a better life out west.

West coast liberals get sent east by the trainloads rugged individualism will prosper once again. The homeless will be the first to go and get their choice of homes, primo homes in primo neighborhoods. Let the liberals set up their utopia just leave us out west the [bleep] alone.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
I'd rather keep Oregon and send the communists to Nicaragua.

I don't blame you,Oregon is a beautiful and wealthy state. My lovely bride and I toured rural Northern California and Oregon 2 summers ago. Except for our landing in San Francisco which is a total political s---hole and our departure from Portland which seemed a city of bums I was impressed with the people out in the countryside.
Originally Posted by Raeford
What we are getting close to is being ripe for an invasion from the outside.
I believe many on the left would cheer it on unfortunately.

But only in the beginning
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
In my opinion, nothing.


Well, I think we should just "come together" on whatever battlefield the socialists pick, and just get this done. We need to be scorched earth ruthless, make liberal prisoners dig long trenches and unload trucks of lime, and just take care of the inevitable business at hand, get it done, and the conservatives can get on with America, and put this nightmare behind us.

That would bring us back together, those of us that made it...
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Stormin_Norman
I'm guessing a game of cowboys vs communists is in order at some point.


Not while the economies still strong, but things could get interesting if we have a prolong downturn.....

Based on my experience with hurricanes if you turn the power off people get pretty irritable.
what could possibly bring America back together again?


The Rapture.

All of the liberals will be left on earth, although many conservatives too. The liberals will greatly outnumber the fewer conservatives that remain.

Then, as they swear their allegiance to the Anti-Christ, they will be unified for up to 7 years.
I must say that I cannot think of anything, but some honest politicians that love the country more than their party, winning and enriching themselves might be a good start.
Originally Posted by shawlerbrook
I must say that I cannot think of anything, but some honest politicians that love the country more than their party, winning and enriching themselves might be a good start.

They love their seat more than their party or their country. If they fear their party as if they dont toe the party line right or wrong they dont get the support come election time or worse the party runs another person who will. It all about them which is why term limits and reform on their benefits are critical. But I doubt it will ever happen. As its not in their interest to do so.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Jeebus! The partition of India was no picnic!

Tens of thousands were killed!

The only alternative is a civil war. I'm OK with either, so long as it works.

So you are ok with the destruction and death of hundreds of thousands, not to mention the end of the United States? "OK"?
If you possibly think we are not in serious trouble as a nation, check out Texas of all places. Polls indicate that Cruz could lose the senate race. I stalked one of our young Texas relatives on facebook to see who his friends are (about 750) and what they are thinking. The only one I looked up was a Sissi Yoda. First up she touted a rally for Cruz"s opponent. The claim was that it was the largest rally since Barack's in Portland, OR. Her political views which are apparently shared by huge numbers of young Texans are extremely radical to say the least. Add to them the folks that find Ted abrasive and just "not nice" and I could see Texas going down the abyss.
Modern Revolutions are generally started by whichever side has the most useful idiots without anything to lose. So does that most resemble them or us?
Originally Posted by jorgeI
So you are ok with the destruction and death of hundreds of thousands, not to mention the end of the United States? "OK"?

My preference would be the peaceful breaking up of the U.S. into more manageable smaller countries that consist of people who belong together. I understand it would be a complicated process and very hard to accomplish. But we do NOT belong together anymore. TRH understands the problem and I think understands the difficulty of curing it.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
We need the India/Pakistan solution. It's the only solution that has any chance.

What is that? I wasn't aware they found one.

Used to be one nation of India. That didn't work due to irreconcilable differences. The solution was to split the country into two, and separate.

Of course, but that did not end their problems with four wars and much angst since.
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by jorgeI
So you are ok with the destruction and death of hundreds of thousands, not to mention the end of the United States? "OK"?

My preference would be the peaceful breaking up of the U.S. into more manageable smaller countries that consist of people who belong together. I understand it would be a complicated process and very hard to accomplish. But we do NOT belong together anymore. TRH understands the problem and I think understands the difficulty of curing it.



Then you get "ethnic" cleansing, cross border raids, and extreme competition for resources.
Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by reivertom
If all the radical Saul Alinsky Leftists in the Democrat party would move to the Communist country of their choice, we will have a chance of coming together. Otherwise, how do you propose to get along with radical Leftists that want to ruin the country you love?


Midnight disappearings?

There are shift changes at midnight and the bars are still open. 3:45 AM.
Originally Posted by Hastings
. Polls indicate that Cruz could lose the senate race.


nope: Election 2018 - Texas Senate - realclearpolitics.com
Race Analysis. 9/25/2018 -- The latest Quinnipiac puts Cruz ahead by a comfortable 54-45
Originally Posted by Hastings
TRH understands the problem and I think understands the difficulty of curing it.


Game, set and match....
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by Hastings
. Polls indicate that Cruz could lose the senate race.


nope: Election 2018 - Texas Senate - realclearpolitics.com
Race Analysis. 9/25/2018 -- The latest Quinnipiac puts Cruz ahead by a comfortable 54-45





I was serious fellas. Turn the TV off.

If you watch cartoons like I do, there is no possible way that the MSM can get to you.
Originally Posted by Savage_Hunter
what could possibly bring America back together again?


The Rapture.

All of the liberals will be left on earth, although many conservatives too. The liberals will greatly outnumber the fewer conservatives that remain.

Then, as they swear their allegiance to the Anti-Christ, they will be unified for up to 7 years.


Spot on...:)
I'm afraid all the king's horses, and all the king's men can not put the USA together again. frown
An attack of similar magnitude to 9/11 would bring us together for awhile. A nuclear strike or large scale attack would bring us together for longer, but as soon as peace and some semblance of prosperity returned the left would pick up right where they left off.
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I'm afraid all the king's horses, and all the king's men can not put the USA together again. frown



You think so?


Whats different?



I guess I dont see anything remotely close as you fellas.


This county is half white and half republican.

There should be killings every day.....right??
I'm glad for your optimization Jim. I keep remembering the story of The Little Red Hen. The liberals/democrats on or near the coasts. seem to think the work will do it's self. All the government aid comes from nowhere.
Poorly said I'm sure.
Gus only this one for any amount of time.


what if the entire global Urth was under potential attack from one or more space forces from afar? would we unite?


Otherwise than that
Liberal Socialist Democrats
are the enemy......
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Then you get "ethnic" cleansing, cross border raids, and extreme competition for resources.

I believe our part of the country could handle all that. We would get to write a new constitution that would clarify right to keep and bear arms, cruel and unusual punishment, natural born citizen, private property rights, and a whole bunch of stuff that courts have twisted up. It boggles the mind to think of what could be addressed and rectified, such as taxes, religion, government intrusion. We could get the government out of being involved in marriage and religion unless of course someone was using it as a pretext for abuse. Just maybe we could quit spending our money on foreign adventures. States could go back to running the show.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Jeebus! The partition of India was no picnic!

Tens of thousands were killed!

The only alternative is a civil war. I'm OK with either, so long as it works.

So you are ok with the destruction and death of hundreds of thousands, not to mention the end of the United States? "OK"?

If that were the result, then it couldn't be said to have worked, right?
Summarily execute all lieberals with extreme prejudice.
It is easy now to see how Hitler got his start. You guys are amazingly quick to ditch every Constitutional and American principle there is in the name of getting your way and allowing no other. Got the ovens warmed up, the mass graves dug, the gas chambers built?
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
It is easy now to see how Hitler got his start. You guys are amazingly quick to ditch every Constitutional and American principle there is in the name of getting your way and allowing no other. Got the ovens warmed up, the mass graves dug, the gas chambers built?


You are talking about the Leftists' plans and goals?

How about calming down, healing rifts, and working together for a country beneficial to all?
If fridge gal can't do it, nothing can.
Originally Posted by Steelhead
If fridge gal can't do it, nothing can.



I think she could do it. fridge gal can do anything
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
It is easy now to see how Hitler got his start. You guys are amazingly quick to ditch every Constitutional and American principle there is in the name of getting your way and allowing no other. Got the ovens warmed up, the mass graves dug, the gas chambers built?

Unbelievable. Lieberals have ignored the Constitution for decades. It is meaningless to them. And they want to take our guns so they can be the ones putting us in the ovens. You don't think we know that. Lieberals are pushing socialism now hard, while ignoring it has never worked one place. You are either blind, lying or an idiot. Likely all three.
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
It is easy now to see how Lenin got his start. Communists are amazingly quick to ditch every Constitutional and American principle there is in the name of getting their way and allowing no other. Got the reeducation camps opened, the mass graves dug, the gas chambers built?


I agree totally, and his protege Stalin was even worse, to say nothing of Mao and Pol Pot. They killed way more people than Hitler but for some reason get much better PR.
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
It is easy now to see how Hitler got his start. You guys are amazingly quick to ditch every Constitutional and American principle there is in the name of getting your way and allowing no other. Got the ovens warmed up, the mass graves dug, the gas chambers built?

Unbelievable. Lieberals have ignored the Constitution for decades. It is meaningless to them. And they want to take our guns so they can be the ones putting us in the ovens. You don't think we know that. Lieberals are pushing socialism now hard, while ignoring it has never worked one place. You are either blind, lying or an idiot. Likely all three.



The people here, on 24hr, are the ones advocating mass murder - aren't you reading along?
That's what the poundmetoo movement is about. Removing the one common bond among men, pussy.

Liberal, educated, uneducated, hunter, non-hunter, businessman, plumber, we love pussy. Now the twats want men to feel bad when they talk, think and grab pussy.

Good luck
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
It is easy now to see how Hitler got his start. You guys are amazingly quick to ditch every Constitutional and American principle there is in the name of getting your way and allowing no other. Got the ovens warmed up, the mass graves dug, the gas chambers built?

Unbelievable. Lieberals have ignored the Constitution for decades. It is meaningless to them. And they want to take our guns so they can be the ones putting us in the ovens. You don't think we know that. Lieberals are pushing socialism now hard, while ignoring it has never worked one place. You are either blind, lying or an idiot. Likely all three.



The people here, on 24hr, are the ones advocating mass murder - aren't you reading along?



I saw no mention of abortion.
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
It is easy now to see how Hitler got his start. You guys are amazingly quick to ditch every Constitutional and American principle there is in the name of getting your way and allowing no other. Got the ovens warmed up, the mass graves dug, the gas chambers built?

Unbelievable. Lieberals have ignored the Constitution for decades. It is meaningless to them. And they want to take our guns so they can be the ones putting us in the ovens. You don't think we know that. Lieberals are pushing socialism now hard, while ignoring it has never worked one place. You are either blind, lying or an idiot. Likely all three.



The people here, on 24hr, are the ones advocating mass murder - aren't you reading along?

All three. Got it.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure,”
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
[quote=RickyD][quote=LeroyBeans]The people here, on 24hr, are the ones advocating mass murder - aren't you reading along?

I believe if you check what I've posted you will see my posts advocate a peaceful separation. You folks are like some of my friends and neighbors. I could probably even like you. Just don't want you having anything to do with how I manage my business and my life. I have likened it to a divorce, hopefully an amicable divorce. This country is big enough to split up into several countries.
Originally Posted by RickyD
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure,”



Bullschit.


Every generation loses piece of its identity as the new generation tries to find their own.


Ask your daddy, grandaddy....or great grandaddy.
Get rid of all the dimocreeps would be a good starting point.
Originally Posted by TnBigBore
An attack of similar magnitude to 9/11 would bring us together for awhile. A nuclear strike or large scale attack would bring us together for longer, but as soon as peace and some semblance of prosperity returned the left would pick up right where they left off.


Yep.

We were pretty united during WWII. Not sure another world war is really a good solution to our differences.
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
[quote=RickyD][quote=LeroyBeans]The people here, on 24hr, are the ones advocating mass murder - aren't you reading along?

I believe if you check what I've posted you will see my posts advocate a peaceful separation. You folks are like some of my friends and neighbors. I could probably even like you. Just don't want you having anything to do with how I manage my business and my life. I have likened it to a divorce, hopefully an amicable divorce. This country is big enough to split up into several countries.


That last time a separation was attempted 600,000 Americans ended up dead. That would be the equivalent of 20,000,000 today.
WGAF
Originally Posted by Hammer2506
WGAF


Americans actually. REAL Americans.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
[quote=RickyD][quote=LeroyBeans]The people here, on 24hr, are the ones advocating mass murder - aren't you reading along?

I believe if you check what I've posted you will see my posts advocate a peaceful separation. You folks are like some of my friends and neighbors. I could probably even like you. Just don't want you having anything to do with how I manage my business and my life. I have likened it to a divorce, hopefully an amicable divorce. This country is big enough to split up into several countries.


That last time a separation was attempted 600,000 Americans ended up dead. That would be the equivalent of 20,000,000 today.



People inflation??
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
[quote=RickyD][quote=LeroyBeans]The people here, on 24hr, are the ones advocating mass murder - aren't you reading along?

I believe if you check what I've posted you will see my posts advocate a peaceful separation. You folks are like some of my friends and neighbors. I could probably even like you. Just don't want you having anything to do with how I manage my business and my life. I have likened it to a divorce, hopefully an amicable divorce. This country is big enough to split up into several countries.


That last time a separation was attempted 600,000 Americans ended up dead. That would be the equivalent of 20,000,000 today.



People inflation??


Yep,

We got a few more people living here today than we did then.
A Reign of Terror as in the French Revolution. I'm not advocating it.
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