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it seems like the demos and repubs are further apart than ever before in history.

meanwhile the libertarians and greens and others are aligning with their neighbors, etc.

somehow i suspect only an outside threat would unite the diverse groups back together again.

that'd be whom? well, not canada and mexico. while different nations, they and we are very close.

and then there's the chinese, and the russians, and maybe islam as a group. but how would they impact?

what if the entire global Urth was under potential attack from one or more space forces from afar? would we unite?

the High Priests at NASA, the catholics, the japanese, the russians, and others are all heavily involved in "space exploration."



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In my opinion, nothing.

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I am just about to the point that I don't want to ride the same bus as the left. I would just as soon walk, but don't expect me to Keep paying for the fuel to keep the tank full.

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we're definitely dealing with a difficult set of circumstances. if we don't focus our attentions on the evil outsiders such as the ruskies, the red chi-coms, and the isis cult, then what will we do with our pent-up energies?

my working and being taxed for stuff that i really don't want, and folks have never sold me on the idea, but continued to force me to pay has boggled my mind.

the federal gov't rules by police power. and we are the enforcers of the police power. good people carry guns. and we are forced to pay taxes.

if i could just direct my own tax pymnts to the purposes that i choose, that would be a step forward. it would help to make things fair.


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War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)

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Originally Posted by szihn
War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)



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We are not immune to the lifecycles of other countries in past history. I can't think of any idiosyncrasy more prevalent in our lives being that, the only constant in this world is change.

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Originally Posted by Gus


if i could just direct my own tax pymnts to the purposes that i choose, that would be a step forward. it would help to make things fair.


If you want a government you're gonna have to pay taxes. And, like I constantly tell my kids, "there is no such thing as "fair"!

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Originally Posted by Gus
it seems like the demos and repubs are further apart than ever before in history.

meanwhile the libertarians and greens and others are aligning with their neighbors, etc.

somehow i suspect only an outside threat would unite the diverse groups back together again.

that'd be whom? well, not canada and mexico. while different nations, they and we are very close.

and then there's the chinese, and the russians, and maybe islam as a group. but how would they impact?

what if the entire global Urth was under potential attack from one or more space forces from afar? would we unite?

the High Priests at NASA, the catholics, the japanese, the russians, and others are all heavily involved in "space exploration."


We already failed to come together after Sept 11th. We got close but couldn't hold the momentum. I do not believe enough people would survive anything serious enough to bring us together to be able to do anything about it afterwards.

Trying to do something in advance about a problem? Internationally? Oh hell no. We'd form a committee to talk about it and that would be the end of action.

As long as all humans are on this one rock, we're doomed, it's only a matter of when.

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Last time their was any resemblance of togetherness, 3000 people died in New York.
I'd would not like to see that happen again


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What we are getting close to is being ripe for an invasion from the outside.
I believe many on the left would cheer it on unfortunately.


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Lots and lots of bloodshed unfortunately.


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if i could just direct my own tax pymnts to the purposes that i choose, that would be a step forward. it would help to make things fair.


If you want a government you're gonna have to pay taxes. And, like I constantly tell my kids, "there is no such thing as "fair"!



i agree. with todays computers, and quantitative methods, we could begin, i say begin, to allow individual citizens to choose how their tax expenditures were dedicated. right now, everything goes into a big pot that the congress & president authorizes expenditures. we can further define the process by allowing citizens to direct their particular tax dollar pymnts to particular uses. in the cumulative analysis, the decision makers can gather a more meaningful understanding of what we, the voters demand.

demand is a powerful term. it impacts the marketplace every single day. my taxes needs to be expended for my purposes.


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Originally Posted by szihn
War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)


A fantasy at best.

In reality, the commie sumbitches have been winning the war since 1964. If they effectively neuter the 2nd Amendment, then the bloodletting will begin. They are way to cowardly to start shooting with it in place. They prefer to shoot armless sheep.


No one will do a damn thing, except bitch and moan. Everyone in this country is way too comfy with their purchasing power of mass produced Chinese cshit.

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replacement of the entire group of legislators and the installation of term limits. New blood, without the ties to lobbyists. Change them out often enough to avoid them being bought and paid for. Maybe get a leadership team that can work together.

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Well Gus, considering we've seen a no holds barred approach by the left to "change" this country to socialism, I have to honestly say nothing will bring us together until they are eliminated completely. There in lies the problem, some people just haven't come to that conclusion yet. When you try to give an inch they try to take a mile, just no working with them as the Brits found out via the Fabian society. MB


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Originally Posted by 4winds
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War, ---------- with the communists losing 100%

You see, when the communists have won in other nations they still can't get along with other communists. That's the very nature of making a man-made ideology into your god. Every man wants power and to be "safe" every man has to force his ideology on everyone else.

Constitutional Republic = Leave every man alone until that man infringes on the rights of another.

Socialism/Communism = Force every man to agree with you at any cost, to the point of violence. (Varied opinions always = more violence)


A fantasy at best.

In reality, the commie sumbitches have been winning the war since 1964. If they effectively neuter the 2nd Amendment, then the bloodletting will begin. They are way to cowardly to start shooting with it in place. They prefer to shoot armless sheep.


No one will do a damn thing, except bitch and moan. Everyone in this country is way too comfy with their purchasing power of mass produced Chinese cshit.


just saw a lever gun 12 guage shotgun made in china at a lgs. thought nothing from china was allowed. i remember the Norinco brand.

the thing was heavy, about as heavy as a BAR '06.


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replacement of the entire group of legislators and the installation of term limits. New blood, without the ties to lobbyists. Change them out often enough to avoid them being bought and paid for. Maybe get a leadership team that can work together.


Would truly love to see this^^^^^^ in my lifetime, ain't gonna happen though.


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Its about to happen. Trump has to arrest and lock up the bulk of the corrupt liberal politicians, Leaders of big corps and media. Do marshall law and hard no mercy arrests of the rioters. Its not going to be pretty, but will be effective.


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Originally Posted by Gus
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if i could just direct my own tax pymnts to the purposes that i choose, that would be a step forward. it would help to make things fair.


If you want a government you're gonna have to pay taxes. And, like I constantly tell my kids, "there is no such thing as "fair"!



i agree. with todays computers, and quantitative methods, we could begin, i say begin, to allow individual citizens to choose how their tax expenditures were dedicated. right now, everything goes into a big pot that the congress & president authorizes expenditures. we can further define the process by allowing citizens to direct their particular tax dollar pymnts to particular uses. in the cumulative analysis, the decision makers can gather a more meaningful understanding of what we, the voters demand.

demand is a powerful term. it impacts the marketplace every single day. my taxes needs to be expended for my purposes.


You won't get a say. The government takes the most they can without riling the peasants to pitchforks. And they will spend that money any damned way they please. And grow in strength everyday by doing so. Until all the peasants have finally had enough and start building their guillotines...sound familiar?

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