There is a new Wall Street rule for the #MeToo era, and it is: Avoid Women at Costs. It is new policy in many Wall Street firms, avoid women at all costs.

A Wall Street Journal story here. It’s a true story: “Wall Street Rule for the #MeToo Era: Avoid Women at All Cost.” These are some of the strategies that Wall Street firms have put into place. No more dinners with female colleagues. No sitting next to them on flights. If you travel with a female colleague, book your hotel room on different floors. Avoid one-on-one meetings.

A wealth adviser said, just hiring a woman these days is an unknown risk. What if she took something wrong when you say something lightheartedly? It’s being called the Pence Effect. You know, Mike Pence said that he avoids dining alone with any woman other than his wife. They mocked him and they made fun of him. But this is what’s now becoming of the #MeToo movement. Men are not going to take the risk at all, which means not hiring them.

RUSH: No, no. I’m not making any of this up, and I’m not even exaggerating. I’m telling you exactly — this is a story, it’s in Bloomberg, and it is the result of interviews with more than 30 senior executives at Wall Street firms who are totally spooked by the #MeToo movement. They are totally spooked by the fact that five years, 10 years after the fact, women are coming out of the woodwork and are alleging things. And all they have to do is allege and the demand is that we believe them like during the Kavanaugh circumstance.

If there is travel, business travel, either separate flights, separate classes of the airplane, and different floors in the hotel. These are just some of the policies that have been implemented. Of course there’s gonna be a backlash to this. “Why, this is discrimination. This is unfair to women. They’re not gonna have promotional opportunities.” Yeah, that may be. Even a promotion could be seen in 10 years, “He didn’t really intend it. He was just trying to buy his way into my apartment,” or what have you. I mean, the allegation can be anything. So even a promotion could be said to be insincere with ulterior motives.

“Stephen Zweig, an employment attorney with FordHarrison –” what is FordHarrison? Probably some consulting group. Consult on men and women working alone. “If men avoid working or traveling with women alone, or stop mentoring women for fear of being accused of sexual harassment, those men are going to back out of a sexual harassment complaint and right into a sex discrimination complaint.”

You can’t win. You can’t win. If you do everything common sense says to avoid a sexual harassment complaint, you are then guilty of discrimination.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/12/04/the-new-wall-street-rule-for-the-metoo-era/

WSJ article.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...or-the-metoo-era-avoid-women-at-all-cost

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Too ignorant to see it coming...

This is a No Win Man Trap.

Hire them, promote them, or even work with them, and you will be accused of stuff.


If you don't hire them, promote them, or refuse to work with them, you'll be accused of different stuff.

I nominate Alfalfa !!!!

95% of men are easy targets for women .

A buddy of mine manages a large operation with mostly women employees.

He wanted to implement a sort of dress code in the office.
...no cleavage...

He now wished he never opened that can of worms.

"Why, have you been looking at my chest" "How dare you".

Yes the reality of the movement has crossed into the unintended consequence area.

I traveled with women, and had dinner with them and stayed in same hotel. I did that off an on for 10 years. Never had a problem.

I have zero desire to even have a conversation with a woman other than my wife. When her friends come over, I leave.

As I’ve said for years, women are vile creatures.

YEAH, you are right...F_CK 'EM!

May as well get hung for the entire pound, as hung for an ounce.

Which is precisely why they wear that kind of clothing to begin with!

Sure you want to admit that?

They must not have been lieberal women. The lieberal women are the worst of the worst. They come from the pit of Hell.

I hope people will get their fill of this PC crap before long and start the "I don't give a F movement."

It's real easy,anytime anybody starts bitching about anything,you just look them right in the eye and say,"I don't give a F". Problem solved.

Not giving a F*ck is why we are in the predicament we are in today.

Maybe if we Gave a F*ck decades ago we could have nipped this PC crap in the bud.

I think you would have to go back further than decades.


Like centuries maybe.

I have to disagree. PC came from TRYING to respect EVERYBODY's feelings.

I heard about that yesterday... These women have brought it upon themselves - now they can live with it..

At least not that you know of right now. That’s the whole point of the article.

Yup, they've about c-hunted themselves to irrelevance, they scream equality till they want preferential treatment. hell, with lard buckets still for sale and some kind of plastic sex robots on the way, they may have f-ucked themselves over really good this time, I will admit to not watching out for them like I used too, they caused that.

I have always kept my distance from female coworkers.
Saw the mess of when other guys did not.
Don't trust any of them.

These guys have a point:

men going their own way

Al was cutting edge......

LOL, the thread title is easy to do, I don't like em any way, save a couple, have nothing in common with women on the street and certainly don't think like them.

I hired a 20 something year old secretary once. My supplier shows up the same day, sees her and pulls me aside. "Do you know she has a sexual harassment lawsuit going against her last employer?" Gulp!

Fired her that day. Not worth any risk. Guess I was actually ahead of this curve by about three decades.

The further away we get from our biological imperatives, IOW the further we get from the way we social primates evolved to survive, the worse things get and the more detrimental it is for our societies.

Women try to make themselves sexually attractive enough to entice a male to fertilize their eggs. Men compete to impress women that we are the most worthy of fertilizing those eggs. Men are attracted to healthy women of child bearing age who display attributes most associated with producing strong children. Women are attracted to men who display signs of wealth and status who are most likely to be able to provide for those children. There are other reasons to like a member of the opposite sex and especially after a stable pair bonding those reasons become less important, but they are still the bedrock foundation of all male/female relationships for homo sapiens.

Why do women wear makeup at work? The only reason for makeup is to enhance a woman's sexual attractiveness. There is absolutely no advantage that lipstick or eyeliner can provide to increase one's job performance as an administrative assistant or a CEO. Yet no matter how far up the corporate ladder a woman climbs, she still instinctively tries to present herself as sexually attractive.

Women evolved staying at the home base and taking care of the offspring in a cooperative effort with other women. Men went out and hunted in cooperative efforts, then brought that food home to the women and children. Women instinctively want to create a comfortable nest to entice the men to bring home the food they killed. Men learned to bring that food home and instinctively want to protect and provide for the females and offspring.

Porn for men consists of viewing images of the bodies of women who display attributes associated with strong children. Porn for women consists of stories about "taming" the dangerous, high status male and reducing him to a position of controllable domesticity, men who are most able to provide for and protect the physically weaker females and young children.

That worked well for a lot of millennia.

Bringing women on the hunting trip goes against all of that and really isn’t working too well.

Damnit man, good bullet dodge!

BINGO, guess he missed that by a wide margin didn't he.

Been my policy for decades also.

It's funny. Most the guys around my age at work are the same way at this point. We've seen it all and know the danger. They young guys - many of them still don't have a clue. There's gonna be a lot of gnashing of teeth in their future.

The key to avoiding all that trouble is indifference. Once they see you aren't interested in them or interesting to them (that's key), they are all someone else's problem.
Unless, of course, you're the boss. Then you're screwed.

not yet !

There are a couple of gals around here who wear pants that look like they were applied with a denim paint air brush. They have the figures to pull it off too. Dangerous!

don't avoid them because of a few bad apples , lots of nice australian women out there :

A Woman Scorned......

Another victory for Feminism.

You missed the important parts.

Winning their way back to the kitchen, one lost opportunity at a time!

When will this spill over into personal relationships where men stop seeing women all together? It's only a matter of time as no one in their right mind is going to have anything to do with a woman if she's seen as a legitimate risk in the future. This political ploy the Hysterical Left has unleashed on American men may eventually result in the unraveling of the basic social fabric of male - female relationships.

As Rush said, "Well, I can tell you what the feminazis expected to happen. The feminazis expected that men would change and stop being interested in women, except for serious things that women want to be interested in about. There will be no sexual pursuit. There will be no affectionate pursuit. None of that. Remember, the feminazis exist for the express purpose of changing and redefining basic human nature largely because it’s been so unkind to them."

It'll get worse when they get really deliberate about using it as a retirement/investment scheme. They'll shop for the most eligible marks.

Mostly from being forced to respect that which cannot legitimately be respected. My answer to that if to F'off and die, and I'll help with the latter. It's just another step on the path to marxism. Foolish lieberal lemmings don't have a clue.

Already happening!
MGTOW

That would be their best course but they need men to show them the way, and those types aren’t able to form meaningful relationships with men.

The Kavanaugh fiasco cost women a bunch. If I were and employer I'd be damned if I'd hire a woman unless I knew her.

Mostly women avoid ME at all costs. Carry on.

Duh.

Great interview here where a man dares to ask the obvious questions and gets the expected moral outrage from his interviewer:

You got to be careful, a no win situation if accused.

I once had a middle aged female co-worker lean on the door jamb of the office I was working in. I said, "Good morning, how are you?" She said, "I hate my husband, and I hate my life...." I prudently avoided being alone with her under any circumstances after that.

I worked with a lot of women, and short of a few minor fusses, never had much trouble. Maybe just lucky.

But negroes...my sentiments are exactly what many here feel in regards to women. I avoid anything to do with them...give them wider berth than I would a grizzly, and they're MUCH more dangerous!

I have a niece, 17, Hard core Bernie supporter, socialist, save the whales, all are good, yadda yadda yadda............... NO Longer...

She watched, and thought the treatment of Kavanaugh was reprehensible................... Now leans REP............. still learning, but getting there...............

And even then you seldom do. Many women wear many faces.

Pence, and others use the same type boundaries. We call them guard rails. They are red flags to keep us out of trouble. It's simply avoid putting yourself into situations where you might be tempted or accused. Everyone mocks and ridicules us but you can see the necessity for it after the Kavanaugh mess.

Sounds like many here have habitually treated people like crap. Sorry you might have a day of reckoning

Just responding to stimuli....

I can proudly say I've always treated women with respect and dignity. My wife says I was a sort of 'Woman's Libber' before it was a thing because I've always argued that anyone doing a job should be paid the same as anyone else doing it and women shouldn't make less.

That said, I believe that 'Weaponizing' the claim of sexual harassment, etc., is a slippery slope that will lead women to less equality rather than more for the exact reasons this thread started with. It you can't trust an honest interaction with another person, you naturally will avoid them. It's human nature, not sexism. It's self preservation, not discrimination.

When the the feminazis started on their campaign to criminalize being a male, they showed their true colors; that of breeding hate. Just like CNN's, Don Lemon, bent on blaming the world's ills on the white man when he said, "The biggest terror threat to the US is White Men", showing he hates whites. They both demonstrate their true aim; to breed evil, to desire destruction, to crave power at the expense of truth.

Somehow we have to turn the dialogue back towards what brings us together as a country, not what separates us. Begin to strive to become one nation again, not this collection of 'Tribes' many minorities would have us become.

When the the feminazis started on their campaign to criminalize being a male, they showed their true colors; that of breeding hate. Just like CNN's, Don Lemon, bent on blaming the world's ills on the white man when he said, "The biggest terror threat to the US is White Men", showing he hates whites. They both demonstrate their true aim; to breed evil, to desire destruction, to crave power at the expense of truth.

Somehow we have to turn the dialogue back towards what brings us together as a country, not what separates us. Begin to strive to become one nation again, not this collection of 'Tribes' many minorities would have us become.

^^^ That.
I might add that individuals get response behavior from me based on individual behavior. I am not (race, class,gender)"ist" in the least. Demanding that I unconditionally accept a class, race, sex or group, regardless of how they act will get you nowhere with me.

this is a summary of everything said so far :

I only beat the sheit outa the one's that need it. I leave the other one alone.

Fugg women,,, Oh wait, that the problem in the first place

Or accused.

The problem is, women can make up whatever they want, so the only way to avoid situations where you might be accused is to avoid women altogether.






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My response would have been - "Why not ? You're advertising!

Women are trouble, have been since the beginning of time.

I noticed that when Peterson mentioned uniforms in the work place that the moderator disagreed and quickly changed the subject. Same argument with uniforms in schools, oh no we can't have that.

This.. in a nutshell. I worked in what most men would consider the apex of target rich environments for a couple decades. Even though I was married at the time to a very attractive professional woman, that provided only minimal protection/insulation. Thankfully, I was smart enough to keep my distance.

Saw a married guy with 5 kids who built the IT company I worked for go down in flames when his beach bunny ass-istant he had elevated to near boardroom status decided to say no. His narcissism wouldn't allow him to accept that. His IT company had been sold to a giant in the entertainment industry, who retained him in a cush, highly compensated consultant capacity, complete with corner office. That burned to the ground along with him in his narcissist shroud. His ass-istant walked away with an undisclosed settlement estimated to be in the mid to high 6 figure realm, and possibly 7 figures.

That was a strong lesson I carried forward for the next 20 years.

In what decade?

The crazy radical Feminists are a like a dog, running in a circle chasing their own tail. Eventually, they catch their tail, and they begin chewing on it until it bleeds.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

A contractor in Prudhoe Bay had a lady working in the office... she had a sign in the office that said "Sexual Harassment in this area will not be reported, however it will be graded." She had the nickname "Boone and Crockett" which of course was a reference to a rack...

After a number of years she suddenly filed a suit. Obviously she won...

I work in a factory with one female floor worker.
On a different shift.

Says she is going to retire in 2 years.


Can't wait for the catered meal!

LOL......are you trying to take over my spot as the "resident racist?" I think you are........but, I do happen to agree with you.

A good woman is hard to find!!

You got that right , hanco

And THAT'S why we have problems! I'm not going to NOT look at a hot, and hotly dressed chic. I'm just not. I CAN'T not...
I love women. And hate them...

You Wyoming boys started this back in 1868 as the first state allowing universal suffrage....

True statement.

That's because uniforms (especially the gender-concealing ones he's referring to) remove a woman's greatest power over men.

Bunch of pussies!

Who can blame them, when women were in short supply and highly contested for in their domain.

Back to my point - and I offer it as a tip, with no guarantee (there are no guarantees with women).....

Being uninteresting to (most) women at work is an art. And it requires an artist's dedication. There are some rules though....

1) Don't be the boss. If you are unlucky enough to be the boss, be as inaccessible as possible (to anyone) and never, never have private one-on-one meetings with anyone in a closed room (unless recorded).
2) When at work, or int he presence of any woman you work with, or any of her friends or relatives (people talk) see to it that you never talk about yourself, your hobbies, your beliefs, your politics, your family, your house, your vacation, your favorite TV show, etc. All discussions must be all business (boring, but useful - for a few reasons). Learn to talk freely about all aspects of the business.
3) Don't dress trendy. Also - no jewelry, other than wedding ring. For you young guys - that means anything not organic to your body, including piercings and tats.
4) Don't drive new vehicles. (Sucks, I know - you'll get used to it)
5) Don't be an ass....to anyone. It just makes you a convenient target.

Pretty hard to avoid women in my vocation

And honestly for a looonng time I wasn’t trying to avoid them

But here I am approaching 60 mind you and a 17 year old and her mom hit me w a sexual harassment claim. They wanted me to give them 36K to make it go away.

F that. Against the advice of my attorney I flew to ANC and had a polygraph administered. Plus we hired a PI to interview all the other lasses there about my behavior. All came back good for me and they dropped it.

Still it’s a minefield out there.

DAMN! glad you got by that train wreck.

No schit??

Thats scary as hell.

Clearing ones name would not be enough for me, I'd immediately go to work on revenge, trouble is, they'd not know from where it came, still, lessons would be learned!

How was the 17 year old? Photos?

It's not just another step, it's a crucial step in that it gets people used to the idea of censorship of speech, actions, beliefs, and all things deemed unacceptable because they
"hurt" other people. Most "conservatives" are now quite comfortable with the idea of shutting down leftist speech and ideas. Just a prelude to the coming insurrection.

Ricky, you're right about the lemmings. A quote often attributed to Lenin speaks of "useful idiots". That can also be applied to the far-right wingnuts whose behavior works well for the narrative of the Liberals showing all people on the right are irrational, violent, and sociopathic.

Ed

Glad to see you posting again Toomanyletters, been wondering about you!

I'm guessing that in your profession it was only a matter of time until that happened. Happens in mine, too.

In my former career, I was promoted to Sergeant at the same time as a female officer. Right away we were sent to supervisors training and provided a company car to use. After the first and only day of driving with her, some smart a$$es I worked with started making comments about us driving together, making sexual allusions. I started driving my own vehicle alone after that. The boss didn't like it and tried to force me to travel with the coworker but I refused. They stopped pushing the issue but didn't like it. That female sergeant ended up being my boss eventually and the sole reason I left that job. She always felt it was a slight against her and held it against me the rest of my career. She was the most vindictive, evil person I've ever known but that's getting off topic.

I have a very wonderful wife, BUT I don`t want her or any other lady at deer camp ! this fall 2018 a dear friend wanted to bring his wife with on a elk hunt I didn`t want her to go but let her come with and at my age of 65 I should know better. well it was a terrible 2 weeks her mouth and her know it all attitude about bowhunting was terrible, next time I`ll just beat my head against a rock instead ! never -never- never again !

Work and have worked with lots of ladies, and there's only been one hint of misinterpretation in my career. Made 2 room reservations for a female graduate student and myself for 2 days on the road. On arrival there was only a single room booked which I immediately rectified. The student subsequently mentioned the event though in some unrelated touchy/feely gathering and a communication from the uppers did come down the pipe.

No appeal or chance of such there, as she had a fuller and darker mustache than I.

Why would they do something like that when still had sheep? That's inviting the vampire across the threshold.