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Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.
all the troops. Every swinging dick in Syria!
Good Man he is. MAGA!!!!
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


I wonder if this is an F. you to the swamp that denied the funding for the wall.
Put them on the Border. That'll Scald the Dema$$es.
Originally Posted by kolofardos
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


I wonder if this is an F. you to the swamp that denied the funding for the wall.


I had the same thought. If I had to guess, I would bet that he wanted them out a long time ago but got talked into keeping them there by establishment republicans. But since those jackasses won’t even give him a token amount of wall funding, he probably said “[bleep] it” and is bringing them home.
As for a prophesy about Damascus. You see, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins. Isaiah 17 V 1. Good move MR.PRESIDENT !!! Unlike President Obama , MR. PRESIDENT TRUMP knows this . Smart move, get the hell out of there. Also, there are many on the Campfire that dont believe the bible is for real and don't believe the prophesies in scripture can google up Damascus pictures. You will see that the prophesy is well on it's way.
Looking out for America's interests as opposed to looking out for Israel's interests, definitely a step in the right direction if it holds.

And what better way to piss in Chucky Schumer's lemonade.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by kolofardos
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


I wonder if this is an F. you to the swamp that denied the funding for the wall.


I had the same thought. If I had to guess, I would bet that he wanted them out a long time ago but got talked into keeping them there by establishment republicans. But since those jackasses won’t even give him a token amount of wall funding, he probably said “[bleep] it” and is bringing them home.


ya know a lot of money will be saved by this move. Maybe even enough to build a wall.......
Originally Posted by Ranger_Green
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by kolofardos
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


I wonder if this is an F. you to the swamp that denied the funding for the wall.


I had the same thought. If I had to guess, I would bet that he wanted them out a long time ago but got talked into keeping them there by establishment republicans. But since those jackasses won’t even give him a token amount of wall funding, he probably said “[bleep] it” and is bringing them home.


ya know a lot of money will be saved by this move. Maybe even enough to build a wall.......


I had that thought too...particularly if he IS going to try to divert some from the military budget to do it.
Now Trump needs to bring the troops home from Afghanistan and stop selling those weapons to Saudi Arabia that they're using to blow up Yemen.
One thing is for sure. Trump’s got the pundits scchhittin on tv.
Do you think he will reduce support for your tribe's homeland? Can you hold the ground you have without backing from the US?
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Do you think he will reduce support for your tribe's homeland? Can you hold the ground you have without backing from the US?


Try being more specific and less cryptic to the unwashed here.
Did he tell em the exact date we're pulling out?

< face palm >
Originally Posted by ihookem
As for a prophesy about Damascus. You see, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins. Isaiah 17 V 1. Good move MR.PRESIDENT !!! Unlike President Obama , MR. PRESIDENT TRUMP knows this . Smart move, get the hell out of there. Also, there are many on the Campfire that dont believe the bible is for real and don't believe the prophesies in scripture can google up Damascus pictures. You will see that the prophesy is well on it's way.



Just because all those unbelievable prophies come true doesnt mean nothing. There is one chance in 40000 trillion it was just a coincidence.

Oh yeah, and thats considered logical. grin
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


Well, Obama pulled out of Iraq and we now have a greater problem. I'll guess Syria will be a similar]r issue.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Try being more specific and less cryptic to the unwashed here.


You and I both know what I am asking.
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


Well, Obama pulled out of Iraq and we now have a greater problem. I'll guess Syria will be a similar]r issue.



Why? we didn't kill the secular dictator in Syria.
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Try being more specific and less cryptic to the unwashed here.


You and I both know what I am asking.

Uhhh, ohhh, yeah, yeah. Got it. Deep.
Originally Posted by wdvicker
Put them on the Border. That'll Scald the Dema$$es.


And have them point their guns south!
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


Well, Obama pulled out of Iraq and we now have a greater problem. I'll guess Syria will be a similar]r issue.


No fan of Obama,....but pulling out of Iraq didn't cause the problems. Going into Iraq did.
How many troops were in Syria?
2K
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.

Bring the troops home from Afghanistan and the wall would be fully funded (fifty-billion dollars) just by the savings we'd reap in one year of not being there.

Kudos to Trump for bringing them home from Syria. Everyone knows we weren't there to fight ISIS, but rather to mess with Syria, Iran, and Russia, all at the behest of Israel.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


Well, Obama pulled out of Iraq and we now have a greater problem. I'll guess Syria will be a similar]r issue.


No fan of Obama,....but pulling out of Iraq didn't cause the problems. Going into Iraq did.

Absolutely!!
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bad move..
Can you imagine what the reaction would have been if President Hillary had pulled them out.

The Democrats and the news media would have been dancing in the streets.
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I'm always waiting for the other shoe to drop when I hear news like this.

It looks like the other shoe is going to be increased aggression towards Iran.

Considering how involved Russia and especially China is with Iran, a war against them won't happen in a vacuum.

The crazies won't be satisfied until a massive nuclear exchange occurs between the 3 big powers.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netan...-against-iran-in-syria-after-us-pullout/

Netanyahu: We will step up our efforts against Iran in Syria after US pullout

“We do not plan to reduce our efforts. We will increase them, and I know that we will do this with the full support and backing from the United States of America,” he said, speaking at a trilateral summit in Beersheba with leaders from Greece and Cyprus.



Before we complete the pull out, how much do you want to bet Assad "gas attacks his own people" again?
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Before we complete the pull out, how much do you want to bet Assad "gas attacks his own people" again?


I won't bet against it.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


Well, Obama pulled out of Iraq and we now have a greater problem. I'll guess Syria will be a similar]r issue.


No fan of Obama,....but pulling out of Iraq didn't cause the problems. Going into Iraq did.


Winner winner.....
The kooks kongregate....
Originally Posted by jorgeI
The kooks kongregate....

Buchanan too??
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by jorgeI
The kooks kongregate....

Buchanan too??

Yeah, pretty much after that idiotic WWII thesis of his. Oh, I have no issues with the Syria thing. I'm not into these fighting wars not to win or takeover....
Castro's alleged plans for Cuba were once considered a kooky conspiracy theory by many people.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
The kooks kongregate....


Guess it's easier to say that than justify what we're accomplishing there besides doing Israel's bidding and/or trying to provoke a war with Russia.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Now Trump needs to bring the troops home from Afghanistan and stop selling those weapons to Saudi Arabia that they're using to blow up Yemen.


It looks like we’ll be pulling out of Afghanistan too which is a great move. As far as stopping the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia so the poor Yemenis and Houthis can get a reprieve and continue their massacres of anyone and everyone......NO! Up the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia and let them kill as many as possible because every dead SOB over there is one less SOB we’ll have to worry about down the road. I don’t GAF if SA wants to get dirty, that’s their business not ours. I only care about our foreign policy, not the foreign policy of every other country on earth. I’m surprised that you want to get involved in the foreign policy of Saudi Arabia, I thought you only cared about America’s foreign policy?

Selling arms to Saudi Arabia, a very wealthy country btw, is good for us. It’s better than GIVING arms for free and it’s better than a “lend-lease” program.

Let other countries carry some weight for once and let them fight our proxy wars for us instead of the USA being the worlds police.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Before we complete the pull out, how much do you want to bet Assad "gas attacks his own people" again?



You really believe that schitt happened?
Generals Washington and Eisenhower had the experiences to issue the warnings they did.
As long as this doesn't end for allies like Saigon in 1975, it will be a good decision.
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by jorgeI
The kooks kongregate....


Guess it's easier to say that than justify what we're accomplishing there besides doing Israel's bidding and/or trying to provoke a war with Russia.

Spot on.
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Before we complete the pull out, how much do you want to bet Assad "gas attacks his own people" again?



You really believe that schitt happened?

Notice the quotation marks.
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by jorgeI
The kooks kongregate....

Buchanan too??

Yeah, pretty much ...

You disappoint me.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by jorgeI
The kooks kongregate....


Guess it's easier to say that than justify what we're accomplishing there besides doing Israel's bidding and/or trying to provoke a war with Russia.

Spot on.

Spot OFF. i am on board 100% with the Syrian (and Afghan) pullouts, not into these half assed wars, but the sooner you realize Israel is there as OUR tool, the quicker you'll understand GEO AND REAL "Politics"
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by jorgeI
The kooks kongregate....

Buchanan too??

Yeah, pretty much ...

You disappoint me.


I see you're learning from Bristoe to cherrypick...
One less war, one less Secretary of Defense, one less adult in the room. Mattis was willing to stand up to Trump and his tantrums and give him world-view advise on how to treat allies and ugly situations.
The Brits and Russians learned their lessons in Afghanistan long ago

Good to the US pulling out. US soldiers provide g security for the current favorite war lord / tribe poppy farms
Ain't t helping national security

The Dems and Rinos and defense contractors sure love their wars and kids from Iowa, Ohio, Texas ..lose their lives for nothing


Chickenhawks and warmongers like djs love ra good war. Djs any current family members serving in combat units in Afghanistan or Syria?

Have you served in a combat unit?

I thought not
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by jorgeI
The kooks kongregate....


Guess it's easier to say that than justify what we're accomplishing there besides doing Israel's bidding and/or trying to provoke a war with Russia.

Spot on.

Spot OFF. i am on board 100% with the Syrian (and Afghan) pullouts, not into these half assed wars, but the sooner you realize Israel is there as OUR tool, the quicker you'll understand GEO AND REAL "Politics"


Jorge - I certainly oppose the US getting involved in most regional conflicts, but this seems to be a place where our presence can provide an influence.

Won't a US pullout from Syria just leave the door open a little wider for Russian and Iranian influence? I realize that 2,000 US personnel can't make an earthshaking difference on the outcome, but at least it is a position. As for, "Israel is there as OUR tool", do we need (given the Middle-East hatreds and emotions) for Israel to stir up the pot and make it boil? Israel's Air Force is its' prime projection of power and (as we learned from WW2, Vietnam, etc.) it takes land forces to occupy and control a land mass; Israel's army is great for its self-defense, but is not large enough for wider-scale projection.

I don't know how 2,000 US troops (advisors and trainers) will make a difference in Syria, but they do occupy a vital area in Northern Syria and act as a buffer between the Turks and the Kurd's. Without this buffer, I think the Turks would invade Syria and massacre the Kurd's who are allied with us in Syria.

Your opinion?
Good
djs- it isn't just 20000 troops those are eyes and ears for much larger. A crap ton of Russian 'advisors' along with Iranian operatives were killed by (or as a result of ) US and Israel.

I thought US involvement in Syria, has turned ( or maybe was all along) from removing Isis to removing russian influence in the region by denying a pipeline to Europe. I heard the idea was to stall that in order to gain time to flood the market gas from USA that was too cheap to pass up - if anyone cares to comment on that?

Although I am not automatically against the pull out of from either Syria or Afghanistan, my foremost anger is that it means we once again leave the Kurds sorry for trusting us. Maybe there is a plan for them? FWIW I am another who has doubts that Assad is the one who used nerve agents.

Lastly, I wonder if news of a Russian in Venezuela means this is some sort of new version of cuban missile crisis resolution.

Originally Posted by djs
Originally Posted by jorgeI
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by jorgeI
The kooks kongregate....


Guess it's easier to say that than justify what we're accomplishing there besides doing Israel's bidding and/or trying to provoke a war with Russia.

Spot on.

Spot OFF. i am on board 100% with the Syrian (and Afghan) pullouts, not into these half assed wars, but the sooner you realize Israel is there as OUR tool, the quicker you'll understand GEO AND REAL "Politics"


Jorge - I certainly oppose the US getting involved in most regional conflicts, but this seems to be a place where our presence can provide an influence.

Won't a US pullout from Syria just leave the door open a little wider for Russian and Iranian influence? I realize that 2,000 US personnel can't make an earthshaking difference on the outcome, but at least it is a position. As for, "Israel is there as OUR tool", do we need (given the Middle-East hatreds and emotions) for Israel to stir up the pot and make it boil? Israel's Air Force is its' prime projection of power and (as we learned from WW2, Vietnam, etc.) it takes land forces to occupy and control a land mass; Israel's army is great for its self-defense, but is not large enough for wider-scale projection.

I don't know how 2,000 US troops (advisors and trainers) will make a difference in Syria, but they do occupy a vital area in Northern Syria and act as a buffer between the Turks and the Kurd's. Without this buffer, I think the Turks would invade Syria and massacre the Kurd's who are allied with us in Syria.

Your opinion?



I think Trump said we are not too g to provide security free to the entire world anymore

DJS. Would you be ok sending your wife son or daughter to die in Syria?
"DJS. Would you be ok sending your wife son or daughter to die in Syria?"

Those in the military joined to serve and protect the US and being in hot spots may contribute to this (by keeping adversaries off balance. If the US needs a 75 year old woman (or my 51 year old daughter) to serve and, they are willing to do it, I'm OK with that.
Hahaha! I love how the left has become such war mongers.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Hahaha! I love how the left has become such war mongers.



They always have been.

Woodrow Wilson: Democrat, WW1

FDR: Democrat, WW2

Truman: Democrat, Korea

Kennedy/LBJ: Democrat, Vietnam
Originally Posted by djs
"DJS. Would you be ok sending your wife son or daughter to die in Syria?"

Those in the military joined to serve and protect the US and being in hot spots may contribute to this (by keeping adversaries off balance. If the US needs a 75 year old woman (or my 51 year old daughter) to serve and, they are willing to do it, I'm OK with that.


I thought not

It’s always the cowards and defense contractors who love protracted wars

Love sending other people’s children to die in your wars
Pathetic
Originally Posted by ihookem
As for a prophesy about Damascus. You see, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins. Isaiah 17 V 1. Good move MR.PRESIDENT !!! Unlike President Obama , MR. PRESIDENT TRUMP knows this . Smart move, get the hell out of there. Also, there are many on the Campfire that dont believe the bible is for real and don't believe the prophesies in scripture can google up Damascus pictures. You will see that the prophesy is well on it's way.




My belief in that is it will be like another 6 day war scenario except with Iran involved and maybe others. I believe these things will happen to Damascus, Moab and Persia but it will not be directly by the hand of God.

It is my belief that when Israel thinks it's about to fall it will expend its entire conventional, nuclear, chemical and biological arsenals resulting in exactly what we see in the Bible.
Unbelievable how fast the left changes their tune when the President does something they’ve been screaming for since the beginning. I’m sure that the infrastructure is in place that allows us to keep our eyes and ears in the places we pull out from. A couple thousand troops with one arm tied behind their back with ROE that don’t allow them to do anything meaningful without fear of being prosecuted is not a place I want to send our brave warriors.
Originally Posted by djs
One less war, one less Secretary of Defense, one less adult in the room. Mattis was willing to stand up to Trump and his tantrums and give him world-view advise on how to treat allies and ugly situations.

At least after 20 Jan of 17, it was one less moslem traitor in the Whitehouse.... Mattis needed to go, if you can't support the President, you resign. That simple..
There are plenty of folks here that have vast geo/political and military experience, they should read Sec.
Def. Mattis's resignation letter then opine why he is wrong. Having the strongest military the world has ever known is is a power constantly misused by malinformed politicians.

Destroying the leadership of countries that present a threat is a mission worthy of our military, nation building is not but is effective in draining our resources. Punitive expeditions work best when the surviving leadership knows that they are as vulnerable as their predecessors should their actions cause our inevitable return.

Had Pres. Bush listened to his military both Afghanistan and Iraq would have been conducted as punitive expeditions and the troops withdrawn to a level that served the US not the conquered. Afghanistan is ungovernable but understands power. Iraq should have been left to the surviving Baathist generals and bureaucrats who would understand that if they acted in a manner contrary to US interests we would return.

Fair fights and restrictive R.O.E.s are political fantasies not part of the warrior lexicon.

For those who think it is relevant I am the son and grandson of combat vets and served 27 months in combat in RVN.


mike r
Its pretty simple really; either we engage in total war, vanquish our enemies take their lands and their resources (hint: The British Empire got it right), or we go home. We haven't fought a "total war since 1945...
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Trump is bringing home the troops from Syria. The swamp is having a fit about it.


Good. This is one thing I agreed with the man about. Though he's handling it with typical incompetence.
Originally Posted by ribka

It’s always the cowards and defense contractors who love protracted wars

Love sending other people’s children to die in your wars
Pathetic

Damn right. If we are not there to win, and win big, then get out.
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