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https://ryandetert.com/tweet-cave-repeat-equals-2020-defeat/

Interesting read that will undoubtedly be unpopular.

excerpt,..but the whole piece is worth reading.

As someone who joined Trump's campaign and worked around the clock to get him elected, I'm furious. Even though I knew Trump's history I still remained cautiously optimistic. My hope was that at 70 years old he had grown bored of the money, reality TV, and porn stars, and the only thing left for him to achieve would have been immortality; canonized in every history book for posterity. We rolled the dice but came up snake eyes.
as short sighted a piece as Ive ever read.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
as short sighted a piece as Ive ever read.


okay,...what part of it seems shortsided? It pretty much jibes with what I'm hearing. The part which tells about how slight the vote margin was in the rust belt states and Michigan are not just opinion.

Neither is the numbers that showed up during the mid terms.
Which democrat do prefer to be our next President?
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Which democrat do prefer to be our next President?


I'm not the topic.

But to answer your question, if Trump is the GOP nominee, I'll vote for Trump.
Why are you working so hard to ensure he isn’t the nominee?
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Why are you working so hard to ensure he isn’t the nominee?


Surely you don't think a discussion on a forum will influence the election.
bristoe made me change my vote to biden/orourke. just sayin'.
Oh, ok. You are just on a mission pointing out perceived failures of the Trump administration for educational purposes. laugh
Here's to hoping Jeb is on the ticket
Klobuchar for the win!!!
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Which democrat do prefer to be our next President?


Amy Klobuchar. Honest, earnest, ethical, smart, thoughtful, works well with others, gets things done. Everything Trump isn't.
Originally Posted by GreatWaputi
Here's to hoping Jeb is on the ticket


Now there’s a man who will MAGA!
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Which democrat do prefer to be our next President?


Amy Klobuchar. Honest, earnest, ethical, smart, thoughtful, works well with others, gets things done. Everything Trump isn't.


Now there’s a woman who will MASHA!
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Oh, ok. You are just on a mission pointing out perceived failures of the Trump administration for educational purposes. laugh


I'm not much of a cheerleader for government. Although I'll admit, I was fairly enthusiastic for Trump's candidacy. Many people think he's got quite a bit to get done between now and the election if he's going to energize the base enough to win again.

Some people discuss current events.

Some people don't want to hear anything but cheerleading.

I'm disappointed in Trump mainly because he's not doing the things he needs to do to get a second term. I'm also disappointed in him because it seems as if even he does get a second term, he's not going to do the things which got him his first term.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Klobuchar for the win!!!


Hey ghost, I hadn't seen your post before my post above. So, I can add one more qualification to my list. Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state. Trump is reviled in New York, by the people who know him best. That speaks volumes both ways.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
as short sighted a piece as Ive ever read.


I talked to a former republican member of the Iowa House last week. He blamed the loss of several republican positions on Donald Trump's tweets. His logic seemed sound and I have a lot of faith in they guy being right.

kwg
Mostly, I'm just perplexed as to why he's not doing what he said he was going to do.

Why not?
trumps phugged



Bristoe has overcome the Sisyphean task of googling a concern troll's factless, negative opinion piece on President Trump.

He must be buildin up for the next challenge: googlin porn.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
as short sighted a piece as Ive ever read.


Perhaps you didn't scribe down and see the whole article ?
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Bristoe has overcome the Sisyphean task of googling a concern troll's factless, negative opinion piece on President Trump.

He must be buildin up for the next challenge: googlin porn.


Seems to me you float between meaningful conversation and talking nonsense.
President Trump has at least 289 accomplishments.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ust-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Klobuchar for the win!!!


Hey ghost, I hadn't seen your post before my post above. So, I can add one more qualification to my list. Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state. Trump is reviled in New York, by the people who know him best. That speaks volumes both ways.


I was kidding, Paddler.

Never underestimate the number of retards in Minnesota.
Originally Posted by Ryan Deter
This is what's most frustrating. Trump has not made a good faith effort to follow through on his biggest campaign promises. Not once has Trump used the most powerful weapon in his arsenal: the presidential veto.


Well,he's wrong about this.
democrats are busy eliminating competition

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie...nvestigation-for-bank-fraud-hire-lawyers
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Bristoe has overcome the Sisyphean task of googling a concern troll's factless, negative opinion piece on President Trump.

He must be buildin up for the next challenge: googlin porn.


Seems to me you float between meaningful conversation and talking nonsense.


You linked a nonsense article.

Seemed appropriate.

Always a giveaway, when some internet writer starts off the bullshit with: "I voted for/worked for/blew Trump", then complains because their dick didn't get any longer.

Might as well start with "Once upon a time".

Then, it's a laundry list of what they *didn't* get. Waah.

And, there's only *one* person, on the entire planet, whose fault it is. Waah.

Wouldn't waste my time readin any other bullshit by this moron, but it's a certainty that last week he/she/it was complainin bout "Presidential overreach" with the emergency declaration.

@ssholes complainin that President Trump doesn't get anything done, all by himself.

Then when Trump does somethin, cause nobody else will, like the emergency order, they bitch that he's seizin too much power.

And, as always, these losers never list what they would have done differently, cause they're so much smarter, or how ta solve even one of the list of bitches.

This recycled bullshit's been writ a thousand times already.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Bristoe has overcome the Sisyphean task of googling a concern troll's factless, negative opinion piece on President Trump.

He must be buildin up for the next challenge: googlin porn.


Seems to me you float between meaningful conversation and talking nonsense.


You linked a nonsense article.

Seemed appropriate.

Always a giveaway, when some internet writer starts off the bullshit with: "I voted for/worked for/blew Trump", then complains because their dick didn't get any longer.

Might as well start with "Once upon a time".

Then, it's a laundry list of what they *didn't* get. Waah.

And, there's only *one* person, on the entire planet, whose fault it is. Waah.

Wouldn't waste my time readin any other bullshit by this moron, but it's a certainty that last week he/she/it was complainin bout "Presidential overreach" with the emergency declaration.

@ssholes complainin that President Trump doesn't get anything done, all by himself.

Then when Trump does somethin, cause nobody else will, like the emergency order, they bitch that he's seizin too much power.

And, as always, these losers never list what they would have done differently, cause they're so much smarter, or how ta solve even one of the list of bitches.

This recycled bullshit's been writ a thousand times already.


I think Trump stating that he wants to increase legal immigration to an all time high may be what makes the difference in the 2020 election. That definitely came out of left field and is not playing well with a lot of voters on the right.

I can't imagine what made him say something like that. The first time I heard it, I thought his mouth just got ahead of his brain for a moment. But he's been saying it on a regular basis.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Mostly, I'm just perplexed as to why he's not doing what he said he was going to do.

Why not?


Why are you perplexed? Did you really believe him when he said what he'd do? If so, why? He's nothing but a bullsh*tter. Always has been, always will be. Every time somebody trusted Trump they got screwed. Why would anybody expect things to be different now? You are familiar with the definition of insanity, right? You are aware that he's been sued something like 3500 times, right? You know that he's lied over 8700 times since taking office, right? You guys are very, very slow learners.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Which democrat do prefer to be our next President?


Amy Klobuchar. Honest, earnest, ethical, smart, thoughtful, works well with others, gets things done. Everything Trump isn't.

As a Minnesotan that has known her and her family, nothing you wrote is true. She isnt any of the things. She is almost as evil as Hillery. She treats people like dirt and thinks her chit doesn't stink.
She ate egg salad with a dirty comb and made her aid go and wash it!
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I think Trump stating that he wants to increase legal immigration to an all time high may be what makes the difference in the 2020 election. That definitely came out of left field and is not playing well with a lot of voters on the right.

I can't imagine what made him say something like that. The first time I heard it, I thought his mouth just got ahead of his brain for a moment. But he's been saying it on a regular basis.

He's either an idiot or has been co-opted somehow. Alternatively, he was a fake from the start.
Nobody cares about the Co
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Mostly, I'm just perplexed as to why he's not doing what he said he was going to do.

Why not?


Why are you perplexed? Did you really believe him when he said what he'd do? If so, why? He's nothing but a bullsh*tter. Always has been, always will be. Every time somebody trusted Trump they got screwed. Why would anybody expect things to be different now? You are familiar with the definition of insanity, right? You are aware that he's been sued something like 3500 times, right? You know that he's lied over 8700 times since taking office, right? You guys are very, very slow learners.


Nobody cares about the Communist perspective on the matter.
LEGAL immigration is ok with me but the illegal onslaught from the south is getting all the attention and is being pushed on the President by the MSM.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I think Trump stating that he wants to increase legal immigration to an all time high may be what makes the difference in the 2020 election. That definitely came out of left field and is not playing well with a lot of voters on the right.

I can't imagine what made him say something like that. The first time I heard it, I thought his mouth just got ahead of his brain for a moment. But he's been saying it on a regular basis.


Only guess is that he's sayin it to try and deflect from the "racism" criticism he's gettin for wantin ta stop illegal immigration.

Sometime he talks in tweets.

He also gets white nationalism confused with white supremacist from time to time, if the reporting is accurate, which I doubt.

Regardless, a person hasta decide if they're gonna let themselves get depressed cause their every fantasy hasn't come true yet.
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He's either an idiot or has been co-opted somehow. Alternatively, he was a fake from the start.




Just because he borrowed millions of dollars from Soros, and even spent Christmas with him; probably doesn't mean anything grin

Its just one big happy family after all



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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Klobuchar for the win!!!


Hey ghost, I hadn't seen your post before my post above. So, I can add one more qualification to my list. Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state. Trump is reviled in New York, by the people who know him best. That speaks volumes both ways.


I was kidding, Paddler.

Never underestimate the number of retards in Minnesota.


Too bad. When I predicted Clinton would be our President, I was wrong for a few reasons. One, and I think this was a major factor, I didn't know that Trump was conspiring with Russia. Two, Comey's reopening the BS investigation into Hillary's emails 11 days before the election. And three, I underestimated the number of poorly informed people in America. I probably shouldn't have, considering what I see on the fire.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I think Trump stating that he wants to increase legal immigration to an all time high may be what makes the difference in the 2020 election. That definitely came out of left field and is not playing well with a lot of voters on the right.

I can't imagine what made him say something like that. The first time I heard it, I thought his mouth just got ahead of his brain for a moment. But he's been saying it on a regular basis.

He's either an idiot or has been co-opted somehow. Alternatively, he was a fake from the start.


I truly believe that he meant what he said during his campaign. I had serious doubts about his ability to do all of it, but I don't think he was just setting everybody up.

It seems as if he's making a big effort to call attention to the economy.

It may be that the economy is what the powers that be are holding over his head. It's no big trick to crash the economy. Kicking interest rates up will virtually shut it down over night,...and the people who control the interest rates answer to nobody.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Klobuchar for the win!!!


Hey ghost, I hadn't seen your post before my post above. So, I can add one more qualification to my list. Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state. Trump is reviled in New York, by the people who know him best. That speaks volumes both ways.


I was kidding, Paddler.

Never underestimate the number of retards in Minnesota.


Too bad. When I predicted Clinton would be our President, I was wrong for a few reasons. One, and I think this was a major factor, I didn't know that Trump was conspiring with Russia. Two, Comey's reopening the BS investigation into Hillary's emails 11 days before the election. And three, I underestimated the number of poorly informed people in America. I probably shouldn't have, considering what I see on the fire.


Nobody believes that Trump was conspiring with Russia. Not even you.

Why do you need to lie to support your ideology? If it had any merit it count stand on the truth.
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I truly believe that he meant what he said during his campaign




and why not; especially with such a stellar voting record grin
Seems to me like we elected a businessman, and that's what he's doing, taking care of business. If we had elected a strict Constitutionalist, he'd be taking care of our rights and undoing the damage done them in previous administrations. If we'd elected Hillary, we'd be wearing hijabs and carrying prayer rugs to work with us.

We got what we elected.
#watch4bristoe
He lost me when he said
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“Take the guns first, go through due process second,”


I cant believe all the people here that haven't turned on him.
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If we'd elected Hillary, we'd be wearing hijabs and carrying prayer rugs to work with us.

We got what we elected.




You're a genius about the obvious. Well done.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I think Trump stating that he wants to increase legal immigration to an all time high may be what makes the difference in the 2020 election. That definitely came out of left field and is not playing well with a lot of voters on the right.

I can't imagine what made him say something like that. The first time I heard it, I thought his mouth just got ahead of his brain for a moment. But he's been saying it on a regular basis.

He's either an idiot or has been co-opted somehow. Alternatively, he was a fake from the start.



President Trump SOTU on Wednesday, said he wants to increase the number of people who legally migrate to the U.S. "because our unemployment numbers are so low."
Trump, speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, said there is an influx of companies "coming back into our country," and that people legally coming into the U.S. are needed to fill those positions.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I think Trump stating that he wants to increase legal immigration to an all time high may be what makes the difference in the 2020 election. That definitely came out of left field and is not playing well with a lot of voters on the right.

I can't imagine what made him say something like that. The first time I heard it, I thought his mouth just got ahead of his brain for a moment. But he's been saying it on a regular basis.


Only guess is that he's sayin it to try and deflect from the "racism" criticism he's gettin for wantin ta stop illegal immigration.

Sometime he talks in tweets.

He also gets white nationalism confused with white supremacist from time to time, if the reporting is accurate, which I doubt.

Regardless, a person hasta decide if they're gonna let themselves get depressed cause their every fantasy hasn't come true yet.


I don't allow myself to be depressed by politics. But I'll admit to being surprised that a candidate like Trump can be forced into submission by the deep state.

Every other GOP candidate for the 2016 nomination went into it expecting to be owned by the deep state. Trump gave me reason to believe that he wouldn't allow that to happen to him.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I think Trump stating that he wants to increase legal immigration to an all time high may be what makes the difference in the 2020 election. That definitely came out of left field and is not playing well with a lot of voters on the right.

I can't imagine what made him say something like that. The first time I heard it, I thought his mouth just got ahead of his brain for a moment. But he's been saying it on a regular basis.

He's either an idiot or has been co-opted somehow. Alternatively, he was a fake from the start.



President Trump SOTU on Wednesday, said he wants to increase the number of people who legally migrate to the U.S. "because our unemployment numbers are so low."
Trump, speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, said there is an influx of companies "coming back into our country," and that people legally coming into the U.S. are needed to fill those positions.


Yeah,...that's bullshit.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Klobuchar for the win!!!


Hey ghost, I hadn't seen your post before my post above. So, I can add one more qualification to my list. Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state. Trump is reviled in New York, by the people who know him best. That speaks volumes both ways.


I was kidding, Paddler.

Never underestimate the number of retards in Minnesota.


Too bad. When I predicted Clinton would be our President, I was wrong for a few reasons. One, and I think this was a major factor, I didn't know that Trump was conspiring with Russia. Two, Comey's reopening the BS investigation into Hillary's emails 11 days before the election. And three, I underestimated the number of poorly informed people in America. I probably shouldn't have, considering what I see on the fire.


Nobody believes that Trump was conspiring with Russia. Not even you.

Why do you need to lie to support your ideology? If it had any merit it count stand on the truth.


Wrong. Roger Stone was in contact with Wikileaks, Manafort gave internal polling data to the Russians, Donnie Jr took a meeting with the Russians seeking dirt on Hillary. None of those things happened without Trump's knowledge. There is no reasonable doubt in my mind that Trump conspired with Russia.
Originally Posted by Paddler




Wrong. Roger Stone was in contact with Wikileaks, Manafort gave internal polling data to the Russians, Donnie Jr took a meeting with the Russians seeking dirt on Hillary. None of those things happened without Trump's knowledge. There is no reasonable doubt in my mind that Trump conspired with Russia.


You don't believe any of those lies either.

You're fundamentally dishonest, but you're not an idiot.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't allow myself to be depressed by politics. But I'll admit to being surprised that a candidate like Trump can be forced into submission by the deep state.

Every other GOP candidate for the 2016 nomination went into it expecting to be owned by the deep state. Trump gave me reason to believe that he wouldn't allow that to happen to him.


I've always thought that every president, including O'Buckwheat, comes into the office ready ta bull the china shop, in whatever way they're inclined.

But they get a lecture from a person, or persons, who never get mentioned by anybody, that tells em: "Yeah, you can do (whatever), but if ya do, it's really gonna fck up x, y or z."

In Trump's case, let's take the declassification issue.

I really believe he wants to do that. Bad.

But someone inside the CIA, NSA, or somewhere, deep state is as good a term as any, has managed to get him to agree not to, because it's going to fck up something else.

Weird theory, but it's been consistent. Even O'Buckwheat didn;t do half the country destroyin he set out ta do, havin both houses of mindless congressional votes.
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President Trump SOTU on Wednesday, said he wants to increase the number of people who legally migrate to the U.S. "because our unemployment numbers are so low."




I hope they bring their families with em. We have lots of goodies for them. Paid for by the American taxpayer. MAGA, KAG, winning, chess





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this is priceless Bear and Bristoe sounding like each others sock puppet and paddler schilling for them both ? you cant make this sh it up!
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Which democrat do prefer to be our next President?


Amy Klobuchar. Honest, earnest, ethical, smart, thoughtful, works well with others, gets things done. Everything Trump isn't.


The crazies on the left will never allow her to get a sniff of the nomination. She's too sane.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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If we'd elected Hillary, we'd be wearing hijabs and carrying prayer rugs to work with us.

We got what we elected.




You're a genius about the obvious. Well done.


Hey don't make it about me buckwheat. I'm just sayin we elected a businessman, and that's what he's doing, taking care of business.

When it comes to our personal liberties, he views them thru the lens of what he thinks would be best for the country, not the individual.
A lame duck Trump will be interesting

I'm afraid there is going to be alot more people pissed off when he listens to Fox less News and starts listening to Jared and Ivanka more
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
this is priceless Bear and Bristoe sounding like each others sock puppet and paddler schilling for them both ? you cant make this sh it up!


watch4bear always wanted Trump to fail. He's happy with the results.

I wanted Trump to be successful. I'm not happy with the results.
But in any event, the discussion isn't about me or watch4bear.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
this is priceless Bear and Bristoe sounding like each others sock puppet and paddler schilling for them both ? you cant make this sh it up!




So let me guess. You must be for increased immigration, red flag laws, and are ok with a president who takes millions from the NRA, then pisses in their face?
Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Which democrat do prefer to be our next President?


Amy Klobuchar. Honest, earnest, ethical, smart, thoughtful, works well with others, gets things done. Everything Trump isn't.

As a Minnesotan that has known her and her family, nothing you wrote is true. She isnt any of the things. She is almost as evil as Hillery. She treats people like dirt and thinks her chit doesn't stink.
She ate egg salad with a dirty comb and made her aid go and wash it!


She ate egg salad with a comb and made her aide go and wash it? OMFG, that's worse than committing treason like Trump did!
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I'm just sayin we elected a businessman, and that's what he's doing, taking care of business.




Hows them Oregon gun rights coming? grin
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watch4bear always wanted Trump to fail.



Not true. I saw his past, and posted it way before the primary. You got smoked up and saw a trump vision. Same way you did with that ron paul douche.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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watch4bear always wanted Trump to fail.



Not true. I saw his past, and posted it way before the primary. You got smoked up and saw a trump vision. Same way you did with that ron paul douche.


You're happy with Trump's failure.
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Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state.


Paddler PUTZ. Only in the twin cities of Sodom and Gomorah a.k.a.mpls and St. Paul and a few other dens of iniquity.

National level MN democrat politicians, with one or two exceptions are run by the national DNC machine. The goal is to move politicians into state positions most able to influence future elections with little respect for voters in more rational parts of the state.

E.g Dayton, Elison, Waltz and soon Omar.

Franken's initial senate win is an example. He must have really pizzed off the DNC to get toasted like he did.

A K is in the race for a reason and it ain't to win.

Airport wireless ate my first post.
Originally Posted by websterparish47
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
as short sighted a piece as Ive ever read.


Perhaps you didn't scribe down and see the whole article ?


its "scroll down" not scribe down.


but your correct, when the paragraph prefaced with : In some ways Trump has been worse than Hillary. ... I knew whoever wrote it was driving an agenda and dimissed the article and author as bull s hit.

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I'm afraid there is going to be alot more people pissed off when he listens to Fox less News and starts listening to Jared and Ivanka more




They run things. Its said trump plays golf and is president 30% of the time. Don't blame him, he's not taking any cash for his trouble.



https://townhall.com/columnists/chr...ng-trumps-hire-american-promise-n2542999
Originally Posted by KFWA
A lame duck Trump will be interesting

I'm afraid there is going to be alot more people pissed off when he listens to Fox less News and starts listening to Jared and Ivanka more


Well,...maybe, but if FOX has called out Jared and Ivanka, I missed it.
Remember when trump was bragging he had one of 5 concealed carry licenses in new yak?

He was bragging like only a billionaire could grin

He was special and everyone else was a putz.
and how about them kiddos grin


https://www.rt.com/viral/339334-trump-kids-cant-vote/
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Which democrat do prefer to be our next President?


I'm not the topic.

But to answer your question, if Trump is the GOP nominee, I'll vote for Trump.



This is the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump.......the only thing the Trumpsters can ever come up with is this........if you don't like Trump, then you must be a Democrat.

I voted for Trump in 2016, and if he runs again in 2020, I'll vote for him again.........BUT.....the cold hard truth of the matter is that Trump pizzed away a very good chance to actually make America great again by constantly fighting with and belittling the people he needed on his side in the Republican Party, when they controlled both the House and the Senate. Yes....some of those people didn't like Trump to begin with, but he made matters worse by constantly tweeting and running down those he didn't like. Do you believe that all Democrats love each other......no, they don't, but they put their agenda first, agreeing to disagree, and making sure that they get their liberal chit passed into law.

I keep remembering how many of you told us how we needed a good businessman as our leader, instead of a politician. Well, we got one, and so far he hasn't show an ability to lead. But, with all things being said, he's still better than ANY Democrat. However, it's pretty sad that we have to look at it that way.
Originally Posted by JamesJr
......pizzed away a very good chance to actually make America great again by constantly fighting with and belittling the people he needed on his side in the Republican Party, when they controlled both the House and the Senate. Yes....some of those people didn't like Trump to begin with, but he made matters worse by constantly tweeting and running down those he didn't like.


If the GOP really wanted to MAGA, Trump calling them names wouldn't have stopped them.
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You're happy with Trump's failure.




Phugg off dick dog. You gave him head and were oblivious to the facts of his past. Smoke more pot dipchit.

BTW, I voted for him, just like I did Romney and Mccain.
Dick dog?

Lmao
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by JamesJr
......pizzed away a very good chance to actually make America great again by constantly fighting with and belittling the people he needed on his side in the Republican Party, when they controlled both the House and the Senate. Yes....some of those people didn't like Trump to begin with, but he made matters worse by constantly tweeting and running down those he didn't like.


If the GOP really wanted to MAGA, Trump calling them names wouldn't have stopped them.



Maybe so, but I don't think Trump made an effort early on to see that they did. He knew he wasn't well liked, and while I don't think that was necessarily a bad thing, he could have laid off his constant tweeting about the people that rubbed him the wrong way.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Klobuchar for the win!!!


Hey ghost, I hadn't seen your post before my post above. So, I can add one more qualification to my list. Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state. Trump is reviled in New York, by the people who know him best. That speaks volumes both ways.


I was kidding, Paddler.

Never underestimate the number of retards in Minnesota.


Too bad. When I predicted Clinton would be our President, I was wrong for a few reasons. One, and I think this was a major factor, I didn't know that Trump was conspiring with Russia. Two, Comey's reopening the BS investigation into Hillary's emails 11 days before the election. And three, I underestimated the number of poorly informed people in America. I probably shouldn't have, considering what I see on the fire.

Four, you're a dumbass
Five, you're a dumbass
Six, you're a dumbass
Seven, you're a dumbass
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Originally Posted by whackem_stackem
He lost me when he said
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“Take the guns first, go through due process second,”


I cant believe all the people here that haven't turned on him.


Gun rights are not as important to most here as fitting into the crowd.

Lots of phonies here when it comes to the 2 A.

Man Love is a sickening thing to watch.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Man Love is a sickening thing to watch.


Ain't it though.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Man Love is a sickening thing to watch.


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I've said it before,....this forum represents a fairly narrow demographic,..basically, age 55+ traditional conservatives.

That's only one group of the people who turned out to vote for Trump in 2016. I'm a part of that age demographic, but although I'm still on the right, I'm no longer a traditional conservative.

Those age 55+ Tradcons will vote for any nominee the RNC throws out there. They would have voted for Jeb! and been perfectly happy with him,..and they will vote for Trump in 2020.

But most of them are mistaken in their belief that everybody who voted for Trump is a traditional conservative. Many people on the right who voted for Trump would have stayed home if Jeb! had been the GOP nominee.

As far as many of those people are concerned, Trump has turned into Jeb!. Some will still turn out to vote for Trump. Some will sleep late,..and,...the margin of victory for Trump was so small in 2016, (against a candidate as weak as Hillary) that he can't afford for many of those non Tradcon people to stay home on election day. Yet he keeps crowing about increasing the number of legal immigrants.

He loses votes every time he says that. But he won't shut up about it.
Basically,...Trump is behaving as if all he needs is the age 55+ tradcon demographic to win in 2020.

He's going to need more than that.
You said Ron Paul was "the one", then you said trump was "the one". I've said your just a child in a mans body. Smoke pot grin
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by JamesJr
......pizzed away a very good chance to actually make America great again by constantly fighting with and belittling the people he needed on his side in the Republican Party, when they controlled both the House and the Senate. Yes....some of those people didn't like Trump to begin with, but he made matters worse by constantly tweeting and running down those he didn't like.


If the GOP really wanted to MAGA, Trump calling them names wouldn't have stopped them.



Maybe so, but I don't think Trump made an effort early on to see that they did. He knew he wasn't well liked, and while I don't think that was necessarily a bad thing, he could have laid off his constant tweeting about the people that rubbed him the wrong way.


To me, Trump's tweeting is a completely superficial aspect of his behavior/performance. I know there's a ton of folks here whose eyes roll up in their head and start speaking in tongues every time he tweets. It's just a non-issue to me. I just can't believe the back-stabbing philistine sociopaths pretending to be Republicans in Congress GAS about it either. They had two years to smother illegal immigration and did nothing. I just can't believe they were right on the verge of doing that and then said, "Well, gosh, if you're going to be mean to me I'll just let 60 million mexicans come here and collect welfare to show you".

I just can't imagine the cause and effect. I guess another way to say what I'm getting at is, if they really wanted to do it, they didn't even need Trump to get the ball rolling. They could have ignored him and handed him a bill to sign.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
You said Ron Paul was "the one", then you said trump was "the one". I've said your just a child in a mans body. Smoke pot grin


Well,...Ron Paul didn't get the nomination. McCain and Romney did.

Eight years of Obama was the result.

We'll never know if Ron Paul could have defeated Obama because of people like you.
Something else,...a *lot* of the young people who supported Ron Paul turned out to vote for Trump in 2016.

Originally Posted by JamesJr
This is the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump.......the only thing the Trumpsters can ever come up with is this........if you don't like Trump, then you must be a Democrat.


JJ, the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump is that all the detractors cant come up with the name of someone that would do a better job in his place.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook

Originally Posted by JamesJr
This is the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump.......the only thing the Trumpsters can ever come up with is this........if you don't like Trump, then you must be a Democrat.


JJ, the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump is that all the detractors cant come up with the name of someone that would do a better job in his place.


Well,...that's one way to say it. Another way to say it is, "It's a damn shame that all the detractors cant come up with the name of someone that would do a better job in his place".
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook

Originally Posted by JamesJr
This is the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump.......the only thing the Trumpsters can ever come up with is this........if you don't like Trump, then you must be a Democrat.


JJ, the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump is that all the detractors cant come up with the name of someone that would do a better job in his place.


Horseschitt! There were sixteen candidates at the outset and any of them, with the xception of Kasich, would have been better than Trump. And I said so at the time.

To succeed as POTUS, a man has to be honorable or an extremely skilled politician. Trump is neither.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook

Originally Posted by JamesJr
This is the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump.......the only thing the Trumpsters can ever come up with is this........if you don't like Trump, then you must be a Democrat.


JJ, the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump is that all the detractors cant come up with the name of someone that would do a better job in his place.


Well,...that's one way to say it. Another way to say it is, "It's a damn shame that all the detractors cant come up with the name of someone that would do a better job in his place".


please stop pretending that every election since kennedy/Nixon wasnt about who we didnt want in office as opposed to who we did
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook

Originally Posted by JamesJr
This is the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump.......the only thing the Trumpsters can ever come up with is this........if you don't like Trump, then you must be a Democrat.


JJ, the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump is that all the detractors cant come up with the name of someone that would do a better job in his place.


Horseschitt! There were sixteen candidates at the outset and any of them, with the xception of Kasich, would have been better than Trump. And I said so at the time.

To succeed as POTUS, a man has to be honorable or an extremely skilled politician. Trump is neither.


I disagree with that.

With the exception of Rand Paul, everybody who ran for the GOP nomination in 2016 was applying for a job representing the deep state.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook

Originally Posted by JamesJr
This is the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump.......the only thing the Trumpsters can ever come up with is this........if you don't like Trump, then you must be a Democrat.


JJ, the number one problem with this whole thing concerning Trump is that all the detractors cant come up with the name of someone that would do a better job in his place.


Horseschitt! There were sixteen candidates at the outset and any of them, with the xception of Kasich, would have been better than Trump. And I said so at the time.

To succeed as POTUS, a man has to be honorable or an extremely skilled politician. Trump is neither.


yeah, thats why he slapped the dogs hit out of every one of them at every debate and almost every primary and got the nomination. I though JEB! was going to start crying on stage.... and every other one of them would have lost against hillary.
please stop pretending the country isnt in the shape its in because of all the sh it republican representation we've had up to this point.
No, but they all had experience in how to deal with the version of the Deep State in their own Statehouses.

You Idealist ignore two things :

1. The office of POTUS is a political office.

2. It’s no place for OTJT, even for a good an honorable man...and it’s sure not for an egomaniac like Trump.
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook


please stop pretending that every election since kennedy/Nixon wasnt about who we didnt want in office as opposed to who we did


Well, okay.

But if that's what you believe why are you hopping up and down about criticism of Trump?

You just said that all he had to offer was being the lesser of two evils.
Up until recently, lying, bragging, and slander would not win debates or the nomination. It’s a sad remark on how far we as a people have fallen when a blowhard like Trump can convince people he is worthy of consideration.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Up until recently, lying, bragging, and slander would not win debates or the nomination. It’s a sad remark on how far we as a people have fallen when a blowhard like Trump can convince people he is worthy of consideration.


Clinton, Bush43, and Obama set the bar pretty low long before Trump arrived on the scene.
CD I don't think you have much ground to stand on about 'lying, bragging and slander'. Trump has done a good job so far against all odds.
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Trump has done a good job so far against all odds.




What odds? He said we'd get tired of winning.

He had the house, and the senate remember? Who's going to support a loon who says take the guns first?
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Up until recently, lying, bragging, and slander would not win debates or the nomination. It’s a sad remark on how far we as a people have fallen when a blowhard like Trump can convince people he is worthy of consideration.


Clinton, Bush43, and Obama set the bar pretty low long before Trump arrived on the scene.


WHO did GWB lie about or slander?

For that matter, Clinton and Obama weren’t much for attacking individuals as I recall.
Originally Posted by Bristoe

I disagree with that.

With the exception of Rand Paul, everybody who ran for the GOP nomination in 2016 was applying for a job representing the deep state.

Exactly.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Up until recently, lying, bragging, and slander would not win debates or the nomination. It’s a sad remark on how far we as a people have fallen when a blowhard like Trump can convince people he is worthy of consideration.


Clinton, Bush43, and Obama set the bar pretty low long before Trump arrived on the scene.


WHO did GWB lie about or slander?




He lied about the justification for war in Iraq. That was a pretty big lie,....caused a lot of death and contributed a lot to the national debt going from $5 trillion to $10 trillion during his administration.

In fact, it was Bush (and his neocon handlers) that stirred up the mess in the Middle East that America is still involved in.

One of my biggest complaints with Trump is that he's taken on John Bolton and Eliot Abrams,...who were instrumental in getting America into Bush43's mess.
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With the exception of Rand Paul, everybody who ran for the GOP nomination in 2016 was applying for a job representing the deep state.




Just because trump spent Christmas with soros and had Hillary at his wedding, doesn't mean he's deep state. Jeesh


Smoke pot
Saddam wanted everyone to think he had a nuke program. All the intelligence pointed to him having WMDs .

My complaint about that was the way the war was conducted. We should have gone in from the south and out thru Turkey. No nation building bullschidt. That was Colin Powell’s doing.

But my point is that the insulting of individuals never took place until Trump.

He should have gone to a Public School and somebody would have shut his smart mouth for him. He just never learned how to act like a man.
Originally Posted by curdog4570
Saddam wanted everyone to think he had a nuke program. All the intelligence pointed to him having WMDs .

My complaint about that was the way the war was conducted. We should have gone in from the south and out thru Turkey. No nation building bullschidt. That was Colin Powell’s doing.

But my point is that the insulting of individuals never took place until Trump.

He should have gone to a Public School and somebody would have shut his smart mouth for him. He just never learned how to act like a man.


All of the "intelligence" came from the Office of Special Plans,..which was put together specifically to create a false link between the 9/11 attack and Iraq. But there's no reason to try to convince anyone of the lies which lead up to the war in Iraq if they haven't figured it out by now.

As for someone getting their feelings hurt because Trump mean mouthed them,...I really couldn't care less.

In my opinion he hasn't insulted nearly as many people as need to be insulted. There's very few people involved in America's national politics who haven't earned being insulted on a daily basis.
Originally Posted by KFWA
A lame duck Trump will be interesting

I'm afraid there is going to be alot more people pissed off when he listens to Fox less News and starts listening to Jared and Ivanka more


He's always been a lame ass president. His failure was preordained because of his lack of intelligence, honesty, integrity, as well as his greed, pettiness and justified insecurity.
I don't much like the fact that Trump is attempting to insult the intelligence of his base, however.

I cringe when he points to a few repairs being made in the existing border fence sections and says that it's evidence of the wall being built.
Originally Posted by Paddler


He's always been a lame ass president. His failure was preordained because of his lack of intelligence, honesty, integrity, as well as his greed, pettiness and justified insecurity.


Communists aren't welcome in this discussion. Go away.
I'll only say one thing " if trump looses the coming election. it shows that AMERICA is lost." Migrant who know nothing about the value and principle that holds us together have come here and scattered everything.
Originally Posted by oremi
I'll only say one thing " if trump looses the coming election. it shows that AMERICA is lost." Migrant who know nothing about the value and principle that holds us together have come here and scattered everything.


I thought the same when Clinton won a 2nd term and I was not wrong.....
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Klobuchar for the win!!!


Hey ghost, I hadn't seen your post before my post above. So, I can add one more qualification to my list. Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state. Trump is reviled in New York, by the people who know him best. That speaks volumes both ways.


I was kidding, Paddler.

Never underestimate the number of retards in Minnesota.

That's for sure. Only imbeciles could have voted for a creep like Al Franken.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by Paddler


He's always been a lame ass president. His failure was preordained because of his lack of intelligence, honesty, integrity, as well as his greed, pettiness and justified insecurity.


Intelligence isn't welcome in this discussion. Go away.


Make me.
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Klobuchar for the win!!!


Hey ghost, I hadn't seen your post before my post above. So, I can add one more qualification to my list. Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state. Trump is reviled in New York, by the people who know him best. That speaks volumes both ways.


I was kidding, Paddler.

Never underestimate the number of retards in Minnesota.

That's for sure. Only imbeciles could have voted for a creep like Al Franken.


Franken should not have resigned. Gillibrand's part in that disqualifies her as a Presidential candidate, IMO. If I were Al, I'd have told them to stick it, I'll resign right after the pussy grabber in the White House.
It's night time. This thread has expired.

Shut up.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
It's night time. This thread has expired.

Shut up.





grin OK, that was funny
Could not disagree more, he has kept a lot of his promises and has put great effort into the others. What can oyu expect from him when he could not even get Congress to act on anchor babies and asylum policies? He hasn't sold us out, the GOP sold us out.
Npbody in their right mind can blame him for the slow progress on the wall.
Yes, he’s sold us out. This country is under a relentless invasion, and has been for decades, and he has the authority to put our armed military on the border with orders to shoot to kill, but he doesn’t have the balls.

His first responsibility is to DEFEND this nation from our enemy. Illegal invaders who are allowed to steal money from every citizen through the tax system for their housing, healthcare and schooling is our enemy, and not stopping this, when he has the full authority to do so, is treason.

Allowing this invasion to continue, with the ultimate result being the collapse of the economy through the Cloward-Piven Strategy to overwhelm the social welfare system to bankrupt the country is TREASON.

You people mark my words here, he is ramping up with this crap talk, again, about “take the guns first” and “raise the number of immigrants”, and whatever else will come, to throw the election to the Communists, just like he attempted in the first place for the Clintons, but it didn’t work, because it backfired on him. The trash talk Donald spewed on the campaign trail was what every American has been thinking and talking in person and on the internet, and it lit a fire, because citizens thought someone with balls had finally arrived to save America, and would finally actually represent the every day citizen, instead of the elite.

Balanced budget by 2034…..what a joke. That’s your “businessman”. The country is on course presently to financially collapse in 4-6 years under the 20% cost of our budget of medicare.

The country is set to go bankrupt from Medicare costs during the next presidential cycle, whoever is in there, and Trump has been told this, and in a recent article, he acknowledged this when confronted, and said, “I’ll be gone”. The math does not lie. 20% of our budget is Medicare when in the past for decades it was only 4% of budget, which was affordable.

The Sherman Anti-trust Act is black letter law on the books, and has been for over 100 years to deal with the Collusion, Corruption, Monopoly, Price fixing that is going on in the Insurance, Hospital systems, and doctors unchecked.

There is no law that needs to be passed to solve the problem that will destroy the country. The law has been there for over 100 years, and all the Congress TRAITORS know it, but won’t do anything, because they will lose their job to fix it, because it will cause a recession for a short period to allow things to work through the system.

Trump said he’d fix it, AND HE LIED.

Not one single attempt, while they held both houses, to solve the most dire and crucial issue that will save the nation from total financial collapse.

The whole of congress and the executive are all traitors, along with the military for allowing this to continue when they all know the end result.

THEY REMOVED THE HEALTHCARE TOPIC FROM HIS CAMPAIGN WEBSITE THE NIGHT HE WON.

There is your honesty.

There is your businessman.

There is your newest narcissist.

And soon, there goes the country off the cliff into a new dark age that will last for decades when it collapses the whole world economy, and a tyrant will suspend the Constitution to take total control…just like it has happened throughout history.

People will spend time in hundreds of forums on the internet debating if we do @#%$#, but the deep state will continue to go about their business destroying the nation, while the people’s voices fall on the deaf ears of those who swore to uphold the Constitution.

Guns, Guts, and Gardening is the only thing that will save you when it all collapses.

Remember, math does not lie, and the 20% comes straight from the government’s numbers.

Lastly...here's another wake-up call for you...Every so-called nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show host,and major blogger, doesn't touch the topic......What does that tell you?.......THEY ARE ALL FAKES LOADING THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS WHILE THE GETTIN' IS GOOD.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Originally Posted by Bristoe
It's night time. This thread has expired.

Shut up.





grin OK, that was funny







Yep, about as funny as him trying to make me shut up. He can't handle the truth.
While all this Trump did/didn't and his tweets flies back and forth, get ready for President Biden and VP Klobuchar, the re-born Hubert Humphrey, and hold on to our collective asses.

Biden is the most palatable Dem "not running", and Klobuchar will be there to run things, while pedo-Biden diddles around and gets covered up.
Originally Posted by luv2safari
While all this Trump did/didn't and his tweets flies back and forth, get ready for President Biden and VP Klobuchar, the re-born Hubert Humphrey, and hold on to our collective asses.

Biden is the most palatable Dem "not running", and Klobuchar will be there to run things, while pedo-Biden diddles around and gets covered up.

Anybody worth a damn could plow Biden under by tying him to all of Barry's treasonous acts. There is no way he can wipe enough of that dirt off to be able to wear a clean suit.
No sense in getting all worked up over it.
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Originally Posted by luv2safari
While all this Trump did/didn't and his tweets flies back and forth, get ready for President Biden and VP Klobuchar, the re-born Hubert Humphrey, and hold on to our collective asses.

Biden is the most palatable Dem "not running", and Klobuchar will be there to run things, while pedo-Biden diddles around and gets covered up.

Anybody worth a damn could plow Biden under by tying him to all of Barry's treasonous acts. There is no way he can wipe enough of that dirt off to be able to wear a clean suit.



Honor means very little anymore.

Promises that voters want to hear is what wins elections. Also, old Joe isn't frightening like the radicals and Trump. Joe has the rust belt tied up...the states Trump squeaked through. You give the new voter too much credit, you know...intelligence.
Originally Posted by luv2safari


Honor means very little anymore.


You can say that again. Just look at McConnell, Trump, Pence, Sarah Sanders, the entire cabinet. Not an honorable human being among them.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by luv2safari


Honor means very little anymore.


You can say that again. Just look at McConnell, Trump, Pence, Sarah Sanders, the entire cabinet. Not an honorable human being among them.

You left out Paddler.

If you don't identify Barry and the Clintons, you're just as much guilty of having ZERO honor or integrity.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Klobuchar for the win!!!


Hey ghost, I hadn't seen your post before my post above. So, I can add one more qualification to my list. Amy is well respected and loved by the people in her home state. Trump is reviled in New York, by the people who know him best. That speaks volumes both ways.


I was kidding, Paddler.

Never underestimate the number of retards in Minnesota.

That's for sure. Only imbeciles could have voted for a creep like Al Franken.


Franken should not have resigned. Gillibrand's part in that disqualifies her as a Presidential candidate, IMO. If I were Al, I'd have told them to stick it, I'll resign right after the pussy grabber in the White House.

Should we have a digk grabber in the White House, ya Fugk, now go play captain azz grab .
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Yes, he’s sold us out. This country is under a relentless invasion, and has been for decades, and he has the authority to put our armed military on the border with orders to shoot to kill, but he doesn’t have the balls.

His first responsibility is to DEFEND this nation from our enemy. Illegal invaders who are allowed to steal money from every citizen through the tax system for their housing, healthcare and schooling is our enemy, and not stopping this, when he has the full authority to do so, is treason.

Allowing this invasion to continue, with the ultimate result being the collapse of the economy through the Cloward-Piven Strategy to overwhelm the social welfare system to bankrupt the country is TREASON.

You people mark my words here, he is ramping up with this crap talk, again, about “take the guns first” and “raise the number of immigrants”, and whatever else will come, to throw the election to the Communists, just like he attempted in the first place for the Clintons, but it didn’t work, because it backfired on him. The trash talk Donald spewed on the campaign trail was what every American has been thinking and talking in person and on the internet, and it lit a fire, because citizens thought someone with balls had finally arrived to save America, and would finally actually represent the every day citizen, instead of the elite.

Balanced budget by 2034…..what a joke. That’s your “businessman”. The country is on course presently to financially collapse in 4-6 years under the 20% cost of our budget of medicare.

The country is set to go bankrupt from Medicare costs during the next presidential cycle, whoever is in there, and Trump has been told this, and in a recent article, he acknowledged this when confronted, and said, “I’ll be gone”. The math does not lie. 20% of our budget is Medicare when in the past for decades it was only 4% of budget, which was affordable.

The Sherman Anti-trust Act is black letter law on the books, and has been for over 100 years to deal with the Collusion, Corruption, Monopoly, Price fixing that is going on in the Insurance, Hospital systems, and doctors unchecked.

There is no law that needs to be passed to solve the problem that will destroy the country. The law has been there for over 100 years, and all the Congress TRAITORS know it, but won’t do anything, because they will lose their job to fix it, because it will cause a recession for a short period to allow things to work through the system.

Trump said he’d fix it, AND HE LIED.

Not one single attempt, while they held both houses, to solve the most dire and crucial issue that will save the nation from total financial collapse.

The whole of congress and the executive are all traitors, along with the military for allowing this to continue when they all know the end result.

THEY REMOVED THE HEALTHCARE TOPIC FROM HIS CAMPAIGN WEBSITE THE NIGHT HE WON.

There is your honesty.

There is your businessman.

There is your newest narcissist.

And soon, there goes the country off the cliff into a new dark age that will last for decades when it collapses the whole world economy, and a tyrant will suspend the Constitution to take total control…just like it has happened throughout history.

People will spend time in hundreds of forums on the internet debating if we do @#%$#, but the deep state will continue to go about their business destroying the nation, while the people’s voices fall on the deaf ears of those who swore to uphold the Constitution.

Guns, Guts, and Gardening is the only thing that will save you when it all collapses.

Remember, math does not lie, and the 20% comes straight from the government’s numbers.

Lastly...here's another wake-up call for you...Every so-called nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show host,and major blogger, doesn't touch the topic......What does that tell you?.......THEY ARE ALL FAKES LOADING THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS WHILE THE GETTIN' IS GOOD.



Put your tin foil hat back on and Pour a glass of STFU
If the President can't fix the illegal invasion, he could do something about them voting. Fix the voting system so it is fair and doesn't allow illegals to vote. Then work on the invasion and afterwards work on deporting those already here.

Trump is insane if he thinks he can sign off on any gun control and win the next election. Despite the idiots here outting themselves as being for Red Flag Laws and Universal Background Checks, either one will sink his chances in the next election and probably secure a Win for the Dems.

Trump is pretty much doing great on the economy. IMO he can survive the lack of a wall but he has to do something instead and he can't support/sign any gun control.

With 15 Democrats already formally announcing their intentions to run for the office of POTUS in 2020, and Lord only knows how many more will do likewise between now and then, it should get quite entertaining watching the proverbial 'train-wreck' of name calling, mudslinging, backstabbing, dirty laundry, lies and old skeletons exposed, between the Democrat candidates and their supporters.
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Yes, he’s sold us out. This country is under a relentless invasion, and has been for decades, and he has the authority to put our armed military on the border with orders to shoot to kill, but he doesn’t have the balls.

His first responsibility is to DEFEND this nation from our enemy. Illegal invaders who are allowed to steal money from every citizen through the tax system for their housing, healthcare and schooling is our enemy, and not stopping this, when he has the full authority to do so, is treason.

Allowing this invasion to continue, with the ultimate result being the collapse of the economy through the Cloward-Piven Strategy to overwhelm the social welfare system to bankrupt the country is TREASON.

You people mark my words here, he is ramping up with this crap talk, again, about “take the guns first” and “raise the number of immigrants”, and whatever else will come, to throw the election to the Communists, just like he attempted in the first place for the Clintons, but it didn’t work, because it backfired on him. The trash talk Donald spewed on the campaign trail was what every American has been thinking and talking in person and on the internet, and it lit a fire, because citizens thought someone with balls had finally arrived to save America, and would finally actually represent the every day citizen, instead of the elite.

Balanced budget by 2034…..what a joke. That’s your “businessman”. The country is on course presently to financially collapse in 4-6 years under the 20% cost of our budget of medicare.

The country is set to go bankrupt from Medicare costs during the next presidential cycle, whoever is in there, and Trump has been told this, and in a recent article, he acknowledged this when confronted, and said, “I’ll be gone”. The math does not lie. 20% of our budget is Medicare when in the past for decades it was only 4% of budget, which was affordable.

The Sherman Anti-trust Act is black letter law on the books, and has been for over 100 years to deal with the Collusion, Corruption, Monopoly, Price fixing that is going on in the Insurance, Hospital systems, and doctors unchecked.

There is no law that needs to be passed to solve the problem that will destroy the country. The law has been there for over 100 years, and all the Congress TRAITORS know it, but won’t do anything, because they will lose their job to fix it, because it will cause a recession for a short period to allow things to work through the system.

Trump said he’d fix it, AND HE LIED.

Not one single attempt, while they held both houses, to solve the most dire and crucial issue that will save the nation from total financial collapse.

The whole of congress and the executive are all traitors, along with the military for allowing this to continue when they all know the end result.

THEY REMOVED THE HEALTHCARE TOPIC FROM HIS CAMPAIGN WEBSITE THE NIGHT HE WON.

There is your honesty.

There is your businessman.

There is your newest narcissist.

And soon, there goes the country off the cliff into a new dark age that will last for decades when it collapses the whole world economy, and a tyrant will suspend the Constitution to take total control…just like it has happened throughout history.

People will spend time in hundreds of forums on the internet debating if we do @#%$#, but the deep state will continue to go about their business destroying the nation, while the people’s voices fall on the deaf ears of those who swore to uphold the Constitution.

Guns, Guts, and Gardening is the only thing that will save you when it all collapses.

Remember, math does not lie, and the 20% comes straight from the government’s numbers.

Lastly...here's another wake-up call for you...Every so-called nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show host,and major blogger, doesn't touch the topic......What does that tell you?.......THEY ARE ALL FAKES LOADING THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS WHILE THE GETTIN' IS GOOD.


Great post.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Yes, he’s sold us out. This country is under a relentless invasion, and has been for decades, and he has the authority to put our armed military on the border with orders to shoot to kill, but he doesn’t have the balls.

His first responsibility is to DEFEND this nation from our enemy. Illegal invaders who are allowed to steal money from every citizen through the tax system for their housing, healthcare and schooling is our enemy, and not stopping this, when he has the full authority to do so, is treason.

Allowing this invasion to continue, with the ultimate result being the collapse of the economy through the Cloward-Piven Strategy to overwhelm the social welfare system to bankrupt the country is TREASON.

You people mark my words here, he is ramping up with this crap talk, again, about “take the guns first” and “raise the number of immigrants”, and whatever else will come, to throw the election to the Communists, just like he attempted in the first place for the Clintons, but it didn’t work, because it backfired on him. The trash talk Donald spewed on the campaign trail was what every American has been thinking and talking in person and on the internet, and it lit a fire, because citizens thought someone with balls had finally arrived to save America, and would finally actually represent the every day citizen, instead of the elite.

Balanced budget by 2034…..what a joke. That’s your “businessman”. The country is on course presently to financially collapse in 4-6 years under the 20% cost of our budget of medicare.

The country is set to go bankrupt from Medicare costs during the next presidential cycle, whoever is in there, and Trump has been told this, and in a recent article, he acknowledged this when confronted, and said, “I’ll be gone”. The math does not lie. 20% of our budget is Medicare when in the past for decades it was only 4% of budget, which was affordable.

The Sherman Anti-trust Act is black letter law on the books, and has been for over 100 years to deal with the Collusion, Corruption, Monopoly, Price fixing that is going on in the Insurance, Hospital systems, and doctors unchecked.

There is no law that needs to be passed to solve the problem that will destroy the country. The law has been there for over 100 years, and all the Congress TRAITORS know it, but won’t do anything, because they will lose their job to fix it, because it will cause a recession for a short period to allow things to work through the system.

Trump said he’d fix it, AND HE LIED.

Not one single attempt, while they held both houses, to solve the most dire and crucial issue that will save the nation from total financial collapse.

The whole of congress and the executive are all traitors, along with the military for allowing this to continue when they all know the end result.

THEY REMOVED THE HEALTHCARE TOPIC FROM HIS CAMPAIGN WEBSITE THE NIGHT HE WON.

There is your honesty.

There is your businessman.

There is your newest narcissist.

And soon, there goes the country off the cliff into a new dark age that will last for decades when it collapses the whole world economy, and a tyrant will suspend the Constitution to take total control…just like it has happened throughout history.

People will spend time in hundreds of forums on the internet debating if we do @#%$#, but the deep state will continue to go about their business destroying the nation, while the people’s voices fall on the deaf ears of those who swore to uphold the Constitution.

Guns, Guts, and Gardening is the only thing that will save you when it all collapses.

Remember, math does not lie, and the 20% comes straight from the government’s numbers.

Lastly...here's another wake-up call for you...Every so-called nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show host,and major blogger, doesn't touch the topic......What does that tell you?.......THEY ARE ALL FAKES LOADING THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS WHILE THE GETTIN' IS GOOD.


Great post.




+2
+3 😂
Its amazing how it happens that the President has no power at all. whatever he brings to the table and wants to do is been block by the house and he can do nothing. its been three years and still no wall its been 2 years and the Child birth citizenship thing is still ongoing. he need something more than a good economy to tout about.
He has the power to do most of what he promised based solely on the power inherent in the presidency. He chose not to do them.

Example: Birthright Citizenship is a time bomb, and yet it has no basis in American law, literally. No Federal legislation established it, and the notion that the Fourteenth Amendment calls for it was merely an expressed opinion, not a ruling by the Supreme Court. Said opinion is quite demonstrably in error. Therefore, all that's required to terminate this suicidal policy is an executive order, yet (even though he said that he would) he never has issued said order.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by ElkSlayer91
Yes, he’s sold us out. This country is under a relentless invasion, and has been for decades, and he has the authority to put our armed military on the border with orders to shoot to kill, but he doesn’t have the balls.

His first responsibility is to DEFEND this nation from our enemy. Illegal invaders who are allowed to steal money from every citizen through the tax system for their housing, healthcare and schooling is our enemy, and not stopping this, when he has the full authority to do so, is treason.

Allowing this invasion to continue, with the ultimate result being the collapse of the economy through the Cloward-Piven Strategy to overwhelm the social welfare system to bankrupt the country is TREASON.

You people mark my words here, he is ramping up with this crap talk, again, about “take the guns first” and “raise the number of immigrants”, and whatever else will come, to throw the election to the Communists, just like he attempted in the first place for the Clintons, but it didn’t work, because it backfired on him. The trash talk Donald spewed on the campaign trail was what every American has been thinking and talking in person and on the internet, and it lit a fire, because citizens thought someone with balls had finally arrived to save America, and would finally actually represent the every day citizen, instead of the elite.

Balanced budget by 2034…..what a joke. That’s your “businessman”. The country is on course presently to financially collapse in 4-6 years under the 20% cost of our budget of medicare.

The country is set to go bankrupt from Medicare costs during the next presidential cycle, whoever is in there, and Trump has been told this, and in a recent article, he acknowledged this when confronted, and said, “I’ll be gone”. The math does not lie. 20% of our budget is Medicare when in the past for decades it was only 4% of budget, which was affordable.

The Sherman Anti-trust Act is black letter law on the books, and has been for over 100 years to deal with the Collusion, Corruption, Monopoly, Price fixing that is going on in the Insurance, Hospital systems, and doctors unchecked.

There is no law that needs to be passed to solve the problem that will destroy the country. The law has been there for over 100 years, and all the Congress TRAITORS know it, but won’t do anything, because they will lose their job to fix it, because it will cause a recession for a short period to allow things to work through the system.

Trump said he’d fix it, AND HE LIED.

Not one single attempt, while they held both houses, to solve the most dire and crucial issue that will save the nation from total financial collapse.

The whole of congress and the executive are all traitors, along with the military for allowing this to continue when they all know the end result.

THEY REMOVED THE HEALTHCARE TOPIC FROM HIS CAMPAIGN WEBSITE THE NIGHT HE WON.

There is your honesty.

There is your businessman.

There is your newest narcissist.

And soon, there goes the country off the cliff into a new dark age that will last for decades when it collapses the whole world economy, and a tyrant will suspend the Constitution to take total control…just like it has happened throughout history.

People will spend time in hundreds of forums on the internet debating if we do @#%$#, but the deep state will continue to go about their business destroying the nation, while the people’s voices fall on the deaf ears of those who swore to uphold the Constitution.

Guns, Guts, and Gardening is the only thing that will save you when it all collapses.

Remember, math does not lie, and the 20% comes straight from the government’s numbers.

Lastly...here's another wake-up call for you...Every so-called nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show host,and major blogger, doesn't touch the topic......What does that tell you?.......THEY ARE ALL FAKES LOADING THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS WHILE THE GETTIN' IS GOOD.


Great post.


Stupid post. The far Left kooks are destroying any chance of winning in 2020. Trump will win big and we will take back the House.
Lessons have been learned from when we had all three branches before. That was Trump's learning curve.
Bring back the Penny Plan and balance the budget.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by AKA_Spook
as short sighted a piece as Ive ever read.


okay,...what part of it seems shortsided? It pretty much jibes with what I'm hearing. The part which tells about how slight the vote margin was in the rust belt states and Michigan are not just opinion.

Neither is the numbers that showed up during the mid terms.



I'm not gonna read through all these pages...sooo.....what is the alternative gonna be??? Beto O'Rourke??? Bernie??? Open borders and liberal judges ??? Did somebody forget that when Trump took control, the economy was in the schitter, the mideast was ablaze and ISIS was in control of a large portion Iraq and Syria, ALL of Libya and Yemen and expanding at an alarming rate??? Remember the schittload of Muzzy refugees that he stopped from entering the U.S.??? N. Korea was firing missiles over Japan and openly threatening us....remember the TPP??? NAFTA???? NO??? I didn't think so
The sad fact is that Trump nor anyone else can do it all by himself. Sure he can issue executive orders all he wants but making them stick is another thing altogether. Take the birthright citizenship thing. If he issues that it will flop around in the courts being over turned until it gets to the supreme court. Does anyone think that Roberts will go right on that or even Kavanaugh. I can assure you the other liberals on the court will codify it and we'll be stuck with it.

We need more than just both houses. We desperately need to be rid on McConnell and Cornyn in the senate. We need to have the other RINOS replaced and have a senate that will unapologetically take charge and aback Trump. We need to be rid of the RINOS in the house and have a true conservative majority that will actually confront the major issues confronting America. A majority of programs, some from as far back as FDR must be abandoned and budgets passed instead of resolutions that just add to the spending madness.

Sure it's easy to hit Trump for what hasn't been done but just how can it get done without even republican support? You sure won't get any sympathy from the liberal ultra left media!!
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Mostly, I'm just perplexed as to why he's not doing what he said he was going to do.

Why not?

Exactly what has he not done that he said he would do?
Step back and view Republican Policy from a historical standpoint and you will see that the ones you label as “Rinos “ are actually the real Republicans. “ Trickle Down” economics and low Corporate taxes are hallmarks of Republicans. “ Small Government” to them means being small enough to be controlled by Big Business but powerful enough to carry out their wishes.

They actually have no commitment to ANY social issues or Constitutional principal. They use them to control the masses who hate what the Democrats have become.

Never forget that it is the party of Lincoln and ask yourself what commitment HE had to the Constitution.

Anyone who operates from a Party Loyalty position is helping forge his own chains.
Lincoln had just about the strongest commitment to the Constitution of any one.
That is what gave him the strength to carry on during that war he hated so much.
It was Washington who set up the ground rules that Lincoln used to bring the Union back together.

Hindsight and a couple of World Wars proved that it was a damn good thing that Lincoln did just that.
Three things jump out at me which are indisputably true.

1) White Conservatives are passing away.

2) Hispanics are still having children unlike the White demographic .

3) The Democrat base is way fired-up.
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Lincoln had just about the strongest commitment to the Constitution of any one.
That is what gave him the strength to carry on during that war he hated so much.
It was Washington who set up the ground rules that Lincoln used to bring the Union back together.

Hindsight and a couple of World Wars proved that it was a damn good thing that Lincoln did just that.


We've had this argument before, but Bolshevik Abe pizzed all over the Constitution. You're just so blinded by your love and admiration for the bastid that you can't see it.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
But in any event, the discussion isn't about me or watch4bear.


Any time that either of you post, its 99.9% about either you or cubby bear.
Originally Posted by BayouRover
Originally Posted by Bristoe
But in any event, the discussion isn't about me or watch4bear.


Any time that either of you post, its 99.9% about either you or cubby bear.


Seems like 99.9% of the time you post, it's about Bristoe.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Originally Posted by BayouRover
Originally Posted by Bristoe
But in any event, the discussion isn't about me or watch4bear.


Any time that either of you post, its 99.9% about either you or cubby bear.


Seems like 99.9% of the time you post, it's about Bristoe.


Maybe it's about man love.
Its good to see that Bristoe's loyal followers are still following.
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Lincoln had just about the strongest commitment to the Constitution of any one.
That is what gave him the strength to carry on during that war he hated so much.
It was Washington who set up the ground rules that Lincoln used to bring the Union back together.

Hindsight and a couple of World Wars proved that it was a damn good thing that Lincoln did just that.


We've had this argument before, but Bolshevik Abe pizzed all over the Constitution. You're just so blinded by your love and admiration for the bastid that you can't see it.



And you never answered my question as to how in the Hell did Abe become a Bolshevik?
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by JamesJr
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Lincoln had just about the strongest commitment to the Constitution of any one.
That is what gave him the strength to carry on during that war he hated so much.
It was Washington who set up the ground rules that Lincoln used to bring the Union back together.

Hindsight and a couple of World Wars proved that it was a damn good thing that Lincoln did just that.


We've had this argument before, but Bolshevik Abe pizzed all over the Constitution. You're just so blinded by your love and admiration for the bastid that you can't see it.



And you never answered my question as to how in the Hell did Abe become a Bolshevik?


You must not be old enough to remember that old playground song......it went something like this...

Abraham Lincoln was the King of the Jews
He wore white socks with his tennis shoes
Ran through the jungle with his d**k in his hand
Trying to screw every niqqer in the land.


And you never answered my question as to how in the Hell did Abe become a Bolshevik?
Originally Posted by BayouRover
Its good to see that Bristoe's loyal followers are still following.
Whether I agree with Bristoe or not, he posts thought-provoking material. I never see you post anything but bs.
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by BayouRover
Its good to see that Bristoe's loyal followers are still following.
Whether I agree with Bristoe or not, he posts thought-provoking material. I never see you post anything but bs.


Knowing that bit of wisdom came from you, I'm totally crushed. laugh
Considering the alternative, Trump's still getting my vote in 2020. Y'all can vote for whomeever the hell you want and live with the consequences, as will I.
Originally Posted by BayouRover
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by BayouRover
Its good to see that Bristoe's loyal followers are still following.
Whether I agree with Bristoe or not, he posts thought-provoking material. I never see you post anything but bs.


Knowing that bit of wisdom came from you, I'm totally crushed. laugh
It takes intelligence to recognize intelligence, son.
Quote
We need more than just both houses. We desperately need to be rid on McConnell and Cornyn in the senate. We need to have the other RINOS replaced and have a senate that will unapologetically take charge and aback Trump. We need to be rid of the RINOS in the house and have a true conservative majority that will actually confront the major issues confronting America.




So if the senate and congress are the cause of trumps losses, who causes his wins?


For example, the last budget he signed had 500 million dollars in it for planned parenthood. We got the excuse it was bad bill, and "I made a mistake signing it".

I guess we just mark that one down as an OOPS?
Originally Posted by BOWSINGER


And you never answered my question as to how in the Hell did Abe become a Bolshevik?

He enjoyed reading Karl Marx.
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