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Because today was the deadline to turn in your Trump-blocked bump stocks!

If you continue to keep them, you could be facing fines and up to 10 years of prison.

After the NZ shooting I've seen people here exclaiming how unlike Americans, Kiwis are "subjects" that have no freedom.

Yet the exact same thing's going on in America.

The government bans stuff that's "too dangerous" for the common "subject", and tells you to hand it over or you'll be locked up!

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Can’t read your post thanks to the ignore feature... but GFYS
no ones taking chit from me, goose chit.
Originally Posted by Goosey
If you continue to keep them, you could be facing fines and up to 10 years of prison.


Since there's no national registry, you tell us exactly how that works, dipschitt.
I don't have one, but if I did, I sure as [bleep] wouldn't be turning it in.
Goosesh!t your mother should have swallowed!!!
Originally Posted by Goosey
Yet the exact same thing's going on in America.


Wrong again goose schit, New Zealand's is a done deal the citizens have no recourse, Here it has yet to go through the court system.
NewZealanders should be executing their elected officials en masse
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you poor pitiful stupid bitch, you and whores like you are in for a chit-ton of surprises, you best get your head outta your ass and pay attention.
I hate to say it but Goosey is absolutely right. When I was a kid you could order a gun from the Sears catalog and have it delivered to your door. No 4473 to fill out, no background check, just pay your money and take delivery of your gun. In '68 that became a fond memory, and we did NOTHING. A few years later and the 4473 was no longer enough, now you needed a background check besides, and we did NOTHING. My great grandfather could buy a full auto Thompson SMG or a Winchester M92 "trapper" with a 14" barrel or saw the barrels on his old double barreled shotgun as short as he wished with no paperwork, no background check and no goverment involvement whatsoever. In 1934 that all came to an end, and we did NOTHING. "Shall not be infringed" ain't that hard to understand. It means the Fedreral government has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to make gun laws whatsoever. The govt' has clearly violated our constitutional right to keep and bear arms repeatedly for nearly 100 years and we've done NOTHING. Anyone who says otherwise is purposely choosing to bury his head in the sand and live in denial.
Goosey is right, and trump is wrong, holy pfhugg
Originally Posted by gonehuntin

Since there's no national registry, you tell us exactly how that works, dipschitt.


There is a registry, you pay $200 to register any new NFA items. Unfortunately you can't register bump stocks manufactured after 1986. And I'm not sure they were making any bump stocks back in 1986.

You could hide it but you could have a "boating accident" in any country... and risk going to prison.

Originally Posted by 12344mag

Wrong again goose schit, New Zealand's is a done deal the citizens have no recourse, Here it has yet to go through the court system.


And it's doing that now. But it has to go through legal process there in NZ too. They don't have the 2nd Amendment. They do have recourse with their votes.But the population supports the ban in that country.

Tell me, why can't you buy a brand new machine gun at Cabela's? Why must you pay tens of thousands for various full-auto crap? Where was the recourse there?
Gooseschitt and the waffen BATFEces scum can go fokk themselves.
Originally Posted by Blackheart
I hate to say it but Goosey is absolutely right. When I was a kid you could order a gun from the Sears catalog and have it delivered to your door. No 4473 to fill out, no background check, just pay your money and take delivery of your gun. In '68 that became a fond memory, and we did NOTHING. A few years later and the 4473 was no longer enough, now you needed a background check besides, and we did NOTHING. My great grandfather could buy a full auto Thompson SMG or a Winchester M92 "trapper" with a 14" barrel or saw the barrels on his old double barreled shotgun as short as he wished with no paperwork, no background check and no goverment involvement whatsoever. In 1934 that all came to an end, and we did NOTHING. "Shall not be infringed" ain't that hard to understand. It means the Fedreral government has NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to make gun laws whatsoever. The govt' has clearly violated our constitutional right to keep and bear arms repeatedly for nearly 100 years and we've done NOTHING. Anyone who says otherwise is purposely choosing to bury his head in the sand and live in denial.


Couldn't agree more Blackie . . . +1 . . . Even Mr Trump doesn't full understand.

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Originally Posted by Goosey
Originally Posted by gonehuntin

Since there's no national registry, you tell us exactly how that works, dipschitt.


There is a registry, you pay $200 to register any new NFA items. Unfortunately you can't register bump stocks manufactured after 1986. And I'm not sure they were making any bump stocks back in 1986.

You could hide it but you could have a "boating accident" in any country... and risk going to prison.

Originally Posted by 12344mag

Wrong again goose schit, New Zealand's is a done deal the citizens have no recourse, Here it has yet to go through the court system.


And it's doing that now. But it has to go through legal process there in NZ too. They don't have the 2nd Amendment. They do have recourse with their votes.But the population supports the ban in that country.

Tell me, why can't you buy a brand new machine gun at Cabela's? Why must you pay tens of thousands for various full-auto crap? Where was the recourse there?

It would probably help if you understood that the issue of 'registry' as mentioned by Gonhuntin is NOT the NFA 1934 registry you are referring to. What he was trying to tell you is that there is NO REGISRTY on bump stocks, no form or registration of any kind were required to purchase or own them, hence NO PUCKING REGISTRY! Get your head out of your ass.
Goosey another Russian bot cock holster for Putin
Gooseshit Are you some kind a stupid?

You should be proud to be an American and stand on the right side of the Constitution and The American Flag.

This country was founded on freedoms. Not to be taken away by some limp Dick In an office someplace..
Do you understand.

Gee some people's children.
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
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This country was founded on freedoms. Not to be taken away by some limp Dick In an office someplace..




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For destruction, regardless of manufacturer or model, a bump stock must be made incapable of being readily restored to its intended function by, for example, crushing, melting or shredding the bump stock.
Bump stocks may also be destroyed by cutting, so long as the bump stock is completely severed in the areas constituting critical design features, denoted by the red lines in the specific model of bump stock destruction diagrams that follow.
The bump stock must be completely severed in each area indicated by the red line.
Destroying a bump stock using any other method may be legally insufficient, such that continued possession of the device may violate 18 U.S.C. 922(o).
I'll bet benchmade would be eager to aid in cutting.
The bottom-line is the 2nd Amendment has been infringed upon for a long time and nothing has been done. A few years back I criticized supposedly pro-gun politicians, the NRA, the Republican party and most gun owners by talking about pro-gun political forces for always fighting on the defensive. I postulated that instead of always fighting a defensive battle where eventually we know we will give ground, we should have been taking things back. I got criticized and laughed at. I had talked about repeal of the GCA for starters, legalizing machine guns, etc. There are/were also smaller things that could be done. Stuff like making it legal to buy handguns across state lines without going through an FFL, for instance. This for example, is something that no longer has any real justification and hasn't ever since the Brady Check system-now the Instant Check, went into place. The only visible reason for it is harassment of people trying to buy a gun. And yet, we gun owners put up with that and other arguably more egregious violations.

In the end, a big part of it is the effectiveness of a divide-and-conquer strategy. Of the pool of gun owners, only a minute few actually own bump stocks. A human tendency is to pretty much ignore that which doesn't affect you directly. I'm really surprised that there is as much uproar as there is about them-but there should be much, much more.

A member on here is fond of asking the rhetorical question: "200 million gun owners and only 5 million NRA members...what if there were 100 million NRA members?" or something to that effect. I'm not sure an organization that isn't 100% behind guns or their owners is the answer. What I'm sure is the answer is gun owners coming together in a much larger group and getting 100% behind guns and each other. IOW, no more debate about Universal Background Checks-they simply cannot be. No more "having the conversation" about Red Flag Laws-a simple no. AWB revisited? Not just no, but hell no. We must remember that when all the AR's have been turned in and crushed, all the bump stocks made into fidget spinners and even all the handguns dumped into the ocean, then they will come after your 700 and your model 21. In the end, it isn't even about guns. It is about the means to resist tyranny. Guns are a symbol of freedom and the ability to resist tyrants and those who are anti-freedom and pro-tyranny hate them. More than that, they hate those behind them.
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only a minute few actually own bump stocks.




500,000 is a minute number? grin

Bone head
Anybody can bump-fire any semiauto long gun with more recoil than a 22LR with just a bit of practice: no bump stock, just a finger.

But it’s a silly practice—just a pointless waste of ammunition.
Originally Posted by Quak
Can’t read your post thanks to the ignore feature... but GFYS


Ditto.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Where do the bullets go in that machine gun?
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"Bump stocks — the gun add-ons that can dramatically increase their rate of fire — are now officially illegal in the U.S., after a Trump administration
ban took effect Tuesday. Anyone selling or owning bump stocks could face up to 10 years in federal prison and a fine of $250,000 for each violation.

Chief Justice John Roberts declined to hear an appeal from gun makers on the new ban Tuesday, allowing it to remain in place.
A separate appeal that seeks a stay on enforcing the ban is before Justice Sonia Sotomayor."


Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
The bottom-line is the 2nd Amendment has been infringed upon for a long time and nothing has been done. .


Gov. knows from past experience that the people are a push over.

The gun tribe allows their cousin bmpStk owners to be thrown into the volcano as a sacrifice all in hope of appeasing the Gods
from outlawing anything else in the future .. whistle
Originally Posted by jackmountain
I don't have one, but if I did, I sure as [bleep] wouldn't be turning it in.
Ditto... Eff 'em..
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